F1 Alternativ: season 1990

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 22 Jul 2013, 17:18

Hey,
i will start a new alternative F1 game which starts in 1990.
All Teams will take part except Life(they are too slow to simulate :lol:

)
You can now sign up.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 22 Jul 2013, 17:29

A'ight, sign me up with McLaren.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 22 Jul 2013, 17:30

No Life F1 team in 1990? Blasphemy.

Do we just pick our teams now? I'd like Minardi please.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 22 Jul 2013, 17:31

I am going try to save Brabham.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 22 Jul 2013, 17:32

Ah, hell, why not. Sign me up for Williams.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 22 Jul 2013, 17:34

How exactly are you simulating this?

I'll take Benetton btw

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 22 Jul 2013, 17:44

Hey,
for the moment please just select your team.
Later i'll post a list with available engines for which you have to bid. Same with drivers.
I'll post the neccesary information later

.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 22 Jul 2013, 17:47

takagi_for_the_win wrote:How exactly are you simulating this?

It will be a mixture of an excel spreedsheet which i created(lots of work) and xkoronate, but the funny things will happen in the spreedsheed

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 22 Jul 2013, 17:47

No one has chosen Ferrari? I'm there Sign me up for Ferrari Please

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 22 Jul 2013, 17:51

I'll take Leyton House.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 22 Jul 2013, 17:53

I'm going for broke with Onyx.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 22 Jul 2013, 17:55

Go on ill take Tyrrell.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 22 Jul 2013, 17:59

Larrousse please.

The Lukas · Post by **The Lukas** » 22 Jul 2013, 18:14

Go on ill take Coloni!

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 22 Jul 2013, 18:20

I'll enter with Dallara Scuderia Italia

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 22 Jul 2013, 18:22

I'll take Lotus, if that's okay

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 22 Jul 2013, 18:22

I take Ligier.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 22 Jul 2013, 18:31

Arrows is for me, is it okay?

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 22 Jul 2013, 18:32

Wow this is popular, 15 teams taken already in the space of a couple of hours.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 22 Jul 2013, 18:34

Only Osella AGS Eurobrun and Lola remain

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 22 Jul 2013, 18:43

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Only Osella AGS Eurobrun and Lola remain

Sorry, but Lola and Larrousse are the same thing.
So only Osella, AGS and Eurobrun are left.

PS: In a few minutes i'll post more information on the engine bid round

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 22 Jul 2013, 18:45

Hermann95 wrote:
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Only Osella AGS Eurobrun and Lola remain

Sorry, but Lola and Larrousse are the same thing.
So only Osella, AGS and Eurobrun are left.

PS: In a few minutes i'll post more information on the engine bid round

Oh Shizuka got Larrousse. Who's going to step into the abyss with the 3 remaining teams?

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 22 Jul 2013, 18:48

Oh Shizuka got Larrousse. Who's going to step into the abyss with the 3 remaining teams?

Hopefully the will be taken sonn

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 22 Jul 2013, 18:50

Samster wrote:Wow this is popular, 15 teams taken already in the space of a couple of hours.

1990 was one of those years where you could look at any side of the grid and have fun. Each chassis were different for the other, 6 engines from V8 to V12. The real deal of F1, without so much politics and gates.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:10

Hey,
So the first step of this season is nearly done, only 3 teams left.

Engines
In this Round you will have to bid for the engines i'll list later in this post.
Each team owner should bid for 3-4 engines in order of preferences. The higher you bid the higher is the chance to take the engine home.
You can send a PM or just write a post here.

1. Engine :
Honda very powerfull, updates for free, 15m$, 1 Team

Ferraripowerfull, updates for free, will be the Engine for Ferrari

Ford('90 spec)powerfull new engine generation, updates for free, 10m$, 1Team

Renault proven and competative race engine, updates will cost 1m$ per update, 12m$, 2Teams

Ford('89 spec) old but proven engine, not very powerfull, no updates, 3m$, Unlimited amount of Teams

Lamborghini mid-powerfull engine,updates will cost 1.5m$,5m$, 2teams

Judd"engine for the midfielders", 1 Team will recieve free updates, for the other teams 1.5m$ per update, 6m$, 3 Teams

Subaru not that powerfull....,no updates, 1.5m$, 1 Team

So, good luck

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:12

How much money does each team have?

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:14

pasta_maldonado wrote:How much money does each team have?

Oh yeah i forgott......
Ferrari 45m$
Tyrell 25m$
Williams 40m$
Brabham 15m$
Footwork Arrows 15m$
Lotus 18m$
Osella 9m$
Leyton House 20m$
AGS 10m$
Benneton 30m$
BMS-Dallara 9m$
Minardi 12m$
Ligier 13m$
Meclaren 50m$
Larrousse 20m$
Coloni 7m$
Euro Brun 8m$
Onyx 10m$

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:18

Well, then let's try our best.

Brabham's engine choices in order:
a) Renault
b) Ford ('89 spec)
c) Lamborghini
d) Subaru

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:21

Onyx's choices are:

Lamborghini
Judd
Ford '89

In this reality, Van Rossem does not leave the team, at least for few races, so Moneytron is still with us

Also, the budgets for everyone looks thin by the engine fees. And I don't think Ferrari engine should be made exclusively to Ferrari only (I think Flaschenpost did not make the Ferrari engines exclusive).

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:23

Ligier's choices
a) Ford 89
b) Judd
c) Lamborghini

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:24

Ferrari's engines

Ferrari
Ferrari
Ferrari

Am I doing this right?

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:24

Lotus' choices:

1) Judd
2) Lamborghini
3) Renault

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:26

SeedStriker wrote:
Samster wrote:Wow this is popular, 15 teams taken already in the space of a couple of hours.

1990 was one of those years where you could look at any side of the grid and have fun. Each chassis were different for the other, 6 engines from V8 to V12. The real deal of F1, without so much politics and gates.

I've recognized a series of season which are classics. In the modern era, they are 1990, 1997, 1999, 2003, 2008 and 2012. As for the former, 1990 was a good season because of the close championship battle between Senna and Prost, before it ended spectacularly and prematurely at Suzuka.
The other main reason why 1990 was a classic was because so many teams were competitive. While McLaren and Ferrari battled for the championship, the rest had their moments of glory as well.

Benetton won two races at the end of the year with Piquet and the unfortunate Nannini almost did so at the Hungaroring and especially Hockenheim, with his replacement Moreno also scoring a podium.

Williams also won two races, one each for both drivers. Patrese ended the longest victory drought ever for an F1 driver (6-7 years) at Imola and Boutsen led all the way fighting off many drivers, one at a time in Hungary.

Tyrrell had their new hero Jean Alesi on the podium twice, in Phoenix when he nearly won (again!) and in Monaco. It is disappointing how after Monaco, Alesi scored zero points and slid down the order.

Lola got Suzuki on the podium at his home race and Eric Bernard came fourth at Silverstone. Leyton House ran 1-2 in France and Capelli finished second, also challenging for a podium at Silverstone.

There are two main ingredients for a classic season of F1.

1) A close championship battle between two or three teams
2) Multiple teams battling for podiums and wins

Apologies for interference as I know I am posting this while you are all choosing engines

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:29

good_Ralf wrote:
SeedStriker wrote:
Samster wrote:Wow this is popular, 15 teams taken already in the space of a couple of hours.

1990 was one of those years where you could look at any side of the grid and have fun. Each chassis were different for the other, 6 engines from V8 to V12. The real deal of F1, without so much politics and gates.

I've recognized a series of season which are classics. In the modern era, they are 1990, 1997, 1999, 2003, 2008 and 2012. As for the former, 1990 was a good season because of the close championship battle between Senna and Prost, before it ended spectacularly and prematurely at Suzuka.
The other main reason why 1990 was a classic was because so many teams were competitive. While McLaren and Ferrari battled for the championship, the rest had their moments of glory as well.

Benetton won two races at the end of the year with Piquet and the unfortunate Nannini almost did so at the Hungaroring and especially Hockenheim, with his replacement Moreno also scoring a podium.

Williams also won two races, one each for both drivers. Patrese ended the longest victory drought ever for an F1 driver (6-7 years) at Imola and Boutsen led all the way fighting off many drivers, one at a time in Hungary.

Tyrrell had their new hero Jean Alesi on the podium twice, in Phoenix when he nearly won (again!) and in Monaco. It is disappointing how after Monaco, Alesi scored zero points and slid down the order.

Lola got Suzuki on the podium at his home race and Eric Bernard came fourth at Silverstone. Leyton House ran 1-2 in France and Capelli finished second, also challenging for a podium at Silverstone.

There are two main ingredients for a classic season of F1.

1) A close championship battle between two or three teams
2) Multiple teams battling for podiums and wins

Apologies for interference as I know I am posting this while you are all choosing engines

Why don't you join in. Their are still 3 teams avalible (Albeit Osella AGS and Eurobrun but that doesn't matter in alternative seasons)

Post by **Ataxia** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:30

May I take AGS?

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:32

Benetton hope that their long partnership with Ford will continue, allowing us to snag the 1990 Ford engines. If we can't get those, in order of preference, we'll take: Renault, Honda and Ford 89

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:33

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Ferrari's engines

Ferrari
Ford 90
Ford 89

Am I doing this right?

I think you will be locked to the Ferrari engine, Kimi

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:34

Arrows choice:

- Ford `90 - 10,5 mln
- Lamborghini - 5 mln
- Judd - 5 mln
- Ford '89 3 mln

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:34

Williams has only one engine target, and that is Renault. Considering that we had their engines in 1989 and won 2 Grands Prix, we hope that this shows that we are fully committed to a long-term relationship with Renault. Our bid will sit at $14 million.

FMecha wrote:And I don't think Ferrari engine should be made exclusively to Ferrari only (I think Flaschenpost did not make the Ferrari engines exclusive).

The works Ferrari engines were exclusive to Ferrari, yes, for obvious reasons. There was a customer Ferrari package... which Stramala was able to do some amazing things with.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 22 Jul 2013, 19:35

FMecha wrote:
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Ferrari's engines

Ferrari
Ford 90
Ford 89

Am I doing this right?

I think you will be locked to the Ferrari engine, Kimi

Sorry First Timer in alternative championships like this