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by dr-baker 11 Sep 2017, 10:32
This is the article I kinda had in mind when I set about writing my Lola profile (albeit in French instead of English).

watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
dinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
MCard LOLA
by dr-baker 16 Jun 2018, 14:15
https://www.autosport.com/other/news/13 ... e-19352018

Martin Birrane, who took over the Lola concern from Eric Broadley in 1997, has died. RIP.

watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
dinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
MCard LOLA
by FM1 17 Oct 2018, 21:58
dr-baker wrote:This is the article I kinda had in mind when I set about writing my Lola profile (albeit in French instead of English).


Hey! Writer of this article here. First of, thank you so much for the share! I hope you liked it even with that rough translation :)
Recently, I properly translated this article in English, you can find the link right here: https://formulemoy1.com/en/2017/02/15/l ... la-1-team/ (I also translated another one, I talked about De Cesaris, if you are interested)

See you!
by dr-baker 18 Oct 2018, 13:21
FM1 wrote:
dr-baker wrote:This is the article I kinda had in mind when I set about writing my Lola profile (albeit in French instead of English).


Hey! Writer of this article here. First of, thank you so much for the share! I hope you liked it even with that rough translation :)
Recently, I properly translated this article in English, you can find the link right here: https://formulemoy1.com/en/2017/02/15/l ... la-1-team/ (I also translated another one, I talked about De Cesaris, if you are interested)

See you!

I actually studied French at university level so I can read both French and English fairly well. Thank you for writing your article, it was good.

And I still intend on fixing the links in the first post at some point, honest!
EDIT: I have just noticed that all the image links in the first post are actually all working, so no need to fix them..

watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
dinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
MCard LOLA
by dr-baker 14 Nov 2018, 15:08
A reddit history of the Lola fiasco: https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... team_when/

Unraced F1 has a Lola video!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVsaqZW3c90

And to add to midgrid's FP videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4PSKgQLu4U

watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
dinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
MCard LOLA
by CaptainGetz12 19 Nov 2018, 03:42
Not sure if this was touched on in the old article, but something has been bothering me about MasterCard Lola...

Looking at qualifying for the Australian Grand Prix, all of the Bridgestone-shod cars qualified considerably slower than the Goodyear cars. Only two Bridgestone cars qualified in the top 10 (Johnny Herbert and Olivier Panis), with the back half of the field almost completely made of Bridgestone users.

The Lolas also uses Bridgestones, but in the following grand prix in Brazil (the race where Lola already closed its F1 operation) Bridgestone addressed issues with its tires if Panis's 5th place and Hill's 10th were any indication.

This makes me wonder: Would the Lolas of qualified for the Brazilian GP if they kept going after race one? If the tire issues were a deciding factor it makes the move to scuttle the F1 team as premature. They probably still would of made the back row of the grid, but at least the car would be racing. Is there any credence to this theory?

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by FortiWinks 19 Nov 2018, 04:57
CaptainGetz12 wrote:Not sure if this was touched on in the old article, but something has been bothering me about MasterCard Lola...

Looking at qualifying for the Australian Grand Prix, all of the Bridgestone-shod cars qualified considerably slower than the Goodyear cars. Only two Bridgestone cars qualified in the top 10 (Johnny Herbert and Olivier Panis), with the back half of the field almost completely made of Bridgestone users.

The Lolas also uses Bridgestones, but in the following grand prix in Brazil (the race where Lola already closed its F1 operation) Bridgestone addressed issues with its tires if Panis's 5th place and Hill's 10th were any indication.

This makes me wonder: Would the Lolas of qualified for the Brazilian GP if they kept going after race one? If the tire issues were a deciding factor it makes the move to scuttle the F1 team as premature. They probably still would of made the back row of the grid, but at least the car would be racing. Is there any credence to this theory?


Interesting theory, although you have to factor into account that the second car would still be driven by Rosset ;)

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by This 19 Nov 2018, 05:03
CaptainGetz12 wrote:Not sure if this was touched on in the old article, but something has been bothering me about MasterCard Lola...

Looking at qualifying for the Australian Grand Prix, all of the Bridgestone-shod cars qualified considerably slower than the Goodyear cars. Only two Bridgestone cars qualified in the top 10 (Johnny Herbert and Olivier Panis), with the back half of the field almost completely made of Bridgestone users.

The Lolas also uses Bridgestones, but in the following grand prix in Brazil (the race where Lola already closed its F1 operation) Bridgestone addressed issues with its tires if Panis's 5th place and Hill's 10th were any indication.

This makes me wonder: Would the Lolas of qualified for the Brazilian GP if they kept going after race one? If the tire issues were a deciding factor it makes the move to scuttle the F1 team as premature. They probably still would of made the back row of the grid, but at least the car would be racing. Is there any credence to this theory?

Not yet in Brazil, At Australia, the gap between Lola and arrows who were second last, was just too big. But maybe from the European season on they could be doing better in the Bridgestone-favoured tracks. But they would have needed a reliable sponsor to get that far. Let alone do some development on the car. Another problem was the sub-par driver quality.

Fabulously Floofy.
by Gertrand Bachot 19 Nov 2018, 18:05
This wrote:
CaptainGetz12 wrote:Not sure if this was touched on in the old article, but something has been bothering me about MasterCard Lola...

Looking at qualifying for the Australian Grand Prix, all of the Bridgestone-shod cars qualified considerably slower than the Goodyear cars. Only two Bridgestone cars qualified in the top 10 (Johnny Herbert and Olivier Panis), with the back half of the field almost completely made of Bridgestone users.

The Lolas also uses Bridgestones, but in the following grand prix in Brazil (the race where Lola already closed its F1 operation) Bridgestone addressed issues with its tires if Panis's 5th place and Hill's 10th were any indication.

This makes me wonder: Would the Lolas of qualified for the Brazilian GP if they kept going after race one? If the tire issues were a deciding factor it makes the move to scuttle the F1 team as premature. They probably still would of made the back row of the grid, but at least the car would be racing. Is there any credence to this theory?

Not yet in Brazil, At Australia, the gap between Lola and arrows who were second last, was just too big. But maybe from the European season on they could be doing better in the Bridgestone-favoured tracks. But they would have needed a reliable sponsor to get that far. Let alone do some development on the car. Another problem was the sub-par driver quality.

Come on, I don't think Vincenzo Sospiri was that bad.

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by Rob Dylan 19 Nov 2018, 21:16
Well, he was going to be considered bad when you realise that Ricardo Rosset was one of the two greatest idols for Michael Schumacher -- oh wait, point withdrawn... :deletraz:

Murray Walker at the 1997 Austrian Grand Prix wrote:The other [Stewart] driver, who nobody's been paying attention to, because he's disappointing, is Jan Magnussen.


Felipe Nasr - the least forgettable F1 driver!
by This 20 Nov 2018, 02:00
I'm not sure Sospiri was bad, but he defenitely lacked the experience to set-up the car. Coupled that to Rosset being Rosset.

Fabulously Floofy.
by Rob Dylan 20 Nov 2018, 10:17
Michael Schumacher wrote:The only heroes I really had were in the karting days, seeing two guys one of which was Ayrton Senna and the other Vincenzo Sospiri. They were so special in their own way, dominating the karting world. It was just fascinating to watch them.
Feel free to strikethrough and replace at your own convenience :P

Murray Walker at the 1997 Austrian Grand Prix wrote:The other [Stewart] driver, who nobody's been paying attention to, because he's disappointing, is Jan Magnussen.


Felipe Nasr - the least forgettable F1 driver!
by dr-baker 01 Dec 2018, 18:18
I have recently obtained a copy of the December 1996 issue of MotorSport magazine, so I have updated the first post with my own scanned copies of the relevant articles, plus added a little bit as I found stuff on Bridgestone testing (relevant as Lola ran on Bridgestone). This also signifies my slow transition from Photobucket to Imgur for hosting these images - I am glad that the images have reappeared after a Photobucket-induced hiatus, but the image stamp is annoying...




MotorSport magazine, December 1996

This magazine ran a Lola feature in their December 1996 issue. I obtained a copy in late November 2018 to scan these articles, but on the magazine's website, they have archived the whole back catalogue from 1923 to 2013! So here are the links to the articles of interest:

What Lola Wants, Lola Has Had To Hold On For
Lola's Formula One Heritage, first page
Lola's Formula One Heritage, second page
A Honda in Lola's clothing

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How was Ricardo Rosset able to go four WHOLE seconds quicker in this Bridgestone test than in qualifying at a race meeting? Was he making repeated mistakes in qually? Were the weather conditions different? Was the track more rubbered in? Was he in a different, better chassis? Was the engine mapping different? Were the tyres just that much better?

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Some other teams announce their engine deals at a late date (11th November 1996). I cannot remember if it was normal practice then to announce engine deals for the following season so late? Was it to avoid promoting a different engine brand while continuing with their current engine partner during the contemporary season?

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This (below) is a useful chronological timeline of Lola's history in Formula 1 in the run-up to their works entry.

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It seems odd now, looking back at the works entry that carries Lola's name, that Lola actually has a race win under another entry's name!


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watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
dinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
MCard LOLA
by dr-baker 26 Dec 2018, 09:46


Some interesting info about the testing of the Lola T95/30. I will add this to the first post in due course.

watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
dinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
MCard LOLA
by dr-baker 05 Feb 2019, 16:43
Turns out that Racing Point were trying to revive the Lola name for this season...

https://www.racefans.net/2019/02/04/for ... lola-name/

watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
dinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
MCard LOLA
by This 06 Feb 2019, 03:56
They really have no ideas do they? :facepalm:

Fabulously Floofy.
by FortiWinks 06 Feb 2019, 07:21
I’ve heard Andrea Moda is available if Mr. Stroll so desires...

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by mario 06 Feb 2019, 20:20
CarloSpace wrote:
dr-baker wrote:Turns out that Racing Point were trying to revive the Lola name for this season...

https://www.racefans.net/2019/02/04/for ... lola-name/

Apparently Brabham name too: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/141335/brabham-refused-efforts-to-revive-name-in-f1

At this rate, you're half expecting them to try and turn up under the name of Sauber...

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by AdrianBelmonte_ 06 Feb 2019, 21:12
FortiWinks wrote:I’ve heard Andrea Moda is available if Mr. Stroll so desires...


Good luck to Daddy Stroll on trying to negotiate with Mr. Sassetti (he's still alive?)

Life is also available btw (and easier to take i guess)

#FoxesFansHooligans

#JusticeForFuego
by CarloSpace 06 Feb 2019, 21:15
It is the team formerly known as Spyker, formerly known as, Midland, formerly known as Jordan after all, so maybe revive the Jordan name? I wouldn't oppose that!
by Rob Dylan 08 Feb 2019, 23:18
Make it so.

Murray Walker at the 1997 Austrian Grand Prix wrote:The other [Stewart] driver, who nobody's been paying attention to, because he's disappointing, is Jan Magnussen.


Felipe Nasr - the least forgettable F1 driver!

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