Junior Rejects' Awards

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 01 Aug 2013, 14:42

For 2013, thus far..

Worst GP2 Driver -
Worst GP3 Driver -
Worst FR3.5 Driver -
Worst Formula 3 Driver (any F3 series) -
Worst Young Driver in another series (AutoGP, Formula Renault. 2.0, National F4 level series etc.) -
Worst Driver In A New Series (e.g. drivers moving up from GP3 to GP2) -
Worst Overall F1 Prospect -

Go ahead..explanations aren't necessary..

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 01 Aug 2013, 15:53

Worst GP2 driver: Johnny Cecotto: Most of us are waiting for the day that Cecotto gets banned from all racing forever. From that disgusting move on Sam Bird in Malaysia Qualifying to Swiping Sergio Canamasas in the Barcelona Sprint Race. From causing the pile up in Monte Carlo to getting involved in the battle for 2nd while unlapping himself in Hungary. I could write a book on Cecotto's antics this season because they have been unbelievable.

Worst GP3 Driver: Carmen Jorda: Why is she still in GP3? She's a waste of space.

that's all i can do sadly

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 01 Aug 2013, 16:01

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Worst GP2 driver: Johnny Cecotto: Most of us are waiting for the day that Cecotto gets banned from all racing forever. From that disgusting move on Sam Bird in Malaysia Qualifying to Swiping Sergio Canamasas in the Barcelona Sprint Race. From causing the pile up in Monte Carlo to getting involved in the battle for 2nd while unlapping himself in Hungary. I could write a book on Cecotto's antics this season because they have been unbelievable.

that's all i can do sadly

Just looking at that Spanish video, you should change you're signature to 'ban Johnny Cecotto forever'. Ugh.

How many times has Canamasas lost his rear wing?

tzerof1 · Post by **tzerof1** » 01 Aug 2013, 19:42

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Worst GP2 driver: Johnny Cecotto

Cecotto is the only other driver besides Giovanni Lavaggi that I've heard being called "desperately slow". And that really speaks volumes of his worthiness of the accolade in question.

Meatwad · Post by **Meatwad** » 01 Aug 2013, 20:07

GP2: Pål Varhaug: Very slow. It was surprising to see him get another chance in GP2 after his disastrous season two years ago (scored no points while team mate Grosjean won the championship). He did well in Auto GP last year but it seems like GP2 is just a step too high for him. Fortunately, he was replaced by Lancaster after just two weekends.
GP3: Carmen Jordá: It's nice to see a female driver in GP3 but she is clearly the slowest driver in the series. Piria and especially Powell were clearly better last year as is Gómez, in spite of her lack of experience.

I don't know who to nominate from WSbR and I haven't watched the other series.

girry · Post by **girry** » 01 Aug 2013, 20:44

Cecotto? Desperately slow? Noooononono......you're confusing him with Serenelli.

Desperately dangerous......that's, well, more exact.

Post by **mario** » 01 Aug 2013, 21:05

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Worst GP2 driver: Johnny Cecotto: Most of us are waiting for the day that Cecotto gets banned from all racing forever. From that disgusting move on Sam Bird in Malaysia Qualifying to Swiping Sergio Canamasas in the Barcelona Sprint Race. From causing the pile up in Monte Carlo to getting involved in the battle for 2nd while unlapping himself in Hungary. I could write a book on Cecotto's antics this season because they have been unbelievable.

Worst GP3 Driver: Carmen Jorda: Why is she still in GP3? She's a waste of space.

that's all i can do sadly

To be honest, given the reputation those two drivers have racked up over the year you might as well simply give the awards to them right now. Johnny Cecotto, frankly, should not be racing in GP2 - his inability to control his aggression on track is such that, frankly, it is a miracle that nobody has ended up being injured, or worse, despite some of the crashes that he has ended up causing. As for Carmen Jordá, you can only assume that her position in GP3 is down to money or personal connections, because her results in 2012 did not justify her position (she was 28th in 2012) and are no better in 2013 either.

Although I am unable to watch FR3.5, and therefore do not want to make any firm comments about the sport, a quick skim through of the results might lead me to suggest Yann Cunha (currently 26th in the rankings and with a best finish of just 12th place this season - in fact, he is still to finish in the top 10 in FR3.5 at all, having only managed a best finish of 11th in 2012).

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 02 Aug 2013, 02:57

Worst GP2 Driver - Pal Varhaug..it was a bit of a shock to see his GP2 performances, considering the fact that he has done well in almost everything else he has participated in. In pre-season testing, the fact that he was outpaced by Conor Daly (coming from GP3), Riccardo Agostini (from Italian F3) and Luciano Bacheta (from F2) speaks volumes..
Worst GP3 Driver - Carmen Jorda..what can I say? She has no place in junior formulae..absolutely Reject Plus-type....
Worst FR3.5 Driver - Matias Laine..having finished fifth last year in GP3, lot more was expected of him, but right now, he's a firm backmarker whereas his teammate Will Stevens is third in the championship. Daniil Move runs him close.
Worst Formula 3 Driver (any F3 series) - Sheban Siddiqi..last in 2010 in Formula Abarth, last in 2011 in ADAC Formel Masters, last of full-time runners last year in German F3, near the back in German F3 this year too..another Reject Plus. Here's a link to confirm..http://www.driverdb.com/drivers/sheban-siddiqi/career/
Worst Young Driver in another series (AutoGP, Formula Renault. 2.0, National F4 level series etc.) - Alex Baron..crushed the opposition in French F4 last year, the Nicolas Todt-managed driver is yet to score a point in Formula Renault 2.0 this year..
Worst Driver In A New Series (e.g. drivers moving up from GP3 to GP2) - Daniel Abt
Worst Overall F1 Prospect - Ricardo Teixeira

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 02 Aug 2013, 18:08

Worst GP2 Driver: Johnny Cecotto jr
Worst F1 prospect: Johnny Cecotto jr

Post by **Ataxia** » 02 Aug 2013, 21:21

Worst GP2 Driver - Although many members are screaming Johnny Cecotto Jr.'s name (and I would generally agree that his driving has been quite poor), he has scored points this year. I would argue Sergio Canamasas has probably been worse; he's certainly driven with little regard for the rest of the field and still has no points despite the Caterham team generally being quite up-together.
Worst GP3 Driver - Carmen Jorda. Zero talent, and has finished plum last plenty of times...in short, she's just picked up from where she left off last season.
Worst FR3.5 Driver - One would expect Mathias Laine to be doing better. He was impressively consistent in GP3, but seems to have wilted quite a lot. I don't know whether P1 have the resources to keep both cars at the sharp end, but still, Stevens is in 3rd at the moment whilst Laine has but 2 points.
Worst Driver In A New Series (e.g. drivers moving up from GP3 to GP2) - Either Laine again, or Daniel Abt. Both fighting for honours in GP3 in 2012, now both at the arse-end of the field.
Worst Overall F1 Prospect - I'm not sure here, is this the worst possible candidate for an F1 seat, or the worst driver with possible connections to a seat? I'd guess the first one would point to perennial Row 13 botherer Ricardo Teixeira, but the second would be Canamasas again, due to his part-time Caterham test role...as well as Cecotto Jr. and his occasional tests for Toro Rosso too. Interesting thing to note is that both Canamasas and Cecotto have had a recent spat on Twitter...about crashing.

LionZoo · Post by **LionZoo** » 02 Aug 2013, 21:44

A quick google search of Carmen Jorda tells me why she probably still has a seat...

watka · Post by **watka** » 02 Aug 2013, 22:07

LionZoo wrote:A quick google search of Carmen Jorda tells me why she probably still has a seat...

Wait, since when did Dr Baker start running a GP3 team? :lol:

(Doctor, if this ever gets tiresome, do let us know)

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 03 Aug 2013, 04:15

LionZoo wrote:A quick google search of Carmen Jorda tells me why she probably still has a seat...

Hot damn, no wonder why.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 03 Aug 2013, 10:26

watka wrote:
LionZoo wrote:A quick google search of Carmen Jorda tells me why she probably still has a seat...

Wait, since when did Dr Baker start running a GP3 team?

(Doctor, if this ever gets tiresome, do let us know)

If this was ever going to be tiresome, it would have happened 2 or 3 years ago! To be honest, I still :lol:

'ed when I read this.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 03 Aug 2013, 13:15

dr-baker wrote:
watka wrote:
LionZoo wrote:A quick google search of Carmen Jorda tells me why she probably still has a seat...

Wait, since when did Dr Baker start running a GP3 team?

(Doctor, if this ever gets tiresome, do let us know)

If this was ever going to be tiresome, it would have happened 2 or 3 years ago! To be honest, I still 'ed when I read this.

If Baker ran a GP3 team i'm sure he would have found a way to keep Powell, Piria and Jorda at all costs. TBH i would much rather see Susie Wolff in Jorda's car. At least she could keep pace with the tail-enders for a while

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 03 Aug 2013, 16:05

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:If Baker ran a GP3 team i'm sure he would have found a way to keep Powell, Piria and Jorda at all costs. TBH i would much rather see Susie Wolff in Jorda's car. At least she could keep pace with the tail-enders for a while

Hmm. Alice Powell, definitely. Wolff would be a good choice, although maybe a step or two down from DTM/F1 test driver position. And maybe try and offer Pippa Mann a full-time drive back in Europe (although it would be a major step down from FR3.5/IndyCar). Perhaps Beitske Visser?

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 03 Aug 2013, 16:52

dr-baker wrote:
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:If Baker ran a GP3 team i'm sure he would have found a way to keep Powell, Piria and Jorda at all costs. TBH i would much rather see Susie Wolff in Jorda's car. At least she could keep pace with the tail-enders for a while

Hmm. Alice Powell, definitely. Wolff would be a good choice, although maybe a step or two down from DTM/F1 test driver position. And maybe try and offer Pippa Mann a full-time drive back in Europe (although it would be a major step down from FR3.5/IndyCar). Perhaps Beitske Visser?

Cyndie Allemann? Rahel Frey? Natacha Gachnang? (Swiss triple threat)

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 03 Aug 2013, 16:53

wsrgo wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:If Baker ran a GP3 team i'm sure he would have found a way to keep Powell, Piria and Jorda at all costs. TBH i would much rather see Susie Wolff in Jorda's car. At least she could keep pace with the tail-enders for a while

Hmm. Alice Powell, definitely. Wolff would be a good choice, although maybe a step or two down from DTM/F1 test driver position. And maybe try and offer Pippa Mann a full-time drive back in Europe (although it would be a major step down from FR3.5/IndyCar). Perhaps Beitske Visser?

Cyndie Allemann? Rahel Frey? Natacha Gachnang? (Swiss triple threat)

Fiona Leggate? Ana Beatriz? Simona de Silvestro? And the Clincher Milka Duno

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 03 Aug 2013, 17:54

This suddenly brought to mind one of the most epic posts of the last off-season. Gotta go back and redecide who I would want in my dream team (I said dream TEAM, not my dream. :roll:

) (Although it doesn't surprise me I dream of female drivers. But fully dressed and suited up! LOL... And Flav not in a dirty old mac or just a dressing gown - surprising?)

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 04 Aug 2013, 02:21

dr-baker wrote:This suddenly brought to mind one of the most epic posts of the last off-season. Gotta go back and redecide who I would want in my dream team (I said dream TEAM, not my dream. ) (Although it doesn't surprise me I dream of female drivers. But fully dressed and suited up! LOL... And Flav not in a dirty old mac or just a dressing gown - surprising?)

The Cora Schumacher there....any relation to Ralfie?

Meatwad · Post by **Meatwad** » 04 Aug 2013, 11:20

wsrgo wrote:The Cora Schumacher there....any relation to Ralfie?

She is Ralf's wife. They have a son.

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 04 Aug 2013, 12:18

Meatwad wrote:
wsrgo wrote:The Cora Schumacher there....any relation to Ralfie?

She is Ralf's wife. They have a son.

THAT Cora?? Didn't know she was a racer...

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 04 Aug 2013, 12:24

Meatwad wrote:
wsrgo wrote:The Cora Schumacher there....any relation to Ralfie?

She is Ralf's wife. They have a son.

I thought they got divorced... yet another fact which suggests Ralf is not as complete as his older brother.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 04 Aug 2013, 14:27

good_Ralf wrote:
Meatwad wrote:
wsrgo wrote:The Cora Schumacher there....any relation to Ralfie?

She is Ralf's wife. They have a son.

I thought they got divorced... yet another fact which suggests Ralf is not as complete as his older brother.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 04 Aug 2013, 16:15

I thought Michael Schumacher's wife was Cora? Or did they both marry ladies called Cora?

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 04 Aug 2013, 16:16

dr-baker wrote:I thought Michael Schumacher's wife was Cora? Or did they both marry ladies called Cora?

No Michael married Corrina Betsch in 1995

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 04 Aug 2013, 16:20

Cora Schumacher was interviewed once and IIRC she accused Corrina of being "the perfect wife in a perfect world".

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 04 Aug 2013, 16:21

Cora/Corrina... Similar names in my mind! :roll:

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 04 Aug 2013, 16:27

dr-baker wrote:Cora/Corrina... Similar names in my mind!

I was about to say that. Took the words right out of my mouth.

watka · Post by **watka** » 04 Aug 2013, 20:36

Don't mention Corinna to Heinz-Herald Frentzen...

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 11 Nov 2013, 04:46

For the whole of 2013

Worst GP2 Driver -
Worst GP3 Driver -
Worst FR3.5 Driver -
Worst Formula 3 Driver (any F3 series) -
Worst Young Driver in another series (AutoGP, Formula Renault. 2.0, National F4 level series etc.) -
Worst Driver In A New Series (e.g. drivers moving up from GP3 to GP2) -
Worst Overall F1 Prospect -

Go ahead..explanations aren't necessary..

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 11 Nov 2013, 04:54

Worst GP2 Driver - Jake Rosenzweig: didn't feature at all, apart from the Monza weekend.
Worst GP3 Driver - Carmen Jorda: sorry, doc Baker
Worst FR3.5 Driver - Yann Cunha: no highs at all
Worst Formula 3 Driver (any F3 series) - Sheban Siddiqi: teammates finished 1st, 2nd and 3rd, he was 18th.
Worst Young Driver in another series (Auto GP, Formula Renault. 2.0, National F4 level series etc.) - Michele la Rosa: 42-year-old Auto GP reject
Worst Driver In A New Series (e.g. drivers moving up from GP3 to GP2) - Daniel Abt: nothing to say
Worst Overall F1 Prospect - Johnny Cecotto, Jr: again, nothing to say

Backmarker · Post by **Backmarker** » 11 Nov 2013, 09:41

Worst GP2 Driver - Johnny Cecotto, Jr. - constantly a danger to other drivers. A sixth season in GP2 would be a travesty.
Worst GP3 Driver - Carmen Jordá - a season best finish of 17th.
Worst FR3.5 Driver - Lucas Foresti - don't think you can blame his performance on AV Formula being a rookie team, given that Arthur Pic managed consistent points finishes and a podium.
Worst Formula 3 Driver (any F3 series) - "Dragon" - the worst driver (and racing under a nickname to boot) in the worst superlicense-awarding F3 series
Worst Young Driver in another series (AutoGP, Formula Renault. 2.0, National F4 level series etc.) - Michele la Rosa - with an honourable mention for all other drivers who were shown up by Narain Karthikeyan.
Worst Driver In A New Series (e.g. drivers moving up from GP3 to GP2) - Daniel Abt - after only narrowly losing the GP3 title to Mitch Evans, Abt looked a good prospect to be best rookie, given he was driving for perpetual challengers ART.
Worst Overall F1 Prospect - Mikhail Aleshin - remember when he was a Red Bull Junior, and a Formula Renault 3.5 champion? Those were the days he might have made it to F1.

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 11 Nov 2013, 11:17

For 2013, thus far..

Worst GP2 Driver -Jake Rosenzweig (the only one to race the entire season and not score points; even CANAMASAS scored)
Worst GP3 Driver -Carmen Jorda (need I explain? Nah)
Worst FR3.5 Driver -Christopher Zanella (I hoped he would have had a good season like he did in Formula 2 but he just went down quickly after his podium finish in the opening round)
Worst Formula 3 Driver (any F3 series) -Saud al Faisal (IMO)
Worst Young Driver in another series (AutoGP, Formula Renault. 2.0, National F4 level series etc.) -Francesco Dracone (just try something other than open wheel, please)
Worst Driver In A New Series (e.g. drivers moving up from GP3 to GP2) -Daniel Abt (so much was expected from him)
Worst Overall F1 Prospect -Ricardo Teixeira

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 11 Nov 2013, 16:07

Worst GP2 Driver Jake Rosenzweig
Worst GP3 Driver Carmen Jorda
Worst FR3.5 Driver Yahn Cunha
Worst Formula 3 Driver Sheban Siddiqi
Worst Driver in another series Michele la Rosa
Worst Driver in a new series Mathias Laine
Worst F1 Prospect Johnny Cecotto Jr

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 11 Nov 2013, 18:40

Worst GP2 driver: Jake Rosenzweig
Worst GP3 driver: Carmen Jordá
Worst FR3.5 driver: Lucas Foresti
Worst F3 driver: Sheban Siddiqi
Worst young driver in another series: Michele la Rosa
Worst driver in a new series: Daniel Abt
Worst overall F1 prospect: Ricardo Teixeira

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 07 Nov 2014, 13:18

I might as well revive this thread for 2014, even if there is one race left in GP2 and GP3

Worst GP2 driver: Kimiya Sato (dominating Auto GP but totally out of depth in a greater field)
Worst GP3 driver: Carmen Jordá [this time in a Koiranen IN A CAR CAPABLE OF WINNING (proven by Stoneman who dominated Russia, almost sweeping both rounds)]
Worst FR3.5 driver: Roman Mavlanov (no points while his teammate finishes 3rd. Better off in GT cars than open wheel)
Worst F3 driver: Michele Beretta (only one to race the entire European Formula 3 Championship season and never looked close to scoring)
Worst young driver in another series: Anouck Abadie (last French F4 with a best finish of 15th twice)
Worst driver in a new series: Facu Regalia (sadly)
Worst overall F1 prospect: Sergio Canamasas (quite possibly the most dangerous GP2 driver there is)

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