F1 1984+

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 06 Nov 2016, 13:47

TheFlyingCaterham wrote:1. BMW M12/13 - Semi-Works
2. BMW M12/13 - Customer
3. Renault EF4 - Customer

The BMW semi-works bid is invalid, as Osella have no drivers signed at present. I'll assume you just want the other two; let me know if you want to change!

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 06 Nov 2016, 20:42

It would be so ironic if Ligier still misses out on BMW engines now. :shock:

RedEyes504 · Post by **RedEyes504** » 07 Nov 2016, 11:17

ATS Engine bids
1. Porsche TTE PO1

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 07 Nov 2016, 23:14

Williams engine offers
1. Porsche (works)
2. BMW (works) on condition Williams will sign a German driver for phase 2
3. Renault EF4B (works)

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 07 Nov 2016, 23:37

Collieafc wrote:Williams engine offers
2. BMW (works) on condition Williams will sign a German driver for phase 2

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This sort of sneaky trickery would never normally be allowed - and I fear I'm setting a bad precedent - but the difference in last season's performance between the Williams and Ligier teams raises some serious eyebrows at BMW, especially with this contention being over their top-tier engines, and neither team being German.

On this occasion, as you've clearly read the rules carefully, I will roll, with a 50% chance of your 'delayed' bid being accepted, and a 50% chance of it being refused.

Accepted - 50% chance
Refused - 50% chance

Accepted gets it!

A bold, if rather cheeky move by the Williams team, but this time it paid-off. Nobody else get any ideas!

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 08 Nov 2016, 04:16

BioBiro wrote:
Collieafc wrote:Williams engine offers
2. BMW (works) on condition Williams will sign a German driver for phase 2
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This sort of sneaky trickery would never normally be allowed - and I fear I'm setting a bad precedent - but the difference in last season's performance between the Williams and Ligier teams raises some serious eyebrows at BMW, especially with this contention being over their top-tier engines, and neither team being German.

On this occasion, as you've clearly read the rules carefully, I will roll, with a 50% chance of your 'delayed' bid being accepted, and a 50% chance of it being refused.

Accepted - 50% chance
Refused - 50% chance

Accepted gets it!

A bold, if rather cheeky move by the Williams team, but this time it paid-off. Nobody else get any ideas!

Of course, Ligier does not like the way Williams tries to do things, and therefore ask that should Williams fail to secure their German driver in phase 2, then the deal automatically goes to Ligier, regardless of wether other teams manage to secure a German driver.

TheFlyingCaterham · Post by **TheFlyingCaterham** » 08 Nov 2016, 19:42

BioBiro wrote:
TheFlyingCaterham wrote:1. BMW M12/13 - Semi-Works
2. BMW M12/13 - Customer
3. Renault EF4 - Customer
The BMW semi-works bid is invalid, as Osella have no drivers signed at present. I'll assume you just want the other two; let me know if you want to change!

Yeah, I'll stick with the latter two.

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 08 Nov 2016, 21:35

This wrote:Of course, Ligier does not like the way Williams tries to do things, and therefore ask that should Williams fail to secure their German driver in phase 2, then the deal automatically goes to Ligier, regardless of wether other teams manage to secure a German driver.

As Ligier and Williams are the only two teams with interest in the works BMW engines at this point, this is agreed.

From this point onward, no further offers on the works BMW M12/13 engines are accepted. They are signed, sealed, delivered and spoken-for, and have been removed from the list of engines in phase one

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@Dexter249/Toleman - get your engine list in, buddy

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Dexter249 · Post by **Dexter249** » 09 Nov 2016, 15:38

Engines
Renault TTE P04 Customer, Only thing we can afford unless any italian paydrivers are up
Alfa Romeo Customer, List of paydrivers please.

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 09 Nov 2016, 19:59

Dexter249 wrote:Only thing we can afford unless any italian paydrivers are up...

...List of paydrivers please.

Sorry, no advance-knowledge allowed! You'll have to wait for phase two of driver signing.

Your budget post-sponsorship (currently £20,165,000) is available at the start of the thread, by the way - you're the Toleman team - so... it could be argued that you're not really financially restricted in your engine choices, currently.

Dexter249 wrote:Renault TTE P04 Customer

I'll assume this is the Renault EF4 customer engine deal, so I've got you down for that one.

Like drivers and sponsors, there are two phases to engine signing, so you're under no requirement to sign a deal in this phase.

Do you want to re-asses your situation and post a new list, or just stick with the Renault customer engine offer for now?

Dexter249 · Post by **Dexter249** » 11 Nov 2016, 18:13

BioBiro wrote:
Dexter249 wrote:Only thing we can afford unless any italian paydrivers are up...

...List of paydrivers please.
Sorry, no advance-knowledge allowed! You'll have to wait for phase two of driver signing.

Your budget post-sponsorship (currently £20,165,000) is available at the start of the thread, by the way - you're the Toleman team - so... it could be argued that you're not really financially restricted in your engine choices, currently.

Dexter249 wrote:Renault TTE P04 Customer
I'll assume this is the Renault EF4 customer engine deal, so I've got you down for that one.

Like drivers and sponsors, there are two phases to engine signing, so you're under no requirement to sign a deal in this phase.

Do you want to re-asses your situation and post a new list, or just stick with the Renault customer engine offer for now?

EF4 please.

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 11 Nov 2016, 21:01

^ Thanks

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Engine Signing Results - Set One (Of Two)
OK, easy ones first~!

To nobody's surprise, Ferrari sign the Ferrari 031 works engines...

Renault sign the Renault EF4 works engines.

Alfa Romeo sign the Alfa Romeo 890T works engines.

Porsche TTEPO1 – Works
Brabham - 41% chance
Lotus - 8% chance
Arrows - 4% chance
McLaren - 20% chance
ATS - 2% chance
Williams - 21% chance
Williams gets it!

Renault EF4 – Semi Works
Brabham - 93% chance
Spirit - 6% chance
Brabham gets it!

... but now the surprises begin.

Ligier are the only team with the rights to snag the BMW M12/13 works engines!

BMW M12/13 – Customer
Arrows - 12% chance
Spirit - 6% chance
Tyrrell - 22% chance
McLaren - 52% chance
Osella - 6% chance
Arrows gets it!
Arrows Grand Prix finally get some luck.

Renault EF4 – Customer
Spirit - 6% chance
Tyrrell - 20% chance
McLaren - 48% chance
Osella - 6% chance
Toleman - 18% chance
Tyrrell gets it!

Minardi signs the Alfa Romeo 890T customer engines.

Only Renault's bleeding-edge EF4B engine remains on the table, with Lotus and McLaren fighting it out:
Lotus - 29% chance
McLaren - 70% chance
Lotus gets it!
Wow.

tl;dr

Nordica Brabham Renault signed Renault EF4 – Semi Works engines.
JPS Alfa Romeo signed Alfa Romeo 890T – Works engines.
Ferrari signed Ferrari 031 – Works engines.
Renault signed Renault EF4 – Works engines.
Benetton Williams Porsche signed Porsche TTEPO1 – Works engines.
Lotus Renault signed Renault EF4B - Works engines.
Ligier BMW signed BMW M12/13 – Works engines.
Tyrrell Renault signed Renault EF4 – Customer engines.
Minardi Alfa Romeo signed Alfa Romeo 890T – Customer engines.
Arrows BMW signed BMW M12/13 – Customer engines.

Some lucky rolls in there~! Williams' antagonism of Ligier turned out to be unnecessary, although they probably don't care because they're too busy celebrating. The Ligier team have secured themselves the powerful but unreliable BMW works engines, which are an excellent foundation on which to begin rebuilding the team back into competitive form. Lotus did well, also. Arrows got something they wanted for a change, and Minardi continues to make bold contract agreements - laying the track for an impressive debut, as the steam train of bankruptcy chases right behind them, about to fly off its rails and crush them like grapes.

From this phase, only one of the Alfa Romeo 890T – Customer engine deals and both the BMW M12/13 – Semi Works engine deals are leftover, and will all be available in phase two of engine signing.

McLaren, Toleman, Spirit, ATS, Osella and RAM have yet to sign an engine supplier, and will be the only teams to take part in phase two of engine signing!

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 11 Nov 2016, 22:22

Well, that wasn't so bad (we appear to be emulating Arrows' real 1984)- at least we're doing better than Osella (now that's damning with faint praise...)!

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 12 Nov 2016, 05:47

Reliability isn't going to be great, and our restricted budget means development isn't going to impress anyone. And we have Chico Serra. But still...

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 12 Nov 2016, 11:01

Yes Minardi!

One thought: is there any chance of us getting a discounted price on the engines, since we are only going to be using half as many engines as all the other teams?

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 13 Nov 2016, 01:03

Aislabie wrote:is there any chance of us getting a discounted price on the engines, since we are only going to be using half as many engines as all the other teams?

This is a fair request, as I have attempted to tailor other elements of the virtual series to suit variable-entry teams, but have overlooked this one.

The deal price on offer is to be considered the price for a two-car team. A quarter of this amount is added or subtracted per car. The exact formula is: (x / 2) + ((x / 4) * y)

Where x = deal price on offer, and y = number of cars in team.

It's a quarter - and not a half - because you're paying not just for the unit manufacture, but also for the R&D for the product itself. I've altered your team's budget to reflect this.

Thanks for noticing this issue

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BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 13 Nov 2016, 13:23

Tyre & Fuel Supplier Signing
Ahh~, let's take a break from all this fast-paced action, and enjoy some nice gentle tyre and fuel supplier signing. We'll do them both at the same time, to make life easier. No phases to this one - everything happens here. If you fail to sign a tyre or fuel supplier, we just go round-and-round until you do!

All tyre and fuel deals are customer deals; there is no development or testing associated with them.

Try to pick at least two tyre suppliers (unless you're picking Pirelli first), and at least three fuel suppliers (unless you're picking Valvoline first), please.

To sign tyre and fuel suppliers, just list them, like this:

Code: Select all

'Let's Skiing Motorsport' wish to sign:
Goodyear
Pirelli

Agip
Shell
Valvoline

OK~!

Tyre Suppliers
Michelin
Nationality: French
Dry Grip: 85%, Wet Grip: 90%
Cost for season: £1,500,000
Supply capacity: Four teams only

Goodyear
Nationality: United States
Dry Grip: 80%, Wet Grip: 75%
Cost for season: £1,175,000
Supply capacity: Six teams only

Pirelli
Nationality: Italian
Dry Grip: 60%, Wet Grip: 35%
Cost for season: £450,000
Supply capacity: (Unlimited teams)

Fuel Suppliers
Elf
Nationality: French
Performance: 85%
Cost for season: £900,000
Supply capacity: Four teams only
Requirements: Must be a French team, have a French engine, or have at least one French race driver.

Mobil
Nationality: United States
Performance: 60%
Cost for season: £625,000
Supply capacity: Two teams only

Valvoline
Nationality: United States
Performance: 45%
Cost for season: £185,000
Supply capacity: (Unlimited teams)

Castrol
Nationality: British
Performance: 65%
Cost for season: £700,000
Supply capacity: Two teams only
Requirements: Must be a British team.

Shell
Nationality: Dutch
Performance: 50%
Cost for season: £350,000
Supply capacity: Four teams only

Agip
Nationality: Italian
Performance: 75%
Cost for season: £825,000
Supply capacity: Three teams only
Requirements: Must be an Italian team, or have at least one Italian race driver.

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 13 Nov 2016, 13:33

Minardi Preferences

Tyres:
Pirelli (we know they're a bit rubbish, but they're Italian and that's all that matters)

Fuel:
Agip
Valvoline

VIVA ITALIA!

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 13 Nov 2016, 13:40

Thanks, Aislabie

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Due to the precarious financial situations of certain teams, I suspect some may wish to use part of their available lending limit to attain superior deals now, in the hope of securing sponsorship in phase two. As such, I have edited the top post of the thread to display your starting budgets (which are your borrowing limits), to aid this.

The font colour option on this board doesn't seem to support an alpha channel, so I've put it in tiny font, in an attempt not to distract.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 13 Nov 2016, 14:49

Scuderia Ferrari SEFAC wish to sign;

Michelin
Goodyear

Agip
Elf

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 13 Nov 2016, 15:11

DemocalypseNow wrote:Scuderia Ferrari SEFAC wish to....

Hi,

Unfortunately, the Ferrari team is already managed. Would you like to be added to the queue?

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 13 Nov 2016, 15:14

BioBiro wrote:
DemocalypseNow wrote:Scuderia Ferrari SEFAC wish to....
Hi,

Unfortunately, the Ferrari team is already managed. Would you like to be added to the queue?

Erm... DemocalypseNow is Biscione, BioBiro (he's important, so he can change his username)

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 13 Nov 2016, 15:15

Arrows Fuel/Tyre Bids:

Tyres:
Goodyear

Fuel:
Agip (we have Nannini, so why not?)
Castrol
Mobil
There better be good sponsors in phase 2...

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 13 Nov 2016, 15:38

This Could Be You wrote:Erm... DemocalypseNow is Biscione, BioBiro (he's important, so he can change his username)

Huh, I see. I thought it was strange how they had such similar signatures :-\.

Alright, thanks to both of you for your bids. Although, that said...

DemocalypseNow wrote:Scuderia Ferrari SEFAC wish to sign;
Elf

You don't have any French drivers. I'll knock Elf off your list, for you.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 13 Nov 2016, 16:21

BioBiro wrote:
DemocalypseNow wrote:Scuderia Ferrari SEFAC wish to sign;
Elf
You don't have any French drivers. I'll knock Elf off your list, for you.

Just wait until we sign Prost. Then things will be different :glasses:

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 13 Nov 2016, 16:26

DemocalypseNow wrote:Just wait until we sign Prost. Then things will be different

No delayed bids from now on; they're banned~!

That goes for all of you!

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 13 Nov 2016, 22:19

McLaren's pics

Tyre Suppliers
Goodyear
Michelin

Fuel Suppliers
Mobil
Shell
Castrol

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 14 Nov 2016, 00:42

Renault

Tyres
Michelin
Goodyear

Fuel
ELF
Mobil
Shell

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 14 Nov 2016, 04:19

Ligier wants to sign:
Tyres:
-Michelin
-Goodyear
fuel:
-Elf
-Shell
-Mobil

As we're now a works BMW team, our chances of getting good deals might improve a lot. Also, we're still french.

FantometteBR wrote:McLaren's pics
...

where are the photos?

V8fan12 · Post by **V8fan12** » 14 Nov 2016, 07:30

Tyrrell

Tyres
Goodyear
Michelin
Pirelli

Fuel
Elf
Castrol
Mobil

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 14 Nov 2016, 12:56

Williams bids

Tyres
1. Michelin
2. Goodyear
3. Pirelli

Fuel
We have chanced our luck with the engines, we wont do the same maneuver with fuel suppliers!
1. Castrol
2. Mobil
3. Shell

novitopoli · Post by **novitopoli** » 14 Nov 2016, 13:02

Lotus bids:

Tyres:
Michelin
Goodyear
Pirelli

Fuels:
Elf
Castrol
Shell

Post by **tommykl** » 14 Nov 2016, 16:18

Spirit's tyre and fuel bids
Tyres
Pirelli

Fuel
Elf
Castrol
Shell
Valvoline

RedEyes504 · Post by **RedEyes504** » 15 Nov 2016, 08:55

ATS Bids

Tyres
1. Michelin
2. Goodyear
3. Pirelli

Fuel
1. Mobil
2. Shell
3. Vavoline

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 15 Nov 2016, 19:06

Pirelli

Valvoline

Dexter249 · Post by **Dexter249** » 15 Nov 2016, 21:14

Toleman Bids
Tires
Goodyear
Michelin
Pirelli
Fuel
Castrol
Shell
Valvoline

Post by **Ataxia** » 17 Nov 2016, 19:37

Sorry for my lateness, I've been snowed under. Anyway...

Brabham bids

TYRES:
Michelin
Goodyear

FUEL:
Elf
Agip
Castrol

TheFlyingCaterham · Post by **TheFlyingCaterham** » 17 Nov 2016, 19:42

Osella Bids:

Tyres: Pirelli
Fuel: Agip
Mobil
Shell

Here's hoping we actually sign something this time.

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 17 Nov 2016, 21:05

TheFlyingCaterham wrote:Osella Bids:
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Castrol

Well, you won't be signing them, because:

BioBiro wrote:Castrol
...
Requirements: Must be a British team.

I'll take them off your list for you, so it's just Agip, Shell and Mobil

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Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 17 Nov 2016, 21:11

Alfa Romeo:

Tyres:

1. Goodyear
2. Pirelli

Fuel:

1. Agip
2. Shell