PMMF Planning Thread

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 14 Nov 2010, 19:38

Despite my lack of interest in the Playoff format for the 2010 season once the underdogs were knocked out, its good to see that the actual world champion won the grand final of my playoff format aswell.

Look out for something kind of similar in 2011, but not for the end of the season

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James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 16 Nov 2010, 17:57

Would everyone be OK for me to start off the "Backwards Elimination" championship (starting with 2009 taking out only Vettel, and so on), or does somebody else really want to do it? If they do, I had another idea up my sleeve, that's all.......

Post by **tommykl** » 17 Nov 2010, 19:30

I have no problem with that, I'll take it off the poll once you start.

Post by **tommykl** » 22 Nov 2010, 17:42

Added a new category to the vote (page 1). Here's how it will work:
I will use an "entrants" championship system.
Example
In 1950, the entrant to score the most points was Alfa Romeo SpA. They entered a maximum of 4 cars that season. They will therefore be awarded numbers 1-4 every race, number 4 not being used if 3 cars are entered, numbers 3-4 not being used if 2 cars are entered,...
Let's say the factory Maserati team came second in the entrants championship, and entered a maximum of 3 cars every race. They will be awarded numbers 5-7 every race, with number 7 not being used if 2 cars are entered,...

To simplify, the Indy 500 will not be counted.

Also, I added a new category, with my vote (I only get 1).

Post by **tommykl** » 26 Dec 2010, 15:35

One Championship is currently in the works, and remember that voting is still open...

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 27 Dec 2010, 13:07

I have two ideas for my next one (which I'm planning to start in the New Year).

One is called "No Winning Teams" where similar to "No Real Champions" every team who ever won a championship is wiped from the history books, though it could be a bit confusing in the old days who drove privateer McLarens/Lotuses/Brabhams etc, would I exclude them or not? It'll be to reward teams like Arrows, Sauber, Jordan, Ligier etc - even Toyota!!!!!

Another one is "No race winners this season" where any race winners are wiped from that season's results (but every year starts again afresh so it won't be co-dependent on what happens in other seasons). For instance, Lewis Hamilton has won a race in every season he's competed in, so will be excluded all the time. Michael Schumacher will only be eligible in 1991 and 2010. Jean Alesi will be eligible every year except 1995!

Which one do people like the sound of best?

Post by **tommykl** » 27 Dec 2010, 13:23

I think the 2nd option is better, because the first sounds like too much trouble (also the fact that if you discount privateer entries, an Argentine GP (don't remember which one) won't happen, because all participants either drove a Ferrari or a Maserati). What would you do, for example, before the Constructor's Championship was inaugurated?

The seacond option would be easier to keep track of.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 27 Dec 2010, 18:44

tommykl wrote:I think the 2nd option is better, because the first sounds like too much trouble (also the fact that if you discount privateer entries, an Argentine GP (don't remember which one) won't happen, because all participants either drove a Ferrari or a Maserati). What would you do, for example, before the Constructor's Championship was inaugurated?

The seacond option would be easier to keep track of.

Think you're probably right - there'll be lots of arguments about who to exclude/include in "No Winning teams". Not only is there the privateer issue, but things like on the basis of excluding Red Bull for winning this year, does that means you'd have to exclude Jaguar and Stewart as well? Similar for Mercedes/Brawn/Honda/BAR. Then there's teams like Lotus and Renault which have won the championship in certain forms, but not in others (Renault 1977-85 didn't win but the Renault from 2002+ did), so the whole thing could just be a big mess.

Whereas a driver's a driver and he either won a race during a certain season or he didn't, so there's no doubts about who to exclude there!

I'll start on that in the New Year, at the moment I'm really enjoying "Snake Points" and "One Car"!

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 28 Dec 2010, 14:26

Now that there's a "No Ferrari" championship, I'll definitely do the one where I eliminate all the race winners of that particular season........

Post by **tommykl** » 08 Jan 2011, 11:03

New voting category added.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 24 Feb 2011, 22:02

I see in the early days of this forum there was a "No Big 4" Alternative Championship (Ferrari, McLaren, Williams, Toleman/Benetton/Renault), but whoever it was who started it stopped while still in the 50s. I think I will do that one now I've finished "No Winners This Season", but as there's already a "No Ferrari" championship, not to duplicate that I will start from 1966 when McLaren started. I think in the case of Williams, I've looked on Wikipedia and Frank Williams raced with other chassis up until 1977, so will include their Politoys/Isos/Wolfs etc, but disqualify Williams as a constructor from 1978. I will keep in the 1977-1985 Renault team as they had nothing to do with the 2002+ Renault team that came out of Benetton.

Need something to keep my interest for another month before the first 2011 race!

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 14 Oct 2011, 11:51

I'm thinking of doing the championship around the home races, if nobody's got one in preparation already!

Another one I'm thinking of is similar to the one I did DQ'ing Germans as I was getting sick of Schumacher, and now Vettel, winning everything - but this time it'll be No British Drivers! I read somehwere that there was a something like a 6 year period in the 60s where every podium featured at least one British driver, and there are plently of top drivers since for things to change.

Definitely better to do one around eliminating drivers rather than teams though as I've found.......

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 27 Feb 2012, 15:51

I'm currently thinking of a female-only series using Grand Prix 2.

That said, I want to run a series whose PMMF's own female drivers (like Pippa Mann and Shinobu Katayama) racing and dueling each other. It will be run like F1RMGP's WEC, but this will feature our own fantasy drivers.

Thoughts?

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 27 Feb 2012, 16:27

I'll be happy to see that!

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 28 Feb 2012, 15:39

dr-baker wrote:I'll be happy to see that!

Thanks, but I need more interest. I also need instructions to install GP2Lap.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 29 Feb 2012, 14:05

I think that could be done reasonably interesting, go for it.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 05 May 2012, 23:03

I have an idea for another GPM2 run series, Based on the popularity of the 24 hour Bathurst race. It would be 2 hour segments of one big race added together. Unlike my other signups this one will be open to created drivers with "spec le man prototype cars" only with a choice of three engines.

Users will have a choice of entering 1 or 2 cars, each needing 3 drivers each. With users having a choice of which driver drives which segment of a race. Yes I know it sounds ghastly similar to the Bathurst but the driver customization element should be enough to stand it apart. That and it is run on GPM2.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 18 May 2012, 19:54

Would anyone be interested in a F1 1979 based series you can join?

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 18 May 2012, 20:41

pasta_maldonado wrote:Would anyone be interested in a F1 1979 based series you can join?

I would! 1979 is one of my favourite seasons ever, since it meant the mass advent of ground effect machines into F1. If the idea goes ahead, I'm already calling dibs on Williams

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 18 May 2012, 20:43

Phoenix wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Would anyone be interested in a F1 1979 based series you can join?

I would! 1979 is one of my favourite seasons ever, since it meant the mass advent of ground effect machines into F1. If the idea goes ahead, I'm already calling dibs on Williams

Ditto here. I call dibs on Gilles Villeneuve immediaetly.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 18 May 2012, 21:07

If I can call dibs on Alfa Romeo, I am interested.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 18 May 2012, 21:08

I would be, if we were able to enter fictional characters!

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 18 May 2012, 21:12

If you can enter fictional drivers, Callum McAllister, Phoenix's father, would like to compete. If not, I want to control Alan Jones.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 18 May 2012, 21:16

pasta_maldonado wrote:Would anyone be interested in a F1 1979 based series you can join?

Yes, Kauhsen please?

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 18 May 2012, 21:23

shinji wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Would anyone be interested in a F1 1979 based series you can join?

Yes, Kauhsen please?

cool, I'll set it up. Unfortunately, I've got all the teams except Kauhsen. Fictional Drivers will be allowed, yes.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 18 May 2012, 21:27

Oh, and another thing. Should the series be run Historically (i.e. Ferrari and Williams will be fast, Rebaque and Merzario unbeleivably slow) or have it where all the cars are equal and the drivers do the work?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 18 May 2012, 21:29

No, there is no fun in random results - especially if historical cars are involved.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 18 May 2012, 21:31

Klon wrote:No, there is no fun in random results - especially if historical cars are involved.

Klon, so you think the cars should have their historical performance?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 18 May 2012, 21:32

pasta_maldonado wrote:
Klon wrote:No, there is no fun in random results - especially if historical cars are involved.

Klon, so you think the cars should have their historical performance?

That is what I am saying.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 18 May 2012, 21:35

Klon wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:
Klon wrote:No, there is no fun in random results - especially if historical cars are involved.

Klon, so you think the cars should have their historical performance?

That is what I am saying.

Sorry for my lack of intelligence tonight

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 18 May 2012, 21:49

Klon wrote:No, there is no fun in random results - especially if historical cars are involved.

I support this notion, and not just because I've chosen Williams.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 18 May 2012, 21:56

Phoenix wrote:
Klon wrote:No, there is no fun in random results - especially if historical cars are involved.

I support this notion, and not just because I've chosen Williams.

Okay then, glad that's sorted. The cars availaible will be : Ferrari T4, Williams FW07, Lotus 79, Tyrell 009, Brabham BT48, McLaren M29, ATS D3, Fittipaldi F5A, Renault RS10, Shadow DN9, Wolf WR7-9, Ensign N179, Merzario A4, Ligier JS11, Arrows A2, Rebaque and the Alfa Romeo 179.

Pamphlet · Post by **Pamphlet** » 19 May 2012, 13:31

Not sure if I should be posting this here, but how does one go about improving his F1-fiction-ish writing outside of simply taking inspiration from other threads? I have a few ideas for a fictional 2015 season and I pretty much have the ideas down for "the story so far" (GP2 2012 and 2013, F1 2012-2014).

I also wonder - since 2014 will bring a huge change in the regulations, what would people consider changing, adding or removing from what we currently have? And how do other people implement in-season car development when simulating with a program other than xkoranate?

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 19 May 2012, 13:42

Now we have almost every form of auto racing here. But what is really missing is an endurance championship. Maybe a mish-mash between Grand-AM, WEC/ALMS, Blancpain Endurance Series, old FIA GT, Super GT and VLN. Although anyone attempting to simulate such a championship deserves the "Duke Nukem-Trophy"

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 19 May 2012, 16:29

Ferrarist wrote:Now we have almost every form of auto racing here. But what is really missing is an endurance championship.

Well, I could theoretically expand that theoretic rFactor championship that haunts my mind and make it an endurance series, it would work. There are only a number of factors hurting me:

a) I don't know how to build in new teams with rFactor - although that is the least of my concerns, I could easily learn to do that.
b) I have no graphical talent to create the livery.
c) I fear there might not be enough interest in this, it would be something specific - although the fact that would have by far the most mind-boggling point system in the Perry McCarthy Memorial forum makes up for it.
d) I only have limited time, so it would take ages for a season to finish.

So, in the end it won't work - ain't I a tease? :lol:

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 19 May 2012, 17:00

Klon wrote:
Ferrarist wrote:Now we have almost every form of auto racing here. But what is really missing is an endurance championship.

Well, I could theoretically expand that theoretic rFactor championship that haunts my mind and make it an endurance series, it would work. There are only a number of factors hurting me:

a) I don't know how to build in new teams with rFactor - although that is the least of my concerns, I could easily learn to do that.
b) I have no graphical talent to create the livery.
c) I fear there might not be enough interest in this, it would be something specific - although the fact that would have by far the most mind-boggling point system in the Perry McCarthy Memorial forum makes up for it.
d) I only have limited time, so it would take ages for a season to finish.

So, in the end it won't work - ain't I a tease?

Here's some answers or you Klon

(sorry if it seems like I think you're an idiot - I don't know how much you know)
a) In GameData/Vehicles/<ModName>/... there will be files called .veh files. These are your driver files. You can edit them in Notepad/Wordpad/Word etc..
b) To make liveries, see if there are templates available on the internet. these are like a painting mask, and they put shadows on your livery. They are normally .psd files, and if you have Paint.Net there is a plugin for that.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 19 May 2012, 17:34

Klon wrote:
Ferrarist wrote:Now we have almost every form of auto racing here. But what is really missing is an endurance championship.

Well, I could theoretically expand that theoretic rFactor championship that haunts my mind and make it an endurance series, it would work. There are only a number of factors hurting me:

xkoranate might be the fitting software to simulate endurance racing. But there have already been some problems with that software, yut none that might seriously hamper any series.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 19 May 2012, 19:18

Ferrarist wrote:Now we have almost every form of auto racing here. But what is really missing is an endurance championship. Maybe a mish-mash between Grand-AM, WEC/ALMS, Blancpain Endurance Series, old FIA GT, Super GT and VLN. Although anyone attempting to simulate such a championship deserves the "Duke Nukem-Trophy"

Well, that and any bike racing. But we do seem to have most four-wheeled sports covered. But no Dakar or Andros Trophy equivalents either...

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 19 May 2012, 19:21

dr-baker wrote:
Ferrarist wrote:Now we have almost every form of auto racing here. But what is really missing is an endurance championship. Maybe a mish-mash between Grand-AM, WEC/ALMS, Blancpain Endurance Series, old FIA GT, Super GT and VLN. Although anyone attempting to simulate such a championship deserves the "Duke Nukem-Trophy"

Well, that and any bike racing. But we do seem to have most four-wheeled sports covered. But no Dakar or Andros Trophy equivalents either...

What series are currently active at the moment, there's so many I've lost count? Aside from F1RWRS...

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 19 May 2012, 19:22

pasta_maldonado wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Ferrarist wrote:Now we have almost every form of auto racing here. But what is really missing is an endurance championship. Maybe a mish-mash between Grand-AM, WEC/ALMS, Blancpain Endurance Series, old FIA GT, Super GT and VLN. Although anyone attempting to simulate such a championship deserves the "Duke Nukem-Trophy"

Well, that and any bike racing. But we do seem to have most four-wheeled sports covered. But no Dakar or Andros Trophy equivalents either...

What series are currently active at the moment, there's so many I've lost count? Aside from F1RWRS...

F2RWRS, F3RWRS, REECCS, RoLFS, RTCC, Indy Championship Series, F1RGP79C,...

EDIT:[b][/b] Oh, and Grand Prix 2 Championship, and F1RMGP,...