Reject (or not) track design.

The place for anything and everything else to do with F1 history, different forms of motorsport, and all other randomness
Post Reply
User avatar
WaffleCat
Posts: 2293
Joined: 08 Jan 2012, 13:02
Location: Singapore

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by WaffleCat »

dr-baker wrote:
WaffleCat wrote:
dr-baker wrote:When's the deadline for this contest? Because we seem to have hit a wall with new entries now.


I mentioned earlier in the thread that the deadline is on 31st May,noon.

I also thought there was mention of bringing the deadline forward...


I know,but I have to go on a school trip from the 27th to the 30th,which delays the deadline.I think there is Wi-fi at the hotel I'm staying at,but I only have my iPad along,and it is too inconvenient to try and decide what time to post the deadline.
My friend's USB drive spoiled, spilled tea on her laptop and had a bird poo in her hand.

What did she do in her past life to deserve this?

Signup for the Random Racing League, Season TWO!!!
User avatar
dr-baker
Posts: 15603
Joined: 29 Mar 2009, 17:30
Location: Here and there.

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by dr-baker »

WaffleCat wrote:I know,but I have to go on a school trip from the 27th to the 30th,which delays the deadline.I think there is Wi-fi at the hotel I'm staying at,but I only have my iPad along,and it is too inconvenient to try and decide what time to post the deadline.

Fair enough. Can't argue with that. :)
watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
dinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
MCard LOLA
User avatar
tristan1117
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 3277
Joined: 28 Mar 2009, 20:55
Location: Lost in the supermarket

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by tristan1117 »

Fairly mediocre track for a fairly mediocre airport.

Newark Airport, New Jersey.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5478628
CoopsII wrote:On occasion I have ventured into the PMM forum but beat a hasty retreat soon after as it resembles some sort of bad acid trip in there
User avatar
nome66
Posts: 1580
Joined: 18 Dec 2010, 22:42
Location: Central Marlyland, USA

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by nome66 »

tristan1117 wrote:Fairly mediocre track for a fairly mediocre airport.

Newark Airport, New Jersey.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5478628

looks vaguely like st. petersberg, fl's indy track, but not really
I believe in German BARawnda-Tyrrell-Simca(and it's working)

the only difference between the roman gladiators and racing drivers is that racing drivers sit inside the lion that is trying to kill them.
User avatar
UncreativeUsername37
Posts: 3420
Joined: 25 May 2012, 14:36
Location: Earth

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by UncreativeUsername37 »

Hi, I'm new, first post, etc.. Track where I used to live:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5478807
Rob Dylan wrote:Mercedes paying homage to the other W12 chassis by breaking down 30 minutes in
User avatar
tommykl
Posts: 7101
Joined: 07 Apr 2010, 17:10
Location: Banbury, Oxfordshire, UK

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by tommykl »

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Hi, I'm new, first post, etc.. Track where I used to live:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5478807

That looks like an interesting track, maybe a mix between Longford and Ain-Diab...

Anyways, we're currently having a competition to see who can make the best airport track using runways, taxiways and perimetre roads. Care to join in?
kevinbotz wrote:Cantonese is a completely nonsensical f*cking alien language masquerading as some grossly bastardised form of Chinese

Gonzo wrote:Wasn't there some sort of communisim in the East part of Germany?
User avatar
Waris
Posts: 1781
Joined: 29 Mar 2009, 01:07
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Waris »

I like this idea of a contest! The winning track should be made for a game like rFactor by someone who is skilled at doing such things.

Not related to the contest, there absolutely needs to be a street circuit in Ashgabad, the capital of Turkmenistan. That city is full of crazy mechanic monuments built by the crazy dictator who created this personality around him that more or less became the state ideology. One of them is in the form of a book whose pages open automatically. Check it out!

Book monument
12 metre tall statue of the Great Dictator
MOTOR RACING IS DANGEROUS
User avatar
UncreativeUsername37
Posts: 3420
Joined: 25 May 2012, 14:36
Location: Earth

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by UncreativeUsername37 »

tommykl wrote:Anyways, we're currently having a competition to see who can make the best airport track using runways, taxiways and perimetre roads. Care to join in?


(Actually bothers to read thread)
Oh....

Logan Circuit
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5479991
Rob Dylan wrote:Mercedes paying homage to the other W12 chassis by breaking down 30 minutes in
User avatar
Captain Hammer
Posts: 3459
Joined: 30 Mar 2009, 11:10

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Captain Hammer »

Klon wrote:
Captain Hammer wrote:Okay, here's my entry - the Berlin Schönefeld

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5464963

I must admit I am very tempted to steal your idea and go to the ITR headquarters and propose it as a possible DTM race. :lol:

Be my guest. I originally envisioned it as something the Group 5 and 6 cars of the 1980s could race on.

JeremyMcClean wrote:Good course, but too many chicanes! Here's a better solution:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5466603

And here's a 5.6km version that Formula 1 could use:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5480335
mario wrote:I'm wondering what the hell has been going on in this thread [...] it's turned into a bizarre detour into mythical flying horses and the sort of search engine results that CoopsII is going to have a very hard time explaining ...
User avatar
Captain Hammer
Posts: 3459
Joined: 30 Mar 2009, 11:10

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Captain Hammer »

More airport circuits (but not competition entries - Berlin is still my submission):

Tokyo Airport: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5480542
mario wrote:I'm wondering what the hell has been going on in this thread [...] it's turned into a bizarre detour into mythical flying horses and the sort of search engine results that CoopsII is going to have a very hard time explaining ...
User avatar
Nessafox
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 6292
Joined: 30 Nov 2009, 19:45
Location: Stupid, sexy Flanders.

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Nessafox »

I think all your tracks are boring. It might produce good racing, but they're all the same. That's why i put as many chicanes in mine as possible! :D
I don't know what i want and i want it now!
User avatar
Captain Hammer
Posts: 3459
Joined: 30 Mar 2009, 11:10

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Captain Hammer »

Chicanes are boring. Chicanes are bad. Call me old-fashioned, but I like circuits with a little bit of flow to them.
mario wrote:I'm wondering what the hell has been going on in this thread [...] it's turned into a bizarre detour into mythical flying horses and the sort of search engine results that CoopsII is going to have a very hard time explaining ...
User avatar
Nessafox
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 6292
Joined: 30 Nov 2009, 19:45
Location: Stupid, sexy Flanders.

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Nessafox »

yeah, but every track is epic, we need at least one rubbish track :evil:
I don't know what i want and i want it now!
User avatar
Captain Hammer
Posts: 3459
Joined: 30 Mar 2009, 11:10

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Captain Hammer »

Here's a few more that I have made, using RAF bases (since Silverstone was once an airfield).

RAF Northolt: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5481518

RAF Kinloss: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5481526

RAF Lyneham: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5481530

RAF Leuchars: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5481532

RAF St. Mawgam: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5481539

RAF Shawbury: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5481546

RAF Biggin Hill: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5481550

And some RAAF bases.

RAAF Amberley: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5482746

RAAF Pearce: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5482758
mario wrote:I'm wondering what the hell has been going on in this thread [...] it's turned into a bizarre detour into mythical flying horses and the sort of search engine results that CoopsII is going to have a very hard time explaining ...
User avatar
TomWazzleshaw
Posts: 14370
Joined: 01 Apr 2009, 04:42
Location: Curva do lel
Contact:

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by TomWazzleshaw »

Continuing on the good Captain's RAF theme, I bring to you RAF Mount Pleasant and RAF Ascension
Biscione wrote:"Some Turkemenistani gulag repurposed for residential use" is the best way yet I've heard to describe North / East Glasgow.
User avatar
pasta_maldonado
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 6452
Joined: 22 Apr 2012, 16:49
Location: Greater London. Sort of.

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by pasta_maldonado »

Wizzie wrote:Continuing on the good Captain's RAF theme, I bring to you RAF Mount Pleasant and RAF Ascension


THe Ascension Island track reminds me of AVUS, and a bit of Zolder
Klon wrote:more liek Nick Ass-idy amirite?
aliefbielefeld
Posts: 16
Joined: 12 Dec 2011, 17:26

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by aliefbielefeld »

purpose-built circuit in the heart of Africa

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5478807
User avatar
Ataxia
Not Important
Posts: 6869
Joined: 23 Jun 2010, 12:47
Location: Sneed's Feed & Seed (formerly Chuck's)
Contact:

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Ataxia »

The Bristol Airport Circuit: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5486402

(Kinda looks like the bastard lovechild of Phoenix and Monza)
Mitch Hedberg wrote:I want to be a race car passenger: just a guy who bugs the driver. Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Man, you really like Tide...
User avatar
dinizintheoven
Posts: 3998
Joined: 09 Dec 2010, 01:24

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by dinizintheoven »

Hmmm. East Midlands Airport is probably the most rejectful layout it's possible to design a circuit round. So I've cheated and cut across to a short public road to make an interesting circuit, rather than the AVUS clone it'd have been otherwise. Considering Donington Park is only a stone's throw away, and nobody in their right mind would not race there instead, this has "reject gold" written all over it.

Et voilà.
James Allen, on his favourite F1 engine of all time:
"...the Life W12, I can't describe the noise to you, but imagine filling your dustbin with nuts and bolts, and then throwing it down the stairs, it was something akin to that!"
User avatar
Ferrarist
Posts: 1304
Joined: 29 Mar 2010, 17:08
Location: Germany

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Ferrarist »

dinizintheoven wrote:Hmmm. East Midlands Airport is probably the most rejectful layout it's possible to design a circuit round. So I've cheated and cut across to a short public road to make an interesting circuit, rather than the AVUS clone it'd have been otherwise. Considering Donington Park is only a stone's throw away, and nobody in their right mind would not race there instead, this has "reject gold" written all over it.

Et voilà.


What is this? Pinocchio Raceway? :lol:
MIA SAN MIA!
User avatar
the Masked Lapwing
Posts: 4204
Joined: 10 Sep 2010, 09:38
Location: Oran Park Raceway

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by the Masked Lapwing »

My entry:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5486944

Several straights and only a few slow corners.
R.I.P.
GM HOLDEN
1948-2017
User avatar
Klon
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 7241
Joined: 28 Mar 2009, 17:07
Location: Schleswig-Holstein, FRG
Contact:

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Klon »

Ferrarist wrote:What is this? Pinocchio Raceway? :lol:


Or quite an artistic statement to fans doubting HRT belonging in F1. :lol:
User avatar
WeirdKerr
Posts: 1864
Joined: 05 Apr 2009, 15:57
Location: on the edge of nowhere with a ludicrous grid penalty.....

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by WeirdKerr »

Captain Hammer wrote:Here's a few more that I have made, using RAF bases (since Silverstone was once an airfield).

RAF Northolt: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5481518

RAF Kinloss: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5481526

RAF Lyneham: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5481530

RAF Leuchars: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5481532

RAF St. Mawgam: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5481539

RAF Shawbury: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5481546

RAF Biggin Hill: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5481550

And some RAAF bases.

RAAF Amberley: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5482746

RAAF Pearce: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5482758



I like the kinloss one as it's local to me (im 5 miles from there)
User avatar
Captain Hammer
Posts: 3459
Joined: 30 Mar 2009, 11:10

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Captain Hammer »

I think the perfect circuit would be a mix of several of those circuits.

Part 1 - http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5488672

Part 2 - http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5488674

Part 3 - http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5488676

And then something to connect them. I'm not entirely sure what.
mario wrote:I'm wondering what the hell has been going on in this thread [...] it's turned into a bizarre detour into mythical flying horses and the sort of search engine results that CoopsII is going to have a very hard time explaining ...
User avatar
WaffleCat
Posts: 2293
Joined: 08 Jan 2012, 13:02
Location: Singapore

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by WaffleCat »

Moving the deadline forward by an hour never hurt anybody,so here are the final submissions:

1st Track:Wizzie-http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5461594

2nd Track-tommykl:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5463569

3rd Track-Ferrarist:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5464250

4th Track-nome66:http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x246/nome66/BWIGPGPGPGP.jpg

5th Track-AndreaModa:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5464698

6th Track-Captain Hammer:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5464963

7th Track-This:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5466355

8th Track-Davidedallas:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5467404

9th Track-pasta_maldonado:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5467747

10th Track-JeremyMcClean:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5468650

11th Track-tristan117:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5478628

12th Track-UgncreativeUsergname:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5479991

13th Track-BaconLettuceNinja:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5486402

14th Track-dinizintheoven:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5486545

15th Track-the Masked Lapwing:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5486944

16th Track-dr-baker:http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5464602

Let me know if I missed any submissions or let some through that you didn't want to submit.

Voting

And so,with submissions over,you guys can now vote on which track you think is your favourite,or which one ranks with the likes of Valencia and Bahrain's endurance layout.There are two categories in voting:

1:Best Track-The track you like the most

2:Most Rejectful Track-For the sort of track you want to see mocked upon forever and ever.

You must vote for first and second in each category,not including yourself.To vote for someone,just use their username.First will get 6 points,second will get 4.An example of how to vote:

Best Track

1st:UngcreativeUsergname
2nd:Dinizintheoven

Most Rejectful Track
1st:Davidedallas
2nd:This

Anybody lost on how to vote just ask.Voting will end next Wednesday at around noon.
Last edited by WaffleCat on 01 Jun 2012, 00:26, edited 2 times in total.
My friend's USB drive spoiled, spilled tea on her laptop and had a bird poo in her hand.

What did she do in her past life to deserve this?

Signup for the Random Racing League, Season TWO!!!
User avatar
dr-baker
Posts: 15603
Joined: 29 Mar 2009, 17:30
Location: Here and there.

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by dr-baker »

WaffleCat wrote:
Let me know if I missed any submissions or let some through that you didn't want to submit.

dr-baker wrote:My first attempt is also an airport oval, at just over 2 miles long:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5464602
watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
dinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
MCard LOLA
User avatar
WaffleCat
Posts: 2293
Joined: 08 Jan 2012, 13:02
Location: Singapore

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by WaffleCat »

dr-baker wrote:
WaffleCat wrote:
Let me know if I missed any submissions or let some through that you didn't want to submit.

dr-baker wrote:My first attempt is also an airport oval, at just over 2 miles long:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5464602



Whoops.Missed that.Added that as the 16th track.
My friend's USB drive spoiled, spilled tea on her laptop and had a bird poo in her hand.

What did she do in her past life to deserve this?

Signup for the Random Racing League, Season TWO!!!
User avatar
dr-baker
Posts: 15603
Joined: 29 Mar 2009, 17:30
Location: Here and there.

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by dr-baker »

WaffleCat wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
WaffleCat wrote:
Let me know if I missed any submissions or let some through that you didn't want to submit.

dr-baker wrote:My first attempt is also an airport oval, at just over 2 miles long:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5464602



Whoops.Missed that.Added that as the 16th track.

Thank you. :)
watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
dinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
MCard LOLA
User avatar
tommykl
Posts: 7101
Joined: 07 Apr 2010, 17:10
Location: Banbury, Oxfordshire, UK

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by tommykl »

I believe you put Wizzie's track to my name ;)

Anyway:

Best track:
1. AndreaModa
2. Captain Hammer

Most rejectful track:
1. This
2. Ferrarist
kevinbotz wrote:Cantonese is a completely nonsensical f*cking alien language masquerading as some grossly bastardised form of Chinese

Gonzo wrote:Wasn't there some sort of communisim in the East part of Germany?
User avatar
AndreaModa
Posts: 5806
Joined: 30 Mar 2009, 17:51
Location: Bristol, UK

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by AndreaModa »

I won't vote for myself ;)

Best track:
1. Pasta_maldonado
2. JeremyMcClean

Most rejectful track:
1. Ferrarist
2. Dr-baker
I want my MTV...Simtek Ford

My Motorsport Photos

@DNPQ_
User avatar
FullMetalJack
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 6272
Joined: 31 Mar 2009, 15:32
Location: Some place far away. Yes, that'll do.

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by FullMetalJack »

WaffleCat wrote:Let me know if I missed any submissions


You missed mine out!



PS. dinizintheoven, is your track supposed to look like an disproportionate Vettel Finger salute?
I like the way Snrub thinks!
User avatar
Klon
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 7241
Joined: 28 Mar 2009, 17:07
Location: Schleswig-Holstein, FRG
Contact:

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Klon »

May I propose creating a new thread for this game after you are done with the vote, would help avoiding confusion between competition circuits and normal attempts.

Best Track
1st: Captain Hammer
2nd: AndreaModa

Most Rejectful Track
1st: Ferrarist
2nd: The Masked Lapwing
User avatar
UncreativeUsername37
Posts: 3420
Joined: 25 May 2012, 14:36
Location: Earth

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by UncreativeUsername37 »

I like Klon's separate thread idea, just saying.

Best track
1. Captain Hammer
2. Ferrarist

Most rejectful track
1. tristan117
2. the Masked Lapwing
Rob Dylan wrote:Mercedes paying homage to the other W12 chassis by breaking down 30 minutes in
User avatar
Ferrarist
Posts: 1304
Joined: 29 Mar 2010, 17:08
Location: Germany

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Ferrarist »

Best track
1. dr-baker
2. JeremyMcClean

Most rejectful track
1. This
2. UgncreativeUsergname

But what do you guys have against an oval on an airport. I mean, the IRL attempted to do this in Cleveland once. :lol: Nah, at least my track wins something. ;)
MIA SAN MIA!
User avatar
Aerospeed
Posts: 4948
Joined: 22 Aug 2010, 18:58
Location: In too much snow right now

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Aerospeed »

Best Track
1. The Masked Lapwing
2. Davidedallas

Most Rejectful Track
1. This
2. UgncreativeUsergname
Honourable Mentions:
Wizzie/Tommykl (They're the same!)
AndreaModa
Mistakes in potatoes will ALWAYS happen :P
Trulli bad puns...
IN JAIL NO ONE CAN HEAR YOU SCREAM
User avatar
the Masked Lapwing
Posts: 4204
Joined: 10 Sep 2010, 09:38
Location: Oran Park Raceway

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by the Masked Lapwing »

Best
1. AndreaModa
2. Captain Hammer

Worst
1. This
2. dinizintheoven
R.I.P.
GM HOLDEN
1948-2017
User avatar
WaffleCat
Posts: 2293
Joined: 08 Jan 2012, 13:02
Location: Singapore

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by WaffleCat »

I have edited in tommykl's entry,but redbulljack's entry is still not accepted,as it is essentially a street circuit near an airport.Sorry about that.
My friend's USB drive spoiled, spilled tea on her laptop and had a bird poo in her hand.

What did she do in her past life to deserve this?

Signup for the Random Racing League, Season TWO!!!
Davidellias
Posts: 68
Joined: 14 May 2012, 20:51

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by Davidellias »

Best Track
Captain Hammer
Andrea Moda

Honorable Mention (Best)
MaskedLapwig
Dinizintheoven (the One in my pants is bigger ;) )

Rejectfull track
This
BaconLettuceNinja


Honorable Mention (Reject)
Tristan117
This wrote: So they're actually time-travellers?
Jocke1 wrote: Deletraz yes. Lavaggi no.
Salamander wrote:So that's what Deletraz was doing!
Jocke1 wrote:He was trying to reach 88 miles per hour.
User avatar
tristan1117
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 3277
Joined: 28 Mar 2009, 20:55
Location: Lost in the supermarket

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by tristan1117 »

Best Track:
1. BaconLettuceNinja
2. AndreaModa

Reject Track:
1. Davidedallas
2. dinizintheoven
CoopsII wrote:On occasion I have ventured into the PMM forum but beat a hasty retreat soon after as it resembles some sort of bad acid trip in there
User avatar
RonDenisDeletraz
Posts: 7380
Joined: 27 Oct 2011, 08:21
Location: Flight 643
Contact:

Re: Reject (or not) track design.

Post by RonDenisDeletraz »

I know it is way too late for the competition but I thought I would post it anyway. It's my first gmap-pedometer track.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=5490249

EDIT: And while I still have time here is a longer version of the Adelaide Street Circuit

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=5490255
aerond wrote:Yes RDD, but we always knew you never had any sort of taste either :P

tommykl wrote:I have a shite car and meme sponsors, but Corrado Fabi will carry me to the promised land with the power of Lionel Richie.
Post Reply