Grand Prix Rejects

James1978

Lando - comedy vote

James1978

Having more than half the field eliminated is mental but I guess part of the reason for that is teams seemingly preferring experienced drivers like Haas and now Alpha Tauri. Indeed of the bottom 4 teams, all of them have a driver eliminated with Albon and Bottas completing the group.

James1978

I will tie it between Red Bull for breaking the consecutive wins record (yes it was boring but that doesn't happen everyday. I thought McLaren's 1988 record would never be broken) and McLaren themselves because I didn't expect them to carry over their Silverstone form here. But both are kinda tenuou...

James1978

Go for something a bit different - the British weather. Denied us an exciting finish to the Ashes (which would have been far more exciting than the race)! Otherwise all Ferrari-engined cars - the works team for looking totally amateurish again, Haas just going backwards and Alfa Romeo scoring a mass...

James1978

Har1MAS1415 wrote: ↑17 Jul 2023, 09:05 In more recent times, Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen, must be at least three times now.

I count 6, I think:

Bahrain 2018
Imola, Silverstone, Monza and Saudi Arabia 2021 (Brazil was a near-miss)
Brazil 2022

James1978

Having had Big Zeddie cover 2000 on YouTube, and me do an alternative championship for that year along with it (ie lose Ferrari and McLaren and see what you're left with) - Fisichella scored 49 points up to Canada and 3 for the rest of the year

James1978

Never thought De Vries should have been in that seat anyway - he's essentially a Mercedes man and having him in their arch-rivals' squad didn't really fit for me. If anything he should have been in a Williams. Checo better watch it!

James1978

Both what's been said already but I also really liked McLaren's special livery.

James1978

Checo - Max could be leading the constructors ON HIS OWN. Guess he's lucky Max doesn't need his help like 2021!

James1978

Oh another nomination (but related) - Hulkenberg triggered one when he pulled off to retire. Hilarious

James1978

I find it quite interesting that Hamilton has got countless shouts for airing his frustrations over the team radio, but not a single shout for Sainz for his pathetic attempts to get a penalty for Perez. It wasn't great but at least Fred didn't have to tell Carlos off like Toto did, PLUS he could sa...

James1978

Yep I think that's the clincher

James1978

I will just go with one - Red Bull. Now, let me say that I do genuinely think Verstappen is a genuinely fantastic driver. But the team he drives for me gives me such "villain" energy from any number of competitive sports movies (Talladega Nights/Dodgeball/ CARS). Verstappen pitting for a ...

James1978

Hmm - I want to say Hamilton but he did say what everyone was thinking about RB dominance at the start of the weekend, except he enjoyed a similar period himself. And not EVERYONE got track limits penalties but it seems half the field did. DHM to Max (yes really) - that was putting UNBELIEVABLE pres...

James1978

Mainly Lando but HM to Ferrari. Think how exciting it would be without Red Bull (or even if Checo was number 1, Max never existed and someone crap was in that car instead)

James1978

Checo to me is a lot like Fisichella - great in midfield cars but struggles at a top team when they're up against a truly great driver in Max or Alonso for Fisi. But I still think RB will struggle to find a better #2 - he did help Max after all in 2021 when it was a close run thing and this year Max...

James1978

Only 1 choice here.

James1978

The incident between De Vries and Magnussen was good old-fashioned rejectfulness. :D I thought exactly the same, I was laughing at them both trying to rejoin :-) Otherwise DHMs to Russell, Perez and Stroll though they are up against the top 3 drivers in the same cars so always facing a hard task.

James1978

I had forgotten Jean-Eric Vergne when I saw a clip from 2014 and saw a "VER" on the running order and thought to myself "but Max Verstappen didn't start until 2015"!!!!

James1978

I had to go back through this to remind myself when Hulkenberg won (because he obviously isn't in the 2023 line-up). I'm stunned it was as early as 2012 as I don't remember him doing that much that year apart from Brazil when he was battling for the lead with the McLarens. Just lots of minor points ...

James1978

Zhou was the only one who finished much higher than you would expect, once Tsunoda's penalty kicked in.

Yes Mercedes improved but still nearly half a minute off Max so not where they need to be still.

James1978

Everyone but Max, or phantom rain

James1978

I think my avatar doesn't say that in general - I just thought it was funny given the distance he'd dropped back by the end

James1978

I didn't vote for him, but seeing Russell as an option made me remember something which I thought was quite hilarious - him being repeatedly on the blower to the team to get him let past Lewis to try and protect him from his penalty, only to finish 12 seconds behind him at the end - has shades of Oc...

James1978

You know what, I never thought I'd say this but I'm going to give an HM to Max as well. Worryingly for the others (and for all the fans who want a close fight like me) he's also added maturity to all his other strengths - I reckon even up to 2021 he'd have lost that race in those conditions, I could...

James1978

It's a toss-up between: Checo - the most costly in that it waves goodbye to any hopes we had of a championship battle. Effectively became a guinea pig for Max in the changing conditions. Stroll - if the team have got serious top-contending aspirations then the owner's son is becoming a liability. Al...

James1978

Ocon and indeed the Alpine team - nice to have a fifth team in there in the hunt for podiums at least - hopefully they can make the big 4 a big 5 (or the chasing 3 a chasing 4 instead). Also McLaren showed some good pace at the end too. I will say at Monaco more often than not that cream usually ris...

James1978

Actually I'll elaborate - I feel 2002 WAS worse. Ferrari were able to play games then like trying to stage a dead heat, switching at the last minute in Austria, and other games like slowing down then catching up again such as Hungary, or will they/won't they at Nurburgring. At least on this occasio...

James1978

What if Damon Hill had joined Jordan a year earlier? Probably would have scored their first win a year early, given how good the Jordan was in 1997, no offence to Ralf or Fisichella but a more experienced driver certainly could and would have won a race. I said the same on Big Zeddie's YouTube chan...

James1978

Actually I'll elaborate - I feel 2002 WAS worse. Ferrari were able to play games then like trying to stage a dead heat, switching at the last minute in Austria, and other games like slowing down then catching up again such as Hungary, or will they/won't they at Nurburgring. At least on this occasion...

James1978

Stroll to be out of the points when his teammate is on the podium was just about the only thing standout here. Yes and the state of F1 but what can you do, punish someone for being good and give them weight penalties like they used to in Touring Cars? But 2002 and 2004 were very similar and I think ...

James1978

Was almost going to say nobody but Alpine's 6 points could be big in the fight for P5 in the constructors.

James1978

I think De Vries got mega overhyped after his performance at Monza last year - it was one race on a circuit which suited the Williams and it was only Latifi in the other car so probably just luck rather than anything else. But Yuki is wiping the floor with him!

James1978

Has to be Yuki really. A Red Bull 1-2 even if it was the opposite way round to what was expected thought it was a specialist circuit for Checo, the chasing 3 teams covering 3rd to 8th and Lando top of F1.5 is all expected I guess.

James1978

The pitlane shenanigans at the end is a deal-clincher but DHMs to Alfa, Alpine, Haas and De Vries. And Max for his pathetic rant about Russell and Horner for condoning it :-) Max had a face like a slapped arse all weekend TBH :-) Let's face it no other team can challenge RB at the moment so good on ...

James1978

Max Ver-strap-on

James1978

I have it in my mind that if Hill had been in the 1998 McLaren then MSC would have won the championship, as Hill takes more points off Hakkinen than Coulthard does earlier in the season, plus MSC wins Spa because Hill is further up the road than DC so doesn't get lapped and therefore THAT accident d...

James1978

Kvyat had 3 separate stints at Toro Rosso/Alpha Tauri and Gasly had 2.

James1978

Rob Dylan wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 04:05 It would have given us a Heidfeld win, and for me nothing else matters after that. They can just stop F1 and everyone can go home.

Sorry to be (slightly) boring, but Kimi surely if he got out of the pits unscathed?

James1978

I saw that initially on Facebook and though "Pah, that's ludicrous, Autosport or it didn't happen!". Then I flick over to Autosport and lo and behold, there it is!! The debate should stop at "Ferrari might have just as easily botched the pitstop under normal green flag conditions"...

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