Grand Prix Rejects

1. Norris
2. Piastri
3. Verstappen
4. Leclerc
5. Hamilton
6. Russell
7. Sainz
8. Perez
9. Tsunoda
10. Alonso

Race Pole: Norris
FL: Verstappen
First Retirement: Gasly
ROTR: Sauber
IIDOTR: Tsunoda
DBTMOTR: Sargeant
LP: Sargeant
F2P: Magnussen
Yellow Flag: Gasly
Worst Team: Sauber

Ah yes, of course! With better luck. Perez and Hulk might have won a race that year too. I think Grosjean retired from the lead of a race as well, though that might have been 2013... Grosjean has lead a total of 40 laps across seven races (the Bahrain, Canadian and Hungarian GPs in 2012, and the Ge...

IceG wrote: ↑21 Jul 2024, 15:23 Do we now have 13 race-winners on the grid? Everyone from the top five teams minus Stroll, plus Gasly, Bottas, Ricciardo and Ocon.

Is this a record?

It looks like others have also asked that question, and have worked out that the 1978 season had more race winning drivers on the grid (15).

One word for that one, I think... sour. I don't remember ever hearing a pair of race engineers sound as done with their drivers as Norris's and Verstappen's today. Particularly GP, who usually backs Verstappen to the hilt with everything but by the end had clearly had enough of him, which was extra...

1. Tsunoda - the only person to try a one stop strategy, and he managed to make what looked like a sub-optimal strategy still pay off. 2. Stroll - Aston Martin backed themselves into a corner by burning through too many tyres earlier in the race weekend, forcing them to do a stint on soft tyres that...

1. McLaren . Absolute boneheaded stupidity, a complete driver management failure. If Norris loses the title by seven points, we can point to this nonsense. :facepalm: 2. Max Verstappen . A petulant toddler when he's not 30 seconds up the road from the next driver. McLaren needed to either be more d...

1. Verstappen
2. Norris
3. Sainz
4. Russell
5. Perez
6. Hamilton
7. Leclerc
8. Piastri
9. Alonso
10. Tsunoda

Race Pole: Verstappen
FL: Verstappen
First Retirement: Gasly
ROTR: Alpine
IIDOTR: Albon
DBTMOTR: Sargeant
LP: Sargeant
F2P: Magnussen
Yellow Flag: None
Worst Team: Alpine

Rumours are already swirling that Perez has two races to save his seat... if there's even a remote sniff of truth to this, why sign an extension in the first place? The negotiations seem to have taken place during the opening races of the season when Perez was still putting in reasonable performanc...

It's weird I've been closely following Big Zeddie's uploads on YouTube, it's reached 2006 now but the 2003 - 2005 seasons had 9 out of 10 teams as they are today in the same or different guises and the exception was.....Toyota then and Haas now, so if this does happen then all the teams today can b...

It won't be a surprise for most people to see Toyota in Formula 1. It depends on what capacity Toyota are looking to return in, because that also seems to be a bit ambiguous. It also depends how much reliance you want to put on the Hungarian website that was first to publish the story. Some reports...

Given Mercedes' and Ferrari's recent form, is Lewis doing the right thing? I think so, yes. Mercedes form will probably be ephemeral. They both have about equal chances of winning the championship next season and beyond I think. And given that and the fact that it seems like Lewis just wants a chan...

I believe this makes Hamilton the first/only driver to win a race after their 300th race (only 5 other drivers have reached that many races, and none have won after that point). Yes, as also noted by rachel1990, Hamilton is the only one to have achieved that so far, with Kimi being the next closest...

I expect that Hamilton will get a number of nominations for demonstrating that he did still have decent tactical nous, and able to carefully manage his tyres in that final stint too. In general, you could also nominate several midfield runners - Hulkenberg's 6th was a real surprise, particularly as ...

As so many others have said, McLaren's pit wall has to take it - they cost Piastri dearly when the other teams realised that double stacking was better, and then it was Norris's turn when they tarried on his final stop and also put him on the wrong tyres. They had the potential to get both drivers o...

1. Verstappen
2. Norris
3. Piastri
4. Russell
5. Perez
6. Hamilton
7. Sainz
8. Leclerc
9. Hulkenberg
10. Alonso

Pole: Verstappen
FL: Norris
First Retirement: Magnussen
ROTR: Sargeant
IIDOTR: Hulkenberg
DBTMOTR: Sargeant
LP: Sargeant
F2P: Ocon
Yellow Flag: Ocon
Worst Team: Williams

Piastri - My hot take pick. Had he had a better early race he could have saved the world from Russell. He does seem completely outclassed by Lando, which was unthinkable last season. Yes, Piastri does seem to have been a bit of a disappointment this season - considering the expectations that people...

On a different note, I've noticed that there does seem to be a shifting in the perception of Alonso's performances in recent races towards a more negative outlook. It does seem as if, since Imola, people have been more critical of his performances and there is a growing perception that he's become m...

Just out of curiosity, in the sprint qualifying with a minute or two left no-one had set a time. What would have happened if for instance Leclerc had stopped out on the track with his issue instead of in the pit lane and left insufficient time for anyone to complete their lap and register a time? H...

Londoner wrote: ↑30 Jun 2024, 14:30 1. Haas. An excellently executed race plan.

Agreed - this was a race where it feels like Haas did punch above their weight.

Max Verstappen: Overdid his attempt to squeeze Lando and collided with him, screwing both of them over. It's compounded by the fact that it wasn't necessary, as either Max or his team should've realised that Lando was imminently going to get a penalty, meaning that even if Max dropped behind him, a...

Mercedes is probably a bit of an issue, as it might be as much down to the rumour that Wolff is aggressively courting Max for 2026, but Sainz is insisting on a multi-year deal that would restrict Mercedes's options. Given a choice between Versappen/Sainz and Russell/Antonelli for 2026 it would have...

S1: Verstappen S2: Norris S3: Russell S4: Leclerc S5: Hamilton S6: Piastri S7: Sainz S8: Perez Sprint Pole: Verstappen First Retirement: None Race 1: Verstappen 2: Norris 3: Russell 4: Hamilton 5: Leclerc 6: Sainz 7: Perez 8: Piastri 9: Tsunoda 10: Alonso Race Pole: Verstappen FL: Norris First Retir...

The Sainz situation is really dragging on. Now that Verstappen is reconfirmed for Red Bull (oh the shock), and similarly Stroll at Aston Martin (thanks dad!) and Gasly at Alpine (poor chap), it looks like Sainz' choices are Mercedes (for an immediate competitive drive - unless Toto has totally lost...

That said, since you mention the Andretti's - if it were the case that Alpine did cut back as an engine supplier, it does also create a problem for Michael Andretti. His plans to enter relied on a bridging deal with Renault for engines whilst GM developed their own proposed unit, but that may no lo...

Well, things at Alpine seem to be getting increasingly weird - firstly, there have been reports that Renault is planning to pull the plug on developing an engine for 2026, with Alpine now buying in engines from other parties (https://racingnews365.com/alpine-considers-quitting-as-f1-engine-supplier...

I am going to add a little aside here - haven't most of Renault's efforts as an engine manufacturer in Formula 1 has relied on outsourcing? The EF1 was an internal project within Renault, but from 1983 onwards, the customer units that Renault sold were being built and prepared by Mecachrome. When R...

I know. That's why I said 1986 at the earliest. We also had Emilio de Villota's 3rd March in 1982. Jonathan Palmer in a 3rd Williams at Brands Hatch in 1983. In the case of de Villota, there is an argument that his entry was technically through his sponsors as a privateer entry - you do have a fair...

Senna signs for Prost GP in 1998 :pantano: If he'd lived long enough, Ayrton probably could have helped Alain form and run the Prost team and they might have survived post-2001. What if Ayrton Senna had lived long enough to see his nephew reach F1? Even before he got to Formula 1, it would have alr...

I've tried to Google this to no avail; has there ever been a rule put in place where a team HAS to run 2 cars? I know third cars were banned around the mid 80s but the main question is, was anything ever put in place that banned single-car teams? As far as I know the last time teams ran a single ca...

Alpine - Solely for the off track drama of giving up their engine program (allegedly). Because we all saw how well an outsourced engine worked at Le Mans..... I am going to add a little aside here - haven't most of Renault's efforts as an engine manufacturer in Formula 1 has relied on outsourcing? ...

1. Aston Martin. If you want to upgrade the car try to show it won't slow it down. Once again added fat not muscle to car. Awful showing 2. Sergio Perez. Your teammate is winning races. You finish behind an Alpine. There has to be a performance clause somewhere. What are red bull gaining from keepi...

Alpine: Surprisingly non-terrible. But one has to wonder how much of it was down to Aston and especially RB being awful. True, there may be an element of their rivals putting in a poor performance - but, on the other hand, you have to be there to be able to take advantage of it, and they did manage...

1. Verstappen
2. Norris
3. Sainz
4. Leclerc
5. Piastri
6. Perez
7. Russell
8. Hamilton
9. Alonso
10. Tsunoda
Pole: Verstappen
Fastest Lap: Verstappen
First Retirement: Gasly
ROTR: Ricciardo
IIDOTR: no-one
DBTMOTR: Sargeant
LP: Sargeant
FTP: Ocon
YF: None
Worst Team: Sauber

Well, things at Alpine seem to be getting increasingly weird - firstly, there have been reports that Renault is planning to pull the plug on developing an engine for 2026, with Alpine now buying in engines from other parties (https://racingnews365.com/alpine-considers-quitting-as-f1-engine-supplier)...

I've tried to Google this to no avail; has there ever been a rule put in place where a team HAS to run 2 cars? I know third cars were banned around the mid 80s but the main question is, was anything ever put in place that banned single-car teams? As far as I know the last time teams ran a single ca...

Sainz and Leclerc instead of Ferrari: Sainz spun and Leclerc misjudged his tyre choice. Ferrari had an outlier in terms of performance, just like every other team in the age of the ground effect. But I don't see any particular fault with the team itself. The car doesn't suit the track, just like Re...

As it seems Alpine and Albon are getting a few nominations already, I'll go with the slightly less orthodox choice of Ricciardo. Given Tsunoda's had the measure of him in most races, this was one of the few weekends where Ricciardo had better pace and looked a bit more like the driver he used to be,...

1- Ferrari- Bad Saturday with no pace turned into the Sunday from Hell with Engine problems, terrible pitstop calls then giving up and retiring the car (Charles) then Sainz binning it and taking out a very unlucky Alex Albon 2- Sergio Perez. Binned in and destroyed the rear wing. In 15th I think. a...

Well! We didn't even need the rain to make that a cracking qualifying session! Could it be possible that the rest of this season could be a four-way battle, with different tracks favouring different teams...? That'll be quite fun, if so. I was surprised in the week when Red Bull re-signed Perez, an...

1. Verstappen
2. Sainz
3. Leclerc
4. Norris
5. Piastri
6. Russell
7. Alonso
8. Hamilton
9. Perez
10. Stroll
Pole: Verstappen
Fastest Lap: Verstappen
First Retirement: Ocon
ROTR: Perez
IIDOTR: not awarded
DBTMOTR: Perez
LP: Sargeant
FTP: Gasly
YF: Ocon
Worst Team: Haas

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