F1WRCR 1953 season - Post-season prize money up!

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 24 Jul 2013, 10:47

Peter Collins (Anglo Racing Engineering) - Leader LF153 chassis 2, Jaguar JFE-2 Engine 5

All Grand Prix Sebring, although we may enter Sebring depending on how well we do and how much money we have avalaible.

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 24 Jul 2013, 11:07

Reatherson Racing Developments will continue to use Joe Kelly,but he won't enter all events....

For Belgium,France and Germany
Reatherson Racing Developments (RRD)
JOE KELLY-- Bentley Speed 3 Chassis 7, Jaguar JFE-2 Engine 6

For Monaco,Britain,Italy and Switzerland
Reatherson Racing Developments (RRD)
LANCE MACKLIN--Bentley Speed 3 Chassis 7,Jaguar JFE-2 Engine 6

Yup, if there are no objections, Lance Macklin is basically Reatherson's other driver for some events.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 24 Jul 2013, 11:11

Hold on, what chassis and engine number am I?

Post by **tommykl** » 24 Jul 2013, 11:20

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Hold on, what chassis and engine number am I?

AM53 chassis 3 and 200F engine 3. It's all on the front page

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 24 Jul 2013, 11:22

And because I can, Jaguar will build engine number 13, which should be the last one for the foreseeable future.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 24 Jul 2013, 11:29

Italian GP: Gunter Bechem: Bentley 53C #1, Aqua SAMC-1 #1'
German GP: Gunter Bechem: Bentley 53C #1, Aqua SAMC-1 #1
Swiss GP: Gunter Bechem: Bentley 53C #1, Aqua SAMC-1 #1
Monaco GP: Gunter Bechem: Bentley 53C #1, Aqua SAMC-1 #1

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 24 Jul 2013, 11:44

Alfa Romeo entries for all races:

Giuseppe Farina, AR160 1, ARV8 1;
Stirling Moss, AR160 2, ARV8 2;
Peter Whitehead, AR160 3, ARV8 3.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 24 Jul 2013, 11:45

Parnell will drive 555-1, Serafini will drive 555-2 and Fangio will drive 555-3 in all races. I'd also like to build another 550 chassis and engine as a spare.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 24 Jul 2013, 14:46

Depending on their availability, Balkan Eagle are interested in these drivers (in order of preference): Aldo Gordini, Rudi Fischer, Lance Macklin, Umberto Maglioli (debutant), Lex Davidson and Luigi Villoresi

Driver 1 (whoever he is) will drive AR 160 chassis 1 and 200F engine 9
Driver 2 (whoever he is) will drive AR 160 chassis 2 and 200F engine 8
Driver 3 (whoever he is) will drive AR 160 chassis 3 and 200F engine 7

Maybe I forgot, but both Leader and Balkan eagle are planning to participate in all races.

Post by **tommykl** » 24 Jul 2013, 14:49

pycku wrote:Depending on their availability, Balkan Eagle are interested in these drivers (in order of preference): Aldo Gordini, Rudi Fischer, Lance Macklin, Umberto Maglioli (debutant), Lex Davidson and Luigi Villoresi

Driver 1 (whoever he is) will drive AR 160 chassis 1 and 200F engine 9
Driver 2 (whoever he is) will drive AR 160 chassis 2 and 200F engine 8
Driver 3 (whoever he is) will drive AR 160 chassis 3 and 200F engine 7

Maybe I forgot, but both Leader and Balkan eagle are planning to participate in all races.

Macklin isn't available for a couple of races, but what I'll do is put Claes is the Leader and Gordini, Fischer and Maglioli in the Alfas (with Macklin when he's free). If/when one of them goes elsewhere, the next in line gets his seat. I think Claes, Gordini, Davison and maybe Fischer may have to leave at one point or another, though.

Oh, and I made a slight mistake in the first post, you've actually got chassis 4, 5 and 6

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 24 Jul 2013, 14:52

Then even better, the total number of chassis + engine will be 13

(4+9, 5+8,6+7)

Post by **tommykl** » 24 Jul 2013, 14:54

pycku wrote:Then even better, the total number of chassis + engine will be 13 (4+9, 5+8,6+7)

Ooh, superstitious, I see

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 24 Jul 2013, 15:12

ART-Gordini Race Entries - 1954:
Firstly, ART-Gordini would like to design another chassis for our third driver Aldo Gordini at selected events again.

Robert Manzon:All races with G-953 chassis number 1 and ART-004 engine number 1
Consalvo Sanesi:All races with G-953 chassis number 2 and ART-004 engine number 2
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Aldo Gordini:Monaco, France and Britain only with G-953 chassis number 3 and ART-004 engine number 3 (due to English and French owners as usual).

*Please remove our third engine from the 'up-for-sale' column, thanks.

*Attention Team Leader: You may take Aldo Gordini for your team if you wish, but WE MUST have him in our third car for the three races mentioned above. No negotiations.

Post by **tommykl** » 24 Jul 2013, 15:18

AdrianSutil wrote:ART-Gordini Race Entries - 1954:
Firstly, ART-Gordini would like to design another chassis for our third driver Aldo Gordini at selected events again.

Robert Manzon:All races with G-953 chassis number 1 and ART-004 engine number 1
Consalvo Sanesi:All races with G-953 chassis number 2 and ART-004 engine number 2
---------------------
Aldo Gordini:Monaco, France and Britain only with G-953 chassis number 3 and ART-004 engine number 3 (due to English and French owners as usual).

*Please remove our third engine from the 'up-for-sale' column, thanks.

*Attention Team Leader: You may take Aldo Gordini for your team if you wish, but WE MUST have him in our third car for the three races mentioned above. No negotiations.

Perfectly fine. Balkan Eagle, this means that the first car will be driven by Davison in Monaco and Britain, and by Maglioli in France, correct?

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 24 Jul 2013, 15:24

Okay, thats fine

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 24 Jul 2013, 15:43

Officine Alfieri Maserati for 1953

Paul Frére
Full-time Maserati AM53 chassis 1 and 200F engine 1 (Belgian GP entry in partnership with ENB)

Chico Landi
Maserati AM53 chassis 2 and 200F engine 2 at Monaco, Bremgarten and Monza

Marcel Balsa
Maserati AM53 chassis 2 and 200F engine 2 at Spa, Reims and Nurburgring

Onofre Marimón
Maserati AM53 chassis 2 and 200F engine 2 at Zandvoort, Silverstone and Sebring

Post by **Nuppiz** » 24 Jul 2013, 18:34

F. H. Warden Competition
Bentley Speed 3 chassis No. 6 - Jaguar JFE-2 engine No. 9: Ken Wharton (GBR)

We'll enter the Belgian, French, British and German GPs, with an option on the Swiss GP depending on how much budget we have left by then.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 24 Jul 2013, 19:25

Team Ultimate + Ferrari America plans.

Monaco Entry

Team Ultimate
Edgar Barth - Ultimate 002a - O.S.C.A 2

Ferrari America
Tolou de Graffenreid - Ferrari 555 (4) - Ferrari 555 (4)
Troy Ruttman - Ferrari 550 (1) - Ferrari 550 (1)
Harry Schell - Ferrari 550 (2) - Ferrari 550 (2)

With heightened tensions between East and West, Team Ultimate have decided that we need to move to West Germany, specifically Bavaria, as it seems that German reunification may be further away than originally assumed. But for all 1953 we are working from the industrial port City of Rostov (Next to Heinkel manufacturing!)

For now it is safe to say Edgar Barth will compete in every round of the 1953 season (except maybe Sebring). The Ferrari line ups, specifically who drives the 555 may be changed significantly, but considering de Graffenreids talent (he hasn't finished off the podium since Monaco 1951!) he is the obvious choice of lead man.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 24 Jul 2013, 19:49

Bentley's plans for 1953:

Monaco Grand Prix:
1: Manfred Von Brauchitisch - Speed 1 chassis 1, 163-1 engine 1
2: Geoff Richardson - Speed 1 chassis 3, 163-1 engine 3

Dutch Grand Prix
1: Manfred Von Brauchitisch - Speed 1 chassis 1, 163-1 engine 1
2: Mike Hawthorn - Speed 1 chassis 2, 163-1 engine 2

Belgian Grand Prox:
1: Geoff Richardson - Speed 1 chassis 2, 163-1 engine 3
2: Mike Hawthorn - Speed 1 chassis 3, 163-1 engine 2
3: Andre Pilette - Speed 1 chassis 1, 163-1 engine 1
4: Roy Salvadori - 53C chassis 2, 163-1 engine 5

British Grand Prix :
1: Manfred Von Brauchitisch - Speed 1 chassis 1, 163-1 engine 3
2: Mike Hawthorn - Speed 1 chassis 2, 163-1 engine 1
3: Geoff Richardson - Speed 1 chassis 3, 163-1 engine 2
4: Roy Salvadori - 53C chassis 2, 163-1 engine 5

This is by no means a complete or final schedule. I would like to know how much all of these entries will cost me.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 24 Jul 2013, 20:10

Duncan Hamilton will enter all races in his customer Maserati

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 25 Jul 2013, 00:05

Ecurie Nationale Belge wrote:May 17th - Monaco Grand Prix (Monaco)
None
June 7th - Dutch Grand Prix (Zandvoort)
Georges Berger- Maserati AM53 chassis 4 - Maserati 200F engine 4
André Pilette - Bentley Speed 3 chassis 5 - Bentley 163-1 engine 4
Jan Flinterman - Aston Martin AM-04 chassis 6 - Jaguar JFE-2 engine 7
June 21th - Belgian Grand Prix (Spa-Francorchamps)
André Milhoux - Maserati AM53 chassis 4 - Maserati 200F engine 4
Olivier Gendebien - Bentley Speed 3 chassis 5 - Bentley 163-1 engine 4
Jacques Swaters- Aston Martin AM-04 chassis 6 - Jaguar JFE-2 engine 7
July 5th - French Grand Prix (Reims-Gueux)
Roger Laurent - Maserati AM53 chassis 4 - Maserati 200F engine 4
Jacques Swaters - Bentley Speed 3 chassis 5 - Bentley 163-1 engine 4
André Pilette - Aston Martin AM-04 chassis 6 - Jaguar JFE-2 engine 7
July 12th - British Grand Prix (Silverstone)
André Pilette - Bentley Speed 3 chassis 5 - Jaguar JFE-2 engine 7
Jacques Swaters - Aston Martin AM-04 chassis 6 - Bentley 163-1 engine 4
August 2nd - German Grand Prix (Nürburgring)
Charles De Tornaco - Maserati AM53 chassis 4 - Maserati 200F engine 4
André Pilette - Bentley Speed 3 chassis 5 - Bentley 163-1 engine 4
Jacques Swaters- Aston Martin AM-04 chassis 6 - Jaguar JFE-2 engine 7
August 23rd - Swiss Grand Prix (Bremgarten)
None (could still change, should one driver or car perform very well)
September 13th - Italian Grand Prix (Monza)
André Pilette - Maserati AM53 chassis 4 - Maserati 200F engine 4
October 25th - United States Grand Prix (Sebring)
None

I hope i have the budget for this.
When Bentley wants to make use of Pilette's services, the replacement driver sequence is: De Tornaco, Laurent, Legat(comeback), Berger, Flinterman or eventually even getting Chaboud back out of retirement.
Edit: about possible Belgian drivers;
Can you tell me when these drivers can make their debut (all F1 drivers or Belgian sportscar drivers related to ENB or Ecurie Francorchamps in the end of the fifties, but i can't find much on their career before that): Alain De Changy, Christian Goethals, André Milhoux, Olivier Gendebien, Luchien Bianchi, Willy Mairesse, Gérard Langlois van Ophem, Jean Beurlys/Blaton, Claude Dubois, Freddy Rousselle, Leon Dernier, Gustave Gosselin, Pierre Dumay, George Hacquin, Pierre Noblet, George Harris, Robert Darville, Eric De Keyn. Take your time to answer this :lol:

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 25 Jul 2013, 00:50

How much for an entry again?

Also, the driver-car combos:
Maurice Trintignant - AM-04 #1, JFE-2 #1
Jose Frolian Gonzalez - AM-04 #2, JFE-2 #2
Tony Bettenhausen - AM-04 #3, JFE-2 #3

AM-04 #4 and JFE-2 #4 are spares for now.

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 25 Jul 2013, 06:26

Gunther Bechem will be driving the EMW 01 with engine 3 in Germany, France and Belgium and maybe Monaco so hope I do have enough cash.

simonracer · Post by **simonracer** » 25 Jul 2013, 12:17

Hopefully we have the cash for this.

We'll have Nello in AM53 chassis & engine #5, and Stan in AM53 chassis & engine #6, for all the races.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 25 Jul 2013, 15:07

So far, Phoenix Racing Organisation is only confirming its assistance to the first race of the season, the Monaco GP, with Alberto Ascari and PRO-4 chassis 1 with the Mercedes-Benz UM153 engine 7.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 25 Jul 2013, 18:08

Bonetto will drive the works O.S.C.A. in all GPs except Sebring, de Filippis will also run all GPs except Sebring.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 26 Jul 2013, 15:02

pi314159 wrote:Bonetto will drive the works O.S.C.A. in all GPs except Sebring, de Filippis will also run all GPs except Sebring.

Could I run de Filippis in a one-off entry at Sebing please? It'll be a spin-off from Helle Nice's one-off entry in 1950...

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 26 Jul 2013, 15:16

What are the entry and transport costs?

At present, I think Erne will enter at least 4 of the European rounds, but definitely not the Sebring race.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 26 Jul 2013, 15:29

takagi_for_the_win wrote:What are the entry and transport costs?

At present, I think Erne will enter at least 4 of the European rounds, but definitely not the Sebring race.

Transport cost are £1 per km traveled and the entry fee is £2000

Post by **tommykl** » 28 Jul 2013, 21:09

pasta_maldonado wrote:Bentley's plans for 1953:

Monaco Grand Prix:
1: Manfred Von Brauchitisch - Speed 1 chassis 1, 163-1 engine 1
2: Geoff Richardson - Speed 1 chassis 3, 163-1 engine 3

Dutch Grand Prix
1: Manfred Von Brauchitisch - Speed 1 chassis 1, 163-1 engine 1
2: Mike Hawthorn - Speed 1 chassis 2, 163-1 engine 2

Belgian Grand Prox:
1: Geoff Richardson - Speed 1 chassis 2, 163-1 engine 3
2: Mike Hawthorn - Speed 1 chassis 3, 163-1 engine 2
3: Andre Pilette - Speed 1 chassis 1, 163-1 engine 1
4: Roy Salvadori - 53C chassis 2, 163-1 engine 5

British Grand Prix :
1: Manfred Von Brauchitisch - Speed 1 chassis 1, 163-1 engine 3
2: Mike Hawthorn - Speed 1 chassis 2, 163-1 engine 1
3: Geoff Richardson - Speed 1 chassis 3, 163-1 engine 2
4: Roy Salvadori - 53C chassis 2, 163-1 engine 5

This is by no means a complete or final schedule. I would like to know how much all of these entries will cost me.

Just the entries would cost a total of £24 000, and travel costs just for Monaco would be around £2 000 depending on where the team is based.

Matt121 wrote:Gunther Bechem will be driving the EMW 01 with engine 3 in Germany, France and Belgium and maybe Monaco so hope I do have enough cash.

You have enough cash, the main problem is that Bechem is already driving for Aqua at Monaco and the Nurburgring.

This wrote:
Ecurie Nationale Belge wrote:May 17th - Monaco Grand Prix (Monaco)
None
June 7th - Dutch Grand Prix (Zandvoort)
Jacques Swaters - Maserati AM53 chassis 4 - Maserati 200F engine 4
André Pilette - Bentley Speed 3 chassis 5 - Bentley 163-1 engine 4
Jan Flinterman - Aston Martin AM-04 chassis 6 - Jaguar JFE-2 engine 7
June 21th - Belgian Grand Prix (Spa-Francorchamps)
Charles De Tornaco - Maserati AM53 chassis 4 - Maserati 200F engine 4
Georges Berger - Bentley Speed 3 chassis 5 - Bentley 163-1 engine 4
Roger Laurent - Aston Martin AM-04 chassis 6 - Jaguar JFE-2 engine 7
July 5th - French Grand Prix (Reims-Gueux)
Jacques Swaters - Maserati AM53 chassis 4 - Maserati 200F engine 4
André Pilette - Bentley Speed 3 chassis 5 - Bentley 163-1 engine 4
Roger Laurent - Aston Martin AM-04 chassis 6 - Jaguar JFE-2 engine 7
July 12th - British Grand Prix (Silverstone)
André Pilette - Bentley Speed 3 chassis 5 - Jaguar JFE-2 engine 7
Jacques Swaters - Aston Martin AM-04 chassis 6 - Bentley 163-1 engine 4
(no that's not a typo)
August 2nd - German Grand Prix (Nürburgring)
Jacques Swaters - Maserati AM53 chassis 4 - Maserati 200F engine 4
André Pilette - Bentley Speed 3 chassis 5 - Bentley 163-1 engine 4
Charles De Tornaco - Aston Martin AM-04 chassis 6 - Jaguar JFE-2 engine 7
August 23rd - Swiss Grand Prix (Bremgarten)
None (could still change, should one driver or car perform very well)
September 13th - Italian Grand Prix (Monza)
André Pilette - Maserati AM53 chassis 4 - Maserati 200F engine 4
October 25th - United States Grand Prix (Sebring)
None

I hope i have the budget for this.
When Bentley wants to make use of Pilette's services, the replacement driver sequence is: De Tornaco, Laurent, Legat(comeback), Berger, Flinterman or eventually even getting Chaboud back out of retirement.
Edit: about possible Belgian drivers;
Can you tell me when these drivers can make their debut (all F1 drivers or Belgian sportscar drivers related to ENB or Ecurie Francorchamps in the end of the fifties, but i can't find much on their career before that): Alain De Changy, Christian Goethals, André Milhoux, Olivier Gendebien, Luchien Bianchi, Willy Mairesse, Gérard Langlois van Ophem, Jean Beurlys/Blaton, Claude Dubois, Freddy Rousselle, Leon Dernier, Gustave Gosselin, Pierre Dumay, George Hacquin, Pierre Noblet, George Harris, Robert Darville, Eric De Keyn. Take your time to answer this

I'll get to that as soon as I can. I attempted to, but got logged out and lost my post. I remember that one or two of those could be available as soon as this season, but I can't remember who it was :lol:

Post by **Londoner** » 28 Jul 2013, 21:24

Hampshire Racing Alliance will contest all races apart from the season finale at Sebring.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 28 Jul 2013, 21:51

Erne will contest every race apart from the season opener in Monaco and the season finale at Sebring. How much will this cost us?

Also, as we only have one chassis and one engine, I don't think I need to say which one Mieres will be driving

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 28 Jul 2013, 22:40

Tommy, please enter the three drivers with their car/engine combos as mentioned above in all the races.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 28 Jul 2013, 23:16

tommykl wrote:Alright, so we've already got a fair number of entries, so I'm going to open up entries for individual races. You may enter any race at any time, using the following format:

Team name
DRIVER - chassis model (including number), engine model (including number)

You do not have to use this format, but all this information is needed. You do not have to provide all of it at the same time, but all of it must be stated at some point.

Before every race weekend, I'll post any loose ends that may need to be tied up. Of course, new constructors or customer teams may enter at any time.

Also, Scuderia Ambrosiana is the only current entrant without a chassis.

I thought Ambrosiana would be building their own chassis this year?

Bracco and Rubirosa will be entered for all races once again. We'd also like to run one of our 52 spec cars alongside at the Italian Grand Prix.

Post by **tommykl** » 28 Jul 2013, 23:48

Samster wrote:
tommykl wrote:Alright, so we've already got a fair number of entries, so I'm going to open up entries for individual races. You may enter any race at any time, using the following format:

Team name
DRIVER - chassis model (including number), engine model (including number)

You do not have to use this format, but all this information is needed. You do not have to provide all of it at the same time, but all of it must be stated at some point.

Before every race weekend, I'll post any loose ends that may need to be tied up. Of course, new constructors or customer teams may enter at any time.

Also, Scuderia Ambrosiana is the only current entrant without a chassis.

I thought Ambrosiana would be building their own chassis this year?

Bracco and Rubirosa will be entered for all races once again. We'd also like to run one of our 52 spec cars alongside at the Italian Grand Prix.

You can, but you have to pay for that

Prices are on the first page, towards the bottom. Your budget is in the first post.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 29 Jul 2013, 01:52

tommykl wrote:
This wrote:I hope i have the budget for this.
When Bentley wants to make use of Pilette's services, the replacement driver sequence is: De Tornaco, Laurent, Legat(comeback), Berger, Flinterman or eventually even getting Chaboud back out of retirement.
Edit: about possible Belgian drivers;
Can you tell me when these drivers can make their debut (all F1 drivers or Belgian sportscar drivers related to ENB or Ecurie Francorchamps in the end of the fifties, but i can't find much on their career before that): Alain De Changy, Christian Goethals, André Milhoux, Olivier Gendebien, Luchien Bianchi, Willy Mairesse, Gérard Langlois van Ophem, Jean Beurlys/Blaton, Claude Dubois, Freddy Rousselle, Leon Dernier, Gustave Gosselin, Pierre Dumay, George Hacquin, Pierre Noblet, George Harris, Robert Darville, Eric De Keyn. Take your time to answer this

I'll get to that as soon as I can. I attempted to, but got logged out and lost my post. I remember that one or two of those could be available as soon as this season, but I can't remember who it was

There's no real hurry for this. I just want to warn people that there's lot of Belgian rejectfulness coming to a race near you in the future past! These are only drivers who drove at Le Mans at least once, probably there were some other Belgian drivers around in other sportscar races, and i haven't really looked into other teams either. But at least these were actually related to ENB in real life, which gives me a reason to put them in for a few one-off drives. I have to admit that the only non-F1 driver on this list i actually heared of before i searched was Beurlys (and then i didn't even knew his real name) Also, some drivers might turn out to be not Belgian, the places i found them didn't exactly gave much information.

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 29 Jul 2013, 05:42

Manfred von Brauchitsch will compete in Monaco, Germany and Switzerland, Italy. While Bechem will compete in France, Belgium, Britain, Netherlands. All in the same chassis and engine for now.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 29 Jul 2013, 07:02

Matt121 wrote:Manfred von Brauchitsch will compete in Monaco, Germany and Switzerland, Italy. While Bechem will compete in France, Belgium, Britain, Netherlands. All in the same chassis and engine for now.

Nope.jpeg.

Manfred Von Brauchitsich is a contracted Bentley driver and is not available to compete for any other team.

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 29 Jul 2013, 07:57

*waits for a brand new gun to shoot himself*

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 29 Jul 2013, 12:29

dr-baker wrote:
pi314159 wrote:Bonetto will drive the works O.S.C.A. in all GPs except Sebring, de Filippis will also run all GPs except Sebring.

Could I run de Filippis in a one-off entry at Sebing please? It'll be a spin-off from Helle Nice's one-off entry in 1950...

No problem, it was quite common in the 50's that drivers raced for different teams.