He made it about 100 feet before he pulled a remarkable Nelshino impression...and that was in a straight line...I'd like to see how he handles turning the wheel.
That makes Nelsinho look like Schumacher
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How about Tung Ho-Pin? Despite me being a fan, his GP2 and A1GP results probably put him in the Hideki Noda bracket in F1. Occasionally fast on his day, but mostly anonymous. China's closest F1 hope, but if he ever makes it to F1, he'll probably be similar to Alex Yoong, though I mean the real Alex, not the perceived worst driver ever Alex.
"will you stop him playing tennis then?", referring to Montoya's famous shoulder injury, to which Whitmarsh replied "well, it's very difficult to play tennis on a motorbike"
Dario Franchitti... he'll be on the borderline but I think if we put him in an F1 car for a few seasons he might get out of rejectdom. Ryan Briscoe however... after his display of racemanship by taking Dixon out he probably would be the next Nelson Piquet... slow, unworthy of a seat and very expensive.
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Chilled Phill wrote:Surprised by the lack of a mention for Björn Wirdheim. Perhaps his famous trick was this little incident in Monaco: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PkbiE1pHc0
Another young driver's career went down the drain that day...
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Wow! I had completely forgotten about this! 2003, right? Wasn't he the third driver for Jaguar in 2004?
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What about Brendan Hartley ? Long-haired hippy who always looks like a miserable git in every picture I have seen. Very young and probably never had to worry about where the next drive is coming.
Could be the next Vettel but, more to the point, could be the next Mike Thackwell ?
Red Bull tried to nominate him as third driver for Red Bull and Toro Rosso, but he hasn't done enough mileage to qualify for a superlicence.
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He made it about 100 feet before he pulled a remarkable Nelshino impression...and that was in a straight line...I'd like to see how he handles turning the wheel.
That's hilarious, bet he blamed it on "cold tyres".
I'd like to nominate Dan Wheldon (who had a chance with Williams if I remember) and Fairuz Fauzy. All seems to have gone quiet about Wheldon since the Indy 500 and anyone beaten to a seat by Pizzonia deserves to stay out of F1. Fairuz Fauzy was rubbish in GP2, but had lots of money, so could have made it into F1, but fortunately he didn't/
How about Fairuz Fauzy? My mate race engineered him in British Formula 3 in 2003 and said the guy was out of his depth even back then.
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Faustus wrote:Red Bull tried to nominate him as third driver for Red Bull and Toro Rosso, but he hasn't done enough mileage to qualify for a superlicence.
He's got one now.
I think any rookie American who signs for USF1 would leave the sport as a reject.
Because the American F1 veteran is sooooooooooooo much better...
I'm expecting this dubious honour to fall on Danica Patrick for some reason. They'll stick her in the car just to see how much sponsorship the "OMG. A woman in F1!!!" factor will generate.
Of course, we could all end up with egg on our faces if USGP end up being a front-runner.
Let us not forget the nearly greats such as... Mario Haberfeld Bruno Junqueira Kelvin Burt Oliver Gavin I may be tad cruel hear, cuz who know what may have happened had these guys been given a chance, though given Jan Magnussen's example lets not get too hopeful.
RejectSteve wrote:Another possible reject, IMHO, would be Valentino Rossi. Too much hype and little potential of actually doing a good job in four wheels.
I absolutely agree. Idiotic italian press often speculates about replacing Raikkonen with Rossi... I'm quite sure he would be outperformed by Chanoch Nissany in a '05 Minardi.
I'd say Karun Chandhok, if he gets to F1 it'll be in a Force India (or Fifi as I like to call them), so...wouldn't be too promising. He's not great anyway in GP2.
Judging from GP2 again, Lucas di Grassi would probably be awful if got to F1. Not that he's that bad, he just hasn't made any kind of impact despite doing reasonably well. There has to be something wrong there.
shinji wrote:I'd say Karun Chandhok, if he gets to F1 it'll be in a Force India (or Fifi as I like to call them), so...wouldn't be too promising. He's not great anyway in GP2.
Judging from GP2 again, Lucas di Grassi would probably be awful if got to F1. Not that he's that bad, he just hasn't made any kind of impact despite doing reasonably well. There has to be something wrong there.
Shinji's vision of the future was correct
I'll add two drivers from GP2 this season, Johnny Cecotto Jr. and Sergio Canamassas.
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Clint Bowyer, good salesman and not shabby on what might resemble a Tilkedrome in Sonoma. However, his age upon discovery outside of Kansas at 24 would probably have left him as Takuma Sato at best and Giovanni Lavaggi at worst although with the sales ability of Dennis Vitolo. Simply, a F1 rookie in his late twenties might have his best days behind him racing in an era with little in attrition with a skillset that would be great in an attrition heavy era like F1 before the engine limit. However, his year of birth and time of discovery in 2003 would put him firmly in the low attrition era where his talent wouldn't be much more than a steady driver running around 7th to 12th place just outside the unrejectifying zone. If he was before then with the skillset, I think we might have a decent driver far outside of the reject zone and possible world champion however his date of birth and relative obscurity before his mid-twenties make that impossible.
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Ernesto "Neto" Jochamowitz, from Perú, had an open wheeler carrer from 1984 to 1986 in Europe, driving mostly F3 in Italy (driving for Enzo Coloni) and Britain, battling, and sometime winning against the soon to be Ferrari hero Jean Alesi and other soon to be F1 drivers like Johnny Herbert, Mauricio Gugelmin, Alex Caffi and Stefano Modena. Sadly, didn't have enough good results, money dried up, and returned home to become a successful rally driver
Any NASCAR driver. Although we've had a few drivers doing OK when they tested F1 machinery.
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UgncreativeUsergname wrote:If you picked a driver from any series in the world at random, then most likely them.
Aye, this thread is just a case of "name drivers who are a bit naff that aren't in F1 currently".
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Any NASCAR driver. Although we've had a few drivers doing OK when they tested F1 machinery.
Must have forgotten about the handful of former F1 drivers who had points in F1 to the point of not being rejects. However, Christian Fittapaldi was downright awful in NASCAR in his short stint, Villeneuve was slightly better than that, and Juan Pablo Montoya was mediocre at best. Several others like Tony Stewart and most NASCAR champions would have been mediocre although not rejects. It's the drivers below the likes of the Sprint/Winston Cup champions where it gets into reject territory although some would be more era dependent as Mark Martin and Clint Bowyer would be rejects in the current type of F1, but in an attrition laden era might have snaked into enough points. Others like Kyle Busch would be a serious liability outside of the reliable cars of today as he's abusive on equipment. Then you have certain rejects like Paul Menard, David Ragan, and other lesser drivers. Some of these drivers like Max Papis and Scott Speed are actual F1 Rejects and nearly if not equally as bad in NASCAR.
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