Grand Prix Rejects

ibsey

Thanks for the additional detail Mario. Much appreciated

Not sure if you are aware of the below article on the Chapman/Williams affair written by the dauagter of Peter Collins no less.

http://www.allinsport.ch/history/instant-notoriety/

An amusing read if you have the time.

ibsey

Thanks for that article giraurd and I certainly hold more weight to Lehto claims now given he has stated it 'on record'. However, it seems implausible to me that both Verstappen and Lehto would have come up with similar, completely false statements about Schumacher's car being way different to their...

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re: the 1994 saga, ibsey: you seem to suggest that Verstappen is the only one who publicly accuses the Benetton be illegal - obviously you don't know this but JJ Lehto was a Finnish TV commentator (until his personal incident with the boat..) and whenever the topic of Benetton 1994 arose, he certai...

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Collieafc wrote:I will also wade in with a thumbs up - I may not be posting here but I am reading your posts on this thread ibsey and find them a good read!

Thanks Mate I really appreciate your comments

ibsey

I am really rather interested in what you have researched and uncovered. I have not (yet?) done any research to prove or disprove your argument. Thanks baker and I am really glad you are interested in this research. Similarly if you know of any evidence which might disprove anything I have said thu...

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Can I just say that I see no point in all this yet this (onesided) discussion seems to be going on and on and on and on... As I said earlier I am trying to uncover the real truth behind 1994. And I am finding it all mind blowing stuff. Since I've also spent alot of my time researching what I have p...

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Bit bored at work today and came across the following; Pat Symmonds; But Ayrton’s death stopped us all in our tracks. Engineers are quite pragmatic, and the shock soon turned into frustration at some of the knee-jerk reaction of the rule-makers. The FIA had to be seen to be doing something, but ther...

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Flavio's milkshake brings max to the yard

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I can imagine Max introducing his friends to Flavio like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8kPqAV_74M

Wait a minute isn't Bernie that height?

ibsey

CoopsII i've finally figured it out!

Max must have liked the look of Flavio in that maniki and that why he was so intent on trying to bathplug Flavio all the time.

ibsey

CoopsII wrote:OK Ibsey, you've done it now. They're out of the car and they're on the way...

I'll start to really worry when Flavio puts on his Maniki...

http://forums.f1weekly.com/printthread.php?tid=3231

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Just being reading Motorsport's report on the 1994 German GP from their Sept 1994 issue. Under the 'Benetton in the dock' article, it states that the FIA & Charlie Whitley took the unprecedented step of releasing the full text of their report on the TC/LC investigation following the full analysi...

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M Schumi claims Berger's win at 1994 German GP was illegal because his plank had been worn by 60%. Yet nothing was done about it. However when M Schumi plank was worn by less than 20% at Spa (two races later) he & Benetton were disqualified from a race he had won. m (see from around 8 mins onwar...

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Just when you thought you knew it all, more evidence emerges into what really when on in 1994: m For those who don’t have the time to read the whole article there is a story about the powers that be in F1 at the time persuaded Benetton to appeal the Silverstone decision when Benetton initially did n...

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The one thing I'm sure of is that during "The Adelaide Incident", Schumacher's judgment could be impaired under pressure, as subsequent incidents would prove. And I was/am a Hill fan, so I'm likely biased, and I hope that Michael is continuing to recover from his brain injury, but I find ...

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I haven't been following this page much other than posting some silly photos so I apologise if my point has already been made but being as Briatore was involved in The Piquet Incident the balance of probability retrospectively would suggest he was more than capable of instigating any old scam in or...

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In hindsight, Schumacher would have done better to hold behind Hill on that warm-up lap at Silverstone to give his detractors less ammunition to fire towards him. I agree however it is suggested in that autosport thread (which I posted the link to in my earlier post), that M Schumi had to drive at ...

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No not really. Certainly not Matchett. He was a man in F1 who didn't even want to be there and was glad when he got out and could start making money selling his stories in book form. Surely Matchett would have made an awful lot more money from his books had he "blown the whistle" on the B...

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I'm trying to uncover the real truth about 1994 http://survive55.com/uploads/3/4/3/3/34331028/2355494_orig.jpg And be careful ibsey, think about the parties involved and what could happen to you if the truth came out.... So that explains why there are two guys constantly parked outside my house who...

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I read all this, and all I see is lots of speculation, lots of ifs and buts and nothing really clear cut. No definite proof. . You don't think Toet or Machett comments (stated in my 2012 posts) can be consider proof? Remember both of whom were Benetton engineers in 1994 and both of whom haven't wor...

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In hindsight, Schumacher would have done better to hold behind Hill on that warm-up lap at Silverstone to give his detractors less ammunition to fire towards him. I agree however it is suggested in that autosport thread (which I posted the link to in my earlier post), that M Schumi had to drive at ...

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Former Benetton Engineer admits they used TC in 1994... m but if you read the update on 12/12/16 it was legal (letter of law not intent of law) traction control. And before anyone says it was not the intent of the law, I can point to various examples where teams went against the 'spirit of the regu...

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I guess the reason why most current F1 drivers cite 80's/90's drivers as there hero's because F1 was a damn sexy back then. I mean not only was the cars basically a driver seat strapped to a ridiculous powerful engine which when the weren't spitting out their drivers were spiting flames and deafenin...

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Just throwing this in the mix but Jackie Stewart's icon was Fangio & Gilles icon was Ronnie Peterson.

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Long Beach '82 was probably the closest de Cesaris got to Maldonado's 2012 Spanish GP, came out of nowhere to stick it on pole, led for a bit, lost the lead to a then double world champion, ran second for a bit, except where Pastor retook the lead, Andrea binned it again. Rumor has it that the reas...

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I was initially impressed by the fact he was right on Piquet's tail come the end, but he was probably stroking it home, plus the fact a delayed and lapped Alain Prost was buzzing around on the final laps. In Brundle book "Working the Wheel" Martin reckoned he could have won that race had ...

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Another quick thought on the Bellof's drive at Monaco 1984 v Brunde at Detroit point. Wikipedia states; (Tyrrell's) lighter weight and lower horsepower combined to give much better tire wear. In Detroit, this allowed them to use the softer Goodyear compound, while all the others had to use the harde...

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Tend to agree with this - looking at that 1984 season, usually there wasn't much between him and Brundle, Haven't look at the stats for 1984 but I vividly remember Brundle saying something along the lines that he felt Bellof was faster than him but what hurt Bellof was his willingness to take more ...

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dinizintheoven wrote:So where exactly did they get the substances from that convinced them they could be beating Williams in 1993?

Jamaica, Colombia, or cloud cuckoo land?

That's exactly what I was thinking, along with where can I get some...

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How good would Jim Clark have been without Colin Chapman? I ask this because I'm a massive Clark fan, and he strikes me as more of a 'natural' driver rather than a 'technical' driver. So I wonder how good he was at setting cars up by himself and without Chapman's guidance? Especially given his backg...

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I keep forgetting that Gabriele Tarquini drove for Tyrrell at Nurburgring in 1995. Probably because I'm more interested in what Deletraz was doing that day

Also I find Verstappen's stint at Tyrrell pretty unremarkable.

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Miguel98 wrote:And in that moment, Flavio knew he bathplug up when he hired Johnny.

How was that incident Herbert's fault?

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Didn't Jean Alesi crash driving out of the garage once when he was driving for Prost? That might be a figment of my imagination but if it did actually happen then it's absolutely legendary. That does sound like the kind of thing Alesi would do, but I can't remember it myself. Alesi did however run ...

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-Roberto Moreno, on the same day as Coutlhards legendary crash. You beat me at posting that one.Also Johnny Herbert came in to the pits too fast that day and had to abort his entrance however he didn't crash. IIRC Maldonado & Rosberg did a Hamilton at China during free practice sessions in 2014...

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Johnny Herbert did a race or two for Tyrrell around Spa 1989 IIRC On a side note I've just noticed he raced for 3 different teams in 1994 (Lotus Ligier and Benetton) I wonder if anyone else can beat that? EDIT; Just noticed Herbert at Tyrrell has already been mentioned. There is however Capelli stin...

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Wasn't it the case that Prost couldn't join McLaren as he technically still had a contract with Williams, but Prost didn't want to race in a team with Senna once more? It is true that Prost didn't want to race with Senna at Williams in 1994. I don't believe for a second that Prost was being a chick...

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Regarding McLaren in 1994 and a Honda, would Prost have rejoined them if a competitve engine and package was still there? The interesting side is do we get Mercedes staying with Sauber as McLaren have an engine partner? Potentially Schumacher joining Sauber in 1996 instead of Ferrari due to previou...

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At gnrpoison thanks for your detailed response I didn't appreciate just how much F1 in the mid / late 1980's probably would have changed by Honda sticking with Spirit. Certainly food for thought there. But how cool would it have been to see a powerful turbo engine like Honda in an awful chassis with...

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That reminds me of Austria 2001 when 4 cars towards the front of the grid all stalled during the start of the race. Due to their new LC systems.

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What if Honda carried on with the Spirit outfit in the mid 80's rather than supplying engines to Williams and then Mclaren. Success?

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