Grand Prix Rejects

If we are to have sprint races next year, I would propose that teams have third (and fourth?) cars built up and allow their reserve drivers and their F1 Academy drivers race. It's a great idea! Which is why it'll never happen. And if it did, Liam Lawson might well do an Agostini on the field. (Whic...

1. Verstappen 2. Perez 3. Leclerc 4. Norris 5. Hamilton 6. Sainz 7. Russell 8. Piastri 9. Alonso 10. Ocon PP: Verstappen FL: Verstappen First Retirement: Gasly ROTR: The race IIDOTR: Nobody DBTMOTR: Stroll LP: Sargeant FtP: Ocon I also guess that the double points joker kicks in now, since I've not ...

Ocon is another driver, like Russell (whom we discussed a few weeks ago), who doesn't seem to have much positive press around him for the average viewer. Almost all of his reputation is of being horrible to his teammates , even people like Perez who are almost always likeable and don't seem to have...

This is not a complaint, it's an observation, and it's about Esteban Ocon. I thought I'd made it before, but apparently I haven't. Or if I did and the search failed to bring it up, He's always been one of those drivers that I just didn't notice. Even when he was with Manor for half a season, and th...

Similarly, the rage vented at Baku disappeared not long afterwards You and I go to different forums obviously :P :P :D Toto would have a point, if he made it after FP2, not after 8 minutes. And while I don't hate the circuit itself personally (the track and the event itself are two different issues...

Free Practice - considering how much people paid to watch this event, for them to be basically shafted due to the organisers not having tested the track properly, only getting to see 8 minutes of action while staying up the whole night (until 2.30am) before being told to get lost (something not tol...

Early 'reject of the race' for the Vegas Circuit drain covers. Nice to see the return of F1's rarer issues When was the last time this happened? I can't remember at this point whether it's a race I've seen or one from the 1980s that I've only ever experienced on a season review video. But if I had ...

1: Verstappen 2: Leclerc 3: Sainz 4: Perez 5: Norris 6: Hamilton 7: Piastri 8: Russell 9: Alonso 10: Albon Pole: Leclerc Fastest Lap: Verstappen First Retirement: Sargeant ROTR: The race (inevitably fails to live up to the overblown hype cycle around it) IIDOTR: Albon DBTMOTR: Stroll LP: Magnussen F...

I am very much torn on the legitimacy of this. GM itself is moving towards an all-EV future for the most part, but Cadillac does still build and sell high-performance cars (with both V8s and TTV6s). GM has knowledge of high revving, small displacement turbo 6s with their Indycar engine (which they ...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/general-motors-registers-to-join-f1-as-engine-manufacturer-from-2028/10546412/ GM has formally joined F1 as an engine partner committing to build works engines for Andretti starting in 2028. Interesting. But will it be enough? It's an interesting development indee...

All the FIA need to do now is tell Felipe Massa to get knotted and reaffirm the results of every Grand Prix and every World Championship since 2008. Seriously, haven't they yeeted this one onto the pavement yet? The FIA was able to negotiate an extension until Nov 15th with Massa's legal representa...

And how is it decided who retires 'first' when there's a multiple collision at the start and two or three cars are out? Is it the car who gets hit first or who hits the wall first or the driver who hops out first? In that situation, where everything appears 'equal', I assume it goes back to qualify...

Alpine :P Aston Martin, how on earth they ve returned their early season form? I wonder if it is really a case of Aston Martin taking an upturn in form, or rather most other teams underperforming? Part of it seems to have been down to the sprint race resulting in other teams being unable to set the...

S1: Verstappen S2: Leclerc S3: Hamilton S4: Perez S5: Sainz S6: Russell S7: Norris S8: Piastri 1. Verstappen 2. Hamilton 3. Leclerc 4. Norris 5. Piastri 6. Sainz 7. Russell 8. Perez 9. Gasly 10. Ricciardo PP: Verstappen FL: Verstappen First Retirement: Stroll ROTR: Tsunoda IIDOTR: Gasly DBTMOTR: Sar...

As a shoutout but not at all a nomination. What the heck has happened to George Russell? He's just been like not good compared to the standards that we know of him. I'll also agree with this sentiment. I've only been able to catch the full races live every other event, but I must say that the broad...

2) Logan Sergant - last lap pit stop... did he think the checkered flag came out early? Sargeant is listed as having retired from the race due to a fuel pump issue, so it appears that it was an intentional retirement on mechanical grounds. There does seem to be something of an embarrassment of rich...

1. Verstappen
2. Norris
3. Perez
4. Hamilton
5. Leclerc
6. Piastri
7. Sainz
8. Russell
9. Gasly
10. Ocon

PP: Verstappen
FL: Verstappen
First Retirement: Stroll
ROTR: Aston Martin
IIDOTR: Norris
DBTMOTR: Sargeant
LP: Sargeant
FtP: Magnussen

The two planks but it also begs the question of how many others may have been illegal too but weren't checked? HM to anyone nominating the two drivers - it was out of their control even if they may have profited from performance. According to the FIA's records "A physical floor and a plank wea...

https://twitter.com/autosport/status/1716164842992660720 I do recall the Racefans site pointing out that there might have actually been an interesting issue if Hamilton had not started from the grid there. I believe they found that there was a technicality in the regulations that meant that a minim...

https://twitter.com/autosport/status/1715764216894803976 Discuss. To be honest, while I am a big F1 fan, I don't always necessarily have the time to dedicate to watch ALL the ontrack action live. I often have to resort to watching on delay by half an hour or whatever, depending on timings and whate...

S1: Verstappen S2: Norris S3: Leclerc S4: Piastri S5: Perez S6: Hamilton S7: Russell S8: Sainz 1. Verstappen 2. Norris 3. Piastri 4. Hamilton 5. Russell 6. Leclerc 7. Sainz 8. Perez 9. Ocon 10. Alonso PP: Verstappen FL: Verstappen First Retirement: Hulkenberg ROTR: Haas IIDOTR: None DBTMOTR: Sargean...

As of right now Mario, what is being reported over here is very much "Celebs X, Y, and Z are now part owners" and "Celebs invest in F1 team" now if they are using a third party fund, that makes infinitely more sense (especially given what RoGro has told us about Reynolds soccer ...

I have to say that I'm a little surprised that there does not seem to have been any comments about Bernie pleading guilty in his latest fraud trial and agreeing to pay £653 million in compensation to HMRC. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67088503 I guess that it is a reflection of how Bernie's influe...

I have to say that I'm a little surprised that there does not seem to have been any comments about Bernie pleading guilty in his latest fraud trial and agreeing to pay £653 million in compensation to HMRC. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67088503 I guess that it is a reflection of how Bernie's influen...

Terrible race for Perez, Stroll and Sargeant. Perez has still not settled into "take second and enjoy it" mode, making many mistakes and being in the wrong place all the time. Surely his time at Red Bull is limited to a maximum of one more season. Stroll was terrible all weekend. With his...

I am going to throw one thing out here that has now emerged after the race, which is deciding to hold a race at this time of year and in very high temperatures. It turns out that the reason that Logan Sargeant withdrew from the race was because he was so dehydrated that he had to be taken to the med...

On another note, it seems that there is a new rumour going round that appears to have been started by a reporter for Radio Le Mans, and it is a claim that Audi are now looking at shutting down their Formula 1 programme at the end of this year. If that is the case, then suddenly things aren't looking...

S1: Verstappen S2: Norris S3: Leclerc S4: Piastri S5: Perez S6: Sainz S7: Hamilton S8: Russell 1: Verstapen 2: Norris 3: Piastri 4: Perez 5: Leclerc 6: Sainz 7: Hamilton 8: Russell 9: Alonso 10: Lawson Pole: Verstappen Fastest Lap: Verstappen First Retirement: Bottas ROTR: Alfa Romeo IIDOTR: Lawson ...

significant element of Sulayem showboating We probably got a little spoiled by the several years of a relatively quiet Jean Todt. That's not to say anything good or bad about what he accomplished, just that he wasn't noisy in the way of Sulayem or Max or Balestre. I don't know - even compared to Mo...

As an aside, is it just me, or does it come across as a bit of muscle flexing by the FIA, or rather by Sulayem Yes, the whole process reeks of a chess game by both sides with Andretti used as a pawn, especially by the FIA side (Sulayem). Even so, I would prefer for a new team to come in and liven t...

What is the point of another team? To improve the show? To increase the revenue for F1? To give long term stability of a team goes under? Allowing teams to run a third race car, but then making the team select which two cars will count for the WDC and/or WCC before the race start, might be a soluti...

Thanks gents! So in the last 10-20 years, the price for a functioning team (minus Honda's nominal price) has gone from about $100± million to approaching $1 billion. That is pretty astonishing. I'll bet that the 2010 new teams' owners wish they'd held on. Now those entries would be worth hundreds o...

We have talked about this here and there in the past. I honestly don't see how any racing organization could ever possibly afford the costs to join at this point. The main incentive of the fee is to screen out privateer entrants - a major automotive manufacturer could afford that sort of fee, but t...

Yeah, it's not looking good. I finally got around to reading Mark Hughes' analysis of it in September's Motor Sport and it was helpful in highlighting the difference in the alignment of interests between the FIA on one side and Liberty/the teams on the other. He hinted at the possibility of a team ...

In other news: The FIA has rejected bids from all but Andretti Global with regards to potential new teams. The entrants that have been turned down were apparently LKY SUNZ, Rodin Carlin and Hitech, and I'm not really surprised that they were all turned down. There were suggestions that the LKY SUNZ...

Reject of the Race poll is up for Singapore! You have 48 hours to get voting :dance: Perhaps, in retrospect, the poll should have included the stewards - it turns out that Matteo Perini, who was one of the stewards in Singapore and also served as a steward in Japan, told the team bosses that the st...

In other news: The FIA has rejected bids from all but Andretti Global with regards to potential new teams. The entrants that have been turned down were apparently LKY SUNZ, Rodin Carlin and Hitech, and I'm not really surprised that they were all turned down. There were suggestions that the LKY SUNZ...

Just had something pop up about Sainz, as it seems he is throwing his team under the bus a bit. In some of the post-race interviews, he's quoted as saying "they pitted with Charles to secure the position, and I was somewhat sacrificed". However, somebody has found the radio transmissions b...

Sergio Perez. While Verstappen drove to another flawless victory, Perez had a nightmare weekend. -Qualified seven tenths and four places behind Max -Got caught up in a start collision -Overtook cars behind the safety car -Only a few laps into his recovery drive hit Magnussen -Damaged his car furthe...

It’s gotta be Perez I’m afraid, he’s had a good 3 years of boosting up his win and podium stats but it’s time to get someone else, Merc, Ferrari and McLaren will all get stronger and I can’t see him making the end of 2024 if if that’s the case Sargeant: His form has now got to the point where I’ve ...

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