Grand Prix Rejects

Posted: **14 Feb 2018, 15:53**

What do the upgrades cost and is there a reason why me, as the Goodyear owner would not want to do every upgrade for them?

I for one wouldn't mind slowing down with the deadlines too.

Posted: **14 Feb 2018, 16:24**

CarloSpace wrote:What do the upgrades cost and is there a reason why me, as the Goodyear owner would not want to do every upgrade for them?

I for one wouldn't mind slowing down with the deadlines too.

The upgrade costs are summarised here:
Chassis upgrade costs
1 point = $1,000

Engine upgrade costs
1hp = $20,000
1 reliability point = $2,000

Tyre upgrade costs
1 point = $100

You might not want to do upgrades because you don’t have money, or you don’t feel like that area needs upgrading, and I’ve extended the deadline till the end of Friday, so it gives you more time to do them.

Posted: **14 Feb 2018, 16:40**

Here’s a summary of the development cycles for 1998:
Round 1 - Marlboro Grand Prix of Miami Presented by Toyota
Minor DC 1
Round 2 - Budweiser 500
Round 3 - Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach
Round 4 - Bosch Spark Plug Grand Prix Presented by Toyota
Major DC 1
Round 5 - Rio 400k
Round 6 - Motorola 300
MiDC 2
Round 7 - Miller Lite 200
Round 8 - ITT Automotive Detroit Grand Prix
MaDC 2
Round 9 - Budweiser/G. I. Joe's 200 Presented by Texaco/Havoline
MiDC3
Round 10 - Medic Drug Grand Prix of Cleveland Presented by Star Bank
Round 11 - Molson Indy
Round 12 - U.S. 500 Presented by Toyota
MaDC 3
Round 13 - Miller Lite 200
Round 14 - The Chicago Tribune Presents Texaco/Havoline 200
MiDC 4
Round 15 - Molson Indy Vancouver
Round 16 - Honda Grand Prix of Monterey Featuring the Texaco/Havoline 300
Round 17 - Texaco Grand Prix of Houston
Final DC
Round 18 - Honda Indy Carnival Australia
Round 19 - Marlboro 500 presented by Toyota
Post-Season DC

Minor DC means upgrades no larger than 100 points, or 10hp. Major DC means upgrades no bigger than 500 points, or 50hp.
Final DC means a user-defined range between 50-200 points, or 5-20hp.

Posted: **14 Feb 2018, 21:09**

Just one more question - where are tyre manufacturer budgets? I have no idea how much money Goodyear has :roll:

Posted: **14 Feb 2018, 21:13**

CarloSpace wrote:Just one more question - where are tyre manufacturer budgets? I have no idea how much money Goodyear has

Goodyear, and all suppliers technically has an infinite budget; the upgrades are bought by the teams, who if they don't have money can choose to not buy them.

Posted: **14 Feb 2018, 22:03**

Here's a form that I would appreciate if you could fill it out: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScGldQjq-lXwkDS5kfsuRviAqZEB368Th-yQ2awPYbckcjhsg/viewform?usp=sf_link
It's about the penalty system and you can fill it out if you're a team owner or not.

Posted: **14 Feb 2018, 23:24**

Payton/Coyne would like to upgrade their chassis:
H (handling) upgrade: Y
D (drag) upgrade: N
G (grip) upgrade: N
R (reliability) upgrade: Y
RGR upgrade: Y

Posted: **14 Feb 2018, 23:26**

Bandon23 wrote:Payton/Coyne would like to upgrade their chassis:
H (handling) upgrade: Y
D (drag) upgrade: N
G (grip) upgrade: N
R (reliability) upgrade: Y
RGR upgrade: Y

You're actually responsible for Ford's upgrades...

Posted: **15 Feb 2018, 01:39**

Tire: Firestone
QGrip upgrade: N
RGrip upgrade: N
RGR upgrade: N
D (durability) upgrade: Y

Posted: **15 Feb 2018, 13:47**

The Walker team would like a maximum upgrade on everything please.

Posted: **15 Feb 2018, 13:52**

Autosport wrote:Tracy receives penalty
After his spectacular crash with Gualter Salles at the Homestead-Miami Speedway, CART officials have announced that car number 3, Marlboro Team Penske driver Paul Tracy has received a reprimand and 4 penalty points on his license and the team will have to pay a $50,000 fine. The official statement read: ‘We have looked at the incident and judged Tracy to be completely at fault and for putting himself and other drivers at risk with his dangerous driving, so we have had to take action.’ CART has guaranteed however that Al Unser Jr’s 4th place finish and 12 points will stand no matter what happens.

Penske can appeal the penalty if they wish for $10,000.

Posted: **15 Feb 2018, 15:34**

Engine: Honda
QP (qualifying power) upgrade: N
RP: (race power) upgrade: Y
REL upgrade: Y

Posted: **15 Feb 2018, 19:24**

Gertrand Bachot wrote:
CarloSpace wrote:Just one more question - where are tyre manufacturer budgets? I have no idea how much money Goodyear has

Goodyear, and all suppliers technically has an infinite budget; the upgrades are bought by the teams, who if they don't have money can choose to not buy them.

So Forsythe pays for Goodyear upgrades or did I misunderstand?

Posted: **15 Feb 2018, 19:30**

PacWest will go or max upgrade on everything

Posted: **15 Feb 2018, 19:50**

CarloSpace wrote:
Gertrand Bachot wrote:
CarloSpace wrote:Just one more question - where are tyre manufacturer budgets? I have no idea how much money Goodyear has

Goodyear, and all suppliers technically has an infinite budget; the upgrades are bought by the teams, who if they don't have money can choose to not buy them.

So Forsythe pays for Goodyear upgrades or did I misunderstand?

Forsythe and all Goodyear teams will pay for the upgrades if they wish to.

Posted: **15 Feb 2018, 21:49**

Reynard upgrades:
H (handling) upgrade: Y
D (drag) upgrade: Y
G (grip) upgrade: N
R (reliability) upgrade: N
RGR upgrade: N

I'm still a little confused on how the upgrade system works (which I'm inclined to say is because you haven't done the best job explaining it), but I'll just go with this.

Posted: **16 Feb 2018, 02:35**

Gertrand Bachot wrote:
Autosport wrote:Tracy receives penalty
After his spectacular crash with Gualter Salles at the Homestead-Miami Speedway, CART officials have announced that car number 3, Marlboro Team Penske driver Paul Tracy has received a reprimand and 4 penalty points on his license and the team will have to pay a $50,000 fine. The official statement read: ‘We have looked at the incident and judged Tracy to be completely at fault and for putting himself and other drivers at risk with his dangerous driving, so we have had to take action.’ CART has guaranteed however that Al Unser Jr’s 4th place finish and 12 points will stand no matter what happens.

Penske can appeal the penalty if they wish for $10,000.

Penske refuses to pay a somewhat-unnessecary fine as we understand that the responsibilities occurred had been done by the driver itself and not the whole team. Also following the need to pay hefty damages, we shall be appealing the penalty in an effort to avoid paying more.

Posted: **16 Feb 2018, 10:37**

Penske appeal RNG

It has been decided that Penske won’t pay a fine, instead it will go on top of Tracy’s wage for 1999.

1-25 The penalty is withdrawn
26-50 The penalty is halved
51-75 Same as 26-50 + Salles gets the same penalty
76-100 The penalty stands unchanged
42

Tracy will get 2 license points and a $25,000 fine to go on top of his wage in 1999.

Posted: **16 Feb 2018, 16:18**

Gertrand Bachot wrote:Forsythe and all Goodyear teams will pay for the upgrades if they wish to.

I have no idea what that means. So who pays for Goodyear upgrades? If I fill out the form like below, who pays and how much? If Reynard upgrades the chassis does Forsythe have to pay something? I'm worried because we are fairly low on money at the moment and don't want to go into debt.

Tire:
QGrip upgrade: N
RGrip upgrade: N
RGR upgrade: Y
D (durability) upgrade: Y

Posted: **16 Feb 2018, 16:53**

CarloSpace wrote:
Gertrand Bachot wrote:Forsythe and all Goodyear teams will pay for the upgrades if they wish to.

I have no idea what that means. So who pays for Goodyear upgrades? If I fill out the form like below, who pays and how much? If Reynard upgrades the chassis does Forsythe have to pay something? I'm worried because we are fairly low on money at the moment and don't want to go into debt.

Tire:
QGrip upgrade: N
RGrip upgrade: N
RGR upgrade: Y
D (durability) upgrade: Y

Firstly I apologise for not explaining it properly so you’re stuck in this situation.

The way I’ve done it was by having each upgrade as part of a package that the teams can buy for a set amount of money, and if you don’t have enough money you don’t have to buy them. You can also get a loan from me for as much money as you need to help your finances back on track at a stable 25% interest rate.

Posted: **16 Feb 2018, 17:56**

Gertrand Bachot wrote:
Bandon23 wrote:Payton/Coyne would like to upgrade their chassis:
H (handling) upgrade: Y
D (drag) upgrade: N
G (grip) upgrade: N
R (reliability) upgrade: Y
RGR upgrade: Y

You're actually responsible for Ford's upgrades...

Well, I don't mind upgrading it, but if it's important for upgrades I may try again?

Posted: **16 Feb 2018, 18:37**

Bandon23 wrote:
Gertrand Bachot wrote:
Bandon23 wrote:Payton/Coyne would like to upgrade their chassis:
H (handling) upgrade: Y
D (drag) upgrade: N
G (grip) upgrade: N
R (reliability) upgrade: Y
RGR upgrade: Y

You're actually responsible for Ford's upgrades...

Well, I don't mind upgrading it, but if it's important for upgrades I may try again?

Well you use a Swift chassis, and it’s thor97’s responsibility to upgrade that, so if you want the chassis upgrading you’ll need to PM him about it.

Posted: **16 Feb 2018, 19:21**

By the way, I seem to have missed something. Where is the list of how much each of the upgrades cost?

Posted: **16 Feb 2018, 20:59**

dr-baker wrote:By the way, I seem to have missed something. Where is the list of how much each of the upgrades cost?

Right here: Chassis upgrade costs
1 point = $1,000

Engine upgrade costs
1hp = $20,000
1 reliability point = $2,000

Tyre upgrade costs
1 point = $100

Posted: **17 Feb 2018, 04:41**

Chassis:Swift
H (handling) upgrade: Y
D (drag) upgrade: Y
G (grip) upgrade: Y
R (reliability) upgrade: Y
RGR upgrade: Y

Posted: **17 Feb 2018, 12:31**

So the upgrades are done! Sorry for not clearly explaining everything, I'll try better next time.
The upgrade packages are:
Reynard - Handling +114, Drag -183 - $148,500
Honda - Race Power +19, Reliability +121 - $98,500
Swift - Handling -7, Drag -78, Grip +137, Reliability +15, Random Grip Range +130 - $183,500
Penske - Handling +93, Grip +24, Reliability +43 - $80,000
Eagle - Handling +147, Drag -194, Grip +148 - $244,500
Firestone - Durability +196 - $98,000
Goodyear - Random Grip Range -68, Durability -26 - $47,000
Ford - Qualifying Power +10, Reliability -59 - $49,500

So can all team owners report back to me As Soon As Possible, as I want to run Round 2 at Motegi later today, about whether or not you want to purchase the upgrades in this format:

Code: Select all

Team:
User:
Chassis Upgrade: Y/N
Engine Upgrade: Y/N
Tyre Upgrade: Y/N

If you don't make it in time for Motegi I will allow you to buy the upgrades for the race at Long Beach but please treat this as an exception rather than a rule.

Posted: **17 Feb 2018, 16:17**

Team: Payton/Coyne Racing
User: Bandon23
Chassis Upgrade: N
Engine Upgrade: N
Tyre Upgrade: Y

Posted: **17 Feb 2018, 16:24**

Bandon23 wrote:Team: Payton/Coyne Racing
User: Bandon23
Chassis Upgrade: N
Engine Upgrade: N
Tyre Upgrade: Y

If you're quick enough I'll let you submit some upgrades for Ford engines.

Posted: **17 Feb 2018, 16:30**

Team: Forsythe
User: CarloSpave
Chassis Upgrade: N
Engine Upgrade: Y
Tyre Upgrade: Y

Posted: **17 Feb 2018, 23:05**

Team: (Not-quite-)All-American Racers
User: This Could Be You
Chassis Upgrade: Y
Engine Upgrade: Y
Tyre Upgrade: Y

Posted: **17 Feb 2018, 23:07**

Gertrand Bachot wrote:
Bandon23 wrote:Team: Payton/Coyne Racing
User: Bandon23
Chassis Upgrade: N
Engine Upgrade: N
Tyre Upgrade: Y

If you're quick enough I'll let you submit some upgrades for Ford engines.

Ok here it is:

Engine: Ford
QP (qualifying power) upgrade: Y
RP: (race power) upgrade: N
REL upgrade: Y

Posted: **17 Feb 2018, 23:13**

Gertrand Bachot wrote:
So can all team owners report back to me As Soon As Possible, as I want to run Round 2 at Motegi later today, about whether or not you want to purchase the upgrades in this format:
Code: Select all
Team:
User:
Chassis Upgrade: Y/N
Engine Upgrade: Y/N
Tyre Upgrade: Y/N
If you don't make it in time for Motegi I will allow you to buy the upgrades for the race at Long Beach but please treat this as an exception rather than a rule.

No idea if I am on time or not, but this is feeling rushed, and is unfair to those who are not on here multiple times a day.

Code: Select all

Team: walker
User: Dr-baker
Chassis Upgrade: Y
Engine Upgrade: Y
Tyre Upgrade: Y

Posted: **17 Feb 2018, 23:31**

Team: KOOL Green
User: Dexter249
Chassis Upgrade: Y
Engine Upgrade: Y
Tyre Upgrade: Y

Posted: **17 Feb 2018, 23:52**

Round 2 - Budweiser 500 - Twin Ring Motegi

Qualifying
1. Davey Hamilton - Hogan-Sw Ford - 24.937s
2. Al Unser Jr - Penske-PC Mercedes - 24.939s
3. Michael Andretti - Patrick-Sw Ford - 24.948s
4. Patrick Carpentier - Team Green-Sw Ford - 24.977s
5. J.J. Lehto - Team Green-Sw Ford - 24.977s
6. Paul Tracy - Penske-PC Mercedes - 24.979s
7. Gualter Salles - Davis-Sw Ford - 24.982s
8. Ádrián Fernández - Patrick-Sw Ford - 24.982s
9. Gil De Ferran - Walker-Ri Honda - 24.984s
10. P.J. Jones - Payton/Coyne-Sw Ford - 24.986s
11. Michel Jourdain Jr - Payton/Coyne-Sw Ford - 25.012s
12. Dario Franchitti - Newman-Haas-Ri Honda - 25.016s
13. Robby Gordon - Tasman-Ri Honda - 25.019s
14. Ricardo Zonta - Bettenhausen-Sw Mercedes - 25.019s
15. Juan Pablo Montoya - Newman-Haas-Ri Honda - 25.024s
16. Tony Stewart - Della Penna-Ri Ford - 25.090s
17. Bryan Herta - Forsythe-Ri Honda - 25.179s
18. Greg Moore - Forsythe-Ri Honda - 25.202s
19. Scott Goodyear - PacWest-Sw Ford - 25.203s
20. Eliseo Salazar - PacWest-Sw Ford - 25.205s
21. Helio Castroneves - Team A.A.R.-Eg Ford - 25.213s
22. Tony Kanaan - Team A.A.R.-Eg Ford - 25.218s
23. Max Papis - Arciero-Wells-Sw Ford - 25.245s
24. Hiro Matsushita - Arciero-Wells-Sw Ford - 25.247s
25. Alex Zanardi - Ganassi-Ri Honda - 25.254s
26. Bobby Rahal - Rahal-Ri Honda - 25.258s
DNQ. Jimmy Vasser - Ganassi-Ri Honda - 25.280s
DNQ. Kenny Brack - Rahal-Ri Honda - 25.284s

Race
1. Patrick Carpentier - Team Green-Sw Ford - 55:01.600s - 20
2. Paul Tracy - Penske-PC Mercedes - +8.548s - 16
3. Dario Franchitti - Newman-Haas-Ri Honda - +13.315s - 14
4. Robby Gordon - Tasman-Ri Honda - +15.018s - 12
5. Gualter Salles - Davis-Sw-Ford - +15.662s - 10
6. Gil De Ferran - Walker-Ri Honda - +20.942s - 8
7. Eliseo Salazar - PacWest-Sw Ford - +1 Lap - 6
8. Michel Jourdain Jr - Payton/Coyne-Sw Ford - +1 Lap - 5
9. Tony Kanaan - Team A.A.R.-Eg Ford - +2 Laps - 4
10. Bryan Herta - Forsythe-Ri Honda - +3 Laps - 3
11. Scott Goodyear - PacWest-Sw Ford - +4 Laps - 2
12. Max Papis - Arciero-Wells-Sw Ford - 5 Laps - 1
13. Helio Castroneves - Team A.A.R.-Eg Ford - Engine
14. Alex Zanardi - Ganassi-Ri Honda - Transmission
15. Michael Andretti - Patrick-Sw Ford - Oil Leak
16. P.J. Jones - Payton/Coyne-Sw Ford - Engine
17. Ricardo Zonta - Bettenhausen-Sw Mercedes - Accident
18. Juan Pablo Montoya - Newman-Haas-Ri Honda - DNF
19. Hiro Matsushita - Arciero-Wells-Sw Ford - Spun Off
20. Davey Hamilton - Hogan-Sw Ford - Engine - *1
21. J.J. Lehto - Team Green-Sw Ford - Engine
22. Ádrián Fernández - Patrick-Sw Ford - Transmission
23. Al Unser Jr - Penske-PC Mercedes - Transmission
24. Greg Moore - Forsythe-Ri Honda - Oil Leak
25. Tony Stewart - Della Penna-Ri Ford - Transmission
26. Bobby Rahal - Rahal-Ri Honda - Crash

DOTR - Davey Hamilton - Took pole, led the race brilliantly until heartbreak for him and Hogan
ROTR - Chip Ganassi Racing - The f**k happened to them?

Damages
Ricardo Zonta - Bettenhausen-Sw Mercedes - $60,000
Bobby Rahal - Rahal-Ri Honda - $920,000

Injuries
Bobby Rahal - Will miss the next race.

Posted: **18 Feb 2018, 00:08**

Team: Team Penske
User: Gonzalez
Chassis Upgrade: Y
Engine Upgrade: N
Tyre Upgrade: N

Posted: **18 Feb 2018, 01:06**

From Rejectful to race winner instantly, great job me, now we're broke.

Posted: **18 Feb 2018, 01:44**

Team: Chip Ganassi Racing
User: TheFlyingCaterham
Chassis Upgrade: Y
Engine Upgrade: N
Tyre Upgrade: N

Posted: **18 Feb 2018, 09:32**

Dexter249 wrote:From Rejectful to race winner instantly, great job me, now we're broke.

You’re not exactly broke...

Posted: **18 Feb 2018, 09:41**

Wait hang on - is ROBBY GORDON LEADING THE CHAMPIONSHIP FOR TASMAN!? Screw it, I'm going all in on this year.

Team: Tasman Motorsports
User: Salamander
Chassis Upgrade: Y
Engine Upgrade: Y
Tyre Upgrade: N

Also how the hell does Jimmy Vasser DNQ for Ganassi in 1998?

Posted: **18 Feb 2018, 11:22**

Team: Team Rahal
User: Reject_Dom
Chassis Upgrade: Y
Engine Upgrade: Y
Tyre Upgrade: Y

Team Rahal will repair the damaged car, and announce that Bobby Rahal's replacement for Long Beach will be Scott Pruett.

Team: Davis Racing
User: Reject_Dom (CT)
Chassis Upgrade: N
Engine Upgrade: Y
Tyre Upgrade: Y

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