The 2019 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix ROTR
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The 2019 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix ROTR
It's been an Hour since the race ended and there has been no sign of this topic...
1- Ferrari. Massive Cock Up with Leclerc's car could have had a big consequence for them. EDIT-okay it only cost them 50k but still... Don't mess up with the fuel
2- The Stewards. They knew about Leclerc's car since he left the garage so why not deal with it either before or during the race. There wasn't a lot to do this time around... EDIT- I stand by this. It could have been resolved before the race and not left everyone wondering what the actual result was.
1- Ferrari. Massive Cock Up with Leclerc's car could have had a big consequence for them. EDIT-okay it only cost them 50k but still... Don't mess up with the fuel
2- The Stewards. They knew about Leclerc's car since he left the garage so why not deal with it either before or during the race. There wasn't a lot to do this time around... EDIT- I stand by this. It could have been resolved before the race and not left everyone wondering what the actual result was.
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rachel1990 wrote:
2- The Stewards. They knew about Leclerc's car since he left the garage so why not deal with it either before or during the race. There wasn't a lot to do this time around...
It sounds like a straight-forward decision. It sounds like an admin situation.
Only other nomination I can consider is the DRS situation. Should not have failed after so many years of reliable use. Gave us better racing without it though, so suitable for both ROTR and IIDOTR?
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Well nothing unexpected or really stupid happened in the race so...
Alonso entitlement - how many times does he have to be interviewed giving the impression that he thinks he can just walk into a top seat at a top team in 2021?
Alonso entitlement - how many times does he have to be interviewed giving the impression that he thinks he can just walk into a top seat at a top team in 2021?
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The fact that two overtakes happened and weren't shown because Hamilton was shown crossing the finishing line was really annoying. OBVIOUSLY they have to show Hamilton, but it wasn't like he'd done anything interesting over the last 55 laps, and all the action that was occurring was still going on. Missed the Pérez / Norris overtake as well as the Sainz / Hulkenberg overtake.
Not a huge amount that was outrightly rejectful, but if Leclerc gets disqualified then that will probably be the easy candidate to pick.
Not a huge amount that was outrightly rejectful, but if Leclerc gets disqualified then that will probably be the easy candidate to pick.
Felipe Nasr - the least forgettable F1 driver!Murray Walker at the 1997 Austrian Grand Prix wrote:The other [Stewart] driver, who nobody's been paying attention to, because he's disappointing, is Jan Magnussen.
Re: The 2019 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix ROTR
rachel1990 wrote:It's been an Hour since the race ended and there has been no sign of this topic...
1- Ferrari. Massive Cock Up with Leclerc's car could have a big consequence for them.
2- The Stewards. They knew about Leclerc's car since he left the garage so why not deal with it either before or during the race. There wasn't a lot to do this time around...
I agree – ROTR nomination for Ferrari (again ) and dishonorable mention to the stewards.
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First vote to the FIA:
How the ... can it take 4 hours to decide that yes, two numbers are not equal to each other. Why do they even need to interview Leclerc, what kind of input could he give that would change the situation?
Second vote to Ferrari:
Messed up two stacked pitstops and reported the wrong fuel load to the stewards.
How the ... can it take 4 hours to decide that yes, two numbers are not equal to each other. Why do they even need to interview Leclerc, what kind of input could he give that would change the situation?
Second vote to Ferrari:
Messed up two stacked pitstops and reported the wrong fuel load to the stewards.
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What everyone else has said. Seriously is Leclerc 3rd or penalised, or disqualified?
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Re: The 2019 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix ROTR
rachel1990 wrote:It's been an Hour since the race ended and there has been no sign of this topic...
1- Ferrari. Massive Cock Up with Leclerc's car could have had a big consequence for them. EDIT-okay it only cost them 50k but still... Don't mess up with the fuel
2- The Stewards. They knew about Leclerc's car since he left the garage so why not deal with it either before or during the race. There wasn't a lot to do this time around... EDIT- I stand by this. It could have been resolved before the race and not left everyone wondering what the actual result was.
The stewards would have known that discrepancy was there at least an hour before the start of the race - the Technical Directive specifies that the car has to be taken to the weighbridge full of fuel, then they empty and weigh the car, then the fuel is weighed separately and then they reweigh the whole lot again when the car is refuelled.
That all has to be done before he left the pit lane, and they would have known what his fuel load was meant to have been at least two hours before the race (that is the minimum cut off time). Given that it was ultimately down to breaking a directive, it half feels as if the stewards knew that Ferrari had broken something, but they were not quite sure what they had broken.
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IceG wrote:Well nothing unexpected or really stupid happened in the race so...
Alonso entitlement - how many times does he have to be interviewed giving the impression that he thinks he can just walk into a top seat at a top team in 2021?
This irritated me too, not just Alonso but the C4 team asking such stupid and desperate questions.
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Rob Dylan wrote:The fact that two overtakes happened and weren't shown because Hamilton was shown crossing the finishing line was really annoying. OBVIOUSLY they have to show Hamilton, but it wasn't like he'd done anything interesting over the last 55 laps, and all the action that was occurring was still going on. Missed the Pérez / Norris overtake as well as the Sainz / Hulkenberg overtake.
Yep - lots of action , not on TV . TV director seemed to prefer the fireworks .. I suggest the director would be fine if producing content for "Fireworks TV Channel" but is a bit rubbish for motor racing
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Re: The 2019 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix ROTR
rachel1990 wrote:It's been an Hour since the race ended and there has been no sign of this topic...
2- The Stewards. They knew about Leclerc's car since he left the garage so why not deal with it either before or during the race. There wasn't a lot to do this time around... EDIT- I stand by this. It could have been resolved before the race and not left everyone wondering what the actual result was.
I disagree, Michael Masi said that the decision to hold on was because they wanted Ferrari to explain the situation. It was submitted to the stewards five minutes before the pitlane opened, so that's not nearly enough time - Binotto even contends that the FIA's measurements were wrong.
It's amusing to see "why is this not black and white the numbers were different", but there's a lot more nuance involved in a stewards' decision, and even more nuance in the punishments that can be applied to each situation. You can't sit and think of every permutation and come up with a punishment - you have to do something that fits the crime.
Let's go with the TV direction. If you're lucky enough to have F1 TV onboards then you can see the Sainz/Hulk move, but if you're a normal TV watcher - sorry, here's Hamilton trundling around to the easiest win of the year.
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Last poll of the year is up: who is your Reject of the Race in Abu Dhabi? You have 48 hours
Felipe Nasr - the least forgettable F1 driver!Murray Walker at the 1997 Austrian Grand Prix wrote:The other [Stewart] driver, who nobody's been paying attention to, because he's disappointing, is Jan Magnussen.
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So in a result which is by 2019's time almost a tradition, The TV Direction once again gets nominated, but this time actually wins! In all the complaints, it's usually the stewards who end up winning, or something FiA-related, but this time the TV director finally gets the prize they've been waiting for. Much of the television coverage mid-race has been dire, and important stuff has been missed due to zoom-ins on Will Smith and other things that aren't important. The minions are in agreement, the direction meant we missed most of the important overtakes this race, and therefore it gets the finale's award.
Felipe Nasr - the least forgettable F1 driver!Murray Walker at the 1997 Austrian Grand Prix wrote:The other [Stewart] driver, who nobody's been paying attention to, because he's disappointing, is Jan Magnussen.