Silverstone YDT prospective lineup

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 04 May 2013, 05:50

Last year, the Young Drivers' Test happened triphasically. This year, it is going to be held only once, and is set to be held at Silverstone in July. Although I'm personally not sure whether it will help(rain is a BIG spoilsport in England, also the positioning of the Test in the middle of the year might lead to teams trying to get in as much in-season testing as possible) it is still going to be a matter of interest as to who fields whom.

Here's my prediction, some are based on reason, some on pure hope.

RED BULL: Antonio Felix da Costa, Mitch Evans
FERRARI: Raffaele Marciello, Davide Rigon
McLAREN: Kevin Magnussen, Stoffel Vandoorne, Gary Paffett.
LOTUS: Davide Valsecchi, Marco Sorensen.
MERCEDES: Sam Bird, Brendon Hartley.
SAUBER: Robin Frijns, Fabio Leimer
FORCE INDIA: James Calado, Luiz Razia
WILLIAMS: Arthur Pic, Daniel Juncadella
TORO ROSSO: Johnny Cecotto Jr, Carlos Sainz Jr.
CATERHAM: Alexander Rossi, Ma Qinghua
MARUSSIA: Felipe Nasr, Rodolfo Gonzalez

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 04 May 2013, 06:48

wsrgo wrote:Stoffel Vandoorne

Surely one of the top 10 motorsport names of all time.

Paffett again? For him this is more like a MLCDT. Mid-Life Crisis Drivers Test.
But it's never too late, Damon Hill was exactly Paffett's age now, when he raced his first full season of F1.
Go Gary!

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 04 May 2013, 13:04

Jocke1 wrote:
wsrgo wrote:Stoffel Vandoorne

Surely one of the top 10 motorsport names of all time.

Paffett again? For him this is more like a MLCDT. Mid-Life Crisis Drivers Test.
But it's never too late, Damon Hill was exactly Paffett's age now, when he raced his first full season of F1.
Go Gary!

Pérez causes a stupid pileup at Monaco, he gets a one-race ban, and Paffett gets subbed in. Also, Bianchi gets 10th due to the pileup.

I can dream.

Divina_Galica · Post by **Divina_Galica** » 04 May 2013, 20:24

I thought about going to the 2012 Silverstone YDT but only 4 drivers running put me off.

Hopefully Auto Moto und Sport is correct and it will involve all 11 teams at Silverstone 17-19 July.

Other names to throw in:

McLaren: Oliver Turvey
Force India: James Rossiter (again?)
Williams: Suzie Stoddart
Ferrari or Lotus: James Calado??

DG

Hound55 · Post by **Hound55** » 05 May 2013, 03:43

Nasr in the Marussia? That would make me quite the happy camper

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 05 May 2013, 10:08

The battle at the YDT I'm most looking forward to is da Costa (RBR) vs Marciello (Ferrari). I think several years from now we'll be talking about these two in the same way we talk about Vettel vs Alonso.

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 05 May 2013, 10:28

Jocke1 wrote:
wsrgo wrote:Stoffel Vandoorne

Surely one of the top 10 motorsport names of all time.

Now that is a sig quote!

Hound55 wrote:Nasr in the Marussia? That would make me quite the happy camper

I'm happy he is in a F1 car because he is in my opinion an up and coming talent.

Backmarker · Post by **Backmarker** » 09 May 2013, 11:43

I would say:

Red Bull/Toro Rosso

Antonio Felix da Costa is a given for a run in Red Bull. Provided they're all with the team come the YDT, Daniil Kvyat, Carlos Sainz, Jr. and Tom Blomqvist all have a look in at Red Bull or sister team Toro Rosso.

Ferrari

Raffaele Marciello is the only Ferrari Driver Academy driver in with a chance at a YDT, so Davide Rigon will probably get a Gary Paffett run.

McLaren

Given their habit of using YDTs as normal tests, Garry Paffett and Oliver Turvey are most likely, with Kevin Magnussen and Stoffel Vandoorne also in with a shout.

Enstone

Davide Valsecchi seems a shoe-in, given his role as test driver. Behind him there's Marco Sorensen and Marlon Stockinger.

Mercedes

Sam Bird and Brendon Hartley.

Sauber

Robin Frijns is the obvious one. Fabio Leimer fits thanks to Swiss-ness.

Force India

James Rossiter is possible, thanks to his role as test driver. Given Force India's precarious finances, I would say whoever has the deepest pockets. Looking at GP2, I would say that would be Johnny Cecotto, Jr. and Julian Leal or Simon Trummer.

Williams

Susie Wolff for one. With Bottas now in a race seat, I think someone like James Calado or Daniel Abt - Abt has the deeper pockets.

Caterham

Alexander Rossi and Ma Qinghua.

Marussia

Now a Ferrari junior team (probably) but without a viable Ferrari junior to test, the seat will go to the person able to pay the most. Rodolfo Gonzalez already has one tied up. Maybe Tio Ellinas will get in, thanks to the GP3 link.

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 09 May 2013, 13:49

Backmarker wrote:I would say:

Red Bull/Toro Rosso

Antonio Felix da Costa is a given for a run in Red Bull. Provided they're all with the team come the YDT, Daniil Kvyat, Carlos Sainz, Jr. and Tom Blomqvist all have a look in at Red Bull or sister team Toro Rosso.

Ferrari

Raffaele Marciello is the only Ferrari Driver Academy driver in with a chance at a YDT, so Davide Rigon will probably get a Gary Paffett run.

McLaren

Given their habit of using YDTs as normal tests, Garry Paffett and Oliver Turvey are most likely, with Kevin Magnussen and Stoffel Vandoorne also in with a shout.

Enstone

Davide Valsecchi seems a shoe-in, given his role as test driver. Behind him there's Marco Sorensen and Marlon Stockinger.

Mercedes

Sam Bird and Brendon Hartley.

Sauber

Robin Frijns is the obvious one. Fabio Leimer fits thanks to Swiss-ness.

Force India

James Rossiter is possible, thanks to his role as test driver. Given Force India's precarious finances, I would say whoever has the deepest pockets. Looking at GP2, I would say that would be Johnny Cecotto, Jr. and Julian Leal or Simon Trummer.

Williams

Susie Wolff for one. With Bottas now in a race seat, I think someone like James Calado or Daniel Abt - Abt has the deeper pockets.

Caterham

Alexander Rossi and Ma Qinghua.

Marussia

Now a Ferrari junior team (probably) but without a viable Ferrari junior to test, the seat will go to the person able to pay the most. Rodolfo Gonzalez already has one tied up. Maybe Tio Ellinas will get in, thanks to the GP3 link.

I think one of the Arden non-Red Bull guys(like Mitch Evans) will get a run for Red Bull/Toro Rosso. Remember Razia last year?

I've also heard that Razia is close to getting a run in the YDT with Force India.

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 12 Jun 2013, 07:41

No news of the line-up yet, but the Silverstone YDT date has been fixed. It will take place from 17th to 19th July.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 12 Jun 2013, 11:27

I wonder if they'll open it up to spectators this year?

AustralianStig · Post by **AustralianStig** » 12 Jun 2013, 12:10

According to Twitter they won't be:

https://twitter.com/WilliamEslerF1/stat ... 5406494720

Backmarker · Post by **Backmarker** » 12 Jun 2013, 12:33

AustralianStig wrote:According to Twitter they won't be:

https://twitter.com/WilliamEslerF1/stat ... 5406494720

That's not what Silverstone say: https://twitter.com/SilverstoneUK/status/344477038184382465

Divina_Galica · Post by **Divina_Galica** » 12 Jun 2013, 14:23

I contacted Silverstone today asking about potential prices for admission and they said at the moment it was assumed to be a closed test with no spectators.

I would advise anyone interested in attending to contact them and at least show that there is interest and tehre is potential income for the circuit. Barcelona charged 15 Euros a day I think, and it all helps keep Bernie in jets....

DG

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 18 Jun 2013, 12:06

Divina_Galica wrote:I contacted Silverstone today asking about potential prices for admission and they said at the moment it was assumed to be a closed test with no spectators.

I would advise anyone interested in attending to contact them and at least show that there is interest and tehre is potential income for the circuit. Barcelona charged 15 Euros a day I think, and it all helps keep Bernie in jets....

DG

I got the same thing from Silverstone this morning. Crap. I wanted to go.

Post by **mario** » 18 Jun 2013, 12:13

Faustus wrote:
Divina_Galica wrote:I contacted Silverstone today asking about potential prices for admission and they said at the moment it was assumed to be a closed test with no spectators.

I would advise anyone interested in attending to contact them and at least show that there is interest and tehre is potential income for the circuit. Barcelona charged 15 Euros a day I think, and it all helps keep Bernie in jets....

DG

I got the same thing from Silverstone this morning. Crap. I wanted to go.

I wonder if it is perhaps down to some of the teams being keen to avoid photographers taking shots of the cars in action? A few teams have used the Young Driver tests in the past as an impromptu mid season test session to try out new bits of bodywork, so perhaps they don't want too many photos of upgraded components leaking onto the internet too quickly.

Divina_Galica · Post by **Divina_Galica** » 18 Jun 2013, 15:58

mario wrote:
Faustus wrote:
Divina_Galica wrote:I contacted Silverstone today asking about potential prices for admission and they said at the moment it was assumed to be a closed test with no spectators.

I would advise anyone interested in attending to contact them and at least show that there is interest and tehre is potential income for the circuit. Barcelona charged 15 Euros a day I think, and it all helps keep Bernie in jets....

DG

I got the same thing from Silverstone this morning. Crap. I wanted to go.

I wonder if it is perhaps down to some of the teams being keen to avoid photographers taking shots of the cars in action? A few teams have used the Young Driver tests in the past as an impromptu mid season test session to try out new bits of bodywork, so perhaps they don't want too many photos of upgraded components leaking onto the internet too quickly.

Not really - it is the other teams who are interested in what rival cars are doing development-wise and they will all be there at the circuit. Press and photographers will undoubtably be there so plenty opportunities for reviewing the cars.

I would guess that the descision will be a cost/health and safety issue. If they let spectators in then they will have to employ a certain number of staff, pay for indemnity insurance, and have to consider things like traffic/catering/toilets etc etc. Of course we all know that anyone could go to the Barcelona tests (for €15 I think) but everything has to be gold-plated here doesn't it? :oops:

DG

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 18 Jun 2013, 21:53

Can't remember where I read it, but I'm sure that I read that Bernie would be involved in promoting tests as well as the races, and therefore if an entrance fee is charged, some of it would end up lining his pocket. Possibly?

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 19 Jun 2013, 08:02

dr-baker wrote:Can't remember where I read it, but I'm sure that I read that Bernie would be involved in promoting tests as well as the races, and therefore if an entrance fee is charged, some of it would end up lining his pocket. Possibly?

Nowadays everything is linked with Bernie's pocket. At this rate, all the currencies that are printed will end up in EEP (Ecclestone's elastic pocket)..

Poor Lucy Locket...

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 25 Jun 2013, 20:13

Given that this has kinda become the general YDT discussion thread, heres an interesting tit-bit I saw on F1 Fanatic

F1 Fanatic, having nicked it from The Telegraph, wrote:“Red Bull executives are considering boycotting the young drivers’ test to set up their own private session in a mirror of the Mercedes case. A private test would breach the FIA rule book but Red Bull are said to have told [Bernie] Ecclestone that they would take the risk of a reprimand – the punishment meted out to Mercedes – for the benefit of three days of testing.”

If thats true, they really are going for the popularity award now..

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 25 Jun 2013, 20:14

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Given that this has kinda become the general YDT discussion thread, heres an interesting tit-bit I saw on F1 Fanatic

F1 Fanatic, having nicked it from The Telegraph, wrote:“Red Bull executives are considering boycotting the young drivers’ test to set up their own private session in a mirror of the Mercedes case. A private test would breach the FIA rule book but Red Bull are said to have told [Bernie] Ecclestone that they would take the risk of a reprimand – the punishment meted out to Mercedes – for the benefit of three days of testing.”

If thats true, they really are going for the popularity award now..

Marko's already come out and said that was a joke. They may not have been serious, but talk about throwing your toys out of the pram. :roll:

Post by **mario** » 25 Jun 2013, 20:31

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:Given that this has kinda become the general YDT discussion thread, heres an interesting tit-bit I saw on F1 Fanatic

F1 Fanatic, having nicked it from The Telegraph, wrote:“Red Bull executives are considering boycotting the young drivers’ test to set up their own private session in a mirror of the Mercedes case. A private test would breach the FIA rule book but Red Bull are said to have told [Bernie] Ecclestone that they would take the risk of a reprimand – the punishment meted out to Mercedes – for the benefit of three days of testing.”

If thats true, they really are going for the popularity award now..

Marko's already come out and said that was a joke. They may not have been serious, but talk about throwing your toys out of the pram.

Did he indicate that he himself was joking around, or was he implying that the claims by The Times were utterly laughable?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 25 Jun 2013, 20:35

mario wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Marko's already come out and said that was a joke. They may not have been serious, but talk about throwing your toys out of the pram.

Did he indicate that he himself was joking around, or was he implying that the claims by The Times were utterly laughable?

The former.

Post by **Ataxia** » 25 Jun 2013, 21:03

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
mario wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Marko's already come out and said that was a joke. They may not have been serious, but talk about throwing your toys out of the pram.

Did he indicate that he himself was joking around, or was he implying that the claims by The Times were utterly laughable?

The former.

Dr. Marko's got a very "special" sense of humour, in that case...

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 25 Jun 2013, 21:10

Ataxia wrote:Dr. Marko's got a very "special" sense of humour, in that case...

So it's basically like this?

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 25 Jun 2013, 21:13

Klon wrote:
Ataxia wrote:Dr. Marko's got a very "special" sense of humour, in that case...

http://i.imgur.com/KqS67.jpg

Strong language, there... :!:

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 25 Jun 2013, 23:12

Be careful, Klon. There are young people here. We don't need you doing that on this "family friendly" forum!

Post by **Ataxia** » 25 Jun 2013, 23:23

go_Rubens wrote:Be careful, Klon. There are young people here. We don't need you doing that on this "family friendly" forum!

Woah, just a little bit of an over-reaction there...if you're not old enough to be around these words then you're not old enough to be on the internet, in my opinion.

It was far more relevant than some of the stuff posted here, anyway.

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 25 Jun 2013, 23:28

Ataxia wrote:
go_Rubens wrote:Be careful, Klon. There are young people here. We don't need you doing that on this "family friendly" forum!

Woah, just a little bit of an over-reaction there...if you're not old enough to be around these words then you're not old enough to be on the internet, in my opinion.

This. I've seen way, waaaay wore things than this. (Plus it was funny. :lol:

)

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 25 Jun 2013, 23:54

Ataxia wrote:
go_Rubens wrote:Be careful, Klon. There are young people here. We don't need you doing that on this "family friendly" forum!

Woah, just a little bit of an over-reaction there...if you're not old enough to be around these words then you're not old enough to be on the internet, in my opinion.

It was far more relevant than some of the stuff posted here, anyway.

Then why is wmetcalf on this forum, may I ask? I believe he's only 10...

Plus, my parents don't mind that much. Quite disturbing, I'd say

Post by **Nuppiz** » 26 Jun 2013, 08:03

go_Rubens wrote:
Ataxia wrote:
go_Rubens wrote:Be careful, Klon. There are young people here. We don't need you doing that on this "family friendly" forum!

Woah, just a little bit of an over-reaction there...if you're not old enough to be around these words then you're not old enough to be on the internet, in my opinion.

It was far more relevant than some of the stuff posted here, anyway.

Then why is wmetcalf on this forum, may I ask? I believe he's only 10...

Plus, my parents don't mind that much. Quite disturbing, I'd say

While I'm not bothered by curse words, I think it's a general principle not to allow them here. Klon already edited his post to have a link instead of an image, and I've done the same to good_Ralf's post where he quoted it.

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 28 Jun 2013, 08:07

Red Bull have confirmed that Antonio Felix da Costa and Carlos Sainz, Jr. will be doing the YDT for them.

http://www.f1zone.net/news/da-costa-and ... est/19505/

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 29 Jun 2013, 01:54

wsrgo wrote:Red Bull have confirmed that Antonio Felix da Costa and Carlos Sainz, Jr. will be doing the YDT for them.

http://www.f1zone.net/news/da-costa-and ... est/19505/

This is not an unpopular opinion. I think Antonio Felix da Costa is a future world champion.

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 29 Jun 2013, 05:28

go_Rubens wrote:
wsrgo wrote:Red Bull have confirmed that Antonio Felix da Costa and Carlos Sainz, Jr. will be doing the YDT for them.

http://www.f1zone.net/news/da-costa-and ... est/19505/

This is not an unpopular opinion. I think Antonio Felix da Costa is a future world champion.

But Vandoorne..

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 29 Jun 2013, 05:40

wsrgo wrote:
go_Rubens wrote:
wsrgo wrote:Red Bull have confirmed that Antonio Felix da Costa and Carlos Sainz, Jr. will be doing the YDT for them.

http://www.f1zone.net/news/da-costa-and ... est/19505/

This is not an unpopular opinion. I think Antonio Felix da Costa is a future world champion.

But Vandoorne..

And Kevin Magnussen... and Robin Frijns...

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 01 Jul 2013, 11:06

The test is open to the public. Tickes to go on sale soon so contact Silverstone for prices.

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 01 Jul 2013, 11:10

AdrianSutil wrote:The test is open to the public. Tickes to go on sale soon so contact Silverstone for prices.

Are you sure? So they've changed their mind? Sweet! Definitely up for this one. Anyone else fancy it?

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 01 Jul 2013, 15:35

Faustus wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:The test is open to the public. Tickes to go on sale soon so contact Silverstone for prices.

Are you sure? So they've changed their mind? Sweet! Definitely up for this one. Anyone else fancy it?

Jon Noble on twitter confirmed it. But check with them first just to make sure.

I can't make it I'm afraid.

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 01 Jul 2013, 15:41

AdrianSutil wrote:I can't make it I'm afraid.

Boooo!

Post by **Londoner** » 01 Jul 2013, 19:14

Theoretically, it's no longer a Young Drivers Test anymore.