Grand Prix Rejects

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Changing tack a bit - is this the first F1 win for an out and out pay driver?

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Massa/Grosjean are too obvious.

I'll go for Perez's race engineer - just when he needed to know he was quicker, on fresher tyres and odds on to win the race he effectively told him to back off, no surprise he made his mistake on the next lap.

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IdeFan wrote:- Rear suspension geometry looks different.

I think it's pullrod - a first for HRT.

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More here...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/96958

looks like a complication related to a previous injury.

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According to BBC Sport he has broken his right leg in an accident near his home...

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The thing is, I bet they have a point about the simulators costing so much, because I know for a fact that Marussia don't have one and are using McLaren's as are Force India I believe. I bet Toro Rosso are using Red Bull's too. How is this fair when those teams could pootle over to Silverstone one ...

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Here's my offering

Seb was annoying
That's what I'm talking about
Sky F1? No thanks

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This post screams of complete ignorance. Allow me to elaborate. 1.) This was the last race for that car anyway. The chassis that will be used next season has controversial wheelguards on the back end that prevent crashes like the one today. That decision was made last year and everyone knew that th...

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Just read that there were 33 cars running in that race on a 1.5 mile oval. Crazy.

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Jack O Melley wrote:Damn, I've just seen the vid of the shunt... speechless. It was freakin' terrible. Do you know something official about Dan's health?

ABC have announced his death. Just awful.

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Dan Wheldon seriously injured. It doesn't look at all good. More here:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95472

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ADx_Wales wrote:If I recall, A Minardi Mechanic died...

Don't think so - just injured.

I have the DVD - it's 106 minutes which I think is the same as the cinema release.

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Congrtulations to Jenson Button - in my mind his best win in F1 so far (Canada included). If you go back to Hungary '06 and all his previous McLaren wins rain and strategy all played a part. All great drives, but none won on sheer pace. Then his 6 wins for Brawn were delivered with a significant car...

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Barbazza wrote:I'd still quite like to know what happened to Ricciardo at the start - presume he hit a wall?

Apparently he hit Glock - which damaged Glock's car and caused his spin a few laps later.

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For me it has to be Hamilton and Schumacher . It was very clear from early in the race that DRS/KERS was making overtaking straightforward, to the point where drivers who were being passed did not bother even to attempt to defend their positions. Against that backdrop their was simply no need for ei...

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Nice one... keep up the good work!

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has anyone actually pointed out the fact that Bruno is now driving for the same team his uncle drove for in 1984..... Toleman.....Benetton...... Renault There is also the symbolism of a black and gold (Lotus) Renault... I'm delighted to see Bruno performing so well, the Senna name back at the sharp...

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Webber-Hamilton: Hamilton's fault, Mark gave him room, Hamilton was never fully alongside Button-Hamilton: racing incident. They both moved left at the same time. Button-Alonso: racing incident/Alonso's fault. Button got fully alongside/edged in front. Plus Jenson's puncture more than equalled a dr...

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J Washburn Stoker wrote:
noisebox wrote:I nominate f1rejects.com! How can you say anything in that race was reject worthy... the whole thing was epic from start to end!

It's a celebration of rejectdom, not a vilification of it!

That's what I mean - too good for anything reject worthy!

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I nominate f1rejects.com! How can you say anything in that race was reject worthy... the whole thing was epic from start to end!

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That race was pretty much Jenson Button's career in microcosm wasn't it? It started off with enormous promise, but then with some dodgy decisions and bad luck it all went spectacularly wrong and he seemed doomed to squander his talent at the back of the field. Then suddenly the cards fell for him, ...

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JQW wrote:Didn't Ligier run two different Gitanes liveries simultaneously during part of 1993?

Only Martin Brundle's car for the Japanese GP, I think.

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Slight spoiler, worth a read with reference to 1979, 1980 seasons...

http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/other-spor ... w_1_911758

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I think that the Prost portrayal was reasonable. While it's true that the clash at Suzuka 1989 was the top of the cake in their rivalry, it's also true that Prost was pretty good in politics and had a highly calculating mentality. The decision to disqualify Senna for cutting the chicane seemed also...

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Although there was a pretty touching moment in one of these scenes, when I realized that a certain thing looked like a premonition (don't want to spoil it for you!). Was it the 'New Years' thing? Yes Yep, that was a bit wierd. I loved te portrayal of Jean Marie Balestre - the only man who could mak...

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Just watched this tonight - a very interesting film with some cracking behind the scenes footage. I did think however, that it was not a balanced view of the Senna/Prost relationship - the '89 clash was shown and implicitly Prost was blamed, yet no mention of the events leading up to that (Senna squ...

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If they're going to be pedantic about it they should also be looking at the Rothmans inspired Williams livery, and Lucky Strike Hispania...

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mario wrote:Just to ask, but where did you hear the rumour of a partnership with McLaren?

Mario - it's mentioned on the Autosport report here http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91924

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This is porofundly wierd; Heidfeld is beating Petrov in the points, and its points that win prizes, not qualifying pace. Overall, its hughly unprofessional of Boullier to come out in the press like that, and it wouldn't surprise me if this is just publicrap to keep Lotus Renault in the news afterTe...

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You do know you have to go full lock on the steering to make it around that corner? Schumacher went past Hamilton on the entry to it on the first lap and Hamilton was still able to go full lock afterwards. Hamilton went up on the kerb and was trying to squeeze Massa past on the apex, so Massa had n...

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Bleu wrote:Schumacher and di Resta in Monaco

And Massa for his suicidal kiss on Rosberg at 180mph up the hill. If he's made contact with his wheels it would've been absolute carnage.

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I'm going to go angainst the grain here - I nominate Allan McNish . Hamilton was involved in racing incedents with Massa and Maldonado - Schumacher, Rosberg and Hamilton himself showed that overtaking was possible with some sensible driving from both parties. In particular, Massa definitely turned i...

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S951 wrote:chandock awesome cometary as usual

Love this quote from him:

"We have a real fight on for pole as Ferrari, McLaren and Red Bull all look very competitive as does Nico Rosberg's Mercedes"

There, there Schumi!

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David AGS wrote:Back to the 1989 Japanese Race, a pitstop took 15 seconds,

for that time that was pretty quick!

Also the pitlane was not subject to any speed limits - seriously scary stuff!

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I think a large part of the reliability improvements are down to the involvement of manufacturers - it aint good business to have your car grenading itself every other race, obviously the engine freeze has also helped, as as improvments in manufacturing technology which cut down duff parts. When the...

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Phoenix wrote:Not really comparable.

I realise that, but it does show how important aerodynamics are - the HRT and Red Bull have roughly the same power and weight, yet the performance differential is similar to that of a track focused supercar and a top end SUV.

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If it's two straights separated by a slow corner we could see quite a bit of overtake then re overtake. Factor in tyre wear and Canada could be comical...

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Ferrari have always had a very clear politic of number one/number two drivers, and not even pairings like Scheckter/Villeneuve and Prost/Mansell could break this. Apart from when they're crap - Alesi/Berger - no number one there! It would be quite amusing to see Hamilton and Alonso trundling around...

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Bear with me on this one... I subscribe to EVO magazine in the UK. This month they have done a track test comparing a Porsche 911 GT2 RS with a Cayenne Turbo. The GT2 RS has 611bhp and weighs 1370kg, the Cayenne has a mere 493bhp and tips the scales at 2170kg (which is rougly the same weight as Nige...

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I think there's more chance of this happening than ever before. What we're seeing now are the first moves in the post Bernie power struggle. I suspect that Bernie will retire at the end of 2012, which is why bidders are now sniffing around. The two things the teams will want out of this is more cont...

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