Grand Prix Rejects

CoopsII wrote:Well, I guess the numbers are down but the ones that still watch F1 are the important ones, the ones they want, demographics etc.

Plus there's probably other ways of watching that aren't measurable, online highlights clips etc.

CoopsII wrote:It always seems strange to me to hear of “fans” getting bored of F1 being dominated by Mercedes / Red Bull / Ferrari / McLaren / Williams etc as it makes me think they’re missing the point of it.

MyHamsterRacedAnOnyx wrote:With the current trend of having two races back to back at a single circuit, would the logistics work so that one of the races could be run anti-clockwise? Somewhere like Austria with few corners would be easy in turns of the run off areas,barriers,pit lane exit/entry surely? It'd give more of a sense of variety to the races.

Spectoremg wrote:Is anyone high on gummy bears?

CoopsII wrote:I wonder what Liberty will come up with next to “spice up the racing”? - which is a phrase I’ve grown to despise as much as “ I’m not racist, but…”

Certainly their ‘chuck ideas in blender and see what happens’ approach means literally anything’s possible.

Anyone want to hazard a guess?

CoopsII wrote:I wonder what Liberty will come up with next to “spice up the racing”? - which is a phrase I’ve grown to despise as much as “ I’m not racist, but…”

Certainly their ‘chuck ideas in blender and see what happens’ approach means literally anything’s possible.

Anyone want to hazard a guess?

mario wrote:Going by the introduction of the overtaking award, it is probably going to be some sort of similarly tacky "award" that can be sold for more sponsorship opportunities, but can be introduced relatively cheaply and easily.

Given that there is already a poll position trophy, I wouldn't be surprised if the next move is something like a "most fastest laps" trophy, or perhaps some sort of award for winning the most sprint races.

mario wrote:Going by the introduction of the overtaking award, it is probably going to be some sort of similarly tacky "award" that can be sold for more sponsorship opportunities, but can be introduced relatively cheaply and easily.

Given that there is already a poll position trophy, I wouldn't be surprised if the next move is something like a "most fastest laps" trophy, or perhaps some sort of award for winning the most sprint races.

Nuppiz wrote:

mario wrote:Going by the introduction of the overtaking award, it is probably going to be some sort of similarly tacky "award" that can be sold for more sponsorship opportunities, but can be introduced relatively cheaply and easily.

Given that there is already a poll position trophy, I wouldn't be surprised if the next move is something like a "most fastest laps" trophy, or perhaps some sort of award for winning the most sprint races.

Isn't there already a fastest lap award sponsored by DHL?

Spectoremg wrote:Is Zandvoort Hungary with banked curves?

Bleu wrote:I feel that some people who value just overtaking hated the battle between Alonso and Hamilton in Hungary and for them it would have been better if Hamilton had succeeded to overtake on the first try.

UncreativeUsername37 wrote:

Bleu wrote:I feel that some people who value just overtaking hated the battle between Alonso and Hamilton in Hungary and for them it would have been better if Hamilton had succeeded to overtake on the first try.

I remember someone once saying here (well, I think it was here) that a lot of battles from older races weren't exciting because you knew they wouldn't overtake and a lot of battles from newer races weren't exciting because you knew they would overtake.

I want to add something to that, but my mind has gone a few different directions and none of them are awfully insightful....

Nuppiz wrote:

mario wrote:Going by the introduction of the overtaking award, it is probably going to be some sort of similarly tacky "award" that can be sold for more sponsorship opportunities, but can be introduced relatively cheaply and easily.

Given that there is already a poll position trophy, I wouldn't be surprised if the next move is something like a "most fastest laps" trophy, or perhaps some sort of award for winning the most sprint races.

Isn't there already a fastest lap award sponsored by DHL?

Butterfox wrote:And yet we keep watching because we love the abuse, don't we?

UncreativeUsername37 wrote:I know it was touched on in IIDOTR, but with Leclerc not getting an endplate to the face, Grosjean not getting a barrier to the face, and now Hamilton, it feels like the halo was introduced just in time. I could cite multiple reasons it's a good thing F1's rules aren't decided by a council of longtime forumers, but safety matters is the best one.

Rob Dylan wrote:I answered the survey and noticed all those same things. All their suggestions of "would you like to see" were mostly either rehashing old stuff or just terrible new ideas like the aforementioned success ballast.

Like all big company surveys, you have that feeling most of the questions are just directed to give the decision-makers the answers that they're already looking to justify. There was only one space for comment, at the very end, after what is a 15-20 minute survey. And of course most of the actual issues that bother me personally didn't arise.

So I wrote this in the comment box at the end:

"As a long-time fan, I think F1 has made a lot of good progress in recent years following Ecclestone leaving. However, there is still a lot of improvement to go. Every fan I know hates the 20+ race calendar. It is too long and saturated and dilutes the season show. F1 needs to encourage new teams. 20 cars is too small, and the sport is only hurting itself by putting extravagant fees on new entries for no reason. I was hoping that Liberty would stop this growing exclusivity of the sport, and while media-wise they have improved the sport's reputation, they have lost my trust after the Belgian Grand Prix this year after how they treated fans at the circuit and not offering refunds. Talk is easy, but there is much real change still needed."

It was the best I could do in the smallest space possible.

UncreativeUsername37 wrote:I know it was touched on in IIDOTR, but with Leclerc not getting an endplate to the face, Grosjean not getting a barrier to the face, and now Hamilton, it feels like the halo was introduced just in time. I could cite multiple reasons it's a good thing F1's rules aren't decided by a council of longtime forumers, but safety matters is the best one.

Bleu wrote:Has any F1 team signed any race driver due to money based on their own announcement? And if so, who is the most recent one?

Saubfer Romeo wrote:Guanyu Zhou will be a fine driver and the best possible partner for Valtteri Bottas in 2022, we genuinely believe he's a better bet than pinching Mick Schumacher from Haas even though it's the obvious thing to do because everyone wants to know if he's actually any good or not and being measured against Nikita Mazepin tells us nothing. Now, please ignore this massive pile of bags full of Chinese banknotes with Chairman Mao's face on them, that has absolutely nothing to do with it, nothing at all. In fact, pretend they don't even exist. And now, we would like to introduce our new sponsors: Hisense, Haier, TikTok, Baidu, Guangxi (the Trumpchi is based on an Alfa Romeo 166, don't you know), and King Chemical.

dr-baker wrote: ↑20 May 2022, 05:26 I've just noticed that the number of views that each thread gets has disappeared. I assume that was a deliberate decision during the recent refurbishment rather than by accident?

dr-baker wrote: ↑20 May 2022, 15:34 Is it possible that it is viewable on desktop but not mobile?