With some other alternative championship threads coming to an end, I thought I'd start by own! In football, there is something called the Unofficial Football World Championship, where the title of World Champion is given on a boxing style champion vs challenger system. Starting from the first international game ever played, someone has worked out who would have held the title on a knockout basis (i.e. a team will keep the title until they lose a match, and the team who beat them then gain the title). I was thinking about how something similar could work in F1:
The rules would be as follows:
The first title holder would be Farina (who finished 1st in the first race of the 1950 season).
The first challenger would be Fagioli (who finished 2nd in the first race of the 1950 season).
In the second race of the season, the driver who finishes the highest gets the title.
The next challenger will be the highest placed finisher in the race (other than the title holder and challenger).
In the event that both drivers retire, the holder keeps the title.
In the event that the driver shares a car with the challenger, the holder keeps the title.
If a driver retires or dies in possession of the title, it will be passed on to the winner of the next race.
If the challenger does not race in the next race, the title holder keeps the title and counts a win.
If neither the title holder nor the challenger race in the next race, the title is passed onto the winner of the next race.
Indianapolis 500 will be ignored.
Let's see how this works!
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Re: F1 Knockout Cup
1950
1950 Britain - Giuseppe Farina (1st) beat Luigi Fagioli (2nd)
1950 Monaco - Giuseppe Farina (ret) beat Luigi Fagioli (ret)
1950 Switzerland - Giuseppe Farina (1st) beat Juan Manuel Fangio (ret)
1950 Belgium - Giuseppe Farina (4th) lost to Luigi Fagioli (2nd)
1950 France - Luigi Fagioli (2nd) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (1st)
1950 Italy - Juan Manuel Fangio (ret) lost to Louis Rosier (4th)
Total wins:
Giuseppe Farina - 3
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Juan Manuel Fangio - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
1950 Britain - Giuseppe Farina (1st) beat Luigi Fagioli (2nd)
1950 Monaco - Giuseppe Farina (ret) beat Luigi Fagioli (ret)
1950 Switzerland - Giuseppe Farina (1st) beat Juan Manuel Fangio (ret)
1950 Belgium - Giuseppe Farina (4th) lost to Luigi Fagioli (2nd)
1950 France - Luigi Fagioli (2nd) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (1st)
1950 Italy - Juan Manuel Fangio (ret) lost to Louis Rosier (4th)
Total wins:
Giuseppe Farina - 3
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Juan Manuel Fangio - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
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1951
1951 Switzerland - Louis Rosier (9th) lost to Giuseppe Farina (3rd)
1951 Belgium - Giuseppe Farina (1st) beat Juan Manuel Fangio (9th)
1951 France - Giuseppe Farina (5th) lost to Alberto Ascari (2nd)
1951 Britain - Alberto Ascari (ret) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd)
1951 Germany - Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd) beat Jose Froilan Gonzalez (3rd)
1951 Italy - Juan Manuel Fangio (ret) lost to Alberto Ascari (1st)
1951 Spain - Alberto Ascari (4th) lost to Jose Froilan Gonzalez (2nd)
Juan Manuel Fangio was selected as challenger for the 1951 British GP, although he won the French GP alongside Luigi Fagioli. Fagioli did not race in the 1951 British GP.
Total wins:
Giuseppe Farina - 5
Juan Manuel Fangio - 3
Alberto Ascari - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
1951 Switzerland - Louis Rosier (9th) lost to Giuseppe Farina (3rd)
1951 Belgium - Giuseppe Farina (1st) beat Juan Manuel Fangio (9th)
1951 France - Giuseppe Farina (5th) lost to Alberto Ascari (2nd)
1951 Britain - Alberto Ascari (ret) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd)
1951 Germany - Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd) beat Jose Froilan Gonzalez (3rd)
1951 Italy - Juan Manuel Fangio (ret) lost to Alberto Ascari (1st)
1951 Spain - Alberto Ascari (4th) lost to Jose Froilan Gonzalez (2nd)
Juan Manuel Fangio was selected as challenger for the 1951 British GP, although he won the French GP alongside Luigi Fagioli. Fagioli did not race in the 1951 British GP.
Total wins:
Giuseppe Farina - 5
Juan Manuel Fangio - 3
Alberto Ascari - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
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1952
1952 Switzerland - neither Jose Froilan Gonzalez nor Juan Manuel Fangio started. Title awarded to Piero Taruffi (race winner). 2nd placed Rudolf Fischer becomes challenger.
1952 Belgium - Piero Taruffi (ret) beat Rudolf Fischer (did not start)
1952 France - Piero Taruffi (3rd) lost to Alberto Ascari (1st)
1952 Britain - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Giuseppe Farina (6th)
1952 Germany - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Piero Taruffi (4th)
1952 Netherlands - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Giuseppe Farina (2nd)
1952 Italy - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Luigi Villoresi (3rd)
Total wins:
Alberto Ascari - 7
Giuseppe Farina - 5
Juan Manuel Fangio - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
1952 Switzerland - neither Jose Froilan Gonzalez nor Juan Manuel Fangio started. Title awarded to Piero Taruffi (race winner). 2nd placed Rudolf Fischer becomes challenger.
1952 Belgium - Piero Taruffi (ret) beat Rudolf Fischer (did not start)
1952 France - Piero Taruffi (3rd) lost to Alberto Ascari (1st)
1952 Britain - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Giuseppe Farina (6th)
1952 Germany - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Piero Taruffi (4th)
1952 Netherlands - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Giuseppe Farina (2nd)
1952 Italy - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Luigi Villoresi (3rd)
Total wins:
Alberto Ascari - 7
Giuseppe Farina - 5
Juan Manuel Fangio - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
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1953
1953 Argentina - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Jose Froilan Gonzalez (3rd)
1953 Netherlands - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Luigi Villoresi (ret)
1953 Belgium - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Giuseppe Farina (ret)
1953 France - Alberto Ascari (4th) beat Luigi Villoresi (6th)
1953 Britain - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Mike Hawthorn (5th)
1953 Germany - Alberto Ascari (8th) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd)
1953 Switzerland - Juan Manuel Fangio (4th) lost to Giuseppe Farina (2nd)
1953 Italy - Giuseppe Farina (2nd) beat Alberto Ascari (ret)
Total wins:
Alberto Ascari - 12
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Juan Manuel Fangio - 4
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
1953 Argentina - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Jose Froilan Gonzalez (3rd)
1953 Netherlands - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Luigi Villoresi (ret)
1953 Belgium - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Giuseppe Farina (ret)
1953 France - Alberto Ascari (4th) beat Luigi Villoresi (6th)
1953 Britain - Alberto Ascari (1st) beat Mike Hawthorn (5th)
1953 Germany - Alberto Ascari (8th) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd)
1953 Switzerland - Juan Manuel Fangio (4th) lost to Giuseppe Farina (2nd)
1953 Italy - Giuseppe Farina (2nd) beat Alberto Ascari (ret)
Total wins:
Alberto Ascari - 12
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Juan Manuel Fangio - 4
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
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1954
1954 Argentina - Giuseppe Farina (2nd) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (1st)
1954 Belgium - Juan Manuel Fangio (1st) beat Jose Froilan Gonzalez (4th)
1954 France - Juan Manuel Fangio (1st) beat Maurice Trintignant (ret)
1954 Britain - Juan Manuel Fangio (4th) beat Karl Kling (7th)
1954 Germany - Juan Manuel Fangio (1st) beat Jose Froilan Gonzalez (2nd)
1954 Switzerland - Juan Manuel Fangio (1st) beat Mike Hawthorn (ret)
1954 Italy - Juan Manuel Fangio (1st) beat Jose Froilan Gonzalez (3rd)
1954 Spain - Juan Manuel Fangio (3rd) lost to Mike Hawthorn (1st)
Jose Froilan Gonzalez shared 2nd place at the 1954 German GP with Mike Hawthorn.
Total wins:
Alberto Ascari - 12
Juan Manuel Fangio - 11
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
1954 Argentina - Giuseppe Farina (2nd) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (1st)
1954 Belgium - Juan Manuel Fangio (1st) beat Jose Froilan Gonzalez (4th)
1954 France - Juan Manuel Fangio (1st) beat Maurice Trintignant (ret)
1954 Britain - Juan Manuel Fangio (4th) beat Karl Kling (7th)
1954 Germany - Juan Manuel Fangio (1st) beat Jose Froilan Gonzalez (2nd)
1954 Switzerland - Juan Manuel Fangio (1st) beat Mike Hawthorn (ret)
1954 Italy - Juan Manuel Fangio (1st) beat Jose Froilan Gonzalez (3rd)
1954 Spain - Juan Manuel Fangio (3rd) lost to Mike Hawthorn (1st)
Jose Froilan Gonzalez shared 2nd place at the 1954 German GP with Mike Hawthorn.
Total wins:
Alberto Ascari - 12
Juan Manuel Fangio - 11
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
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1955
1955 Argentina - Mike Hawthorn (DNS) lost to Luigi Musso (7th)
1955 Monaco - Luigi Musso (ret) beat Juan Manuel Fangio (ret)
1955 Belgium - Luigi Musso (7th) lost to Maurice Trintignant (6th)
1955 Netherlands - Maurice Trintignant (ret) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (1st)
1955 Britain - Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd) lost to Stirling Moss (1st)
1955 Italy - Stirling Moss (ret) beat Karl Kling (ret)
Total wins:
Alberto Ascari - 12
Juan Manuel Fangio - 12
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Musso - 2
Stirling Moss - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
1955 Argentina - Mike Hawthorn (DNS) lost to Luigi Musso (7th)
1955 Monaco - Luigi Musso (ret) beat Juan Manuel Fangio (ret)
1955 Belgium - Luigi Musso (7th) lost to Maurice Trintignant (6th)
1955 Netherlands - Maurice Trintignant (ret) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (1st)
1955 Britain - Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd) lost to Stirling Moss (1st)
1955 Italy - Stirling Moss (ret) beat Karl Kling (ret)
Total wins:
Alberto Ascari - 12
Juan Manuel Fangio - 12
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Musso - 2
Stirling Moss - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
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This is interesting! This way, many drivers win their first title lots earlier than they did in reality. At some point, you should make a table of the championship history, with an overview of how long champions held title, the date they gained/lost it etc.
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Waris wrote:This is interesting! This way, many drivers win their first title lots earlier than they did in reality. At some point, you should make a table of the championship history, with an overview of how long champions held title, the date they gained/lost it etc.
Yeah, I might do that at the end. I'll do some more on Thursday (they don't take very long), but then I'm on holiday for a while!
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Got back to this again!
1956
1956 Argentina - Stirling Moss (ret) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (1st)
1956 Monaco - Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd) beat Luigi Musso (ret)
1956 Belgium - Juan Manuel Fangio (ret) lost to Stirling Moss (3rd)
1956 France - Stirling Moss (5th) lost to Peter Collins (1st)
1956 Britain - Peter Collins (2nd) beat Eugenio Castellotti (10th)
1956 Germany - Peter Collins (ret) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (1st)
1956 Italy - Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd) lost to Stirling Moss (1st)
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 15
Alberto Ascari - 12
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Stirling Moss - 4
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Musso - 2
Peter Collins - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
1956
1956 Argentina - Stirling Moss (ret) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (1st)
1956 Monaco - Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd) beat Luigi Musso (ret)
1956 Belgium - Juan Manuel Fangio (ret) lost to Stirling Moss (3rd)
1956 France - Stirling Moss (5th) lost to Peter Collins (1st)
1956 Britain - Peter Collins (2nd) beat Eugenio Castellotti (10th)
1956 Germany - Peter Collins (ret) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (1st)
1956 Italy - Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd) lost to Stirling Moss (1st)
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 15
Alberto Ascari - 12
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Stirling Moss - 4
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Musso - 2
Peter Collins - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
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1957
1957 Argentina - Stirling Moss (8th) lost to Peter Collins (6th)
1957 Monaco - Peter Collins (ret) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (1st)
1957 France - Juan Manuel Fangio (1st) beat Tony Brooks (DNS)
1957 Britain - Juan Manuel Fangio (ret) lost to Luigi Musso (2nd)
1957 Germany - Luigi Musso (4th) beat Stirling Moss (5th)
1957 Pescara - Luigi Musso (ret) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd)
1957 Italy - Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd) lost to Stirling Moss (1st)
Stirling Moss shared the win with Brooks in Britain, but drove more laps and therefore became the challenger for Germany.
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Stirling Moss - 5
Luigi Musso - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
1957 Argentina - Stirling Moss (8th) lost to Peter Collins (6th)
1957 Monaco - Peter Collins (ret) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (1st)
1957 France - Juan Manuel Fangio (1st) beat Tony Brooks (DNS)
1957 Britain - Juan Manuel Fangio (ret) lost to Luigi Musso (2nd)
1957 Germany - Luigi Musso (4th) beat Stirling Moss (5th)
1957 Pescara - Luigi Musso (ret) lost to Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd)
1957 Italy - Juan Manuel Fangio (2nd) lost to Stirling Moss (1st)
Stirling Moss shared the win with Brooks in Britain, but drove more laps and therefore became the challenger for Germany.
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Stirling Moss - 5
Luigi Musso - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
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Some more!
1958
A tragic season
1958 Argentina - Stirling Moss (1st) beat Wolfgang von Trips (DNS)
1958 Monaco - Stirling Moss (ret) lost to Luigi Musso (2nd)
1958 Netherlands - Luigi Musso (7th) beat Maurice Trintignant (9th)
1958 Belgium - Luigi Musso (ret) beat Stirling Moss (ret)
1958 France - Luigi Musso (ret) beat Tony Brooks (ret)
Luigi Musso dies at the 1958 French GP in possession of the title as Tony Brooks also retires.
1958 Britain - Peter Collins (1st) - inherits title
1958 Germany - Peter Collins (ret) beat Mike Hawthorn (ret)
Peter Collins dies at the 1958 German GP in possession of the title as Mike Hawthorn also retires.
1958 Portugal - Stirling Moss (1st) - inherits title
1958 Italy - Stirling Moss (ret) lost to Mike Hawthorn (2nd)
1958 Morocco - Mike Hawthorn (2nd) beat Tony Brooks (ret)
Stuart Lewis-Evans died at the Morocco GP.
Mike Hawthorn died in the off season, therefore the winner of the first race in 1959 will inherit the title.
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Luigi Musso - 8
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Stirling Moss - 7
Peter Collins - 5
Mike Hawthorn - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
1958
A tragic season
1958 Argentina - Stirling Moss (1st) beat Wolfgang von Trips (DNS)
1958 Monaco - Stirling Moss (ret) lost to Luigi Musso (2nd)
1958 Netherlands - Luigi Musso (7th) beat Maurice Trintignant (9th)
1958 Belgium - Luigi Musso (ret) beat Stirling Moss (ret)
1958 France - Luigi Musso (ret) beat Tony Brooks (ret)
Luigi Musso dies at the 1958 French GP in possession of the title as Tony Brooks also retires.
1958 Britain - Peter Collins (1st) - inherits title
1958 Germany - Peter Collins (ret) beat Mike Hawthorn (ret)
Peter Collins dies at the 1958 German GP in possession of the title as Mike Hawthorn also retires.
1958 Portugal - Stirling Moss (1st) - inherits title
1958 Italy - Stirling Moss (ret) lost to Mike Hawthorn (2nd)
1958 Morocco - Mike Hawthorn (2nd) beat Tony Brooks (ret)
Stuart Lewis-Evans died at the Morocco GP.
Mike Hawthorn died in the off season, therefore the winner of the first race in 1959 will inherit the title.
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Luigi Musso - 8
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Stirling Moss - 7
Peter Collins - 5
Mike Hawthorn - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
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1959
1959 Monaco - Jack Brabham (1st) - inherits title
1959 Netherlands - Jack Brabham (2nd) beat Tony Brooks (ret)
1959 France - Jack Brabham (3rd) beat Jo Bonnier (ret)
1959 Britain - Jack Brabham (1st) beat Tony Brooks (ret)
1959 Germany - Jack Brabham (ret) beat Stirling Moss (ret)
1959 Portugal - Jack Brabham (ret) lost to Tony Brooks (9th)
1959 Italy - Tony Brooks (ret) lost to Stirling Moss (1st)
1959 USA - Stirling Moss (ret) beat Phil Hill (ret)
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Stirling Moss - 7
Jack Brabham - 5
Luigi Musso - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
1959 Monaco - Jack Brabham (1st) - inherits title
1959 Netherlands - Jack Brabham (2nd) beat Tony Brooks (ret)
1959 France - Jack Brabham (3rd) beat Jo Bonnier (ret)
1959 Britain - Jack Brabham (1st) beat Tony Brooks (ret)
1959 Germany - Jack Brabham (ret) beat Stirling Moss (ret)
1959 Portugal - Jack Brabham (ret) lost to Tony Brooks (9th)
1959 Italy - Tony Brooks (ret) lost to Stirling Moss (1st)
1959 USA - Stirling Moss (ret) beat Phil Hill (ret)
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Stirling Moss - 7
Jack Brabham - 5
Luigi Musso - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
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1960
1960 Argentina - Stirling Moss (3rd) lost to Bruce McLaren (1st)
1960 Monaco - Bruce McLaren (2nd) beat Cliff Allison (DNQ)
1960 Netherlands - Bruce McLaren (ret) lost to Jack Brabham (1st)
1960 Belgium - Jack Brabham (1st) beat Innes Ireland (ret)
1960 France - Jack Brabham (1st) beat Bruce McLaren (3rd)
1960 Britain - Jack Brabham (1st) beat Olivier Gendebien (9th)
1960 Portugal - Jack Brabham (1st) beat John Surtees (ret)
1960 Italy - neither Jack Brabham nor Bruce McLaren started. Title awarded to Phil Hill (race winner). 2nd placed Richie Ginther becomes challenger.
1960 United States - Phil Hill (6th) beat Richie Ginther (DNS)
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Jack Brabham - 10
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Stirling Moss - 7
Luigi Musso - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Bruce McLaren - 2
Phil Hill - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
1960 Argentina - Stirling Moss (3rd) lost to Bruce McLaren (1st)
1960 Monaco - Bruce McLaren (2nd) beat Cliff Allison (DNQ)
1960 Netherlands - Bruce McLaren (ret) lost to Jack Brabham (1st)
1960 Belgium - Jack Brabham (1st) beat Innes Ireland (ret)
1960 France - Jack Brabham (1st) beat Bruce McLaren (3rd)
1960 Britain - Jack Brabham (1st) beat Olivier Gendebien (9th)
1960 Portugal - Jack Brabham (1st) beat John Surtees (ret)
1960 Italy - neither Jack Brabham nor Bruce McLaren started. Title awarded to Phil Hill (race winner). 2nd placed Richie Ginther becomes challenger.
1960 United States - Phil Hill (6th) beat Richie Ginther (DNS)
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Jack Brabham - 10
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Stirling Moss - 7
Luigi Musso - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Bruce McLaren - 2
Phil Hill - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
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Viresh wrote:Now it's fun to watch.
I forgot about this. Viresh, you are good for something.
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Big thread resurrection! Thought this would be good to pick up again in the off season.
1961
1961 Monaco - Phil Hill (3rd) lost to Stirling Moss (1st)
1961 Netherlands - Stirling Moss (4th) beat Richie Ginther (5th)
1961 Belgium - Stirling Moss (8th) lost to Wolfgang von Trips (2nd)
1961 France - Wolfgang von Trips (ret) lost to Phil Hill (9th)
1961 Britain - Phil Hill (2nd) beat Giancarlo Baghetti (ret)
1961 Germany - Phil Hill (3rd) lost to Wolfgang von Trips (2nd)
1961 Italy - Wolfgang von Trips (ret) beat Stirling Moss (ret)
1961 United States - Wolfgang von Trips was killed during the 1961 Italian Grand Prix. Innes Ireland inherits the title by winning in the United States.
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Jack Brabham - 10
Stirling Moss - 9
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Luigi Musso - 4
Phil Hill - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Wolfgang von Trips - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Bruce McLaren - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
Innes Ireland - 1
1961
1961 Monaco - Phil Hill (3rd) lost to Stirling Moss (1st)
1961 Netherlands - Stirling Moss (4th) beat Richie Ginther (5th)
1961 Belgium - Stirling Moss (8th) lost to Wolfgang von Trips (2nd)
1961 France - Wolfgang von Trips (ret) lost to Phil Hill (9th)
1961 Britain - Phil Hill (2nd) beat Giancarlo Baghetti (ret)
1961 Germany - Phil Hill (3rd) lost to Wolfgang von Trips (2nd)
1961 Italy - Wolfgang von Trips (ret) beat Stirling Moss (ret)
1961 United States - Wolfgang von Trips was killed during the 1961 Italian Grand Prix. Innes Ireland inherits the title by winning in the United States.
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Jack Brabham - 10
Stirling Moss - 9
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Luigi Musso - 4
Phil Hill - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Wolfgang von Trips - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Bruce McLaren - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
Innes Ireland - 1
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Re: F1 Knockout Cup
1962
1962 Netherlands - Innes Ireland (ret) beat Dan Gurney (ret)
1962 Monaco - Innes Ireland (ret) lost to Graham Hill (6th)
1962 Belgium - Graham Hill (2nd) beat Bruce McLaren (ret)
1962 France - Graham Hill (9th) beat Jim Clark (ret)
1962 Britain - Graham Hill (4th) beat Dan Gurney (9th)
1962 Germany - Graham Hill (1st) beat Jim Clark (4th)
1962 Italy - Graham Hill (1st) beat John Surtees (ret)
1962 United States - Graham Hill (2nd) beat Richie Ginther (ret)
1962 South Africa - Graham Hill (1st) beat Jim Clark (ret)
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Jack Brabham - 10
Stirling Moss - 9
Graham Hill - 8
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Luigi Musso - 4
Phil Hill - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Wolfgang von Trips - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Bruce McLaren - 2
Innes Ireland - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
1962 Netherlands - Innes Ireland (ret) beat Dan Gurney (ret)
1962 Monaco - Innes Ireland (ret) lost to Graham Hill (6th)
1962 Belgium - Graham Hill (2nd) beat Bruce McLaren (ret)
1962 France - Graham Hill (9th) beat Jim Clark (ret)
1962 Britain - Graham Hill (4th) beat Dan Gurney (9th)
1962 Germany - Graham Hill (1st) beat Jim Clark (4th)
1962 Italy - Graham Hill (1st) beat John Surtees (ret)
1962 United States - Graham Hill (2nd) beat Richie Ginther (ret)
1962 South Africa - Graham Hill (1st) beat Jim Clark (ret)
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Jack Brabham - 10
Stirling Moss - 9
Graham Hill - 8
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Luigi Musso - 4
Phil Hill - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Wolfgang von Trips - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Bruce McLaren - 2
Innes Ireland - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
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Re: F1 Knockout Cup
1963
1963 Monaco - Graham Hill (1st) beat Bruce McLaren (3rd)
1963 Belgium - Graham Hill (ret) lost to Richie Ginther (4th)
1963 Netherlands - Richie Ginther (5th) lost to Jim Clark (1st)
1963 France - Jim Clark (1st) beat Dan Gurney (5th)
1963 Britain - Jim Clark (1st) beat Tony Maggs (9th)
1963 Germany - Jim Clark (2nd) lost to John Surtees (1st)
1963 Italy - John Surtees (ret) lost to Richie Ginther (2nd)
1963 United States - Richie Ginther (2nd) beat Jim Clark (3rd)
1963 Mexico - Richie Ginther (3rd) beat Graham Hill (4th)
1963 South Africa - Richie Ginther (ret) lost to Jim Clark (1st)
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Jack Brabham - 10
Stirling Moss - 9
Graham Hill - 9
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Luigi Musso - 4
Phil Hill - 4
Richie Ginther - 4
Jim Clark - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Wolfgang von Trips - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Bruce McLaren - 2
Innes Ireland - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
John Surtees - 1
1963 Monaco - Graham Hill (1st) beat Bruce McLaren (3rd)
1963 Belgium - Graham Hill (ret) lost to Richie Ginther (4th)
1963 Netherlands - Richie Ginther (5th) lost to Jim Clark (1st)
1963 France - Jim Clark (1st) beat Dan Gurney (5th)
1963 Britain - Jim Clark (1st) beat Tony Maggs (9th)
1963 Germany - Jim Clark (2nd) lost to John Surtees (1st)
1963 Italy - John Surtees (ret) lost to Richie Ginther (2nd)
1963 United States - Richie Ginther (2nd) beat Jim Clark (3rd)
1963 Mexico - Richie Ginther (3rd) beat Graham Hill (4th)
1963 South Africa - Richie Ginther (ret) lost to Jim Clark (1st)
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Jack Brabham - 10
Stirling Moss - 9
Graham Hill - 9
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Luigi Musso - 4
Phil Hill - 4
Richie Ginther - 4
Jim Clark - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Wolfgang von Trips - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Bruce McLaren - 2
Innes Ireland - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
John Surtees - 1
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Re: F1 Knockout Cup
1964
1964 Monaco - Jim Clark (4th) beat Dan Gurney (ret)
1964 Netherlands - Jim Clark (1st) beat Graham Hill (4th)
1964 Belgium - Jim Clark (1st) beat John Surtees (ret)
1964 France - Jim Clark (ret) lost to Bruce McLaren (6th)
1964 Britain - Bruce McLaren (ret) lost to Dan Gurney (13th)
1964 Germany - Dan Gurney (10th) beat Jim Clark (ret)
1964 Austria - Dan Gurney (ret) beat John Surtees (ret)
1964 Italy - Dan Gurney (10th) lost to Lorenzo Bandini (3rd)
1964 United States - Lorenzo Bandini (ret) lost to John Surtees (2nd)
1964 Mexico - John Surtees (2nd) beat Graham Hill (11th)
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Jack Brabham - 10
Stirling Moss - 9
Graham Hill - 9
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Jim Clark - 7
Luigi Musso - 4
Phil Hill - 4
Richie Ginther - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Wolfgang von Trips - 3
Bruce McLaren - 3
Dan Gurney - 3
John Surtees - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Innes Ireland - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
Lorenzo Bandini - 1
John Surtees - 1
1964 Monaco - Jim Clark (4th) beat Dan Gurney (ret)
1964 Netherlands - Jim Clark (1st) beat Graham Hill (4th)
1964 Belgium - Jim Clark (1st) beat John Surtees (ret)
1964 France - Jim Clark (ret) lost to Bruce McLaren (6th)
1964 Britain - Bruce McLaren (ret) lost to Dan Gurney (13th)
1964 Germany - Dan Gurney (10th) beat Jim Clark (ret)
1964 Austria - Dan Gurney (ret) beat John Surtees (ret)
1964 Italy - Dan Gurney (10th) lost to Lorenzo Bandini (3rd)
1964 United States - Lorenzo Bandini (ret) lost to John Surtees (2nd)
1964 Mexico - John Surtees (2nd) beat Graham Hill (11th)
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Jack Brabham - 10
Stirling Moss - 9
Graham Hill - 9
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Jim Clark - 7
Luigi Musso - 4
Phil Hill - 4
Richie Ginther - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Wolfgang von Trips - 3
Bruce McLaren - 3
Dan Gurney - 3
John Surtees - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Innes Ireland - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
Lorenzo Bandini - 1
John Surtees - 1
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Re: F1 Knockout Cup
1965
1965 South Africa - John Surtees (2nd) beat Dan Gurney (ret)
1965 Monaco - John Surtees (4th) beat Jim Clark (Did not enter, competing at Indy 500)
1965 Belgium - John Surtees (ret) lost to Graham Hill (5th)
1965 France - Graham Hill (5th) lost to Jim Clark (1st)
1965 Britain - Jim Clark (1st) beat Jackie Stewart (5th)
1965 Netherlands - Jim Clark (1st) beat Graham Hill (4th)
1965 Germany - Jim Clark (1st) beat Jackie Stewart (ret)
1965 Italy - Jim Clark (10th) lost to Graham Hill (2nd)
1965 United States - Graham Hill (1st) beat Jackie Stewart (ret)
1965 Mexico - Graham Hill (ret) lost to Dan Gurney (2nd)
Dan Gurney prevents a British whitewash there!
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Graham Hill - 12
Jim Clark - 11
Jack Brabham - 10
Stirling Moss - 9
Giuseppe Farina - 7
John Surtees - 5
Luigi Musso - 4
Phil Hill - 4
Richie Ginther - 4
Dan Gurney - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Wolfgang von Trips - 3
Bruce McLaren - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Innes Ireland - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
Lorenzo Bandini - 1
1965 South Africa - John Surtees (2nd) beat Dan Gurney (ret)
1965 Monaco - John Surtees (4th) beat Jim Clark (Did not enter, competing at Indy 500)
1965 Belgium - John Surtees (ret) lost to Graham Hill (5th)
1965 France - Graham Hill (5th) lost to Jim Clark (1st)
1965 Britain - Jim Clark (1st) beat Jackie Stewart (5th)
1965 Netherlands - Jim Clark (1st) beat Graham Hill (4th)
1965 Germany - Jim Clark (1st) beat Jackie Stewart (ret)
1965 Italy - Jim Clark (10th) lost to Graham Hill (2nd)
1965 United States - Graham Hill (1st) beat Jackie Stewart (ret)
1965 Mexico - Graham Hill (ret) lost to Dan Gurney (2nd)
Dan Gurney prevents a British whitewash there!
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Alberto Ascari - 12
Graham Hill - 12
Jim Clark - 11
Jack Brabham - 10
Stirling Moss - 9
Giuseppe Farina - 7
John Surtees - 5
Luigi Musso - 4
Phil Hill - 4
Richie Ginther - 4
Dan Gurney - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Wolfgang von Trips - 3
Bruce McLaren - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Innes Ireland - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
Lorenzo Bandini - 1
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Re: F1 Knockout Cup
1966
1966 Monaco - Dan Gurney (DNS) lost to Richie Ginther (ret)
1966 Belgium - Richie Ginther (5th) beat Jackie Stewart (ret)
1966 France - Richie Ginther (DNS) lost to John Surtees (ret)
1966 Britain - John Surtees (ret) lost to Jack Brabham (1st)
1966 Netherlands - Jack Brabham (1st) beat Denny Hulme (ret)
1966 Germany - Jack Brabham (1st) beat Graham Hill (4th)
1966 Italy - Jack Brabham (ret) beat John Surtees (ret)
1966 United States - Jack Brabham (ret) beat Ludovico Scarfiotti (DNS)
1966 Mexico - Jack Brabham (2nd) beat Jim Clark (ret)
Lots of DNSs help Brabham!
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Jack Brabham - 16
Alberto Ascari - 12
Graham Hill - 12
Jim Clark - 11
Stirling Moss - 9
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Richie Ginther - 6
John Surtees - 6
Luigi Musso - 4
Phil Hill - 4
Dan Gurney - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Wolfgang von Trips - 3
Bruce McLaren - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Innes Ireland - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
Lorenzo Bandini - 1
1966 Monaco - Dan Gurney (DNS) lost to Richie Ginther (ret)
1966 Belgium - Richie Ginther (5th) beat Jackie Stewart (ret)
1966 France - Richie Ginther (DNS) lost to John Surtees (ret)
1966 Britain - John Surtees (ret) lost to Jack Brabham (1st)
1966 Netherlands - Jack Brabham (1st) beat Denny Hulme (ret)
1966 Germany - Jack Brabham (1st) beat Graham Hill (4th)
1966 Italy - Jack Brabham (ret) beat John Surtees (ret)
1966 United States - Jack Brabham (ret) beat Ludovico Scarfiotti (DNS)
1966 Mexico - Jack Brabham (2nd) beat Jim Clark (ret)
Lots of DNSs help Brabham!
Total wins:
Juan Manuel Fangio - 18
Jack Brabham - 16
Alberto Ascari - 12
Graham Hill - 12
Jim Clark - 11
Stirling Moss - 9
Giuseppe Farina - 7
Richie Ginther - 6
John Surtees - 6
Luigi Musso - 4
Phil Hill - 4
Dan Gurney - 4
Peter Collins - 3
Wolfgang von Trips - 3
Bruce McLaren - 3
Piero Taruffi - 2
Innes Ireland - 2
Luigi Fagioli - 1
Louis Rosier - 1
Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 1
Mike Hawthorn - 1
Maurice Trintignant - 1
Tony Brooks - 1
Lorenzo Bandini - 1
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