Martin Whitmarsh is insane

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 29 Nov 2009, 10:49

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80361
That's like the 4th publicocrapometer that someone has broke this month.

In all seriousness though considering McLaren is basically team Lewis who here thinks that this driver pairing won't blow up in Martin's face come season's end?

rffp · Post by **rffp** » 29 Nov 2009, 10:52

Is Whitmarsh insane or is Jenson a schmuck for joining McLaren?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 29 Nov 2009, 10:53

rffp wrote:Is Whitmarsh insane or is Jenson a schmuck for joining McLaren?

Answer: Both :mrgreen:

RejectSteve · Post by **RejectSteve** » 29 Nov 2009, 10:58

He's insane if he approaches James Allen's Church of Lewisteria for sponsorship.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 29 Nov 2009, 11:54

I say stainless steel privates. They could have so easily kept Kovalainen or hired a clear number 2, such as Sutil, but have decided to see if they can pair the last two (British!) world champions. It's worked in the past when they had the best car, in terms of results - although arguably it didn't work in terms of well-being inside the team, with Senna and Prost very nearly killing each other every other week.

Mind you, Whitmarsh isn't Dennis, and arguably both Lewis-2010 and Button are more grown-ups than Lewis-2007 and Alonso.

Possibly.

I mean, it could happen.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 29 Nov 2009, 12:03

CarlosFerreira wrote:
Possibly.

I mean, it could happen.

It won't though.

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 29 Nov 2009, 12:48

I think they went for Jenson because the 2010 regs won't suit Lewis. Lewis wrecks his tyres and crashes a lot in normally-fuelled situations, I think they're hedging their bets on a fast driver who can also look after the car and not panic and bin it in qualifying, or blow his tyres after one lap.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 29 Nov 2009, 13:04

fjackdaw wrote:I think they went for Jenson because the 2010 regs won't suit Lewis. Lewis wrecks his tyres and crashes a lot in normally-fuelled situations, I think they're hedging their bets on a fast driver who can also look after the car and not panic and bin it in qualifying, or blow his tyres after one lap.

On the other hand, Lewis is good at adapting to the car, while Jenson seems to only perform really well when the car underneath his is spot on. It could go either way, really.

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 29 Nov 2009, 14:49

CarlosFerreira wrote:
fjackdaw wrote:I think they went for Jenson because the 2010 regs won't suit Lewis. Lewis wrecks his tyres and crashes a lot in normally-fuelled situations, I think they're hedging their bets on a fast driver who can also look after the car and not panic and bin it in qualifying, or blow his tyres after one lap.

On the other hand, Lewis is good at adapting to the car, while Jenson seems to only perform really well when the car underneath his is spot on. It could go either way, really.

Yeah... so it seems to make sense to have two championship-winning but very different drivers to cover all eventualities. If it turns out that Lewis is all at sea, Heikki or another clear number 2 isn't going to be able to step up to the plate.

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 29 Nov 2009, 14:52

Be ironic if McLaren win the constructors title but loose the drivers title to Alonso by a point...

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 29 Nov 2009, 19:00

...and if Lewis blows the championship due to stupid driving errors in the last few races...

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 29 Nov 2009, 22:02

Driver rivalry is good...if you're an spectator. If not, you better go and buy a couple pacifiers real soon...

lostpin · Post by **lostpin** » 29 Nov 2009, 22:06

Ferrari made a mess with their driver line up for 2010, McLaren simply doesn't want to lag behind...

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 29 Nov 2009, 22:08

lostpin wrote:Ferrari made a mess with their driver line up for 2010, McLaren simply doesn't want to lag behind...

Let's see what Mercedes has to offer then...

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 29 Nov 2009, 22:09

Phoenix wrote:Let's see what Mercedes has to offer then...

Rosberg + other.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 29 Nov 2009, 22:10

shinji wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Let's see what Mercedes has to offer then...

Rosberg + other.

Has Rosberg any enemies, BTW? :?:

watka · Post by **watka** » 29 Nov 2009, 23:34

The McLaren and Ferrari pairings will certainly end up taking points off each other, and if Mercedes gets Kubica (which I suspect they will), the same will happen there. Vettel must be fancying his chances...

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 30 Nov 2009, 05:13

Phoenix wrote:
shinji wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Let's see what Mercedes has to offer then...

Rosberg + other.

Has Rosberg any enemies, BTW?

KazNak?

kowalski · Post by **kowalski** » 01 Dec 2009, 15:28

watka wrote:The McLaren and Ferrari pairings will certainly end up taking points off each other, and if Mercedes gets Kubica (which I suspect they will), the same will happen there. Vettel must be fancying his chances...

blimey, i'm suprised no-one picked you up on that....

i thought we where all webber lovers on here? (it's in the terms and conditions when you signed up...)

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 01 Dec 2009, 21:47

kowalski wrote:
watka wrote:The McLaren and Ferrari pairings will certainly end up taking points off each other, and if Mercedes gets Kubica (which I suspect they will), the same will happen there. Vettel must be fancying his chances...

blimey, i'm suprised no-one picked you up on that....

i thought we where all webber lovers on here? (it's in the terms and conditions when you signed up...)

... yet somehow, I moderate.

kowalski · Post by **kowalski** » 02 Dec 2009, 09:12

thehemogoblin wrote:
kowalski wrote:
watka wrote:The McLaren and Ferrari pairings will certainly end up taking points off each other, and if Mercedes gets Kubica (which I suspect they will), the same will happen there. Vettel must be fancying his chances...

blimey, i'm suprised no-one picked you up on that....

i thought we where all webber lovers on here? (it's in the terms and conditions when you signed up...)

... yet somehow, I moderate.

you will have to start editing yourself if you are going to be dissing the webber....

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 02 Dec 2009, 09:39

kowalski wrote:you will have to start editing yourself if you are going to be dissing the webber....

I avoid talking about the Webber.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 02 Dec 2009, 09:43

kowalski wrote:
thehemogoblin wrote:
kowalski wrote:
blimey, i'm suprised no-one picked you up on that....

i thought we where all webber lovers on here? (it's in the terms and conditions when you signed up...)

... yet somehow, I moderate.

you will have to start editing yourself if you are going to be dissing the webber....

I've got an eye on him, just in case.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 02 Dec 2009, 09:53

Carlos, we're kind of like East German border guards. We moderate in tandem, so that if one of us strays off, the other one can use the Australian-provided high-powered artillery to make sure that they don't get too far.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 02 Dec 2009, 11:34

thehemogoblin wrote:Carlos, we're kind of like East German border guards. We moderate in tandem, so that if one of us strays off, the other one can use the Australian-provided high-powered artillery to make sure that they don't get too far.

I thought it was like the Wild West, where an equilibrium was established although the State itself couldn't force the obedience of the law. With Oz-supplied Colt Pattons.

Back on topic: McLaren says they're going bonkers with the new car and that - get this - both they're drivers have very neutral driving styles.

"We're lucky in that Lewis and Jenson both have fairly neutral driving styles – as does Pedro – so it's unlikely to be a problem for us next year," he said.

Source: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80369

Have they seen any of Hamilton's races, lately? In the last, I don't know, 3 years?

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 02 Dec 2009, 20:43

Carlos, maybe the McLaren was just insanely aggressive.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 02 Dec 2009, 22:42

thehemogoblin wrote:Carlos, maybe the McLaren was just insanely aggressive.

Wonder about that. Lewis seems very hard on the material, to be honest. That's one of the reasons why I find him particularly interesting to watch.

Many Blue Flags · Post by **Many Blue Flags** » 05 Dec 2009, 10:39

Phoenix wrote:
shinji wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Let's see what Mercedes has to offer then...

Rosberg + other.

Has Rosberg any enemies, BTW?

Kovalainen

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