2016 Russian Grand Prix
2016 Russian Grand Prix
Lots of supersofts.
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AxelP800 wrote:I win Miguel98
Miguel 3-1 Axel.
Still 17 left to go
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Simtek wrote:AxelP800 wrote:I win Miguel98
Miguel 3-1 Axel.
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Now fix IWC
On a more realistic bit: I wonder why ultra softs aren't used here? The track isn't abrasive enough, and I think the US tyre would survive a lap around here with quite a bit of ease.
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Miguel98 wrote:On a more realistic bit: I wonder why ultra softs aren't used here? The track isn't abrasive enough, and I think the US tyre would survive a lap around here with quite a bit of ease.
Pirelli never (or yet) to tell us why, but I presume they fear turn 3, even if the surface is smooth
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solarcold wrote:remember: in Modern Russia Formula 1 watches YOU.
Then Formula 1 is in for some tedious viewing.
Is Sochi anywhere near you Solarcold? Are you going?
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CoopsII wrote:solarcold wrote:remember: in Modern Russia Formula 1 watches YOU.
Then Formula 1 is in for some tedious viewing.
Is Sochi anywhere near you Solarcold? Are you going?
Unfortunately no, but I'm planning to go there in sometime in future.
It's very far from me, I live at the extreme north of Russia, in Murmansk (and I like it here!).
But I've been to Sochi 7 times in childhood. It was VERY different before Olympics and F1. It was a relatively simple provincial town and I couldn't possibly imagine something like that would eventually go on there.
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solarcold wrote:It's very far from me, I live at the extreme north of Russia, in Murmansk (and I like it here!).
Looks lovely...
Looking through the images it reminds me a little of the coastal town in the north of England where my roots are (although temperature-wise that would be tropical to you). Seem like my kind of place, I'll put it on my list.
Seems like Sochi has been completely changed by all the investment which I guess is a good thing.
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Surely it's a worthy place
Now, to live in Sochi became more expensive now, on the other hand. Development of infrastructure is good, but maybe it now becomes too big for my liking.
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Row Man Gross-Gene wrote:It looks like Haas, Williams, and Red Bull are going pretty aggressive with their tire strategies. Hopefully it works out.
On the other hand, Ferrari seem to have gone very conservative. So I predict qualifying will be the usual shootout between the Mercs, a second ahead of the field. Then Ferrari will be left with egg on their faces when the safety car periods allows drivers to stay out on supersofts for longer.
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WeirdKerr wrote:For a few seconds I thought that this thread was opened about 5 to 6 months too early then realised the Russian gp was early this year..... (between this and the fact I missed the start of the Shanghai race I think I'm going senile enough to take over from Mr Ecclestone)
I had the same initial response, and I can confirm I'm not going senile (though several close acquaintances of mine will tell you that I am a bit mad, they're the ones who are insane!).
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watka wrote:Row Man Gross-Gene wrote:It looks like Haas, Williams, and Red Bull are going pretty aggressive with their tire strategies. Hopefully it works out.
On the other hand, Ferrari seem to have gone very conservative. So I predict qualifying will be the usual shootout between the Mercs, a second ahead of the field. Then Ferrari will be left with egg on their faces when the safety car periods allows drivers to stay out on supersofts for longer.
In another words, Ferrari will find yet another way of botching up a race...
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DanielPT wrote:watka wrote:Row Man Gross-Gene wrote:It looks like Haas, Williams, and Red Bull are going pretty aggressive with their tire strategies. Hopefully it works out.
On the other hand, Ferrari seem to have gone very conservative. So I predict qualifying will be the usual shootout between the Mercs, a second ahead of the field. Then Ferrari will be left with egg on their faces when the safety car periods allows drivers to stay out on supersofts for longer.
In another words, Ferrari will find yet another way of botching up a race...
I'm sure Williams will find a way too. Yeah, it's gonna be an easy walk for Red Bull to become second in the constructors championship.
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solarcold wrote:CoopsII wrote:solarcold wrote:remember: in Modern Russia Formula 1 watches YOU.
Then Formula 1 is in for some tedious viewing.
Is Sochi anywhere near you Solarcold? Are you going?
Unfortunately no, but I'm planning to go there in sometime in future.
It's very far from me, I live at the extreme north of Russia, in Murmansk (and I like it here!).
But I've been to Sochi 7 times in childhood. It was VERY different before Olympics and F1. It was a relatively simple provincial town and I couldn't possibly imagine something like that would eventually go on there.
I might be mistaken, but wasn't Sochi traditionally a coastal resort that was mainly frequented by the elites of the Soviet Union, hence the rather relaxing sense of simple seclusion that developed around the town? As you say, though, it seems to be anything but that these days...
DanielPT wrote:watka wrote:Row Man Gross-Gene wrote:It looks like Haas, Williams, and Red Bull are going pretty aggressive with their tire strategies. Hopefully it works out.
On the other hand, Ferrari seem to have gone very conservative. So I predict qualifying will be the usual shootout between the Mercs, a second ahead of the field. Then Ferrari will be left with egg on their faces when the safety car periods allows drivers to stay out on supersofts for longer.
In another words, Ferrari will find yet another way of botching up a race...
This wrote:I'm sure Williams will find a way too. Yeah, it's gonna be an easy walk for Red Bull to become second in the constructors championship.
Even with their issues, Ferrari are still currently beating Red Bull in the WCC...
Williams do seem to have gone for a more aggressive strategy, but tyre management has been one of their weaker points for a few years. It makes more sense for Haas and Red Bull given they have tended to show good tyre management characteristics, but Williams haven't looked strong in that department.
Speaking of Williams, though, they really do need to put in a better performance here given that they are coming under a bit of pressure from Haas and Toro Rosso.
With the FW38 being something of a conservative evolution of their previous cars, they have to hope that the prevalence of higher speed corners is in their favour (their cars do seem to have been stronger at high speed circuits - Silverstone, for example, comes to mind - but fairly poor at circuits where low to medium speed stability are more critical).
Still, I'm expecting them to struggle for competitiveness - given the limited resources of the team and the upcoming rule changes in 2017, I would not be surprised if Williams have chosen to sacrifice some competitiveness now for a better chance of staying in the top 4 teams in 2017.
Dj_bereta wrote:Despite having a lot of super soft tyres, I believe Williams will try an one stop strategy, starting with super soft (Q2) and finishing with the medium tyres.
It looks more to me like most teams are going for a one stop strategy with super softs for the first stint and softs thereafter, with the single set of medium tyres taken simply to satisfy the requirement to have a minimum of one set of whichever tyre Pirelli designates as the prime tyre.
If a team is going for an aggressive strategy, which Williams, Haas and Red Bull seem to be doing, I expect them to go the other way and to run two stints on the super soft tyres and a shorter stint on the soft.
The soft tyres tend to hang on pretty well - last year, most drivers were fairly comfortable with running for more than 30 laps, or more than half a race distance, on the soft tyre, with most drivers setting their best lap times towards the end of the stint.
That would suggest to me that Sochi is one of the few venues where the delta from fuel burning off is still higher than the performance loss of the tyres. In that scenario, using a harder compound tyre, such as the medium, isn't really that advantageous - the main benefit is more likely to come from using softer, rather than harder, tyres.
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I approve Sochi night race proposal.
Axel pls pls plspls...... Lower temps tends harder to overtake. See Milwaukee 2003
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