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A mother stopping her son from racing full stop. Bruno Senna...



Used to happen to me all the time. Thank God my father and I have the same name. We'd just leave "Jr." off the entry blank.....


Back on-topic: How about a car lining up on the grid and running out of fuel before the start because no-one could be bathplugged to fill it? No-way that's ever happened! I hope......
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No that didn't happen yet, but it happened numerous times that somebody had to retire before the race started because of a mechanical failure :)
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A top team forgetting to register their entry in time for the next season, losing out a promising driver contract in the process. Oh wait.
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A new team forgetting to take over the entry, not only the cars of another team. Oh, wait...
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The safety car sent out to test the conditions on track, and crashing.
The car at the front of the "train" at the start of qualifying stalls his car, blocking the pit lane exit.
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A driver wants to come into the pit, but he misses the road and runs into the wall/gravel. Oh wait...
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Julien wrote:No that didn't happen yet, but it happened numerous times that somebody had to retire before the race started because of a mechanical failure :)


Or because he spun out of race in the formation lap...
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Julien wrote:No that didn't happen yet, but it happened numerous times that somebody had to retire before the race started because of a mechanical failure :)


Or because he spun out of race in the formation lap...

Or spun/crashed out on the way to forming up on the grid for the warm-up lap...
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dr-baker wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
Julien wrote:No that didn't happen yet, but it happened numerous times that somebody had to retire before the race started because of a mechanical failure :)


Or because he spun out of race in the formation lap...

Or spun/crashed out on the way to forming up on the grid for the warm-up lap...

Di Grassi! :lol:
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Julien wrote:No that didn't happen yet, but it happened numerous times that somebody had to retire before the race started because of a mechanical failure :)
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DanielPT wrote:Or because he spun out of race in the formation lap...

Or spun/crashed out on the way to forming up on the grid for the warm-up lap...

Di Grassi! :lol:

And Schumacher in China! ;)
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Or Prost in Imola 1991. Although in his defence it was wet and Berger also spun out in the same place. No defence for letting the car stall though. Ahhhh, those good old days where F1 raced in the wet while raining a bit...
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Here is the Schumacher-Albers China incident...
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andrew2209 wrote:The safety car sent out to test the conditions on track, and crashing.
The car at the front of the "train" at the start of qualifying stalls his car, blocking the pit lane exit.


I can imagine the latter happenning in Abu Dabbi, but the driver hits the wall and someone crashes into the back of him....
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Ferrari letting both drivers race equally.
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darkapprentice77 wrote:Ferrari letting both drivers race equally.

What about in the early 1980's when they had Tambay and Arnoux driving for them? Did they explicitly impose team orders on those two drivers (I can't imagine Arnoux willingly accepting team orders given what happened at Renault in the past). Or how about Arnoux and Alboreto? What about Berger and Alesi? Were team orders actively in force in those situations?
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mario wrote:
darkapprentice77 wrote:Ferrari letting both drivers race equally.

What about in the early 1980's when they had Tambay and Arnoux driving for them? Did they explicitly impose team orders on those two drivers (I can't imagine Arnoux willingly accepting team orders given what happened at Renault in the past). Or how about Arnoux and Alboreto? What about Berger and Alesi? Were team orders actively in force in those situations?

I don't think there were team orders between Raikkonen and Massa either.
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After Vettel's comments today, how about a team running out of wet weather tyres in the race and is thus forced either to try and finish on slicks, re-use knackered wets, or retire altogether?
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AndreaModa wrote:

After Vettel's comments today, how about a team running out of wet weather tyres in the race and is thus forced either to try and finish on slicks, re-use knackered wets, or retire altogether?

In that situation, they'd have to stay on the knackered wets, as they'd still be faster than slicks. However, if it affected everyone, then I'd believe that they'd have to red flag the race for safety reasons.

Here's a reject moment:
A driver disobeying team orders, and hitting his teammate.
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andrew2209 wrote: Here's a reject moment:
A driver disobeying team orders, and hitting his teammate.

I'm almost sure this happened already. I just can't remember who it was :D Maybe Alesi crashed with Berger once in '97...

AndreaModa wrote:After Vettel's comments today, how about a team running out of wet weather tyres in the race and is thus forced either to try and finish on slicks, re-use knackered wets, or retire altogether?
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McCarthy was once forced to try to pre-qualify on wet tyres although the track was dry. Andrea Moda wanted to spare money on the tyres...
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Here's a reject moment:
A driver disobeying team orders, and hitting his teammate.


We still have De Cesaris ruining Caffi's podium in Phoenix in 1989 :lol: :lol:
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Julien wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:After Vettel's comments today, how about a team running out of wet weather tyres in the race and is thus forced either to try and finish on slicks, re-use knackered wets, or retire altogether?

McCarthy was once forced to try to pre-qualify on wet tyres although the track was dry. Andrea Moda wanted to spare money on the tyres...


True, though you'll see many F1 cars these days do their demo runs for fans and press events on inters or wets because they heat up quicker, and temporarily provide more grip. But I don't think anyone has ever actually run out of wet tyres when it's been raining, though with the current limitations on tyres, if all three practice sessions, qualifying and the race were all wet, I think it could potentially happen.
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AndreaModa wrote:True, though you'll see many F1 cars these days do their demo runs for fans and press events on inters or wets because they heat up quicker, and temporarily provide more grip.

I thought it was so that they couldn't get data from it.
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andrew2209 wrote:Here's a reject moment:
A driver disobeying team orders, and hitting his teammate.


Also there was DC in Austria 1999 spining his teammate on the 1st lap...then failing to win the race despite clearly having the fastest car.

If that wasn't bad enough. Also the two also had history, from the 1996 Portguese GP (IIRC). Furthermore a few races later, they had yet another (small) collision at the La Source hairpin on the opening lap of the 1999 Belgian GP. Both were very lucky not to suffer damage from it.
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AndreaModa wrote:After Vettel's comments today, how about a team running out of wet weather tyres in the race and is thus forced either to try and finish on slicks, re-use knackered wets, or retire altogether?

There is actually an example of that happening - in the 1976 Japanese GP, the privateer team Heroes Racing entered an old Tyrrell 007 for that race, with Bridgestone providing the team with tyres for that race. The tyres that Bridgestone provided were, unfortunately, very soft - Hoshino, who was driving that car, started in 21st but was as high as 3rd by lap 10 because the tyres gave him so much grip, but the tyres wore out so quickly that the team officially had to withdraw the car on lap 27 because all of their wet weather tyres were dangerously worn down.
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A team locking out the front row in Monaco, then running two-wide all the time so no one can get past them.
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pi314159 wrote:A team locking out the front row in Monaco, then running two-wide all the time so no one can get past them.


I think if Monaco was a bit wider this might have happened today!
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If I was invisible.

Oh, wait...
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The checkered flag being shown early.... ummmmmm yeah....
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A driver crashing in the last corner of the las lap while leading the race
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Normal32 wrote:A driver crashing in the last corner of the las lap while leading the race

Especially if it happened in a race like the Indy 500. That would never happen.
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UgncreativeUsergname wrote:
Normal32 wrote:A driver crashing in the last corner of the las lap while leading the race

Especially if it happened in a race like the Indy 500. That would never happen.


Or in Monaco, perhaps in 1970...
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shinji wrote:
UgncreativeUsergname wrote:
Normal32 wrote:A driver crashing in the last corner of the las lap while leading the race

Especially if it happened in a race like the Indy 500. That would never happen.


Or in Monaco, perhaps in 1970...

Or even Italy, say, in 1953...
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I'll tell you what, I've never seen this happening in Formula One.
I saw stuff happening on the formation lap, but never under SC.
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Pointrox wrote:I'll tell you what, I've never seen this happening in Formula One.
I saw stuff happening on the formation lap, but never under SC.

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dr-baker wrote:Montoya and Schumacher say hello!!!


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