F1 Alternativ: season 1990

[Ataxia]

Team, Budget, Engine, Engine costs

Ferrari 33m$ Ferrari 12m$
Tyrell 13m$ Renault 12m$
Williams 26m$ Renault 14m$
Brabham 12m$ Ford(89) 3m$
Footwork Arrows 4m$ Ford(90) 11m$
Lotus 13m$ Judd 6m$
Osella 6m$ Ford(89) 3m$
Leyton House 17m$ Ford(89) 3m$
AGS 10m$ Lamborghini 6m$
Benneton 27m$ Ford(89) 3m$
BMS-Dallara 2m$ Lamborghini 7m$
Minardi 6m$ Judd 6m$
Ligier 10m$ Ford(89) 3m$
Mclaren 25m$ Honda 25m$
Larrousse 17m$ Ford(89) 3m$
Coloni 1m$ Judd 6m$
Euro Brun 5m$ Ford(89) 3m$
Onyx 7m$ Ford(89) 3m$

By the way, I should have $4m left, not $10m as this list suggests.

[Hermann95]

By the way, I should have $4m left, not $10m as this list suggests.

Yeah sorry for that. I also made misstakes at Lotus and Benneton. Lotus has 12m$ left. Benneton 32m$. Should not calculate anything at 5 in the morning

[FantometteBR]

I got Osella then? Should I make my bids now^?

[The Lukas]

Coloni will sign with Goodyear. Our targeted drivers are:
1D:Roberto Moreno(200k$)
2D:Johnny Dumfries(200k$)

[Phoenix]

McLaren's drivers for 1990:

#1 Alain Prost 12,5m$
#2 Jean Alesi 4m$

[Hermann95]

I got Osella then? Should I make my bids now^?

Yeah please. If its posibble until 20:00 EEST.

[FantometteBR]

I got Osella then? Should I make my bids now^?

Yeah please. If its posibble until 20:00 EEST.

Okie dokie

Osella would like to go with Pirellis

And want for drivers (Osella will use only one car as it was at 1990)

1st driver
Olivier Grouillard - 250k
Andrea Chiesa - brings 500k
Gary Brabham - brings 300k

test driver
Thomas Danielsson - brings 400k
Andrea Montermini - 100k

[Hermann95]

Hey,
Mclaren please sign with aone tyre supplier!!
PS: currently managing the driver signing process

[Hermann95]

Every team,except Arrows, has handed in the bids for the drivers. I'll now start with the contract negotiations. Arrows will have to take the drivers who aren't signged with another team.

Mclaren

Alain Prost has offers from Mclaren(1)12.5m$, Brabham(1)10m$ and Benneton(1)12m$
1-80...Meclaren
81-98...Benneton
99-100...Brabham
68 Prost will stay at Mclaren.

Jean Alesi has offers from Mclaren(2)4m$, two bids from Williams,(1)4m$,(2)3.5m$, Ligier(2)3m$, Tyrell(2)2m$, Benneton(2)4m$
1-40...Meclaren
41-65...Williams(1)
66-80...Williams(2)
81-95...Benneton
96-98...Tyrell
99-100...Ligier
10 Alesi joins Mclaren as second driver.
Meclarens line-up is completed.

Williams

Thierry Boutsen has offers from Williams(1)7.5m$, Ferrari(2)5m$, Minardi(1)4m$, Tyrell(1)5m$ and Benneton(2)4m$
1-70...Williams
71-82...Ferrari
83-91...Tyrell
92-98...Benneton
99-100...Minardi
20 Boutsen stays at Williams.

Ivan Capelli has offers from Williams(2)3m$,Leyton House(1)8m$, Larrousse(2)5m$ and Ligier(1)4m$
1-75...Leyton House
76-90...Williams
91-95...Larrousse
96-100...Ligier
36 Ivan Capelli will join Leyton House.

Stefano Modena has offers from Williams(2)3m$,(3)1.5m$, Minardi(1)3m$ and Benneton(3)0,5m$
1-80...Williams(2)
81-90...Minardi(1)
81-97...Williams(3)
98-100...Benneton
51 Stefano Modena will be the 2nd driver at Williams.

Karl Wendlinger will accept the offer from Williams to hire as test driver because it was the only.
Williams line-up completed.

Ferrari

Nelson Piquet has offers from Ferrari(1)10m$, Minardi(1)5m$, Tyrell(1)7m$ and Benneton(1)8m$.
1-70...Ferrari
71-85...Benneton
86-95...Tyrell
95-100...Minardi
16 Piquet will drive for Ferrari.
Ferrari will have to offer a bid for another driver for the position of the 2nd driver!

Benneton

Ayrton Senna as it was the only bid Senna will accept and drive for Benneton for 12m$.

Alessandro Nannini has offers from Benneton(2)5m$ and Lotus(1)4m$
1-60...Benneton
61-100...Lotus
28 Nannini will be the partner of Senna and drve for Benneton.

Michael Schumacher has offers from Benneton(3)2m$ and Tyrell(2)0,5m$
1-50...Benneton
51-100...Tyrell
31 Schumacher accept the offer from Benneton and start his F1 career as a test driver for them.
Benneton has completed the line-up.

Tyrell

Nigel Mansell Tyrell is the only offer for Mansell at the moment. It is very likely that he will accept.
1-90...Tyrell
91-100...looking for other offers
92 Mansell is not accepting the offer from Tyrell! He is still a free driver and able to negotiat with other teams.

Gerhard Berger has offers from Tyrell(1)6m$, Brabham(1)6m$ and Lotus(1)6m$
1-35...Tyrell
36-70...Lotus
71-100...Brabham
64 Berger is hoping for the Lotus cockpit. If he can't take it his other option will be:
1-60...Tyrell
61-100...Brabham
99 Brabham

Eddie Irvine has offers from Tyrell(3)0.5m$, Eurobrun(2)2m$ or pay at least 2m$ for a seat at Brabham(2).
1-65...Eurobrun
66-90...Tyrell
91-100...Brabham
5 Eddie Irvine is hoping to join Eurobrun.Otherwise he will join:
1-75...Tyrell
76-100...Brabham
74 Tyrell as 3rd driver.

Fabrizion Giovanardi has offers from Tyrell(3)0.5m$ or Minardi(2) if he pays the most.
1-80...Tyrell
81-100...Minardi
43he will join Tyrell if Irvine is joinig Eurobrun. If Irvine is joining Tyrell he will pay to Minardi:
1-20...can't offer some money
21-55...0.5m$
56-75...1m$
76-90...1.5m$
91-100...2m$
68 he will be able to pay 1m$

Allan McNish has offers from Tyrell(3)0.5m$ and Eurobrun(2)2m$
1-70...Eurobrun
71-100...Tyrell
4McNish will join Eurobrun. In this case Irvine will join Tyrell as test driver and Fabrizion Giovanardi offers 1m$ to Minardi.
Tyrell will have to offer bids for a first and second driver or upgrade Irvine and bid for the 2nd racing seat and a test driver.

Lotus

Michele Alboreto has offers from Lotus(1)4m$, Minardi(1)4m$ and Ligier(1)5m$
1-35...Lotus
36-70...Ligier
71-100...Minardi
78 Alboreto is joining Minardi. In this case Berger is joining Lotus as 1st driver.

Eric van der Poele has offers from Lotus(2)2m$, Dallara(2)0,5m$ or pay 2m$ for Brabham(2)
1-80...Lotus
81-99...Dallara
100...Brabham
12 van der Poele joins Lotus as 2nd driver.
Lotus line up completed.

Dallara

Andrea de Cesari has offers from Dallara(1)0.5m$ and Brabham(1)2m$
1-75...Brabham
76-100...Dallara
60 he will join Brabham.

Gabriele Tarqunini has no other offers.
1-95...Dallara
96-100...looking for other teams.
47 he joins Dallara as 1st driver for 0.5m$.

Nicola Larini has offers from Dallara(2)0.5m$ and Ligier(1)4m$
1-75...Ligier
76-100...Dallara
54 he tries to join Ligier. Otherwise he will accept the offer from Dallara.

Pierluigie Martini has offer from Dallara(2)0.5m$ and Larrouse(1)5m$
1-85...Larrousse
86-100...Dallara
80 he will join Larrousse.

Gary Brabham has offers from Dallara(3)pay1.5m$, Osella(1)pay0.3m$ and Brabham(2)2m$. how much can he pay:
1-20...can't offer some money
21-55...0.5m$
56-75...1m$
76-90...1.5m$
91-100...2m$
58he can provide 1m$ which means he can only hope for the Osella cockpit.

Andrea Chiesa has offers from Dallara(3)pay1.5m$, Osella(1)pay0.5m$, Ligier(3)pay0.5m$. how much money can he provide:
1-20...can't offer some money
21-55...0.5m$
56-75...1m$
76-90...1.5m$
91-100...2m$
12he can't provide any money which means there is no deal for him! He is still free.

Bruno Chiacomelli has only one offer from Dallara(3)pay1.5m$.
1-20...can't offer some money
21-55...0.5m$
56-75...1m$
76-90...1.5m$
91-100...2m$
25 he can only offer 0.5m$. He is still free.

Brabham

1 Racing seat is taken by de Cesari. The other one is free.
Heinz Harald Frentzen has offers from Brabham(3)0.5m$, AGS(2)pay0.5m$ and Eurobrun(1)4m$
1-85...Eurobrun
86-95...Brabham
96-100...AGS
14 he tries to join Eurobrun. Otherwise he will join Brabham.

Aguri Suzuki has offers from Brabham(3)0.5m$, AGS(1)pay0.5m$ and Leyton House(2)1m$
1-90...Leyton House
91-95...Brabham
96-100...AGS
39 he is hoping for the cockpit at Leyton House. Otherwise he will join
1-50...Brabahm
51-100...AGS
13 Brabham as test driver if Frentzen dont join.

Thomas Danielsson has offers from Brabham(3)0.5m$ and Osella(3)pay0.4m$.
1-95...Brabham
96-100...Osella
37 he joins Brabham in case Frentzen and Suzuki don't join. Otherwise
1-20...can't offer some money
21-55...0.5m$
56-75...1m$
76-90...1.5m$
91-100...2m$
52 he is able to pay the necesary 0.4m$ to Osella.

Onyx

Stefan Johansson has only this offer. He joins Onyx for 1m$.

Gregor Foitek has only this offer. He joins Onyx for 1m$.

Minardi
The 2nd racing seat from Minardi is for the driver with to most money.
Fabrizio Giovanardi 1m$
Andrea Montermini 0.5m$
Marco Apicella 0m$
Paolo Barilla 0m$
Claudio Langes 0m$
This means Giovanardi joins Minardi as 2nd driver.
Paolo Barilla and Claudio Langes are still free.

Ligier

Derek Warwick has offers from Ligier(1)5m$ and Eurobrun(1)6m$
1-75...Ligier
76-100...Eurobrun
6 Warwick joins Ligier.In this case Frentzen joins Eurobrun as 1st driver and Larini joins Dallara.

Roberto Moreno has offers from Ligier(2)2m$, Coloni(1)0.2m$ and Larrouse(3)2m$
1-80...Ligier
81-90...Coloni
91-100...Larrousse
55 Moreno joins Ligier.

Erik Comas has only one offer from Ligier as test driver. He will accept for 0.5m$

AGS

Bertran Gachot has only the offer from AGS as 1st driver for 0.75m$. He accept.

Johnny Dumfries has the offer from AGS(2)pay2m$ and Coloni(2)0.2m$.
1-80...Coloni
81-100...AGS
81 AGS if he can pay 2m$
1-20...can't offer some money
21-55...0.5m$
56-75...1m$
76-90...1.5m$
91-100...2m$
91 Dumfries joins AGS and pay 2m$.

Emanuel Collard has only one offer as test driver for AGS. He has to provide 0.5m$
1-20...can't offer some money
21-55...0.5m$
56-75...1m$
76-90...1.5m$
91-100...2m$
53 He can provide the money and joins the team.

Larrousse

Have only signed one driver at the moment.

Osella

Olivier Grouillard it is the only offer for him. He will join. In this case Gary Brabham is still free.

Andrea Montermini has only this offer. Osella(3)0.1m$. He accept and join if Danielsson don't join.

Coloni has no driver signed at the moment.

Eurobrun

Eric Bernard has offers from Eurobrun(3) 1m$ and Leyton House(3)1.5m$.
1-75...Leyton House
76-100...Eurobrun
35 Bernard joins Leyton House.

JJ Lehto has only one offer. Eurobrun(3)1m$. He accept.

Leyton House

Ricardo Patrese has only this offer. Leyton House(2)4m$.
1-95...Leyton House
96-100...looking for other teams.
81 he joins Leyton House. In this case Suzuki joins Brabham and danielsson joins Osella. Montermini is still free.

[Hermann95]

The current Teams and the drivers:
Ferrari Nelson Piquet(1)10m$ vacant vacant
Tyrell vacant vacant Eddie Irvine(3)0,5m$
Williams Thierry Boutsen(1)7,5m$ Stefano Modena(2)3m$ Karl Wendlinger(3)0,5m$
Brabham Andrea de Cesari(1)2m$ vacant Aguri Suzuki(3)0,5m$
Footwork Arrows vacant vacant vacant
Lotus Gerhard Berger(1)6m$ Eric van der Poele(2)2m$ vacant
Osella Olivier Grouillard(1)0,25m$ vacant Thomas Danielsson(3)-0,4m$
Leyton House Ivan Capelli(1)8m$ Riccardo Patrese(2)4m$ Eric Bernard(3)1,5m$
AGS Bertand Gachot(1)0,75m$ Johnny Dumfries(2)-2m$ Emmanuel Collard(3)-0,5m$
Benneton Ayrton Senna(1)12m$ Alessandro Nannini(2)5m$ Michael Schumacher(3)2m$
BMS-Dallara Gabriele Tarqunini(1)0,5m$ Nicola Larini(2)0,5m$ vacant
Minardi Michele Alboreto(1)4m$ Fabrizio Giovanardi-1m$ vacant
Ligier Derek Warwik(1)5m$ Roberto Moreno(2)2m$ Erik Comas(3)0,5m$
Mclaren Alain Prost(1)12,5m$ Jean Alesi(2)4m$ vacant
Larrousse Pierluigi Martini(1)5m$ vacant vacant
Coloni vacant vacant vacant
Euro Brun Heinz Harald Frentzen(1)4m$ Allan McNish(2)2m$ JJ Lehto(3)1m$
Onyx Stefan Johansson(1)1m$ Gregor Foitek(2)1m$ vacant

[Hermann95]

Every Team which has still vacant seats and wanna fill them please bid for drivers who are still free.

Pre-season Testing

There will be 2 preseason testing oportunities for each team.
Please subscribe for 2 of the 5 available testing locations.
Preseason testing is free.

Locations

Imola
Le Castellet
Silverstone
Hockenheim
Jerez

[Klon]

Brabham will do pre-season testing at Silverstone and Hockenheim

Furthermore we will now try to sign
Nigel Mansell for $8,500,000 or
Alex Caffi if he brings $1.000.000 or
Pedro Chaves if he brings $1.500.000

[pycku]

Every team,except Arrows, has handed in the bids for the drivers. I'll now start with the contract negotiations. Arrows will have to take the drivers who aren't signged with another team.

Could you please check your e-mail? I was pretty sure I've sent my offers via e-mail as I didn't want to disclose the offers here (i have too little money, so if I disclose the drivers I'm interested in, almost anyone could have outbid me). However, I could not find a confirmation e-mail, which means that maybe it was not sent. If so, I'll make my offers for whoever has not been taken yet and I apologize.

Edit: I've decided not to post e-mails, but post here:

I know some of these were not in the list, but were active in 1989 and some of them - in 1990, too. As the list of remaining drivers is too short, I have to improvise


1st driver (in order of preference): We need a star to attract more sponsors

Nigel Mansel - 4 mln
Martin Brundle - 1 mln
Rene Arnoux - free of charge
Satoru Nakajima - if he pays 2 mln
Mika Hakkinen - if he pays 1 mln
Mauricio Gugelmin - if he pay 2 mln

2nd driver (in order of preference) - if we don't get 1st driver, these drivers are fist offered 1st driver offer for additional 0.5 mlns. Once we get 1st driver:
Satoru Nakajima - if he pays 2 mln
Mauricio Gugelmin - if he pays 1 mln
Mika Hakkinen - if he pays 0,5 mln
Philippe Alliot - if he pays 1 mln
Damon Hill - if he pays 1 mln
Christian Danner - if he pays 2 mln
Alex Zanardi - if he brings 2 mln
Bernd Schneider - if he pays 2 mln
Johnny Herbert - if he pays 2 mln

Test driver (in order of preference) - whoever pays 2 mln (that would include at least 2 test sessions)

Mika Hakkinen
Damon Hill
Christian Danner
Alex Zanardi
Bernd Schneider
Johnny Herbert
Alex Caffi
Emanuelle Pirro
Johnny Herbert

[Bleu]

Ligier will go to Le Castellet and Imola.

[Shizuka]

Larrousse welcomes Pierluigi Martini.

For the second driver;
- Zanardi - We can pay him 2m$
- Morbidelli - We can pay him 2m$
- Caffi - We can pay him 2m$
- Pirro - Please bring 0.5m$
- Gugelmin - Please bring 1m$

For the test driver:
- Barilla - Please bring 3m$
- Häkkinen - We can pay him 2m$
- Herbert - We can pay him 1m$
- Caffi - We can pay him 1m$
- Pirro - Please bring 0.5m$

Larrousse would like to test at Imola and Jerez.

[Peteroli34]

Tyrell bids for the remainig seat

First Driver
Nigel Mansell $8M
Martin Brundle $5M
Johnny Herbert $2M
Maurício Gugelmin $1M

Second Driver
Satoru Nakajima $1m
Mark Blundell $1M
Gianni Morbidelli $0.5M
Mikka Hakkinen $0.5M
Damon Hill $0.5M

Tyrell will test at Silverstone and Le Castellet

[Ataxia]

AGS will test at Le Castellet and Silverstone.

[Alextrax52]

Which drivers are left?

[Peteroli34]

Which drivers are left?

As Tyrrell need 2 drivers i have been going through the drivers and i believe all of the following are free

Alex Caffi
Andrea Montermini
Ayrton Senna
Bernd Schneider
Bruno Giacomelli
Claudio Langes
David Brabham
Emanuele Pirro
Gary Brabham
Giani Morbidelli
Johnny Herbert
Jonathan Palmer
Mark Blundell
Martin Donnelly
Maurício Gugelmin
Nigel Mansell
Paolo Barilla
Philippe Alliot
Satoru Nakajima
Yannick Dalmas
Marco Apicella
Andrea Chiesa

[Alextrax52]

I will make a £3 Million Bid for Nakajima to partner Piquet.

Ferrari will test at Imola (Obviously) and Hockenheim

can we also sign Yannick Dalmas as a tester for £0.5 million?

[takagi_for_the_win]

Senna and Nanninni? Could not be happier!

Benetton will test at Silverstone and Jerez.

In this alternate series, will events such as Nanninni's helicopter crash still happen, or be wiped due to this being an alternate past?

[good_Ralf]

I'm really pleased that, by some luck, I succeeded in giving Frentzen and McNish, potential GP winners in the future, their F1 debuts earlier than in reality. If the car is good, I hope that my drivers can score top-10 results and even points.

Pre-season tests

Imola for downforce
Hockenheim for straight-line speed

[SeedStriker]

Dallara will welcome Gary Brabham as tester. Someone needs to give the kid a fair chance and we'll put his money to good use. Frankly I expect a good year: a good chassis, a combative engine and three drivers who ache for battling and prove that they have a place alongside the top guns.

And we will go to Jerez and Le Castellet for testing

[pycku]

I've missed that in my previous post, but Arrows will test at Silverstone and Paul Ricard.

[Samster]

Minardi will test at Imola and Silverstone.

[Hermann95]

Senna and Nanninni? Could not be happier!

Benetton will test at Silverstone and Jerez.

In this alternate series, will events such as Nanninni's helicopter crash still happen, or be wiped due to this being an alternate past?

I think it will be an alternate past. Pretty same gos for the teams: new teams will come in in the year they startet in real(f.e.Jordan 1991,Sauber1993...) but old teams only "die" if they have not enough money, which means if you start next season(after the sponsoring things) with no money or you have liabilities your team will went bankrupt and be out. It will also be possible that drivers such as Prost don't retiere after 1993.

And for pay drivers: They are not able to pay more than 2m$!

Edit: After looking on the list of driver who are still free, i have decided that there will be an update! I will post a list with all currently available drivers, old and new ones. If any of the teams which already have signed their drivers is unhappy with this decision you can sack drivers from your team and bid for new ones! Sacked drivers will be pissed of and won't signing with your teams in the next 1 or 2 years.

[pycku]

Okay then all driver which are offered to bring more than 2 mln are made 2 mln, is it okay?

[Hermann95]

Okay then all driver which are offered to bring more than 2 mln are made 2 mln, is it okay?

Jep

[The Lukas]

1 Driver:Paolo Barilla(400k)
2 Driver:Satoru Nakajima(400k)

[Hermann95]

Driver update:
This is the official free drivers list with 9 new drivers. You can bid for every driver from this list.

Alex Caffi
Andrea Chiesa
Andrea Montermini
Bernd Schneider
Bruno Giacomelli
Claudio Langes
David Brabham
Emanuele Pirro
Gary Brabham
Giani Morbidelli
Johnny Herbert
Jonathan Palmer
Marco Apicella
Mark Blundell
Martin Donnelly
Maurício Gugelmin
Nigel Mansell
Paolo Barilla
Philippe Alliot
Satoru Nakajima
Yannick Dalmas
Martin Brundle
Eddie Cheever
Piercarlo Ghinzani
Rene Arnoux
Joachim Winkelhock
Christian Danner
Damon Hill
Mika Häkkinen
Alessandro Zanardi

[pycku]

Thanks a lot. We upgraded our driver offers list in previous post.


When will be the next driver draft?

[Salamander]

Boutsen and Modena? Looks like history is repeating itself, at least with regards to Flaschenpost's series. Hopefully that means Boutsen will take an equally dominant victory in the first race.

[FantometteBR]

Osella bids for second driver

Ghinzani - 200k
Chiesa - brings 150k
Gugelmin - 200k

[Hermann95]

Thanks a lot. We upgraded our driver offers list in previous post.


When will be the next driver draft?

I would like to do the next draft as fast as possible in order to go ahead with pre season testing.
Let's say deadline will be tomorow 18:00 EEST.

PS: To Williams, Lotus, Osella, Leyton House, Mclaren, Coloni and Onyx please sign up for preseason testing!!!

[FantometteBR]

Osella will sign for Imola and Jerez

[Peteroli34]

I have updated my bids

[Phoenix]

Excellent! McLaren will test at Hockenheim (engine and aero tests) and Jerez (overall testing). It will also keep on its deal with Goodyear.

[Hermann95]

Budget update
including tyres and already signed drivers.

Ferrari 22,5m$
Tyrell 12m$
Williams 14,5m$
Brabham 9,2m$
Footwork Arrows 3,5m$
Lotus 3,5m$
Osella 5,85m$
Leyton House 3,2m$
AGS 5,25m$
Benneton 12,5m$
BMS-Dallara 0,5m$
Minardi 2,7m$
Ligier 2m$
Mclaren 8m$
Larrousse 11,7m$
Coloni 0,5m$
Euro Brun -2,5m$
Onyx 4,5m$

[good_Ralf]

Budget update
including tyres and already signed drivers.
Euro Brun -2,5m$

How did I blow it?

[Salamander]

Williams will be testing at Silverstone and Jerez.