Rantbox

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 24 Jul 2011, 23:53

WeirdKerr wrote:Dear Pirelli why did you buy Bridgestone's tires...

Fixed.

RainierSassetti · Post by **RainierSassetti** » 26 Jul 2011, 21:13

Dear FiA, why is an aero arms race any d*mn f*cking better than an engine one, or any other arms race?

You may politely eat my corporal fluids.
Regards,

Peter · Post by **Peter** » 27 Jul 2011, 02:47

Dear FIA, you are turning F1 into a Spec series that's organized by the Environmental Protection Agency. Loosen up the engine rules PLEASE, and screw saving money, F1 costs are fine enough at the moment, and who is it harming other than the new teams, who will eventually grow in size as well. Can someone please throw papayas at Jean Todt at the next race, and every race after until 2014?

Frentzen127 · Post by **Frentzen127** » 27 Jul 2011, 19:57

It annoys me a little that Pedro de la Rosa is referred to as de la Rosa instead of Martínez which would be the proper way to refer to him as per traditional custom. Nobody refers to or would even recognise a certain Juan Pablo Roldán, Sergio Mendoza, or a Pastor Rafael Motta. They are awesome alternatives though.

RAK · Post by **RAK** » 27 Jul 2011, 21:22

Frentzen127 wrote:It annoys me a little that Pedro de la Rosa is referred to as de la Rosa instead of Martínez which would be the proper way to refer to him as per traditional custom. Nobody refers to or would even recognise a certain Juan Pablo Roldán, Sergio Mendoza, or a Pastor Rafael Motta. They are awesome alternatives though.

Probably his choice. Haven't a few other drivers defied the normal conventions when it comes to Spanish/Portuguese names? Ayrton Senna's given last name in racing was the maternal surname.

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 27 Jul 2011, 22:02

RAK wrote:
Frentzen127 wrote:It annoys me a little that Pedro de la Rosa is referred to as de la Rosa instead of Martínez which would be the proper way to refer to him as per traditional custom. Nobody refers to or would even recognise a certain Juan Pablo Roldán, Sergio Mendoza, or a Pastor Rafael Motta. They are awesome alternatives though.

Probably his choice. Haven't a few other drivers defied the normal conventions when it comes to Spanish/Portuguese names? Ayrton Senna's given last name in racing was the maternal surname.

Explain???

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 27 Jul 2011, 23:17

WeirdKerr wrote:
RAK wrote:
Frentzen127 wrote:It annoys me a little that Pedro de la Rosa is referred to as de la Rosa instead of Martínez which would be the proper way to refer to him as per traditional custom. Nobody refers to or would even recognise a certain Juan Pablo Roldán, Sergio Mendoza, or a Pastor Rafael Motta. They are awesome alternatives though.

Probably his choice. Haven't a few other drivers defied the normal conventions when it comes to Spanish/Portuguese names? Ayrton Senna's given last name in racing was the maternal surname.

Explain???

Well, his full name is Ayrton Senna da Silva. In Iberian cultures (and those influenced by it), the surname of a person is a combination of both the mother's and the father's surname with the father's surname being the commonly used one when not using the full surname which was and is not done by Ayrton Senna and Pedro De La Rosa, whom's maternal surnames are far more known.

dnhrudi · Post by **dnhrudi** » 29 Jul 2011, 05:35

Well, his full name is Ayrton Senna da Silva. In Iberian cultures (and those influenced by it), the surname of a person is a combination of both the mother's and the father's surname with the father's surname being the commonly used one when not using the full surname which was and is not done by Ayrton Senna and Pedro De La Rosa, whom's maternal surnames are far more known.[/quote]

Ditto Portugese F3 hotshoe António José Simões da Costa, and a number of others. There were some that dropped thier mothers name such as Luis Perez Sala and Alex Diaz Ribeiro. De la Rosa dropped the Martinez when he went to race in Japan, he used his full name in GB F3. The one that always intrigued me was Gugelmin, wasnt his birth name Gugliemli or something like that?

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 29 Jul 2011, 08:41

The thing with Brazilians is though, they got the most ridiculous names EVER anyway. It's most obvious in Football, luckily 9 out of 10 of them use a artist name.
You'd have to be rather well versed to know who Edison Arantes do Nascimento, Luís Nazário de Lima, Ronaldo de Assis Moreira, Vítor Borba Ferreira, Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite or Nélson de Jesus Silva are.

(For those not versed in football, they are Pele, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Kaka and Dida respectively)

And to be honest, Ayrton Da Silva just doesn't have the same ring as Ayrton Senna imo.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 29 Jul 2011, 09:50

Well, I am quite surprised at your understanding of the Iberian and South American cultures! It is good to see!

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 29 Jul 2011, 12:22

News International.

BSkyB.

Murdoch.

Sky Sports.

Bernie.

Money.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 29 Jul 2011, 12:25

shinji wrote:News International.

BSkyB.

Murdoch.

Sky Sports.

Bernie.

Money.

Meanwhile, at Ecclestone's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJOjTNuuEVw

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 29 Jul 2011, 13:16

RAK wrote:
Frentzen127 wrote:It annoys me a little that Pedro de la Rosa is referred to as de la Rosa instead of Martínez which would be the proper way to refer to him as per traditional custom. Nobody refers to or would even recognise a certain Juan Pablo Roldán, Sergio Mendoza, or a Pastor Rafael Motta. They are awesome alternatives though.

Probably his choice. Haven't a few other drivers defied the normal conventions when it comes to Spanish/Portuguese names? Ayrton Senna's given last name in racing was the maternal surname.

The same thing applies to Nelson Piquet (father), whose name is Nelson Piquet Sottomayor (according to some sources, Souto Maior).

Frentzen127 · Post by **Frentzen127** » 29 Jul 2011, 13:53

If you notice, however, the names I mentioned in my post were only in Spanish Language. I am aware of the portuguese custom, and a fairly common one it is too. In contrast, we rarely seem to do so in spanish, which is why I mentioned it in the first place.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 29 Jul 2011, 21:44

I hate how my job has made it nigh-impossible to follow Formula One, and I fear that will probably be true for the foreseeable future.

This world is cruel.

Peter · Post by **Peter** » 29 Jul 2011, 21:54

thehemogoblin wrote:I hate how my job has made it nigh-impossible to follow Formula One, and I fear that will probably be true for the foreseeable future.

This world is cruel.

Being a moderator on F1Rejects makes it impossible to follow Formula 1? :lol:

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 29 Jul 2011, 22:13

Peter wrote:
thehemogoblin wrote:I hate how my job has made it nigh-impossible to follow Formula One, and I fear that will probably be true for the foreseeable future.

This world is cruel.

Being a moderator on F1Rejects makes it impossible to follow Formula 1?

I have a real life that has dramatically encroached upon my ability to hang out on the Internet all the time.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 30 Jul 2011, 22:07

Hulkenberg + F1 = GET OUT!
Hulkenberg + IndyCar = YES!

Rocks with Salt · Post by **Rocks with Salt** » 31 Jul 2011, 18:36

Cynon wrote:Hulkenberg + F1 = GET OUT!
Hulkenberg + IndyCar = YES!

U SERIUZ? When did that happen?

Myrvold · Post by **Myrvold** » 31 Jul 2011, 23:08

Rumour in german media that he won't be a test driver anymore. Either he gets a seat in 2012, or he will look for Le Mans, IndyCar or DTM.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 31 Jul 2011, 23:20

Myrvold wrote:Rumour in german media that he won't be a test driver anymore. Either he gets a seat in 2012, or he will look for Le Mans, IndyCar or DTM.

Since this is the rantbox: nope!

There will be barely anyone from F1 going to DTM next year. DTM for next year is virtually a full flight. If I had to say a number, there are - at best - three new seats available. So, fellas, stop claiming people will look for a DTM drive.

Myrvold · Post by **Myrvold** » 31 Jul 2011, 23:45

Klon wrote:
Myrvold wrote:Rumour in german media that he won't be a test driver anymore. Either he gets a seat in 2012, or he will look for Le Mans, IndyCar or DTM.

Since this is the rantbox: nope!

There will be barely anyone from F1 going to DTM next year. DTM for next year is virtually a full flight. If I had to say a number, there are - at best - three new seats available. So, fellas, stop claiming people will look for a DTM drive.

Well, u are German not me!

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 01 Aug 2011, 00:08

Myrvold wrote:Well, u are German not me!

Yes, indeed, I am one of ze Germans and I demand Ordnung! :mrgreen:

RainierSassetti · Post by **RainierSassetti** » 02 Aug 2011, 00:03

Frentzen127 wrote:It annoys me a little that Pedro de la Rosa is referred to as de la Rosa instead of Martínez which would be the proper way to refer to him as per traditional custom. Nobody refers to or would even recognise a certain Juan Pablo Roldán, Sergio Mendoza, or a Pastor Rafael Motta. They are awesome alternatives though.

You know, why not Pedro Martinez?
There is another (well-known) one. (In North America at least)

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 02 Aug 2011, 01:15

RainierSassetti wrote:
Frentzen127 wrote:It annoys me a little that Pedro de la Rosa is referred to as de la Rosa instead of Martínez which would be the proper way to refer to him as per traditional custom. Nobody refers to or would even recognise a certain Juan Pablo Roldán, Sergio Mendoza, or a Pastor Rafael Motta. They are awesome alternatives though.

You know, why not Pedro Martinez?
There is another (well-known) one. (In North America at least)

Love me some Pedro changeups.

stupot94 · Post by **stupot94** » 04 Aug 2011, 09:01

Dear FIA

Arghhhhh

Thank You

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 04 Aug 2011, 18:18

stupot94 wrote:Dear FIA

Arghhhhh

Thank You

Well said, stupot.

stupot94 · Post by **stupot94** » 04 Aug 2011, 18:56

JeremyMcClean wrote:
stupot94 wrote:Dear FIA

Arghhhhh

Thank You

Well said, stupot.

I just needed to get it out there. I would have just sounded weird if I did it in my living room

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 07 Aug 2011, 20:12

Not sure where I posted it, but I do remember suggesting on this board or somewhere else to ditch the hards since nobody was using it until the second-last lap..

My words have been mouthed

Peter · Post by **Peter** » 08 Aug 2011, 00:21

It's because of Pirelli ditching the hard tyres that people are accusing Pirelli of being biased to Ferrari. I disagree, because everyone disliked the hard tyres, saying that they had too little grip, and didn't even last long. Yes, it will certainly favour Ferrari, as they struggled on the hards the most of anyone, but I hate when people always play the "Blame Ferrari" card whenever a rule change arises without thinking of the actual problems or potential problems of whatever rule it may be.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 08 Aug 2011, 01:05

So, you take both participants in an accident which was a bit rough, even ended one driver's race - although said driver was cool about it - and slap three places grid penalty on both of them, regardless of fault?

Screw you, DTM stewards...

Myrvold · Post by **Myrvold** » 08 Aug 2011, 02:19

Well, to rant about it, you have to care about it. And that is impossible in todays DTM... It sucks.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 08 Aug 2011, 02:29

Myrvold wrote:Well, to rant about it, you have to care about it. And that is impossible in todays DTM... It sucks.

Obveeeously, I care about it.

Yeah, only because of Ralf Schumacher - deal with it!

stupot94 · Post by **stupot94** » 08 Aug 2011, 14:08

Klon wrote:
Myrvold wrote:Well, to rant about it, you have to care about it. And that is impossible in todays DTM... It sucks.

Obveeeously, I care about it.

Yeah, only because of Ralf Schumacher - deal with it!

Ralf Schumacher is shite

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 08 Aug 2011, 14:12

stupot94 wrote:Ralf Schumacher is shite

HRTers gonna HRTe.

Post by **mario** » 08 Aug 2011, 16:42

Peter wrote:It's because of Pirelli ditching the hard tyres that people are accusing Pirelli of being biased to Ferrari. I disagree, because everyone disliked the hard tyres, saying that they had too little grip, and didn't even last long. Yes, it will certainly favour Ferrari, as they struggled on the hards the most of anyone, but I hate when people always play the "Blame Ferrari" card whenever a rule change arises without thinking of the actual problems or potential problems of whatever rule it may be.

Thank you - this season, the current hard tyre compound has been an abysmal failure, and Pirelli know it has been a failure, because the balance between outright pace and tyre wear is too far out. It just doesn't have the durability that it needs to make it viable over a long stint, and the current mediums are a far better compromise - besides, most of the upcoming tracks do not have especially abrasive surfaces, so the medium tyres will be more than adequate anyway.

Sadly, though, it seems that nothing in Formula 1 can happen without somebody asking if Ferrari are behind it - it's not as if they don't have any influence, but some commentators, who'd normally be completely rational and methodical, will hyperbolically blame Ferrari for just about every problem, real and imagined, in the sport today, even where there is clear evidence that others have been involved.

stupot94 · Post by **stupot94** » 08 Aug 2011, 18:26

Klon wrote:
stupot94 wrote:Ralf Schumacher is shite

HRTers gonna HRTe.

I always seem to be walking behind HRTers

1993DonningtonNo1 · Post by **1993DonningtonNo1** » 08 Aug 2011, 19:45

What's this? Williams trying to get rid of Rubinho? That better be a wild rumour or else!

stupot94 · Post by **stupot94** » 08 Aug 2011, 19:49

1993DonningtonNo1 wrote:What's this? Williams trying to get rid of Rubinho? That better be a wild rumour or else!

I thinks thats why there are riots

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 09 Aug 2011, 22:00

stupot94 wrote:
1993DonningtonNo1 wrote:What's this? Williams trying to get rid of Rubinho? That better be a wild rumour or else!

I thinks thats why there are riots

I thought the riots were because they were thinking about keeping Pastor Maldonado.