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by dr-baker 16 Aug 2016, 16:09
What if only the 5 women who have been entered in a F1 Grand Prix could have their results count towards a championship? Well, here's my attempt at doing that. It was tricky, as only once has more than one woman been competing at the same weekend race meeting, so I came up with some rules, including how I was going to score the championship (given the lack of entries, particularly after round 1!). (And it'll be a loooong time until this gets updated...)

1. Each woman's first race weekend is race one in this championship, each woman's second race weekend is race two towards this championship, etc. This means that when both Lella Lombardi and Divina Galica enter the 1976 British GP, these entries may appear as different rounds for each driver here, as they would each be at a different point of their F1 race career at this point. It would be unfair to rearrange race results arbitrarily for fear of bias or discrimination.

2. Due to so many DNQs, results will be as follows:
a) anyone who qualifies beats anybody who DNQs, regardless of rules below;
b) (i) the remainder of results will be based on proportionally how far up or down the results list the woman is listed. E.g. 23rd/25 will be lower in the results than 24th/30. And if another is 25th and qualifies, but those who are 23rd and 24th are DNQs, then as 2.a) suggests, 25th will be ahead, regardless of that grid size. This is to reduce the effect of different grid sizes and numbers permitted to start.
(ii) where two qualify last, but with different grid sizes, the lady in the smaller grid will be determined arbitrarily to have the better result as she was out-qualified by fewer drivers. (Who's to say that if there were the same number of drivers entered into each race, that each woman would still have qualified last?)
(iii) where a driver falls foul of the 107% rule of the late 1990s and early 21st century, but is permitted to start the race regardless, the race results obviously counts. But if they score a result that is equal to the race result of another (e.g. both are the last finisher or first retirement, etc.), then falling foul of the 107% rule shall count against them.
c) In the case where 2.b) does not separate two drivers, it shall be calculated the percentage from pole that the person qualified (in the same way the 107% rule is worked out). The closer to pole, the better.

3. Clearly rule 2 talks a lot about qualifying. Sadly, this is because three out of the five ladies to have attempted to qualify for a championship GP to date have only ever had DNQs to their names. But in the event where two (or more, should that come to pass in the future) qualify and race, a race finish is better than a DNF. Obviously. So a 13th but finished is better than an unclassified 11th and DNFed. And a points finish is better than a non-points finish, regardless of proportionally how far up or down the results the driver is. Any race finish will be in position order, unlike qualifying.

4. As there have been to date only 5 women, and not all of them have competed in the same number of races, none of the F1 championship points systems to date seem realistic, so using the Olympic medal system seems appropriate for this: i.e. 3 for a win/gold, 2 for a second/silver, 1 for a 3rd/bronze.

5. Friday/practice-only drivers do not count as they were not official race entries. Much as I would like to see Susie Wolff somehow be added to this. she was never in a qualifying session, so she cannot be fairly compared to the other women who did set times in qualifying and were thus awarded official grid/DNQ classifications.

6. Further rules and clarifications to be added as the need arises. I imagine it may be some time before this gets the opportunity to be updated. Of course, with the lack of DNQs in modern F1 (barring 107% failures), any female drivers who are fortunate enough to be entered into a race in the near future are likely to demote Desire Wilson, Giovanna Amati and Divina Galica in these arbitrary race results.

All entries here are listed as:
Position in round/Driver/Team or car/Real-life GP entered/real-life qualifying result/real-life race result (if applicable)

So here goes:

Round 1
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Maria Teresa de Filippis  Maserati 250F  1958 Monaco GP            22nd/28 (DNQ)
Lella Lombardi            Brabham-Ford   1974 British GP           28th/34 (DNQ)
Divina Galica             Surtees-Ford   1976 British GP           28th/30 (DNQ)
Desire Wilson             Williams-Ford  1980 British GP           27th/27 (DNQ)
Giovanna Amati            Brabham-Judd   1992 South African GP     30th/30 (DNQ)         

So here is a good example already of the 'proportionality' rule playing out. For while Desire Wilson's 27th seems better than Divina Galica's 28th in pure result terms, Galica actually outqualified 2 others, whereas Wilson did not outqualify anybody, so Galica is considered here to have done better. Maria Teresa de Filippis was in a self-entered Maserati. This was the race in which she beat Bernie Ecclestone! And this is the only appearance of Desire Wilson, the only female winner of an F1 race, albeit a non-FIA championship race (it being in the British Aurora F1 Championship race instead). According to the 4th edition of Steve Small's 'Grand Prix Who's Who', Lombardi was 28th= in qualifying, and de Filippis was 22nd=.

Round 2
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Maria Teresa de Filippis  Maserati 250F  1958 Belgian GP           19th/20            10th
Lella Lombardi            March-Ford     1975 South African GP     26th/28            DNF
Divina Galica             Hesketh-Ford   1978 Argentinian GP       27th/27 (DNQ)
Giovanna Amati            Brabham-Judd   1992 Mexican GP           30th/30 (DNQ)

De Filippis is again in a self-entered Maserati. In her race, there were 10 qualifiers, 19 starters, and 10 finishers. In Lombardi's race, there were 2 DNQs, one of whom was Graham Hill in one of his own cars.

De Filippis and Lombardi both qualify for the first time in their 2nd race.

Round 3
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Lella Lombardi            March-Ford     1975 Spanish Grand Prix   24th/26            6th
Maria Teresa de Filippis  Maserati 250F  1958 Portuguese GP        15th/15            DNF
Divina Galica             Hesketh-Ford   1978 Brazilian GP         28th/28 (DNQ)
Giovanna Amati            Brabham-Judd   1992 Brazilian GP         30th/30 (DNQ)

This is the third and final F1 championship race for both Galica and Amati. In all three races, Galica does better than Amati. This is because of smaller grids in 2 cases, but in the one case where the grid size is the same for both drivers (both drivers' first race, round 1), Galica does not actually qualify last, unlike Amati. This highlights the reasoning behind the logic for this arbitrary decision, however unscientific it might seem. And while Moreno in his Andrea Moda DNPQed in the same race as Amati, because Amati did not need to pre-qualify at this race weekend alongside the Andrea Modas, I have ignored Moreno being listed as a DNPQ behind Amati.

Round 4
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Maria Teresa de Filippis  Maserati 250F  1958 Italian GP           21st/21            DNF
Lella Lombardi            March-Ford     1975 Monaco GP            25th/26 (DNQ)

This was de Filippis's last race in a self-entered car, and her last in the Maserati 250F. Although Lombardi did slightly better than de Filippis in qualifying (she actually outqualified somebody, although it did not include Graham Hill this time, a fellow DNQer), Lombardi DNQed, unlike de Filippis, who started the race.

Round 5
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Lella Lombardi            March-Ford     1975 Belgian GP           17th/24            DNF
Maria Teresa de Filippis  Behra-Porsche  1959 Monaco GP            21st/24 (DNQ)

For de Filippis's last race, she was entered by Dr Ing F Porsche KG. After this, Lella Lombardi still had another 12 entries. But because there are no other eligible entries for this championship, she 'wins' them by default, until there comes along another woman who is entered into more than 5 GPs.

Championship points (based on rule 4 above)
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1. Maria Teresa de Filippis 13
2. Lella Lombardi           12
3. Divina Galica             3
4= Desire Wilson             0
4= Giovanna Amati            0

It could be justified giving Lombardi 3 points for each of the additional races she did 'uncontested' within this championship, but it would make this championship table just absurd, don't you think?

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