RIP Manor Racing (2010-2017)

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 21 Apr 2016, 03:59

AndreaModa wrote:It's been calculated that Haryanto needs 12.4 million text messages to keep his drive. From what I've read, most of the money has been paid up, there's this additional element required to keep his seat that isn't coming from sponsors, hence the fundraiser.

Indonesian source (not sure on reliability!)

I can confirm this fundraising, I have sent one already

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 21 Apr 2016, 08:10

AxelP800 wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:It's been calculated that Haryanto needs 12.4 million text messages to keep his drive. From what I've read, most of the money has been paid up, there's this additional element required to keep his seat that isn't coming from sponsors, hence the fundraiser.

Indonesian source (not sure on reliability!)

I can confirm this fundraising, I have sent one already

Minimum 3 per day. Are you a true Indonesian or a traitor to your country? Haryanto's future lies in your hands and the only one to blame for a potential seat loss is you!

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 21 Apr 2016, 09:21

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:
DanielPT wrote:We already had one case albeit a bit different. Kamui Kobayashi's return to Caterham was at least partially crowdfunded. If it worked for him, it can work for Haryanto.

watka wrote:Given how the driver of the day vote goes every race, I think this is the one instance that crowdfunding could actually work (in a long-term way) in F1!

I don't think they are really connected. It is harder to get in. Once you are there, results alone can keep you there. The problem with most non paying experienced journeymen in F1 is that, results wise, there is little to chose between them and talented pay-drivers, so teams usually go with the latter specially if the money can hire people to do the development the journeyman brings.

As for the long term paying wise, if the money keeps flowing in, team doesn't care if it is sponsorship, crowdfunding or, dare I say it, illegal. And crowdfunding is just like being sponsored by a group of people. A large one.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 21 Apr 2016, 10:37

This wrote:
AxelP800 wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:It's been calculated that Haryanto needs 12.4 million text messages to keep his drive. From what I've read, most of the money has been paid up, there's this additional element required to keep his seat that isn't coming from sponsors, hence the fundraiser.

Indonesian source (not sure on reliability!)

I can confirm this fundraising, I have sent one already

Minimum 3 per day. Are you a true Indonesian or a traitor to your country? Haryanto's future lies in your hands and the only one to blame for a potential seat loss is you!

I'm sorry that joke is not funny. Not even 9 * 10^-infinite

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 22 Apr 2016, 01:03

AxelP800 wrote:
This wrote:
AxelP800 wrote:
I can confirm this fundraising, I have sent one already

Minimum 3 per day. Are you a true Indonesian or a traitor to your country? Haryanto's future lies in your hands and the only one to blame for a potential seat loss is you!

Hm yeah, i should've realised you probably hear some of that shite more often in your country.

Post by **Miguel98** » 26 Apr 2016, 13:29

John Booth has signed with... Toro Rosso!

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 26 Apr 2016, 18:36

Miguel98 wrote:John Booth has signed with... Toro Rosso!

Who would have seen that coming?
I wonder what they see in him. He surely must be bullish about the move, though ;-)

The Chicane · Post by **The Chicane** » 30 Apr 2016, 18:40

I know this seems pointless but shouldn't the title of this thread be changed now the team has dropped "Marussia" from its name.

Izzyeviel · Post by **Izzyeviel** » 01 May 2016, 21:04

ChequeredFlagNope wrote:I know this seems pointless but shouldn't the title of this thread be changed now the team has dropped "Marussia" from its name.

Only if you have the agreement from every other poster

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 01 May 2016, 21:41

Are we not using the Marussia name out of contract now? Maybe that's why the old site got deleted: Marussia having their name used

Post by **Londoner** » 23 May 2016, 17:43

Yet more murmurings about Haryanto's cash not materialising...

lance_rambert · Post by **lance_rambert** » 23 May 2016, 18:11

That probably sums up how well that SMS crowdfunding campaign went. I guess we might see Rossi again at some point?

Post by **Miguel98** » 23 May 2016, 18:18

lance_rambert wrote:That probably sums up how well that SMS crowdfunding campaign went. I guess we might see Rossi again at some point?

Rossi doesn't have lots of money.

More likelly, it'll be someone like Canamassas, who has loads of money.

lance_rambert · Post by **lance_rambert** » 23 May 2016, 18:50

Miguel98 wrote:Rossi doesn't have lots of money.

But he is Manor's designated reserve driver. He'd be the first choice for the seat, right?

...and honestly, I REALLY don't want Can'tamasas anywhere near an F1 race seat...

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 23 May 2016, 19:10

Don't forget Fabio Leimer was involved with the team last year as a test/reserve/godknowswhat driver so he might be in the frame.

And Rossi does have some backing, as well as big support from the States. His good work in IndyCar will have boosted that.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 May 2016, 20:02

I'm leaning towards Jordan King. I understand he has a bit of dosh, and has been a "development driver" for them ever since the Fitzpatrick takeover.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 23 May 2016, 20:06

Biscione wrote:I'm leaning towards Jordan King. I understand he has a bit of dosh, and has been a "development driver" for them ever since the Fitzpatrick takeover.

Did his dad ever actually get involved with the team, or was that all just rumours?

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 24 May 2016, 18:14

Might a top team throw some money and get a junior driver into that seat?

Also, hasn't the glass of milk returned this year with Williams? The most exciting driver in Formula 1 history might be returning!

Post by **Miguel98** » 24 May 2016, 18:30

Rob Dylan wrote:Might a top team throw some money and get a junior driver into that seat?

Also, hasn't the glass of milk returned this year with Williams? The most exciting driver in Formula 1 history might be returning!

Williams employed both Paffet and Di Resta this season I believe :facepalm:

Post by **mario** » 24 May 2016, 19:45

Miguel98 wrote:
Rob Dylan wrote:Might a top team throw some money and get a junior driver into that seat?

Also, hasn't the glass of milk returned this year with Williams? The most exciting driver in Formula 1 history might be returning!

Williams employed both Paffet and Di Resta this season I believe

Paffett is employed as Williams's simulator test driver - as for di Resta, he is Williams's official nominated reserve driver should either Bottas or Massa be indisposed, seemingly because Williams have a preference for an experienced former driver in the wake of what happened when Bottas was injured.

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 25 May 2016, 16:08

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/124476/uncertainty-over-haryanto-manor-future
They're being quite specific in saying that Rio's currently only able to last till the Summer break.

Might we see a switch in drivers at that point?

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 25 May 2016, 17:04

Just imagine the rage of 250 million Indonesians...

lance_rambert · Post by **lance_rambert** » 25 May 2016, 17:17

Manor's Facebook page is going to look like a war zone if that actually happens. Their social media guy should be paid extra once that s___storm rolls in. Or hire whoever runs Mercedes' Facebook page. He/she seems able to handle that type of garbage.

As long as they don't ravage this forum, I'm not going to worked up about it. Maybe I'll even have a laugh from the sidelines.

Post by **Miguel98** » 26 May 2016, 09:08

Bianchi's family is taking legal action against F1, FOM and Marussia. :roll:

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 26 May 2016, 12:07

Not sure how I feel about it. If they feel it is the right thing to do, then all power to them. Unfortunately to the outsiders like myself, all I get out of it are bad memories resurfacing.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 03 Jul 2016, 22:05

Aside from the obvious headline news from Austria, did anyone else notice the return of Airbnb logos on the Manor cars? Thought that was interesting considering the deal they had last year obviously wasn't renewed.

EDIT: Looks like it's been in play longer than I thought. Story from the end of May: http://manorf1team.com/news/16-05-28/airbnb-manor-racing

And I'll just leave this here for posterity. G'wan Pascal!

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 04 Jul 2016, 06:05

Love it.

"Shall we all stand in front of Pascals garage?"

"Nah, let's stand in front of Haryantos because that makes less sense"

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 08 Jul 2016, 12:49

Unusual new sponsor program announced today by Manor.

https://www.facebook.com/ManorRacing/posts/1021045964617891:0

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 08 Jul 2016, 16:05

AndreaModa wrote:Unusual new sponsor program announced today by Manor.

https://www.facebook.com/ManorRacing/posts/1021045964617891:0

along with challenger mindset workshops and events

There are so many learnings we can trade with these companies

There are some phrases in there that I just haven't come across before. There is better, more natural-sounding English that they could use to make this more comprehensible, and yet remaining sounding like professional English.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 09 Jul 2016, 13:41

Maybe they're thinking of grabbing Ron Dennis from McLaren and are exploring as far untrialled paradigms vis-a-vis rationalising the language and vocabulary of the team with a clear intent to optimising his familiarisation with the working environment at their corporate headquarters?

Either that or they've just signed David Brent. Or Gus Hedges. Maybe both. Can I stir-fry a few other suggestions in the GP Rejects think-wok?

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 09 Jul 2016, 18:44

Yes, I rather think we've taken an unintentional walk down sidetrack avenue there!

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 21 Jul 2016, 12:15

Thomas Mayer (former Renault F1 COO, duh) is the new Manor CEO, prompting Dave Ryan to breath a sigh of relief as his workload has just been halved.

https://www.facebook.com/ManorRacing/posts/1028816967174124

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 27 Jul 2016, 14:05

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125477/haryanto-hangs-on-to-manor-seat-for-germany
The F1 community rejoices!

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 27 Jul 2016, 14:38

Rob Dylan wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125477/haryanto-hangs-on-to-manor-seat-for-germany
The F1 community rejoices!

Hurrah! And uck at iz ickle chubby face!

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 29 Jul 2016, 04:12

I expect to see Haryanto staying on for as long as his cash allows it

Post by **mario** » 29 Jul 2016, 16:07

RonDenisDeletraz wrote:I expect to see Haryanto staying on for as long as his cash allows it

That might not be very long then - Autosport are now suggesting that Ocon is now in line to replace Haryanto after the German GP, with Mercedes seemingly offering Manor a further discount on their engines in return for giving the seat to Ocon.

At this rate, it makes you wonder if perhaps Mercedes might begin to look towards a deal with Manor that mirrors the sort of deal that Haas struck with Ferrari. It could potentially be in Mercedes's interests, given it could give them a little more leverage in the paddock, whilst still being a relatively cheap way of working with another team that could help give them more data on potential candidates for a seat at the works team.

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 10 Aug 2016, 08:09

He's gone

https://twitter.com/ManorRacing/status/ ... 0034153472

EuroBrun · Post by **EuroBrun** » 10 Aug 2016, 08:22

Ocon will take Rio's seat from Spa, according to Motorsport.com.

Can't wait to see the reaction of passionate Rio's fans!

Rio has not performed that poorly though, especially in qualifying where PW is just 7-5 ahead.

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 10 Aug 2016, 08:28

EuroBrun wrote:Ocon will take Rio's seat from Spa, according to Motorsport.com.

Can't wait to see the reaction of Rio's fans!

i.e. this forum

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 10 Aug 2016, 08:43

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... -with-ocon