Grand Prix Rejects

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Japan 2002 was shared between the 9 teams apart from Ferrari due to them all failing miserably to even get close to challenging Ferrari, as had been the case all season. That's why so many teams scores end in .11. I agree it's surprising that they've never won it outright. In particular they were lu...

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Jenson Button overtakes Ferrari to move from 5th to 4th!

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Your country: UK First Hungarian GP you watched: 2003 What were your feelings when finding out that Hungary is/will be part of the Formula One calendar: Indifference, I was too young to even really know where Hungary was, let alone understand the politics/history behind it. Which country would be th...

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Well Valencia Street Circuit certainly got RotR in its first race! But Gutierrez is probably a record for drivers...

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Updated for China. Gutierrez debuts in joint 47th.

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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Gonna nominate the 'start on the tyres you qualify in Q3 with'. It's 3 years out of date but the FIA refuses to get rid if it for god knows what reason.

Seconded.

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Also Australia 2003 is missing. (And Monza 2000 had a death but still had a RotR). I reckon they just forgot for all of those races.

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There was no RotR for Australia 2001, don't know why, it's not mentioned in the race review, personally I suspect they just forgot.

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Yes it comes from 1/2 (0.50) of Europe 2007, 1/6 (0.17, well, 0.1666...) of Bahrain 2008, now 1/4 (0.25) of Malaysia 2013. So actually it's .91666..., i.e. 11/12ths. No-one's shared as many awards as Hamilton, although Raikkonen has the odd-looking .31 (actually .30555...) courtesy of 1/18th (0.0555...

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Updated for Malaysia. Ferrari jump from 9th to 4th, Red Bull go from joint 27th to 26th, Raikkonen stays 3rd, Hamilton stays 11th.

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Fernando Alonso and Ferrari Hitting the back of Vettel was silly enough, but what followed was ridiculous. Not only was it never going to work, it was extremely dangerous - the flailing wing could have caused a nasty accident injuring Alonso or other drivers. Apparently it was Ferrari's call to sta...

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Pastor Maldonado jumps from 19th to 13th, tied with fellow South American hothead Juan Pablo Montoya! I've got an idea for this thread looking at some of the posts on the thread about the 2012 season review - I reckon it would be a good idea to somewhere (perhaps the first post on this thread) list ...

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Do some people still not realize how the races are decided? The BBC start by picking 3 races to show live, then Sky choose 3 to have exclusively, then after that they take it in turns to pick one at a time until all the races are chosen. Clearly with this system, both channels are going to end up wi...

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Updated for Brazil. Paul di Resta debuts in joint 47th...

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Well I looked at the leaderboard & saw "Mercedes" listed with 2 RotRs, but they were as an engine supplier, so for consistency with Toyota, Ferrari etc I retitled that entity "Mercedes engines" while Mercedes GP debuts in joint 47th. It is tricky deciding what to do in these ...

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Fixed, thanks for pointing it out.

And yes, it's the 1st time since Spa that it's gone to a driver who had previously had an award, and the 1st time since Hungary that it's gone to just one driver who'd previously had one.

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Updated for Abu Dhabi. Mark Webber vaults from joint 13th to joint 8th, level with Felipe Massa and Takuma Sato.

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eytl wrote: Or at least that we would surpass 2003, when there were 8 different winners. It looks like neither will happen.

You've worked out how to use the curse alright!

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Updated for India. The New Delhi haze debuts in joint 47th.

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Yeah I've always thought it strange that they've never received an outright RotR considering how many blunders they've always made.

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Updated for Korea. The 5 elements of f1 Gangam Style debut in joint 117th.

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Kamui Kobayashi - "What an idiot" / Hero to Zero / "Yes, McLaren did choose the right Sauber driver" etc.

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Martin Brundle - "The track temperature has gone from 28 to 32 degrees so it's 15% warmer now" He needs a physics lesson...

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Updated for Suzuka. Perez debuts in joint 47th.

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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Jake Humphrey for calling Kobayashi's 3rd place grid spot "the best ever start for a Japanese driver". Forgotten Spa already, have you?

In think he said "best ever start for a Japanese driver in the Japansese GP. If not that's almsot certainly what he meant to say.

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HI people! This Sunday I´m in Swansea. Just wanted to ask if this race is broadcasted on BBC or Sky Sports, to know my chances of watching the race basically (or if anybody knows a place where I can watch the GP live in Swansea is welcome anyway, although I don´t really know if there´ll be any plac...

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I guess basic mistakes and tortoise pace are just taken for granted as the norm from him, so not usually punished with RotR. Whereas arguably Schumacher's 7 time champion status is part of the reason why he has so many. (It's not just his comeback, he would've been top when his 1st career ended, and...

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Updated for Singpore. Karthikeyan debuts in joint 47th.

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I believe Alonso's style of driving is very car friendly. That's why he has so few mechanical failures. That is a real skill. Fernando won't go down in the history as a quick driver, but rather as a complete driver that had it all. I just don't buy the idea that a driver's style can affect the like...

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But still, it's quite amazing to think of the races he's won through others' mechanical failures compared to that; Europe 2005, Germany 2005, Japan 2006, Bahrain 2010, Korea 2010, Europe 2012 You missed out Imola 2005, well remembered for the duel between Alonso and Schumacher at the end, what's le...

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Leaderboard updated for Monza. Red Bull improve from 46th to 27th, level with their former driver Christian Klien amongst other entities.

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Yes definitely, they both got off lightly here, but I have to stick to the system I've used for the past 3.5 years.

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At least Maldonado's won a race! Maldonado was ahead in the championship until Spa, so we'll see which of the two comes out on top. But championship position has never been the only factor behind the rankings anyway. I think Massa has a better car, although it's very difficult to say for certain be...

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At least Maldonado's won a race! Maldonado was ahead in the championship until Spa, so we'll see which of the two comes out on top. But championship position has never been the only factor behind the rankings anyway. I think Massa has a better car, although it's very difficult to say for certain bec...

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He might have competition from Massa!

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Updated for Spa. Maldonado jumps from joint 22nd to 19th, whiel Grosjean jumps from joint 45th to joint 37th.

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Ben Edwards and David Coulthard - for describing the most blatant jump start of all time to "superb reactions from Maldonado the instant the lights went out" The TV director - For missing numerous incidents - like Maldonado's collision with Glock and some of the passes near the front, lik...

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Ben Edwards and David Coulthard - for describing the most blatant jump start of all time to "superb reactions from Maldonado the instant the lights went out" The TV director - For missing numerous incidents - like Maldonado's collision with Glock and some of the passes near the front, lik...

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Ferrari still 2nd in the WCC with only 1 driver!

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So Hakinen takes his 1st win over 2 years earlier than in real life!

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