The 2012 IndyCar Series thread

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 27 May 2012, 22:14

ADx_Wales wrote:Viva El Dario!....wait....

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/05/27/fin ... gonewsedit

Really now? Just... Wow. :lol:

Davidellias · Post by **Davidellias** » 27 May 2012, 22:19

Cynon wrote:I've been watching Indy since 1994 and I can't recall anyone (that actually had respect for their competitors) leave less than a car width when the other car was already on the inside.

Pre-94 but
Gordon Johncock?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmX08S5Pc2c

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 28 May 2012, 07:48

Poor old Taku but we wouldnt have him any other way would we?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/ ... GF20120527

Sublime_FA11C · Post by **Sublime_FA11C** » 28 May 2012, 09:07

CoopsII wrote:Poor old Taku but we wouldnt have him any other way would we?

Certainly not.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 28 May 2012, 12:07

Last few laps with Japanese commentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWDaL_6VsnI

Ross Prawn · Post by **Ross Prawn** » 28 May 2012, 16:19

Bleu wrote:Last few laps with Japanese commentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWDaL_6VsnI

I like the five seconds of slience after the crash, followed by screaming.

I was there, Taku hit the wall just in front of us. He did a great race, it was a pity. But it was obvious there was no way he was going to finish second.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 28 May 2012, 16:27

Ross Prawn wrote:
Bleu wrote:Last few laps with Japanese commentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWDaL_6VsnI

I like the five seconds of slience after the crash, followed by screaming.

I was there, Taku hit the wall just in front of us. He did a great race, it was a pity. But it was obvious there was no way he was going to finish second.

Is that JACQUES VILLENEUVE with the glasses on?

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 28 May 2012, 16:35

pasta_maldonado wrote:
Ross Prawn wrote:

Is that JACQUES VILLENEUVE with the glasses on?

That was my first thought!

Sublime_FA11C · Post by **Sublime_FA11C** » 28 May 2012, 17:56

Not with that much hair. And where's the guitar?

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 28 May 2012, 18:35

i think after so many times of going toe to toe with dario, Sato figured win or crash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I0RGpmyDkw

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 30 May 2012, 16:21

To me,it looked like Dario clearly closed the door on Sato hard.Sato was indeed challenging Franchitti very hard but I feel Dario could have left more room and still block Sato.

Sublime_FA11C · Post by **Sublime_FA11C** » 30 May 2012, 16:29

Franchitti risked his own position with the move on Sato. Though legitimate, they could have both ended up in the wall. Dario must have known this, although it's a split second thing so who knows.

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 30 May 2012, 17:01

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99999

Dixon and Kanaan say Taku was too bold. MMMMHMMMM

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 30 May 2012, 19:08

golic_2004 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99999

Dixon and Kanaan say Taku was too bold. MMMMHMMMM

It's the last lap of the Indy 500, and it's Takuma Sato, what do they expect?

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 30 May 2012, 19:59

Davidellias wrote:
Cynon wrote:I've been watching Indy since 1994 and I can't recall anyone (that actually had respect for their competitors) leave less than a car width when the other car was already on the inside.

Pre-94 but
Gordon Johncock?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmX08S5Pc2c

I didn't count that because it looked like Gordy gave Mears more space than Franchitti gave Sato. Either way it's the last lap of the Indy 500 so in retrospect it's the only one of Dario's cheap shots that I probably would have done as well.

Post by **Londoner** » 30 May 2012, 21:40

The Mayor of Hinchtown gives his excuses

Can't really see his argument here. It's the last few laps of the biggest open-wheel race in America. Drivers are gonna try and do everything that they can up to the very limit of the rules and regulations to gain an advantage here.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 30 May 2012, 23:24

Sublime_FA11C wrote:Franchitti risked his own position with the move on Sato. Though legitimate, they could have both ended up in the wall. Dario must have known this, although it's a split second thing so who knows.

sato should have pulled inside before the entry, then whip to the outside like a juke in american football.
then pull to the inside again in the chute between 1 and 2, then block dario all the way down the back straight.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 31 May 2012, 00:04

golic_2004 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99999

Dixon and Kanaan say Taku was too bold. MMMMHMMMM

I'm telling ya there is a conspiracy going with these guys. This is what we call a cover-up.

Davidellias · Post by **Davidellias** » 31 May 2012, 01:21

Cynon wrote:
Davidellias wrote:
Cynon wrote:I've been watching Indy since 1994 and I can't recall anyone (that actually had respect for their competitors) leave less than a car width when the other car was already on the inside.

Pre-94 but
Gordon Johncock?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmX08S5Pc2c

I didn't count that because it looked like Gordy gave Mears more space than Franchitti gave Sato.

actually no, the only reason Gordy pulled that off is cause there was an Apron, an Apron Takuma Sato didn't have. If Sato did have it I suspect a repeat of 1989 would have taken place. don't blame Dario, blame the track.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 31 May 2012, 01:26

Barrichello announced the Indy 500 rookie of the year.

F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 31 May 2012, 04:30

I'm still upset Sato didn't win. :cry:

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 31 May 2012, 04:38

F1000X wrote:I'm still upset Sato didn't win.

So am I, and probably a lot of other people here as well.

Ross Prawn · Post by **Ross Prawn** » 31 May 2012, 07:06

WaffleCat wrote:To me,it looked like Dario clearly closed the door on Sato hard.Sato was indeed challenging Franchitti very hard but I feel Dario could have left more room and still block Sato.

Thats what the crowd at Turn 1 thought. Everyone was booing when Dario won.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 31 May 2012, 07:16

Ross Prawn wrote:
WaffleCat wrote:To me,it looked like Dario clearly closed the door on Sato hard.Sato was indeed challenging Franchitti very hard but I feel Dario could have left more room and still block Sato.

Thats what the crowd at Turn 1 thought. Everyone was booing when Dario won.

Good. As one of the drivers so concerned with safety after Wheldons accident you'd have thought he'd have more sense than to cause one.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 01 Jun 2012, 03:55

CoopsII wrote:
Ross Prawn wrote:
WaffleCat wrote:To me,it looked like Dario clearly closed the door on Sato hard.Sato was indeed challenging Franchitti very hard but I feel Dario could have left more room and still block Sato.

Thats what the crowd at Turn 1 thought. Everyone was booing when Dario won.

Good. As one of the drivers so concerned with safety after Wheldons accident you'd have thought he'd have more sense than to cause one.

a conspiracy i tells ya!

Post by **mario** » 01 Jun 2012, 08:08

Cynon wrote:
Davidellias wrote:
Cynon wrote:I've been watching Indy since 1994 and I can't recall anyone (that actually had respect for their competitors) leave less than a car width when the other car was already on the inside.

Pre-94 but
Gordon Johncock?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmX08S5Pc2c

I didn't count that because it looked like Gordy gave Mears more space than Franchitti gave Sato. Either way it's the last lap of the Indy 500 so in retrospect it's the only one of Dario's cheap shots that I probably would have done as well.

The other interesting part is that one of the related links to that video was this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZegezmy ... re=related where both drivers talked about that particular move. Gordon did say that, were Mears slightly further alongside him as they approached that turn, he would have yielded his position rather than risk a crash - whether Dario would have been prepared to do that is open to interpretation.

Sublime_FA11C · Post by **Sublime_FA11C** » 01 Jun 2012, 08:18

eurobrun wrote:Barrichello announced the Indy 500 rookie of the year.

Button has to be the craziest bastard at F1slate :lol:

aliefbielefeld · Post by **aliefbielefeld** » 02 Jun 2012, 10:51

Evil Dario Franchitti hated him so much

Post by **Londoner** » 02 Jun 2012, 10:58

Sublime_FA11C wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Barrichello announced the Indy 500 rookie of the year.

Button has to be the craziest bastard at F1slate

Cough Johnny Herbert, cough. :lol:

Sublime_FA11C · Post by **Sublime_FA11C** » 02 Jun 2012, 16:03

East Londoner wrote:
Sublime_FA11C wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Barrichello announced the Indy 500 rookie of the year.

Button has to be the craziest bastard at F1slate

Cough Johnny Herbert, cough.

You got me there. I had a different kind of "crazy" in mind though. A sexualy threatening kind...

Post by **Londoner** » 03 Jun 2012, 20:46

I'm seeing on Twitter that the Detroit track is falling apart as they race. Oh dear me. :lol:

EDIT: And it's caused the Mayor of Hinchtown to crash out.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 03 Jun 2012, 20:55

Would be easy decision for ROTR in this race.

F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 03 Jun 2012, 20:58

.....seriously? How many days did you have to lay down some quick dry concrete. You had to go the cheap route, and look what happened. I don't know if I can blame Indycar for this, but I definitely blame the City of Detroit.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 03 Jun 2012, 21:04

F1000X wrote:.....seriously? How many days did you have to lay down some quick dry concrete. You had to go the cheap route, and look what happened. I don't know if I can blame Indycar for this, but I definitely blame the City of Detroit.

Beaux Barfield explained it perfectly; due to rain, there wasn't enough running on the track for the problem to show up.

They need to fix it with this.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 03 Jun 2012, 21:13

The track for the ROTR. nuff said.

Special mention to Dario Franchitti for destroyed Bourdais' race, Viso for your slow pace and TV Directors.

F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 03 Jun 2012, 23:08

I bathplug hate Chip Ganassi. Don't even try to tell me that restart wasn't coordinated so that Dario could time his slingshot past Power and Pagenaud. bathplug this race, I'm done.

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 04 Jun 2012, 05:52

Bleu wrote:Would be easy decision for ROTR in this race.

This makes Daytona International Speedway in 2009 look brand new.

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 04 Jun 2012, 05:54

And epic kudos to Simona on her 13th place finish AND on the lead lap.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 04 Jun 2012, 15:15

golic_2004 wrote:And epic kudos to Simona on her 13th place finish AND on the lead lap.

Yeah, I was (pleasantly) surprised to see her ahead of a number of lapped runners with her Lotus when I saw the race results just now on Autosport...

Post by **mario** » 05 Jun 2012, 18:48

dr-baker wrote:
golic_2004 wrote:And epic kudos to Simona on her 13th place finish AND on the lead lap.

Yeah, I was (pleasantly) surprised to see her ahead of a number of lapped runners with her Lotus when I saw the race results just now on Autosport...

The latest news suggests that Simona will be lucky to repeat that trick again in the next race - in fact, Simona might well be lucky if she is even allowed to race at all given that the next circuit is the Texas Motor Speedway. After the Indy 500 qualifying sessions showed that the Lotus engine was severely underpowered compared to its rivals, the race director (Beaux Barfield) has confirmed that he is prepared to prevent Simona from racing because the potential closing speed between her car and her rivals is likely to be dangerously large.

"Yes, it will [be black-flagged]," Barfield said. "We're working with Lotus to try to find some solutions to keep them on track. We're trying to be patient about it, but the reality is that Texas is a difficult place, with the way they race there, to leave somebody out on the track who is off the pace. I'd like to be sympathetic and work with them, but safety is paramount."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/100137