Grand Prix Rejects

James1978

There's no way I would have thought after qualifying that Merc would get a double podium so I'm saying them. I thought they might even struggle to beat McLaren/Alpine!

James1978

All over red rover. I'll say this, even if Mercedes are struggling this year at least their reliability is bulletproof unlike Red Bull and especially Ferrari. Russell was just unlucky with his first lap accident at Silverstone!

James1978

I think with the track limits, if everyone was doing it then the criteria is too harsh. If it was 1 or 2 drivers yes but not nearly everyone!

Otherwise Vettel was pretty poor for a 4-time champion, and Sainz's engine, well that a blow-up from the 80s turbo days!

James1978

Schumacher slam-dunks this for me. Saw flashes of his father in there with his reaction after the sprint!

Can't really think of a 2nd vote TBH, maybe Haas as a whole as Magnussen was just behind making it their best 2-car result in quite some time.

James1978

Ricciardo. What's happened to him lately? Maybe he needs to move teams.

James1978

I think more than anything it has to be the fact that Zhou and Albon are still with us.

James1978

Oh and I agree it was definitely the denying Kubica a race seat with Sirotkin, rather than his replacing Massa who was meant to retire a year earlier anyway! Some more for me: Heidfeld not getting a full time seat in 2010 (was PDLR who'd been out of racing for 3 years really a better bet?) and losin...

James1978

A couple I felt in the 90s were Mark Blundell not getting a seat for 1996, then Martin Brundle not getting one in 1997, despite the fact he was near retirement age, I don't think he actually wanted to. Though looking back I do feel Blundell definitely fits into the category you're citing, maybe Brun...

James1978

2013

James1978

dr-baker wrote: ↑18 Jun 2022, 15:53 I imagine that 2022 will end up being a tight battle between Perez and Russell.

Checo was classified in Bahrain but didn't see the flag IIRC. Russell, Hamilton and Ocon are the only 3 still in at this point.

James1978

Well 2002 will be just as rubbish as real life!

James1978

Just double-checked - Hamilton and Ocon are the only other drivers to finish every race so far!

James1978

Russell must surely have got this one this year as all 4 of the Red Bull/Ferrari drivers have had at least 1 DNF?

James1978

Gasly and Vettel were really the only ones finishing higher than you would reasonably expect.

James1978

Ferrari really do slam-dunk it but on any other day Alpha Tauri duct-taping Tsunoda's rear wing would be reject gold.

Ferrari power units also screwed Zhou's best showing so far.

Both Canadian drivers, McLaren's team strategy and Mercedes porpoising are big DHMs too.

James1978

If nobody could get RotR for 2 (or more) successive races than it's a relief it didn't exist in 1996 because I'm sure Ferrari would have got it 3 times in a row then (Canada, France, Britain) - both cars retired within a few laps each time including 2 false starts for Schumacher!

James1978

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/the-s ... /10313764/

Latifi a Red Bull secret agent anyone? (Albon is sort of expected but Latifi has no known history with them but seems to inadvertently help them out all the time)

James1978

Not so much for this race in isolation but I think a lot of teams' perceived second drivers are doing really well lately, such as: Checo - if he'd been allowed to win in Spain too, he'd be just a single point behind Max. Red Bull might get another Vettel/Webber situation soon. Sainz - fought back w...

James1978

Ferrari seem to have many ways of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!

James1978

Not so much for this race in isolation but I think a lot of teams' perceived second drivers are doing really well lately, such as: Checo - if he'd been allowed to win in Spain too, he'd be just a single point behind Max. Red Bull might get another Vettel/Webber situation soon. Sainz - fought back we...

James1978

The 2 British youngsters - the country is going to be in top hands even when Hamilton retires.

Actually Latifi gets an honourable mention here as he's been pounded all season - best I've seen from him for a while.

James1978

Ferrari save Leclerc has got to win this hands down for me. I don't have a problem with Red Bull doing what they did - they're in a proper fight with Ferrari and possibly now Mercedes too, it's a no-brainer to "max"imise Verstappen's points. This was no Austria 2002. Ferrari need to do the...

James1978

Verstappen is now the driver I most expect to win any given race - this century it's been Schumacher, then Alonso, then Vettel then Hamilton, now Max - so him winning a race is therefore almost normal rather than anything IIDOTR worthy. Not that it takes anything away from this performance but I sti...

James1978

I should always wait to look on the Monday on Autosport to see which driver got the lowest mark out of 10 as that should base the RotR decision, and it was Alonso (he got 3, Schumacher got 4). Thought none of the veteran champions are looking very good at the moment in all truth. Did anyone expect R...

James1978

What everyone else has said.

James1978

Albon is doing wonderfully at the moment so he gets my #1 vote, just a shame he couldn't beat Alonso after the penalty. Second vote goes to Russell, I did NOT expect another top 5 position after qualifying for him. At this rate Hamilton will have to support him.

James1978

If it hadn't have been for Hamilton I'd have said Ferrari for choking at home - though the way the championship is going, their errors are far more costly than anything Hamilton was or wasn't doing!

Schumacher, Zhou, Latifi and Ricciardo are all being obliterated by their teammates too.

James1978

Norris has to get it for me - if you'd said in Bahrain that a McLaren would get a podium 3 races later.....

Next up would be Bottas - what a shame about his botched pitstop then he could have beaten BOTH Mercedes!

James1978

I'm saying Albon then Russell. McLaren really were around where they should be expected to be based on 2019 - 21 form.

James1978

Aston Martin probably get this hands down.

James1978

For the sake of this championship, it would actually be a good thing for the midfield teams to catch up with Mercedes, rather than them catch Red Bull and Ferrari!!

James1978

Going for Lando as first choice, and Russell as 2nd choice - thrashed Hamilton all weekend.

James1978

I'm beginning to wonder if Max has hired Latifi as a secret agent to crash every time he needs a safety car

James1978

I was thinking there's got to be someone missing out of that line-up but it suddenly dawned on me Albon won 2020!. Half the field are eliminated (and I'd even forgotten Hulkenberg was a former champ at this too)!

James1978

K-Mag then Bottas for me. (Would have been the other way round if Bottas hadn't muffed the start, I'm sure he would have had P5 instead).

James1978

Red Bull get this hands down, but for everyone saying McLaren, it might be more appropriate to say Mercedes-powered cars in general, as the works team were a clear third, and the 3 customer teams filled the last 6 places on the road (obviously the Red Bulls were classified behind them). Maybe only W...

James1978

I'm please we get to see how Schumacher goes with an experienced driver in the other car as a yardstick - think it's a good move by the team.

James1978

I would have said before Abu Dhabi, Latifi would have been a contender for this thread, even his points finish in Hungary was pretty much forgotten after Russell's podium in the non-Spa race.

James1978

I reckon if Hamilton gets fined or penalised for missing the awards ceremony then he walks away from the sport which would be tragic given it would all be because the rules got changed at the last minute.......and rumours are saying if that happens then Bottas gets recalled to Mercedes and Giovinazz...

James1978

Some recompense for Hamilton is to think back to 2008 and an equally dodgy safety car (not at the last race, but in Singapore) - without that, Massa would have probably won the race, and with it would have had enough points in hand in Brazil for the Glock situation to have been completely irrelevant...

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