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Question... do drivers that ran the Indy 500 from 1950 to 1960 exclusively count as F1 rejects? Because during that time, the Indy 500 was a part of the World Championship.

If that is the case, does this mean that A.J. Foyt, who is seen as the greatest racing driver of all time, qualifies for reject status?! :shock:
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I think the whole DECISION to make the 1950-1960 Indy 500 count qualifies as a reject, since the two racing series were otherwise unrelated. Usually the F1 records 'ignore' the Indy 500 (so Johnnie Parsons is only sometime listed as being one of only 3 men to win his first GP - did the Indy 500 even COUNT as a Grand Prix).
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Does anyone know if any of the European drivers at the time attempted to qualify during the '50-'60 period? I'm aware that Ascari attempted the race and didn't do all that well, did any other driver make an effort during the time?
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Ide wrote:Does anyone know if any of the European drivers at the time attempted to qualify during the '50-'60 period? I'm aware that Ascari attempted the race and didn't do all that well, did any other driver make an effort during the time?

The only European (apart from Ascari) I could find out to have attempted qualifying in Indy 500 between 1950-60 was a Belgian who went by the name Charles Van Acker, in 1950. And he never raced F1. And in 1957 Giuseppe Farina attempted to take part, but his car was destroyed by his team mate. However, Jack Brabham finished 9th in 1961, but he's not European and Indy 500 was not a part of the F1 Championship anymore then.
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Ide wrote:Does anyone know if any of the European drivers at the time attempted to qualify during the '50-'60 period? I'm aware that Ascari attempted the race and didn't do all that well, did any other driver make an effort during the time?

The only European (apart from Ascari) I could find out to have attempted qualifying in Indy 500 between 1950-60 was a Belgian who went by the name Charles Van Acker, in 1950. And he never raced F1. And in 1957 Giuseppe Farina attempted to take part, but his car was destroyed by his team mate. However, Jack Brabham finished 9th in 1961, but he's not European and Indy 500 was not a part of the F1 Championship anymore then.


As far as I'm aware, that's about it. In the sixties, when it wasn't counting as a F1 race anymore, more drivers gave it a go. But in the 50's transportation was a big problem. Doing the 500 meant you would miss at least one GP (mostly the Monaco). The cars had to be transported by ocean liner, which took a lot of time.
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Cynon wrote:If that is the case, does this mean that A.J. Foyt, who is seen as the greatest racing driver of all time, qualifies for reject status?! :shock:
Is this a time without the likes of Senna and Schumacher and Fangio and Moss and Prost and Clark and Stewart and Ascari and Lauda and Rindt and Hill and Piquet and Mansell and Brabham and Rosberg?
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Cynon wrote:If that is the case, does this mean that A.J. Foyt, who is seen as the greatest racing driver of all time, qualifies for reject status?! :shock:
Is this a time without the likes of Senna and Schumacher and Fangio and Moss and Prost and Clark and Stewart and Ascari and Lauda and Rindt and Hill and Piquet and Mansell and Brabham and Rosberg?

Lest we forget Rosemeyer, Varzi, Andretti, Nuvolari, Lavaggi, Ickx, and Fittipaldi. Foyt must have been in that parallel universe where everything spins in anti-clockwise circles...
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RejectSteve wrote:
Captain Hammer wrote:
Cynon wrote:If that is the case, does this mean that A.J. Foyt, who is seen as the greatest racing driver of all time, qualifies for reject status?! :shock:

Is this a time without the likes of Senna and Schumacher and Fangio and Moss and Prost and Clark and Stewart and Ascari and Lauda and Rindt and Hill and Piquet and Mansell and Brabham and Rosberg?

Lest we forget Rosemeyer, Varzi, Andretti, Nuvolari, Lavaggi, Ickx, and Fittipaldi. Foyt must have been in that parallel universe where everything spins in anti-clockwise circles...

Well, he does come from that strange and confusing land where only one country competes in World Series Baseball and the metric system doesn't exist. For the "Greatest Racing Driver of All Time", AJ Foyt didn't score many points in Formula One. in fact, if my memory is correct, he didn't score any.
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Captain Hammer wrote:
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Captain Hammer wrote:Is this a time without the likes of Senna and Schumacher and Fangio and Moss and Prost and Clark and Stewart and Ascari and Lauda and Rindt and Hill and Piquet and Mansell and Brabham and Rosberg?

Lest we forget Rosemeyer, Varzi, Andretti, Nuvolari, Lavaggi, Ickx, and Fittipaldi. Foyt must have been in that parallel universe where everything spins in anti-clockwise circles...

Well, he does come from that strange and confusing land where only one country competes in World Series Baseball and the metric system doesn't exist. For the "Greatest Racing Driver of All Time", AJ Foyt didn't score many points in Formula One. in fact, if my memory is correct, he didn't score any.


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I know Jim Clark won the Indy 500, but by then, it didnt count towards F1
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Talk about resurrecting a thread!
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Sorry. I dint know somebody had resurrected it. I just seen it as newly posted and presumed it was new :?
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Collieafc wrote:Sorry. I dint know somebody had resurrected it. I just seen it as newly posted and presumed it was new :?

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