Champion elimination alternative championship

IdeFan · Post by **IdeFan** » 16 Jul 2010, 19:10

1996 - Villeneuve
1997 - Frentzen
1998 - Coulthard
1999 - Irvine
2000 - Barrichello
2001 - R. Schumacher
2002 - Montoya
2003 - Raikkonen
2004 - Button
2005 - Alonso
2006 - Fisichella
2007 - Hamilton
2008 - Massa
2009 - Vettel

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 19 Jul 2010, 05:38

1996
Jacques Villeneuve 114 (11 wins)
Rubens Barrichello 40 (4 2nd, 3 3rd)
Olivier Panis 39 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
David Coulthard 39 (5 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 26 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 32 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Mika Salo 28 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 25 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Pedro Diniz 17 (3 3rd)
Ukyo Katayama 10 (1 3rd)
Ricardo Rosset 7 (1 4th)
Pedro Lamy 6 (1 4th)
Jos Verstappen 6 (1 4th)
Giancarlo Fisichella 3 (1 4th)
Luca Badoer 2 (1 5th)
Giovanni Lavaggi 1 (1 6th)

2nd, 3rd and 4th just barely beat Villeneuve together. Diniz getting nice amount of points, Rosset ahead of his team-mate, and Lavaggi scoring!

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 19 Jul 2010, 12:25

1997
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 68 (3 wins, 4 2nd, 3 3rd)
David Coulthard 64 (4 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 54 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 4 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 53 (2 wins, 4 2nd)
Olivier Panis 39 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Ralf Schumacher 38 (1 win, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 25 (1 win, 1 3rd) *5 for Minardi, 20 for Prost*
Shinji Nakano 19 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Pedro Diniz 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Mika Salo 11 (1 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 10 (1 win)
Alexander Wurz 10 (1 win)
Nicola Larini 9 (1 3rd)
Gianni Morbidelli 9 (1 4th)
Jan Magnussen 5 (2 5th)
Norberto Fontana 4 (1 4th)
Jos Verstappen 4 (2 5th)
Ukyo Katayama 4 (1 5th)
Tarso Marques 1 (1 6th)

Close season. At Hungaroring it seemed even closer, as five drivers was within four points and Frentzen wasn't along those, due to his many retirements early in the season.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 19 Jul 2010, 12:46

Bleu wrote:Shinji Nakano 19 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)

Hell to the yes.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 20 Jul 2010, 05:58

1998
David Coulthard 97 (8 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 92 (5 wins, 6 2nd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 56 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 6 3rd)
Alexander Wurz 49 (5 2nd, 2 3rd)
Ralf Schumacher 39 (1 win, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 15 (1 3rd)
Pedro Diniz 12 (1 2nd)
Jarno Trulli 12 (1 3rd)
Olivier Panis 10 (1 4th)
Shinji Nakano 8 (3 5th)
Mika Salo 6 (1 3rd)
Toranosuke Takagi 5 (1 4th)
Jan Magnussen 5 (2 5th)
Esteban Tuero 4 (1 4th)
Jos Verstappen 1 (1 6th)

Quite a tight battle between 2nd drivers of McLaren and Ferrari. DNF in final race for Coulthard would have given title to Irvine. One driver failed to score.

watka · Post by **watka** » 20 Jul 2010, 20:14

Bleu wrote:1998
David Coulthard 97 (8 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 92 (5 wins, 6 2nd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 56 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 6 3rd)
Alexander Wurz 49 (5 2nd, 2 3rd)
Ralf Schumacher 39 (1 win, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 15 (1 3rd)
Pedro Diniz 12 (1 2nd)
Jarno Trulli 12 (1 3rd)
Olivier Panis 10 (1 4th)
Shinji Nakano 8 (3 5th)
Mika Salo 6 (1 3rd)
Toranosuke Takagi 5 (1 4th)
Jan Magnussen 5 (2 5th)
Esteban Tuero 4 (1 4th)
Jos Verstappen 1 (1 6th)

Quite a tight battle between 2nd drivers of McLaren and Ferrari. DNF in final race for Coulthard would have given title to Irvine. One driver failed to score.

Presumably that driver was Ricardo Rosset?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 21 Jul 2010, 00:15

Bleu wrote:Esteban Tuero 4 (1 4th)

Tuero unrejectified himself?!

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 21 Jul 2010, 05:25

1999
Eddie Irvine 121 (10 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ralf Schumacher 70 (2 wins, 6 2nd, 3 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 54 (2 wins, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 33 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 27 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Alexander Wurz 27 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Mika Salo 25 (2 2nd, 2 3rd) *7 for BAR, 18 for Ferrari*
Pedro Diniz 13 (2 3rd)
OIivier Panis 13 (1 3rd)
Marc Gene 12 (2 4th)
Alessandro Zanardi 10 (1 4th)
Luca Badoer 3 (1 4th)
Toranosuke Takagi 3 (1 5th)
Ricardo Zonta 3 (3 6th)
Pedro de la Rosa 2 (1 5th)

Easy title for Eddie. More wins than all others together and only one race where he failed to score.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 21 Jul 2010, 10:56

2000
Rubens Barrichello 130 (13 wins)
Ralf Schumacher 60 (3 wins, 4 2nd, 1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 44 (1 win, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jenson Button 40 (5 2nd)
Mika Salo 40 (1 2nd, 6 3rd)
Ricardo Zonta 24 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 23 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Alexander Wurz 23 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Pedro Diniz 19 (2 3rd)
Jos Verstappen 14 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Pedro de la Rosa 9 (1 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 6 (2 4th)
Marc Gene 5 (1 4th)
Gaston Mazzacane 2 (1 5th)

Rubens had four DNFs, so he won every race he finished. Sauber drivers' points tallies are quite impressive, while Trulli and Arrows drivers are quite low. Reliability of course.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 21 Jul 2010, 16:28

IdeFan wrote:1996 - Villeneuve
1997 - Frentzen
1998 - Coulthard
1999 - Irvine
2000 - Barrichello
2001 - R. Schumacher
2002 - Montoya
2003 - Raikkonen
2004 - Button
2005 - Alonso
2006 - Fisichella
2007 - Hamilton
2008 - Massa
2009 - Vettel

All those were right so far. Hmmm... These next few years might become boring.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 22 Jul 2010, 07:34

2001
Ralf Schumacher 84 (6 wins, 4 2nd)
Juan Pablo Montoya 54 (5 wins, 1 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 53 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 4 3rd)
Kimi Räikkönen 42 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Jarno Trulli 39 (1 win, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Olivier Panis 34 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jos Verstappen 28 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 27 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jenson Button 24 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Pedro de la Rosa 18 (3 3rd)
Luciano Burti 14 (2 4th) *7 for Jaguar, 7 for Prost*
Enrique Bernoldi 10 (1 3rd)
Tarso Marques 4 (1 5th)
Ricardo Zonta 3 (1 4th)
Fernando Alonso 1 (1 6th)
Gaston Mazzacane 1 (1 6th)

Montoya had too much retirements to challenge his team-mate.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 22 Jul 2010, 07:45

Bleu wrote:2001
Juan Pabko Montoya 54 (5 wins, 1 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 53 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 4 3rd)

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 22 Jul 2010, 08:32

Bleu wrote:2000

Gaston Mazzacane 2 (1 5th)

Bleu wrote:2001
Gaston Mazzacane 1 (1 6th)

Mazzacane has done enough in this alternate reality to unrejectify himself!

IdeFan · Post by **IdeFan** » 22 Jul 2010, 09:49

Waris wrote:
IdeFan wrote:1996 - Villeneuve
1997 - Frentzen
1998 - Coulthard
1999 - Irvine
2000 - Barrichello
2001 - R. Schumacher
2002 - Montoya
2003 - Raikkonen
2004 - Button
2005 - Alonso
2006 - Fisichella
2007 - Hamilton
2008 - Massa
2009 - Vettel

All those were right so far. Hmmm... These next few years might become boring.

When Fisichella and Massa are the title protagonists in 2006, you know the sport is a much poorer place

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Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 22 Jul 2010, 12:34

2002
Juan Pablo Montoya 108 (9 wins, 3 2nd)
Kimi Räikkönen 56 (5 wins, 1 2nd)
Jenson Button 48 (1 win, 4 2nd, 2 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 43 (2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 39 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 34 (4 2nd, 1 3rd)
Felipe Massa 27 (5 3rd)
Mika Salo 22 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Olivier Panis 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Takuma Sato 15 (1 3rd)
Allan McNish 11 (1 3rd, 1 4th)
Mark Webber 11 (1 3rd, 2 5th)
Pedro de la Rosa 9 (2 4th)
Alex Yoong 2 (1 5th)
Enrique Bernoldi 1 (1 6th)

Only four drivers win races, and Montoya took advantage of 11 retirements for Kimi. Although he was mostly better in races, so he would have probably won the title anyway.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 23 Jul 2010, 05:34

2003
Point system changed, now top 8 is awarded points.

Kimi Räikkönen 124 (10 wins, 3 2nd)
Fernando Alonso 89 (4 wins, 4 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 69 (1 win, 3 2nd, 3 3rd)
Mark Webber 55 (2 2nd, 5 3rd)
Jenson Button 54 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Cristiano da Matta 50 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 42 (1 3rd)
Olivier Panis 29 (2 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 27 (1 win)
Antonio Pizzonia 19 (1 4th)
Ralph Firman 18 (1 4th)
Jos Verstappen 15 (2 5th)
Justin Wilson 10 (1 5th) *6 for Minardi, 4 for Jaguar*
Marc Gene 8 (1 2nd)
Takuma Sato 5 (1 4th)
Nicolas Kiesa 3 (3 8th)
HWNSNBM 2 (1 7th)

Räikkönen is quite dominant even with the point system being changed. da Matta's points tally really impresses me. The best thing however is that HWNSNBM scores points!

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 23 Jul 2010, 10:09

dr-baker wrote:
Bleu wrote:2000

Gaston Mazzacane 2 (1 5th)

Bleu wrote:2001
Gaston Mazzacane 1 (1 6th)

Mazzacane has done enough in this alternate reality to unrejectify himself!

And Tarso Marques as well.

In fact Marques outscored Alonso 4-1!

watka · Post by **watka** » 23 Jul 2010, 20:53

Ferrim wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Bleu wrote:2000

Gaston Mazzacane 2 (1 5th)

Bleu wrote:2001
Gaston Mazzacane 1 (1 6th)

Mazzacane has done enough in this alternate reality to unrejectify himself!

And Tarso Marques as well.

In fact Marques outscored Alonso 4-1!

I always thought that Alonso was nothing special in his season with Minardi.

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 23 Jul 2010, 23:53

watka wrote:
Ferrim wrote:And Tarso Marques as well.

In fact Marques outscored Alonso 4-1!

I always thought that Alonso was nothing special in his season with Minardi.

You weren't looking closely enough, then.

He absolutely destroyed Marques on pace since the beginning of the season and put the Minardi in places where it didn't belong. He qualified off the back row 11 out of 17 times and off the last two rows in 7 of those occasions, the most for a Minardi driver since Trulli in 1997. And that with an underdevelopped car (even by Minardi's standards), as they were on the verge of going bankprupt and had to compete with basically the 2000 car, which was already outdated.

He just really lacked a good race result (ie, scoring points), but the signs were there.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 26 Jul 2010, 05:40

2004
Jenson Button 134 (10 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Fernando Alonso 99 (4 wins, 4 2nd, 3 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 87 (2 wins, 5 2nd, 2 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 79 (3 2nd)
Takuma Sato 70 (1 win, 3 2nd, 4 3rd)
Felipe Massa 51 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Mark Webber 39 (2 3rd)
Christian Klien 27 (1 3rd)
Olivier Panis 26 (1 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 17 (1 4th)
Antonio Pizzonia 16 (1 3rd)
Cristiano da Matta 15 (1 4th)
HWNSNBM 10 (1 4th)
Ricardo Zonta 8 (2 6th)
Timo Glock 7 (1 3rd)
Marc Gene 6 (1 5th)

It was close fight between Button and Trulli until France. At that point, Button had 76 and Trulli 72 points. In the remaining Renault races, Trulli scored eight points, then went to score seven for Toyota in the last two. The big news however is that HWNSNBM gets unrejectified with his 4th place at Indianapolis. He also had one sixth and one seventh.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 26 Jul 2010, 12:46

2005
Fernando Alonso 155 (13 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 93 (2 wins, 6 2nd, 3 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 83 (1 win, 4 2nd, 4 3rd)
Mark Webber 70 (3 2nd, 3 3rd)
Felipe Massa 65 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Christian Klien 53 (3 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 50 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Tiago Monteiro 42 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Takuma Sato 29 (3 4th)
Narain Karthikeyan 24 (1 2nd)
Christijan Albers 19 (1 3rd)
Alexander Wurz 8 (1 2nd)
Patrick Friesacher 7 (1 4th)
Antonio Pizzonia 7 (1 4th)
Vitantonio Liuzzi 7 (1 5th)
Robert Doornbos 7 (1 6th)
Pedro de la Rosa 6 (1 3rd)

Champion is champion, no question about it. Monteiro racks up huge points, and Sato fails to score a podium!

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 26 Jul 2010, 18:54

I'm a newbie to this site but I LOVE this thread!

I'm really fascinated to see who wins 2006 as I reckon it's really close between Fisichella and Massa. I think Fisi had a lot of 3rds and 4ths that year which will be wins and 2nds without Alonso and Schumi.

If Massa doesn't win 2006 then it could be really close between him and Hamilton for 2007 (due to their two teams' duopoly), and whichever of those doesn't win that one will win 2008.

2009 could be really close between the two Red Bulls (with both Brawn drivers out) as I think Vettel had more wins but more DNF's than Webber, then whichever of them is left for 2010 will obviously walk this year with no teammate or Mclaren drivers or Ferrari drivers......

watka · Post by **watka** » 26 Jul 2010, 20:09

Bleu wrote:2004
Jenson Button 134 (10 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Fernando Alonso 99 (4 wins, 4 2nd, 3 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 87 (2 wins, 5 2nd, 2 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 79 (3 2nd)
Takuma Sato 70 (1 win, 3 2nd, 4 3rd)
Felipe Massa 51 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Mark Webber 39 (2 3rd)
Christian Klien 27 (1 3rd)
Olivier Panis 26 (1 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 17 (1 4th)
Antonio Pizzonia 16 (1 3rd)
Cristiano da Matta 15 (1 4th)
HWNSNBM 10 (1 4th)
Ricardo Zonta 8 (2 6th)
Timo Glock 7 (1 3rd)
Marc Gene 6 (1 5th)

It was close fight between Button and Trulli until France. At that point, Button had 76 and Trulli 72 points. In the remaining Renault races, Trulli scored eight points, then went to score seven for Toyota in the last two. The big news however is that HWNSNBM gets unrejectified with his 4th place at Indianapolis. He also had one sixth and one seventh.

And the bigger news is that Sato gets a win!

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 27 Jul 2010, 00:24

I so want to see constructors' championships for these, especially 2005... XD

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 27 Jul 2010, 01:53

Bleu wrote:Tiago Monteiro 42 (1 win, 1 3rd)

WHAT THE &%$!

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 27 Jul 2010, 02:23

kostas22 wrote:
Bleu wrote:Tiago Monteiro 42 (1 win, 1 3rd)

WHAT THE &%$!

Monteiro only retired once in 2005 IIRC. Plus, there was the whole Indy debacle that year which gifted him the win, now that Schumacher and Barrichello are eliminated.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 27 Jul 2010, 05:39

2006
Giancarlo Fisichella 136 (6 wins, 8 2nd, 2 3rd)
Felipe Massa 133 (8 wins, 4 2nd, 2 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 75 (1 win, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 57 (6 3rd)
Pedro de la Rosa 40 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nico Rosberg 38 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Vitantonio Liuzzi 38 (3 4th)
Mark Webber 37 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Scott Speed 35 (1 3rd)
Christian Klien 26 (1 3rd)
Robert Kubica 22 (1 win)
Christijan Albers 19 (1 4th)
Tiago Monteiro 13 (1 4th)
Takuma Sato 11 (2 5th)
Robert Doornbos 5 (2 7th)
Yuji Ide 3 (1 6th)
Franck Montagny 1 (1 8th)

Tight battle between two drivers in top two teams. Rosberg beats Webber and Ide scores points!

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 27 Jul 2010, 11:34

I knew 2006 would be close between Fisi and Massa!

15 points for Super Augri is brilliant! (nothing for Sakon Yamamoto though - he should have been there in the early part of the year which would have been missing an extra driver infront - Montoya and Villeneuve before they left the sport).

Also really impressed with Liuzzi and Speed's totals!

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 27 Jul 2010, 12:50

2007
Lewis Hamilton 134 (9 wins, 4 2nd, 1 3rd)
Felipe Massa 121 (8 wins, 2 2nd, 4 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 90 (6 2nd, 2 3rd)
Robert Kubica 63 (1 2nd, 6 3rd)
Heikki Kovalainen 62 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nico Rosberg 50 (1 2nd)
Mark Webber 34 (1 2nd)
Alexander Wurz 31 (2 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 28 (2 4th)
Takuma Sato 12 (1 5th)
Sebastian Vettel 11 (1 2nd for STR, 1 6th for BMW)
Vitantonio Liuzzi 9 (1 3rd)
Anthony Davidson 6 (1 7th)
Adrian Sutil 5 (1 5th)
Scott Speed 3 (1 6th)
Sakon Yamamoto 2 (1 7th)
Kazuki Nakajima 2 (1 7th)

Two drivers take all the wins. I think this underlines how dreadful Toyota's season was, Trulli down to 9th, Ralf is of course eliminated already. Yamamoto takes some points as well, Super Aguri gets 18 in total.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 27 Jul 2010, 16:42

No real surprises there for 2007. It seems staggering how worse the Toro Rosso drivers fared compared to 06 mind you, even after Vettel replaced Speed!

watka · Post by **watka** » 27 Jul 2010, 21:14

Bleu wrote:2006
Giancarlo Fisichella 136 (6 wins, 8 2nd, 2 3rd)
Felipe Massa 133 (8 wins, 4 2nd, 2 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 75 (1 win, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 57 (6 3rd)
Pedro de la Rosa 40 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nico Rosberg 38 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Vitantonio Liuzzi 38 (3 4th)
Mark Webber 37 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Scott Speed 35 (1 3rd)
Christian Klien 26 (1 3rd)
Robert Kubica 22 (1 win)
Christijan Albers 19 (1 4th)
Tiago Monteiro 13 (1 4th)
Takuma Sato 11 (2 5th)
Robert Doornbos 5 (2 7th)
Yuji Ide 3 (1 6th)
Franck Montagny 1 (1 8th)

Tight battle between two drivers in top two teams. Rosberg beats Webber and Ide scores points!

I think this means that Kubica won on his debut!

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 27 Jul 2010, 23:21

watka wrote:
Bleu wrote:2006
Giancarlo Fisichella 136 (6 wins, 8 2nd, 2 3rd)
Felipe Massa 133 (8 wins, 4 2nd, 2 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 75 (1 win, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 57 (6 3rd)
Pedro de la Rosa 40 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nico Rosberg 38 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Vitantonio Liuzzi 38 (3 4th)
Mark Webber 37 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Scott Speed 35 (1 3rd)
Christian Klien 26 (1 3rd)
Robert Kubica 22 (1 win)
Christijan Albers 19 (1 4th)
Tiago Monteiro 13 (1 4th)
Takuma Sato 11 (2 5th)
Robert Doornbos 5 (2 7th)
Yuji Ide 3 (1 6th)
Franck Montagny 1 (1 8th)

Tight battle between two drivers in top two teams. Rosberg beats Webber and Ide scores points!

I think this means that Kubica won on his debut!

Nah, it would be the Italian GP, his 3rd race. Kubica was disqualified on his debut.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 28 Jul 2010, 07:09

2008
Felipe Massa 109 (8 wins, 2 2nd)
Robert Kubica 105 (4 wins, 4 2nd, 2 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 87 (2 wins, 3 2nd, 3 3rd)
Heikki Kovalainen 78 (1 win, 3 2nd, 3 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 58 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Sebastian Vettel 54 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Timo Glock 48 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Mark Webber 46 (2 3rd)
Nelsinho Piquet 36 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nico Rosberg 34 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Kazuki Nakajima 26 (3 4th)
Sebastien Bourdais 13 (2 5th)
Anthony Davidson 1 (1 8th)
Takuma Sato 1 (1 8th)

Close battle for the title. In fact, Kubica was leading by five points while heading to Brazil, so he needed 3rd place. But he only managed to get 8th, so Massa took the title. Sutil failed to score, while both Super Aguri guys did although they had only four races!

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 28 Jul 2010, 11:30

A win for Nelson Piquet Jr. Well I never!

He also wouldn't have had to crash in Singapore without Alonso there. ;-)

That turned out to be a lot closer between Massa and Kubica than I imagined. I thought Massa would have walked it!

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 28 Jul 2010, 12:46

2009
Sebastian Vettel 104 (6 wins, 4 2nd, 2 3rd)
Mark Webber 98,5 (6 wins, 3 2nd)
Nico Rosberg 74 (3 2nd, 4 3rd)
Timo Glock 65 (1 win, 2 2nd*, 1 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 57 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd*)
Nick Heidfeld 54 (1 win*, 1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Heikki Kovalainen 45 (1 win, 3 3rd)
Robert Kubica 41 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Adrian Sutil 22 (1 win)
Kazuki Nakajima 21 (1 4th)
Sebastien Buemi 20 (2 4th)
Sebastien Bourdais 15,5 (1 3rd)
Nelsinho Piquet 10,5 (1 5th)
Kamui Kobayashi 9 (1 4th)
Vitantonio Liuzzi 5 (1 6th)
Romain Grosjean 2 (2 8th)

So, a tight battle between two Red Bull drivers. Webber suffers horrible three races in a row and that turns the table around. BMW fails to win complete race, Rosberg doesn't get win either even though he finishes on the podium seven times.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 28 Jul 2010, 12:49

As a special mention, current season!

Mark Webber 217 (7 wins, 1 2nd)
Nico Rosberg 186 (2 wins, 5 2nd, 2 3rd)
Robert Kubica 176 (2 wins, 3 2nd, 4 3rd)
Adrian Sutil 113 (2 2nd)
Jaime Alguersuari 76 (1 4th)
Vitantonio Liuzzi 70 (2 3rd)
Kamui Kobayashi 58 (2 3rd)
Vitaly Petrov 52 (1 3rd)
Sebastien Buemi 47 (2 4th)
Nico Hülkenberg 42 (1 5th)
Pedro de la Rosa 30 (3 6th)
Heikki Kovalainen 19 (2 7th)
Karun Chandhok 9 (1 8th)
Lucas di Grassi 5 (1 8th)
Jarno Trulli 5 (1 9th)
Bruno Senna 3 (1 9th)

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 28 Jul 2010, 21:25

Blimey even Grosjean gets points in 2009!

Surprised Alguersuari doesn't though! And poor old Badoer misses out too!

And Glock is the only eligible regular driver not to score points so far this year?

Great idea though, really enjoyed reading it - now I wonder what might happen if you go backwards where drivers keep their most recent championship but get disqualified from all their previous ones?

Probably would be best to "start" that once the 2010 season is complete, once we know who the 2010 WC is - if you start with 2009, only excluding Button from the 2008 results doesn't change a thing, apart from Nakajima, Trulli and whoever finished 9th in Spain (can't remember off the top of my head!) get one extra point!

Pieman · Post by **Pieman** » 28 Jul 2010, 23:12

Well done Bleu - I enjoyed that! (Bit disppointed that Minardi didn't manage to win a race though.)

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 13 Sep 2010, 20:49

Sorry to be resurrecting an old thread - but both this format of alternative chamionship (and the one based on most wins in a season which tommykl is currently doing) have really fascinated me. I have been playing around looking at doing a similar thing where all previous champs are ineligible, but I am using the 2010 points-scoring format of 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1 with all scores to count. I didn't start from the beginning as I have very little interest in the 50s and 60s, and don't really understand this shared-car stuff they did in the 50s and so forth, but I compared champions from the 60s and early 70s and they are mostly the same in both formats from that era, the first one I came to which looked quite close was 1974 so I worked on the same principle under 2010 rules from then (and disqualifying the same set of drivers from both this and the most wins championship). However, all the results and champions from 1974 are all the same as this thread, until I got to 1981 - would people be interested in seeing the results from then on?

Post by **tommykl** » 14 Sep 2010, 17:22

Of course! We're always interested in this kind of stuff