Grand Prix Rejects

More announcements this weekend, but this one might slightly disappoint some - Alpha Tauri will be sticking with a Ricciardo-Tsunoda line up, with Lawson being demoted back to reserve status. Considering his performances, you would have thought that the team might be looking at Lawson, but evidently...

Not sure if it should go here or into another thread, but it's now been confirmed that Piastri will be extending his contract with McLaren until 2026.

I’ll give Alonso a pass after finding out that he suffered a cracked suspension in the early stages of the race, it can’t have been easy to control at a place like Singapore. I’m amazed he still finished the race tbh. The reports I've seen have said that the suspension itself was fine, it was just ...

The "normal service has resumed" GP

1. Verstappen
2. Norris
3. Leclerc
4. Perez
5. Hamilton
6. Sainz
7. Russell
8. Piastri
9. Lawson
10. Gasly

PP: Verstappen
FL: Verstappen
First Retirement: Zhou
ROTR: Aston Martin
IIDOTR: Lawson
DBTMOTR: Tsunoda
LP: Sargeant
FtP: Bottas

Have to acknowledge Sainz & Norris for co-operating better than most team-mates do and holding off Merc, even though it goes against my general views on IIDOTR. Lawson and Gasly are other options. Since I imagine that Norris and Sainz will be getting a lot of nominations, I would agree with hav...

I'm going for Alonso - by far his poorest weekend in an Aston Martin on a circuit I fancied him to go well. Also his failure to score means only 2 have an unbroken points streak this year (Verstappen and Hamilton). Russell was just going all out for a win on a rare Red Bull off day, and Red Bull th...

Well, a lot of people have been saying for much of the season what a great year we'd be having if only Red Bull weren't there. Let’s hope tomorrow now lives up to that! (Albeit you still wouldn't bet against Max coming through to win… would you…?) That said, it does feel as if Tsunoda was getting p...

1. Verstappen
2. Norris
3. Alonso
4. Leclerc
5. Perez
6. Hamilton
7. Sainz
8. Russell
9. Ocon
10. Stroll

PP: Verstappen
FL: Verstappen
First Retirement: Zhou
ROTR: Alpha Tauri
IIDOTR: Norris
DBTMOTR: Piastri
LP: Sargeant
FtP: Hulkenberg

Londoner wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 14:39 1. Carlos Sainz Jr. An unexpected pole and a hard-earned podium, can't really ask more from the weekend.

Just wondering though - would some of those moves have been considered differently if it wasn't an intra-team battle between the Ferrari's at Monza?

Five second time penalties - penalising drivers, especially world champions, is terrible for franchise value. Best to give penalties that have no consequences and can easily be nullified. Whilst I have seen quite a few posters complain about this, it seems the complaints are mostly targeted towards...

Broken floor. He’s still plenty fast I think that maybe the question is asking about other areas of Leclerc's performance. It's not just purely "is Leclerc fast", but about how consistently he can maintain that performance and how well he copes with changeable conditions. In the past, his...

1. Verstappen
2. Perez
3. Sainz
4. Hamilton
5. Alonso
6. Leclerc
7. Norris
8. Piastri
9. Russell
10. Albon

PP: Verstappen
FL: Verstappen
First Retirement: Bottas
ROTR: Alfa Romeo
IIDOTR: Alonso
DBTMOTR: Sargeant
LP: Zhou
FtP: Piastri

Can anyone with a good memory recall when Leclerc was the new big thing? It hasn't worked out has it. Broken floor. He’s still plenty fast I think that maybe the question is asking about other areas of Leclerc's performance. It's not just purely "is Leclerc fast", but about how consistent...

I might go for one thing that is outside of the usual remit, which is the celebrations by Red Bull's mechanics. Before the race, the circuit owners apparently went to quite a bit of effort to tell fans that flares had been banned from the circuit, with Imre van Leeuwen, the director of the race, put...

Having occasionally dabbled in this thread, I was wondering if somebody can make any sense of what exactly is going on with Alex Palou and the mess that is his contract status? We had the initial lawsuit for Palou to stay at Ganassi, and now we've had Palou bail out of his deal with McLaren to stay ...

Best wishes to Ricciardo on a speedy recovery. Given that he's almost certainly going to miss more than one race, does this put paid to his chances of grabbing the Red Bull seat? I felt like it was unlikely to begin with, but this certainly doesn't help. Could this be a decent opportunity for Lawso...

Speaking of replacement drivers, it has been confirmed that Ricciardo is now out of the Dutch GP after fracturing a bone in his hand in his FP2 crash, with Liam Lawson being called up as his replacement. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ricc ... /10511470/

I would say it's the "let's be honest, Max will win by miles" race, but it seems you can copy and paste that for pretty much every race this season now. Maybe it should instead be the "all hell will break loose if Max doesn't win" GP... 1. Verstappen 2. Alonso 3. Hamilton 4. Pere...

So here's a ponderance... With Robert Shwartzmann being reserve driver at Ferrari- supposing something happened to Leclerc or Sainz at a race weekend in say Qatar or Bahrain or Saudi Arabia,so he stepped up to take their race drive. If he was to get the car into the top 3 what flag would they fly a...

Anyway, that post however very much highlights the reason why moral discussions about the countries hosting F1 among fans are a joke. F1 fans use moral values mostly as an argument against tracks they don't like. Fair comment. I object strongly to the political leanings of Orban's Hungary and I don...

Wasn't his dad like a proper oligarch? I remember claims that both Uralaki and old man Mazepin himself were the target of sanctions. If that's true, I don't see how you can claim the kid has no involvement. Yes; both Nikita and his father Dmitry were placed on the EU sanctions list early in the res...

Did Haas specifically say that he would not be able to race because of his nationality? The Russian invasion took place in February 2022 and I'm certain he was replaced before then.I would have thought it would've been fairly straightforward for Haas to assert that his services were not being kept ...

Perez has another rival for that Red Bull seat it seems /s https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/1001032/nikita-mazepin-f1-return-eu-court-ruling-banned/ It would be great if anyone here is a lawyer and can translate the explanatory word-salad in the story. The greater concern is that Mazepin may now b...

I agree that I don't think Red Bull will win every race, but one wonders how far they'll go this season. I think it's highly likely they'll pass Ferrari's old mark, they'll be pulling out all the stops at the Netherlands and they've got the fastest top speed for Monza. The races are still exciting,...

Renault/Alpine have only ever won the Constructors title twice and that was with Alonso driving in 2005/6. He walked out at the end of last year when he realised he was wasting his time. The constant lack of focus and changes of management, strategy and purpose (as directed by corporate Renault) is...

Bold prediction... Andretti to buy Enstone I suspect that, with the recent injection of investor capital, Alpine might be content to hold on for now. It's not that far fetched though - Andretti does reportedly have a contract in place for Renault's power unit, which will have opened up connections ...

1- Yuki Tsunoda Kicked Dale's behind and did tons of overtakes- deserved more than 1 point. (ffs Max won driver of the day- Should have been Yuki) Probably not that surprising if Max probably also picked up a lot of votes for being half Belgian - whilst Norris and Stroll might also be half Belgian,...

1- Carlos Sainz and Ferrari While he got the punishment he clearly deserved the fact was that he took Pisatri out by leaving him no room - literally. However, I would add Ferrari onto this when they could see Sainz tumbling down the order and left him out (maybe it was extra punishment). Anyway aft...

This shake-up at Alpine is seismic. Szafnauer, Permane and Fry all out on the tail of Rossi. Stroll over at Aston Martin seems to understand that building a championship winning team takes time, patience and lots of money. Renault seem to have forgotten that. I wonder if this all started after the ...

The "are we even trying to pretend that Max won't win by miles" GP? S1: Verstappen S2: Perez S3: Norris S4: Hamilton S5: Piastri S6: Russell S7: Leclerc S8: Sainz 1. Verstappen 2. Perez 3. Norris 4. Hamilton 5. Piastri 6. Leclerc 7. Russell 8. Sainz 9. Alonso 10. Stroll PP: Verstappen FL: ...

And Australia is one of the cheapest, yet offer an extra day on top... The reason why the Australian Grand Prix ticket prices are so low is because the state of Victoria are subsidising the event very heavily, which means the tickets are sold at a quite substantial loss. Whilst I can't find the fig...

Just to ponder... if George hadn't won Brazil last year, Red Bull would have had 22 consecutive wins... Don't tempt fate. I would say "that's the last thing we need", but if Red Bull gets a clean sweep of wins that even the McLaren MP4/4 couldn't manage (merci, Jean-Louis), that might sna...

This season is turning into a real kicker for Alpine, isn't it? A second double-DNF in a row, this one cause by their cars hitting one another - albeit the incident wasn't entirely their drivers' fault. The season began with the team their star driver had left them for taking all the plaudits, and ...

In some ways, there is an argument for the entire race deserving the award - the pre-race excitement from Zhou's high starting position evaporated before they even reached the first corner, where it instead turned into a farce, Verstappen comfortably drove off into the distance, Aston Martin have fa...

I did not expect a Mercedes pole in Hungary for the second year in a row! There are a few surprises up and down the field there - for a start, as you say, I doubt many were expecting anything other than another comfortable pole for Verstappen (and Norris has also managed to get surprisingly close t...

1. Verstappen
2. Norris
3. Leclerc
4. Alonso
5. Hamilton
6. Perez
7. Piastri
8. Russell
9. Sainz
10. Gasly

PP: Verstappen
FL: Verstappen
First Retirement: Bottas
ROTR: Stroll
IIDOTR: None
DBTMOTR: Stroll
LP: Sargeant

The First GP without Nyck. Because he's goneskies and replaced by a non-rookie, the rookie point is goneskies. I'm open to suggestions for anything else. I was thinking first to pit going forwards but it's up for debate. There are still two rookies to choose between, Pastrami and Police Sargeant Lo...

I think the question really should be "will there be a seat there at all next year?" We know that AT is gone as of 2024, while Marko is getting on in years and there were multiple comments made following Mateschietz's death last year that he would be gone before long. If my theory is corr...

Do Max and Lando have similar driving styles/preferences in regards the instability of the rear end? If so, it doesn't bode will for Danny's chances in the current Red Bull dynamic. I believe that the issue with the McLaren cars was not so much about rear end instability, but more to do with change...

Media already have Ricciardo in the seat. Reckon RB's main motivation here is getting a look at Ricciardo, to see should he replace Perez. De Vries' lack of performance has just given them an easy excuse. Be interesting if he's beaten by Tsunoda. Lawson will come in next season. I guess so - I had ...

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