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Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 00:04
by dinizintheoven
Rob Dylan wrote:I mean, I really don't remember when Coulthard did something exciting which wasn't crashing. After 2005 there's just nothing I remember about the guy.

He scored Red Bull's first ever podium at Monaco in 2006, and took the trophy wearing a Superman cape. And then, very early into his time at Red Bull (possibly even Australia 2005) he said "bollocks" in a TV interview and gave rise to Sniff Petrol's Crazy Dave character... bling bling innit.

And you're telling me you don't remember that?

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 18:16
by WeirdKerr
dinizintheoven wrote:
Rob Dylan wrote:I mean, I really don't remember when Coulthard did something exciting which wasn't crashing. After 2005 there's just nothing I remember about the guy.

He scored Red Bull's first ever podium at Monaco in 2006, and took the trophy wearing a Superman cape. And then, very early into his time at Red Bull (possibly even Australia 2005) he said "bollocks" in a TV interview and gave rise to Sniff Petrol's Crazy Dave character... bling bling innit.

And you're telling me you don't remember that?


:facepalm:

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 23:05
by Rob Dylan
Who could forget that chin, though?

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 08 Oct 2015, 23:29
by Izzyeviel
Katayama drove for Minardi in 1997. I have seen the photographic evidence. #hadnoclue

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 09 Oct 2015, 14:02
by SuzukiSwift
The M197 is a very attractive car.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 03 Nov 2015, 09:29
by GerhardTalger
Rob Dylan wrote:Who could forget that chin, though?


After seeing Dafne Schippers it's actually quite forgettable.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 04 Nov 2015, 21:30
by astyanax
I know it's been mentioned already, but one that always eludes my mind is Norberto Fontana. Probably because of the other two argentinian rejects that also raced at around the same time as him (Mazzacane and Tuero - both of them pretty forgettable aswell).

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 09 Nov 2015, 13:09
by golic_2004
Mike Beuttler

British driver, born in Cairo, Egypt, who drove the "Clarke-Mordaunt-Guthrie" team using a March chassis from 1971-73. He never scored points but occasionally finished in the midfield (would have scored on six occasions under today's points system).

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 09 Nov 2015, 13:59
by Bobby Doorknobs
golic_2004 wrote:Mike Beuttler

British driver, born in Cairo, Egypt, who drove the "Clarke-Mordaunt-Guthrie" team using a March chassis from 1971-73. He never scored points but occasionally finished in the midfield (would have scored on six occasions under today's points system).

He was also the only Formula One driver known to be gay, and it has been rumoured (though never confirmed) that he enjoyed particularly "close" relationships with his backers. Ralph Clarke (the "Clarke" in the team name) was openly gay so you never know ;)

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 09 Nov 2015, 16:24
by dr-baker
Simtek wrote:
golic_2004 wrote:Mike Beuttler

British driver, born in Cairo, Egypt, who drove the "Clarke-Mordaunt-Guthrie" team using a March chassis from 1971-73. He never scored points but occasionally finished in the midfield (would have scored on six occasions under today's points system).

He was also the only Formula One driver known to be gay, and it has been rumoured (though never confirmed) that he enjoyed particularly "close" relationships with his backers. Ralph Clarke (the "Clarke" in the team name) was openly gay so you never know ;)

You learn something new every day (hopefully). I didn't know that there were any drivers known to be homosexual.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 09 Nov 2015, 21:55
by AndreaModa
If that's an attempt at a joke Baker that's a pretty piss poor effort. It's not a laughing matter.

If it isn't a joke, then you've stooped pretty low there I'm afraid. Thought you were better than that.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 09 Nov 2015, 22:27
by dr-baker
AndreaModa wrote:If that's an attempt at a joke Baker that's a pretty piss poor effort. It's not a laughing matter.

If it isn't a joke, then you've stooped pretty low there I'm afraid. Thought you were better than that.

OK, fair enough.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 10 Nov 2015, 19:59
by James1978
Back to Fontana, the only thing I can ever remember about him is his pathetic blocking of Jacques Villeneuve in the 1997 championship-decider due to Sauber being Ferrari customers....(I mean even Ralf Schumacher got out the way faster than he did!!) :)

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 18:27
by Izzyeviel
No-one will never forget Giovanni Amati, even the BBC remembered her!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/34771317

(I Couldn't find a suitable thread to post this is, so I chose this one)

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 14 Nov 2015, 12:45
by dr-baker
Izzyeviel wrote:No-one will never forget Giovanni Amati, even the BBC remembered her!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/34771317

(I Couldn't find a suitable thread to post this is, so I chose this one)

You've given her a sex change! Maybe that's why you didn't post it here? ;) :D

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 14 Nov 2015, 15:07
by Izzyeviel
dr-baker wrote:
Izzyeviel wrote:No-one will never forget Giovanni Amati, even the BBC remembered her!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/34771317

(I Couldn't find a suitable thread to post this is, so I chose this one)

You've given her a sex change! Maybe that's why you didn't post it here? ;) :D


Oops. :facepalm:

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 11:13
by GerhardTalger
James1978 wrote:Back to Fontana, the only thing I can ever remember about him is his pathetic blocking of Jacques Villeneuve in the 1997 championship-decider due to Sauber being Ferrari customers....(I mean even Ralf Schumacher got out the way faster than he did!!) :)


The commentary on that moment was pretty entertaining to be honest.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 12 Dec 2015, 16:01
by Spectoremg
Gregor Foitek.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 12 Dec 2015, 16:10
by Spectoremg
Michael Andretti! :shock:
Or maybe most memorable/disastrous!

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 12:55
by FullMetalJack
Even though he was part of that six car race, Patrick Friesacher

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 13:17
by Nessafox
FullMetalJack wrote:Even though he was part of that six car race, Patrick Friesacher

Yup, if your claim to fame is 'being beaten by Albers'...

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 17:00
by FullMetalJack
This wrote:
FullMetalJack wrote:Even though he was part of that six car race, Patrick Friesacher

Yup, if your claim to fame is 'being beaten by Albers'...


Thing is, he was often the quicker driver, just not when it counted.

Same with Minardi in general really, there were many times that season where they had a genuine advantage over Jordan.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 17 Dec 2015, 16:13
by SuzukiSwift
Spectoremg wrote:Michael Andretti! :shock:
Or maybe most memorable/disastrous!


I follow CART/Indycar as well and some of the fanbase are convinced that his under-performance was a conspiracy by Ron Dennis+FIA/Max Mosley/French Communist Party to make American drivers look bad.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 17 Dec 2015, 18:11
by Izzyeviel
Alfa Romeo first used a naturally aspirated engine in their first few seasons as a constructor.

I always thought with their reliability woes that they always had a Turbo.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 17 Dec 2015, 18:23
by AndreaModa
SuzukiSwift wrote:
Spectoremg wrote:Michael Andretti! :shock:
Or maybe most memorable/disastrous!


I follow CART/Indycar as well and some of the fanbase are convinced that his under-performance was a conspiracy by Ron Dennis+FIA/Max Mosley/French Communist Party to make American drivers look bad.


LOL!

Is that a joke?!

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 18 Dec 2015, 11:56
by dr-baker
Izzyeviel wrote:Alfa Romeo first used a naturally aspirated engine in their first few seasons as a constructor.

I always thought with their reliability woes that they always had a Turbo.

But all F1 engines in the 1950s were normally aspirated? I guess you're referring to the 1980s-spec Alfa team however?

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 18 Dec 2015, 15:19
by Bobby Doorknobs
dr-baker wrote:
Izzyeviel wrote:Alfa Romeo first used a naturally aspirated engine in their first few seasons as a constructor.

I always thought with their reliability woes that they always had a Turbo.

But all F1 engines in the 1950s were normally aspirated? I guess you're referring to the 1980s-spec Alfa team however?

Actually, Alfa used a supercharged engine in 1950-51 :P

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 18 Dec 2015, 15:50
by dr-baker
Simtek wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Izzyeviel wrote:Alfa Romeo first used a naturally aspirated engine in their first few seasons as a constructor.

I always thought with their reliability woes that they always had a Turbo.

But all F1 engines in the 1950s were normally aspirated? I guess you're referring to the 1980s-spec Alfa team however?

Actually, Alfa used a supercharged engine in 1950-51 :P

:shock: Wow, really? I obviously didn't know that!!!

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 18 Dec 2015, 15:56
by Bobby Doorknobs
dr-baker wrote:
Simtek wrote:
dr-baker wrote:But all F1 engines in the 1950s were normally aspirated? I guess you're referring to the 1980s-spec Alfa team however?

Actually, Alfa used a supercharged engine in 1950-51 :P

:shock: Wow, really? I obviously didn't know that!!!

Yeah, the original F1 regulations allowed for 4.5 litre naturally aspirated and 1.5 litre forced induction (supercharged or turbocharged) engines.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 18 Dec 2015, 17:25
by dr-baker
Simtek wrote:Yeah, the original F1 regulations allowed for 4.5 litre naturally aspirated and 1.5 litre forced induction (supercharged or turbocharged) engines.

I knew those rules existed in the 1970s (hence why Renault tried the turbo option in the late 1970s), and I think I knew there were similar rules in the 1950s, but I clearly wasn't aware that those rules were exploited then - I had just assumed that all were NA in the 1950s, unlike the late '70s/'80s.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 19 Dec 2015, 16:21
by Izzyeviel
dr-baker wrote:
Izzyeviel wrote:Alfa Romeo first used a naturally aspirated engine in their first few seasons as a constructor.

I always thought with their reliability woes that they always had a Turbo.

But all F1 engines in the 1950s were normally aspirated? I guess you're referring to the 1980s-spec Alfa team however?


Yes I meant the 80's incarnation! You'd have thought with all those engine failures, they'd be using a Turbo.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 21 Dec 2015, 03:01
by FA1L safe
Even being a hopelessly devoted Alfisti, even I have to admit that it wasn't that the engines were turbos, it was because they were Alfas :)

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 21 Dec 2015, 21:06
by mario
dr-baker wrote:
Simtek wrote:Yeah, the original F1 regulations allowed for 4.5 litre naturally aspirated and 1.5 litre forced induction (supercharged or turbocharged) engines.

I knew those rules existed in the 1970s (hence why Renault tried the turbo option in the late 1970s), and I think I knew there were similar rules in the 1950s, but I clearly wasn't aware that those rules were exploited then - I had just assumed that all were NA in the 1950s, unlike the late '70s/'80s.

There was the BRM P15 as well in that era, which had a 1.5 litre supercharged V16 engine (and a vicious spike in power when the superchargers kicked in - the indicated power output pretty much doubled over a range of 3,000rpm).

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 20:48
by AlliotsUsualAccident
Just browsing around on YouTube and found what appears to be Taki Inoue's channel - he commented on this video of Giovanni Lavaggi's qualifying run at Monza in 1995 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijVlOmIrFf8

Assuming it's actually him, the stuff he's liked is pretty tremendous :D https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6Br4L ... WHGmA/feed

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 26 Dec 2015, 22:01
by SuzukiSwift
To be fair the 179, 182, and 183 Alfas were decent if not exactly reliable.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 20 Jan 2016, 08:48
by GerhardTalger
For a multiple race winner who drove for both Ferrari and McLaren, I tend to find Patrick Tambay quite forgettable. I don't know what it is. But it just seems like he was pure filler for me.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 02:47
by Spectoremg
Valtteri Bottas in anticipation.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 10:00
by Aguaman
GerhardTalger wrote:For a multiple race winner who drove for both Ferrari and McLaren, I tend to find Patrick Tambay quite forgettable. I don't know what it is. But it just seems like he was pure filler for me.


Yes.

Also to add
- Buemi
- Kovalainen
- Lairini

Legit forgot that Heikki drove in F1.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 13:13
by RonDenisDeletraz
Anyone remember Nicolas Kiesa?

Me neither.

Re: Most Forgettable Drivers

Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 14:47
by dr-baker
RonDenisDeletraz wrote:Anyone remember Nicolas Kiesa?

Me neither.

I remember his win in Monaco. In F3000... Thanks only to Bjorn Wirdheim!