Your Reject of the Race - Singapore
Your Reject of the Race - Singapore
2. Felipe Massa - it's time to call it a day, mate.
Honourable mention to Sauber. There was merit in going for the tortoise strategy given the attrition today, but you still need to, you know, actually be fast enough to take advantage...
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2. Sebastian Vettel
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2. Hulkenberg's luck: None
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2nd Williams - They didn't crash and they made the right tire choices, but they were still slow enough to only pull three points out of this race. Sainz was 4th for Torro Rosso. Palmer was 6th. Those are points Williams should've been looking at today, but their 2nd half of the season is turning into a disaster, they've fallen off a complete cliff in terms of pace.
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2 Charlie Whiting, it should of been an SC start
HM Hulkenberg's Renault for not behaving its self and giving him the unwanted record...
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2. Max Verstappen's luck - honestly, poor guy.
HMs:
- Nico Hulkenberg's luck - admittedly it would have been fourth rather than a podium, but the guy has deserved more than his results in my opinion.
- Ferrari's tweet - stating that Max Verstappen, the only driver I would call innocent of the three participants, was responsible is just needless pot-stirring.
Felipe Nasr - the least forgettable F1 driver!Murray Walker at the 1997 Austrian Grand Prix wrote:The other [Stewart] driver, who nobody's been paying attention to, because he's disappointing, is Jan Magnussen.
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2. Nico Hülkenberg's car: Fourth place would have been a brilliant result for Hülkenberg and Renault, but the car broke down. At least Palmer got some points for the team so it wasn't a total disaster for them.
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Enforcer wrote:1st The Start - I had to think about how to nominate an RotR related to the start line incident, or even if to nominate one, because it was imo just a racing incident. No one did anything ludicrously stupid, it was just an unexpectedly good start from Raikkonen plus a slightly marginal move from Vettel that contributed to smashing both Ferraris, Verstappen and Alonso out. But whilst it was no ones fault, it ultimately made for a considerably less interesting race and likely a less interesting Championship run in. And this'll be held up if anyone suggests a standing start in the wet ever again. So I have opted to nominate the start itself.
Agreed 100% on the reasoning for nominating the start. It was really a variety of small factors combining to create one massive accident.
My second nomination goes to... Ericsson, I suppose. Everyone was simultaneously capitalising and losing out, it's kind of hard to look anywhere for a second nomination.
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Luck - Fernando Alonso gets a McLaren into P2, only to be obliterated by two cars with a combined total of six wheels. Nico Hulkenberg gets into a podium position only to be jeopardised by his team pitting a lap too late, then loses his P4 because reasons. Verstappen gets a good start, does nothing stupid, and gets pincered between two World Champions.
EDIT: (6) Daniil Kvyat - He now sits nineteenth in the World Drivers Championship. His teammate is ninth. The only driver below him to have driven a full season is Marcus Ericsson in the Sauber. Today, he crashed into the wall of his own volition. If he holds onto his seat next year, he's exceptionally lucky.
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2. Ericsson - crashing there was just pure reject gold.
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1 - Ericsson - Crashing all by yourself and managing to bring out a safety car.
2 - Bottas - Unable to do anything all weekend and would not have been anywhere close to podium without other teams' errors (Ferrari, Verstappen and Renault for not pitting Hülkenberg right away under Kvjat' safety car)
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Enforcer wrote:1st The Start - I had to think about how to nominate an RotR related to the start line incident, or even if to nominate one, because it was imo just a racing incident. No one did anything ludicrously stupid, it was just an unexpectedly good start from Raikkonen plus a slightly marginal move from Vettel that contributed to smashing both Ferraris, Verstappen and Alonso out. But whilst it was no ones fault, it ultimately made for a considerably less interesting race and likely a less interesting Championship run in. And this'll be held up if anyone suggests a standing start in the wet ever again. So I have opted to nominate the start itself.
Ferrari might have been swiftly responding to the incident by blaming Max on their Twitter feed, but I do agree that it felt more like a racing incident. Out of the three, I would say that Vettel could perhaps take a bit more of the criticism for perhaps a slightly overly aggressive defence, but given that it is unlikely he would have seen Kimi on the inside of Max, he probably wouldn't have realised that he couldn't move further across.
However, as Meatwad rightly notes, the result of that crash for Vettel is such that I would nominate him for ROTR. Going into this race, he had an extremely good chance of winning at a circuit where Mercedes were expected to struggle and, even if Hamilton had looked more competitive in race trim, the struggles he had in qualifying meant that there was a good chance that Vettel could put multiple cars between himself and Hamilton to take a double digit lead in the WDC again.
Instead, that crash not only took himself out of the race, it also took two of the three drivers (Kimi and Verstappen) who could have possibly taken points off Hamilton, whilst at the same time Hamilton took advantage of that confusion to slip past Ricciardo.
Instead of damage limitation, Hamilton managed to slip through to take victory and now has a large lead in the WDC when he was expecting to have to try to make up points - we don't know what might happen in the next six races, but as many others have noted, this could well cost Vettel the title this year.
As for 2nd place, I'd be tempted to go for Kvyat and the rather embarrassing way that his race ended in the barriers - he had been starting to claw his way up the field, but that error was rather expensive given that Sainz managed to secure Toro Rosso's best finish ever at that circuit.
I would say that there are quite a few dishonourable mentions though - Renault had a real opportunity to score big with both drivers, but partially lost out through poor strategy under the safety car (they should have stopped earlier to avoid losing as much as they did), then Hulkenberg's car broke down during the race.
Furthermore, what on earth was going on with the transponder on Palmer's car? It was repeatedly dropping out throughout the race (and it's been consistently malfunctioning during the whole race weekend), and at the end of the race some weren't even sure what position he'd been in when he crossed the line - a somewhat crucial function for the transponder. It's not the first time this season either - are they just giving Palmer all the duff bits of kit now he's being kicked out the team?
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2. Ferrari - For blaming Verstappen
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That's not even the biggest kicker for me. All I'm going to ask is: did Fernando Alonso really deserve to get royally f__ked over like that?
2. Nico Hulkenberg's Car - I have nothing to say.
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mario wrote:Furthermore, what on earth was going on with the transponder on Palmer's car? It was repeatedly dropping out throughout the race (and it's been consistently malfunctioning during the whole race weekend), and at the end of the race some weren't even sure what position he'd been in when he crossed the line - a somewhat crucial function for the transponder. It's not the first time this season either - are they just giving Palmer all the duff bits of kit now he's being kicked out the team?
I think it's the third race in a row (or at least three out of the last four) that Palmer's transponder's been problematic. I'm surprised the FIA haven't gotten onto Renault about it. Unless of course the FIA supply the transponders and it's their faulty part...
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2. Ferrari for their follow-up tweet: