F1 1984+

RedEyes504 · Post by **RedEyes504** » 23 Oct 2016, 14:12

ATS - Bids

Driver 1
Andrea de Cesaris
Ayrton Senna
Riccardo Patrese

Driver 2
Wait

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 23 Oct 2016, 16:55

Arrows Driver Signings:

1.* Wait*
2.* Wait*
3. *Wait*
4. Nannini
5. Brundle
6. Thackwell

(The reason the top three are blank is that we a waiting for a top driver for seat one)

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 23 Oct 2016, 17:42

Renault Driver 1

Wait for Phase 2

Driver 2
1. Aryton Senna
2. Rene Arnoux
3. Michele Alberto

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 24 Oct 2016, 12:08

Williams bids

Driver 1
Ayrton Senna - 1m
Nelson Piquet - 4m

Driver 2
Wait until 2nd round

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 24 Oct 2016, 13:36

Scuderia Ferrari

Driver 1
tba

Driver 2
1. Elio de Angelis
2. Michele Alboreto
3. Thierry Boutsen

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 24 Oct 2016, 17:46

Only McLaren, Spirit and Osella still need to post their desired drivers (if any).

Very interesting to see how teams are handling the 'phasing'! Some are hedging their bets, while others are taking a more proactive attitude and signing early.

Collieafc wrote:Ayrton Senna - 1m
Nelson Piquet - 4m

Just to clarify, there is no financial bidding in this series. The amount is the amount. I'll assume you'll still want the drivers you've listed; if you get Piquet he's going to cost you £1.4m more - but rejoice, Williams team - because if you get Senna he'll be costing you £800,000 less!

If you're curious, your championship points from the previous season are the sole factor (along with the RNG) in a driver's decision to sign with you. Points above all, in this virtual championship!

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 24 Oct 2016, 20:33

BioBiro wrote:Very interesting to see how teams are handling the 'phasing'! Some are hedging their bets, while others are taking a more proactive attitude and signing early.

I am assuming some very big names are missing from the list on purpose?

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 24 Oct 2016, 20:43

Biscione wrote:I am assuming some very big names are missing from the list on purpose?

Yes; they are in the second set/phase

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TheFlyingCaterham · Post by **TheFlyingCaterham** » 24 Oct 2016, 23:05

Driver 1: Andrea de Cesaris
Driver 2: Alessandro Nannini

If one or both of these bids aren't successful then Osella will wait for the second round of bidding.

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 26 Oct 2016, 04:17

McLaren want to sign these drivers

Driver 1
Alan Prost
Nelson Piquet
Niki Lauda

Driver 2
Ayrton Senna
Michele Alboreto
René Arnoux

Post by **tommykl** » 26 Oct 2016, 08:15

Spirit's driver choice:

1. Philippe Streiff
2. Chico Serra
3. Beppe Gabbiani
4. Paolo Barilla
5. Wait a bit longer

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 26 Oct 2016, 16:57

FantometteBR wrote:McLaren want to sign these drivers

Driver 1
Alan Prost
Nelson Piquet
Niki Lauda

This series uses two phases of driver signing. Prost and Lauda are not in the list I posted, and are only available in the second phase.

If I strip them out, you get:

Code: Select all

Driver 1
Nelson Piquet

Driver 2
Ayrton Senna
Michele Alboreto
René Arnoux

Knowing this, you may revise your list of driver signings for the position of Driver 1, if you want.

I'll give you a day to consider, and if I hear no response after that I'll assume the above list with Piquet-only as your Driver 1 choice is acceptable!

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 27 Oct 2016, 00:20

Ok I will revise them

Add with Piquet Elio de Angelis and a third spot if it goes to Phase two (if that is allowed)

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 28 Oct 2016, 23:03

^ That's just a-OK with me, Fantomette.

Driver Signing Results - Set One (Of Two)
Alfa Romeo, with a strategy that is not immediately obvious to this outsider, have decided to hire only Indycar drivers in their second car. Their first choice, South African female racer Desiré Wilson, has received only Alfa's offer for 1984, and is delighted at the prospect of returning to Formula One in a competitive team.

Spirit have first – and only – call on Philippe Streiff.

Andrea de Cesaris
Ligier - 20% chance
RAM - 20% chance
Minardi - 20% chance
ATS - 20% chance
Osella - 20% chance
Minardi gets it!

Alessandro Nannini
Arrows - 64% chance
Osella - 35% chance
Arrows gets it!

Elio de Angelis
Brabham - 33% chance
Tyrrell - 7% chance
Ligier - 2% chance
Ferrari - 40% chance
McLaren - 16% chance
Ferrari gets it!

Ayrton Senna
Lotus - 8% chance
Toleman - 7% chance
ATS - 2% chance
Renault - 42% chance
Williams - 20% chance
McLaren - 19% chance
Williams gets it!

This frees Nelson Piquet up with only the McLaren contract on offer – their first choice!

With Ligier's first choice – de Cesaris – taken, it's a straight toss-up between Ligier and RAM for Chico Serra's SKILLS.
Ligier - 50% chance
RAM - 50% chance
Ligier gets it!

Riccardo Patrese
Brabham - 66% chance
Tyrrell - 14% chance
Lotus - 13% chance
ATS - 4% chance
Brabham gets it!
With de Angelis already taken, Brabham get their second choice!

René Arnoux
Tyrrell - 11% chance
Ligier - 3% chance
Renault - 57% chance
McLaren - 26% chance
McLaren gets it!
McLaren get first dibs on the Frenchman, but he's their third choice, and their second choice is still on the market, so let's move onto the man in question…

Michele Alboreto
Renault - 68% chance
McLaren - 31% chance
Renault gets it!
Renault get their third choice, Alboreto…

… which also means that McLaren sign Arnoux.

Thierry Boutsen
Ligier - 25% chance
Toleman - 75% chance
Toleman gets it!

Lotus get their third choice – Martin Brundle.

RAM get their second choice - Roberto Guerrero…

… and RAM also get their second choice for their other car - Guido Daccò.

***

Ligier, ATS, Tyrrell and Osella all made attempts to sign drivers for at least one of their cars but failed to do so.

Osella elected not to make further attempts at signing drivers in this first phase, but Ligier, ATS and Tyrrell are free to do so, if they want.

Ligier, ATS and Tyrrell – would any of you like to make another attempt at signing drivers for the cars you listed (Ligier's first car, ATS's first car, and Tyrrell's second car) in this phase of driver signing, or would you prefer to wait until the second phase before making further attempts?

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 29 Oct 2016, 00:58

Boom! We're absolutely delighted to welcome Andrea to the team at Faenza.

V8fan12 · Post by **V8fan12** » 29 Oct 2016, 01:00

I'll wait for the next round

RedEyes504 · Post by **RedEyes504** » 29 Oct 2016, 19:13

ATS will make a bid for John Watson to lead the team

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 30 Oct 2016, 00:41

Yeah, Ligier will bid for:
1: John Watson
2: Manfred Winkelhock
3: Alessandro Nannini

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 30 Oct 2016, 13:09

^ Nannini has already been signed

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(Additional) Driver Signing Results - Set One (Of Two)
John Watson
ATS - 50% chance
Ligier - 50% chance
ATS gets it!

German driver, Manfred Winkelhock, signs for Ligier, to partner Chico Serra!

***

OK~, it gets more fun from here-on. Sponsorship up next~!

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 30 Oct 2016, 14:10

Sponsor Signing – Set One (Of Two)
Teams that scored at least one point in the previous year's championship may sign team sponsors; teams that failed to score any points may not. In addition, certain teams owned by parent manufacturers may have lost some of their sponsorship space. Everyone's available sponsorship slots are listed below:

Brabham
Williams
McLaren
Alfa Romeo
Tyrrell
Lotus
Toleman
Arrows
… may all sign up-to one team sponsor and three supplementary sponsors, as they scored at least one point in last year's championship.

Ferrari
Renault
... may all sign up-to three supplementary sponsors only, as they are owned by parent manufacturers who take up the position of team sponsor.

Ligier
Spirit
Osella
RAM
Minardi
… may all sign up-to four supplementary sponsors only, as they did not score at least one point in last year's championship.

ATS
… may sign up-to three supplementary sponsors only, as they are owned by a parent manufacturer who take up the position of a supplementary sponsor.

To attempt signing of a sponsor, simply state the sponsor's name.

An example of signing sponsors:

Code: Select all

MahAwesomeRacingTeam would like to sign the following sponsors:
Skoal Bandit
Topolino
Sergio Tacchini
Comtesse du Barry
SITEV
Magirus
Rizla

I'm going to limit you all to listing no more than the magic number - seven - sponsors in your signing attempt. If you list more than seven, they'll be ignored (this is to prevent you all from just writing down every sponsor on the list, in the hope of eventually 'getting one'!).

You will only receive two attempts to sign sponsors; one after I post the first set of sponsors, and one after I post the second set of sponsors. Whether you come away from those two opportunities with full sponsorship coverage or no sponsors in sight - unlike driver signing - there will be no additional chances!

Furthermore, be aware that, also unlike driver signing, you will not receive the opportunity to approach any of the below sponsors again! When we move on to the second phase of sponsor signing, you will restricted to approaching sponsors listed in that second set only!

Good luck; be wise~!

Team Sponsors
Skoal Bandit, Nationality: United States, Income for season: £9,000,000
Benetton, Nationality: Italian, Income for season: £11,000,000
John Player Special, Nationality: British, Income for season: £20,500,000. Note: also takes up all three of your supplementary sponsor slots.
Barclay, Nationality: British, Income for season: £8,000,000
Nordica, Nationality: Italian, Income for season: £10,000,000

Supplementary Sponsors
Topolino, Nationality: Italian, Income for season: £6,000,000. Note: only available to Italian teams.
Sergio Tacchini, Nationality: Italian, Income for season: £2,000,000
Comtesse du Barry, Nationality: French, Income for season: £6,000,000. Note: only available to French teams.
SITEV, Nationality: Mexican, Income for season: £1,000,000
Magirus, Nationality: German, Income for season: £2,000,000
Rizla, Nationality: French, Income for season: £2,000,000
EniChem, Nationality: Italian, Income for season: £5,000,000
FACOM, Nationality: French, Income for season: £2,000,000
DENIM, Nationality: Italian, Income for season: £7,000,000. Note: only available to Italian teams.
ICI Tactel, Nationality: British, Income for season: £6,000,000. Note: only available to British teams.
Koni, Nationality: Dutch, Income for season: £5,000,000
SAIMA, Nationality: Italian, Income for season: £6,000,000. Note: only available to Italian teams.
Segafredo Zanetti, Nationality: Italian, Income for season: £3,000,000
Longines, Nationality: Swiss, Income for season: £5,000,000
Diavia, Nationality: British, Income for season: £3,000,000
SKF, Nationality: Swedish, Income for season: £1,000,000
Unipart, Nationality: British, Income for season: £7,000,000. Note: only available to British teams.
Marlboro, Nationality: USA, Income for season: £5,000,000
Steinbock, Nationality: Swiss, Income for season: £3,000,000
Gitanes, Nationality: French, Income for season: £7,000,000. Note: only available to French teams.
Milde Sorte, Nationality: Austrian, Income for season: £2,000,000
Olivetti, Nationality: Italian, Income for season: £4,000,000
Würth, Nationality: German, Income for season: £7,000,000. Note: only available to German teams.
Panasonic, Nationality: Japanese, Income for season: £3,000,000
Newsweek, Nationality: United States, Income for season: £5,000,000
Parfums Victor, Nationality: Dutch, Income for season: £4,000,000

novitopoli · Post by **novitopoli** » 30 Oct 2016, 15:31

Lotus sponsor attempts:

Benetton
Nordica
Unipart
ICI Tactel
Marlboro
Longines
Newsweek

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 30 Oct 2016, 15:38

Scuderia Ferrari would like to sign the following sponsors;
DENIM
Topolino
SAIMA
EniChem
Longines
Marlboro
Olivetti

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 30 Oct 2016, 16:15

Minardi Sponsorship Bids
DENIM
Topolino
SAIMA
EniChem
Olivetti
Segafrido Zanetti
Sergio Tacchini

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 30 Oct 2016, 16:44

RAM attempted sponsor signings
Unipart
ICI tactel
Newsweek
Koni
Marlboro
Enichem
Panasonic

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 30 Oct 2016, 16:44

Aislabie wrote:(This is the correct number, right? I'm definitely not allowed to bid for any more?)

Minardi has sponsorship space for four supplementary sponsors, but you may list (up-to) seven sponsors to try and put the moves on (since there's a reasonable chance you won't get at least one of them)!

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 30 Oct 2016, 17:03

Ligier sponsor choices:
-French sponsors are an obvious choice and having a german lead driver, it would make sense to try to convince German or Swiss sponsors.

Gitanes
Comtesse du Barry
Longines
Steinbock
FACOM
Rizla
Magirus

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 30 Oct 2016, 18:43

Arrows sponsor bids:

1.Benetton (main)
2.Nordica (main, if Benetton isn't signed)
3. Marlboro (supp.)
4. Longines (supp.)
5.Olivetti (supp.)
6.Unipart (supp. if only one/two signed)
7. Panasonic (supp. if still only one/two signed.

I hope this is OK

If all these fail we will try to sign in the second stage.

Post by **Ataxia** » 30 Oct 2016, 19:01

Brabham Sponsor Bids:

Lead Sponsors:
Nordica

Supplimentary:
Olivetti
ICI Tactel
Unipart
Newsweek
Longines
Segafredo

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 30 Oct 2016, 20:11

McLaren sponsorship bids (only supplementary for now)

Magirus
FACOM
DENIM
Longines
Unipart
Olivetti

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 30 Oct 2016, 20:15

FantometteBR wrote:DENIM

This sponsor is only available to Italian teams. Would you like to pick a sponsor to replace it?

V8fan12 · Post by **V8fan12** » 30 Oct 2016, 20:48

Tyrrell
1. John Player Special (main and supp.)
2. Benetton (main, if JPS isn't signed)
3. ICI Tactel (supp.)
4. EniChem (supp.)
5. Logines (supp.)
6. Newsweek (alternate supp.)
7. Olivetti (alternate supp.)

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 31 Oct 2016, 15:06

BioBiro wrote:
FantometteBR wrote:DENIM

This sponsor is only available to Italian teams. Would you like to pick a sponsor to replace it?

Yep. Replace it with Panasonic

RedEyes504 · Post by **RedEyes504** » 31 Oct 2016, 18:57

ATS Bids
1. Würth
2. Newsweek
3. EniChem
4. Koni
5. Parfums Victor
6. Longines
7. Olivetti

We will bid until we've signed two sponsors and save the last space for round two

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 31 Oct 2016, 20:34

Renault Supplementary Sponsor bids

Gitanes
Comtesse du Barry
Newsweek
Koni
Marlboro
Longines
Enichem

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 01 Nov 2016, 14:39

Williams Bids

Benetton
Nordica
Skoal
Unipart
ICI Tactel
Newsweek
Diavia

Post by **tommykl** » 01 Nov 2016, 14:46

Spirit's bids:

ICI Tactel
Unipart
Koni
Newsweek
Magirus
EniChem
Segafredo Zanetti

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 01 Nov 2016, 21:02

Just Toleman, Osella and Alfa Romeo remaining.

Trivia: There is still one team sponsor and three supplemental sponsors with no teams interested in them, yet! The most popular sponsor so far has received an incredible nine different team's attentions!

Thanks to everyone so far for your bids! @Minardi - I've noticed your edited/updated post.

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 01 Nov 2016, 21:16

I think it may be because nobody wants their car painted that particularly horrible shade of tobacco-stain beige Barclay uses; just look at the Arrows that year

I won't let the A7s I'm running look that awful

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 01 Nov 2016, 21:44

This Could Be You wrote:I think it may be because nobody wants their car painted that particularly horrible shade of tobacco-stain beige Barclay uses; just look at the Arrows that year

I won't let the A7s I'm running look that awful

I kinda like it

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 01 Nov 2016, 22:59

Considering the big competition for Longines, i'll select Milde Sorte instead as sponsor bid, if that is ok.