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BioBiro wrote:While waiting, I did a dummy-run of the sponsor RNGs (minus Osella), and the result was... :lol: :lol: :lol:!

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BioBiro wrote:

Just Osella/TheFlyingCaterham to go. I'm told that he's elsewhere for the duration of the weekend.

While waiting, I did a dummy-run of the sponsor RNGs (minus Osella), and the result was... :lol: :lol: :lol:!

I swear I already posted mine but whatever I'll do it now.

Carvico
Resta
DeLonghi
Kelémata
Marilena
Agip (the better one)
Copec

This will end terrible for us won't it.
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Sponsor Signing Results - Set Two (Of Two)
Parmalat:
Lotus - 19% chance
Arrows - 11% chance
Tyrrell - 20% chance
McLaren - 48% chance
McLaren gets it!

But they're McLaren's second choice, so let's jump to their first choice, Marlboro:
Lotus - 22% chance
Tyrrell - 23% chance
McLaren - 54% chance
McLaren gets it!

So, we re-roll Parmalat, sans McLaren:
Lotus - 38% chance
Arrows - 21% chance
Tyrrell - 40% chance
Tyrrell gets it!

Saudia:
Lotus - 64% chance
Arrows - 36% chance
Arrows gets it!

Candy therefore will sign with Lotus.

Toleman acquire sponsorship from their British fuel supplier, Castrol.

Ferodo:
Lotus - 16% chance
Spirit - 5% chance
Tyrrell - 17% chance
RAM - 5% chance
Williams - 41% chance
Toleman - 15% chance
Toleman gets it!

sTp:
Spirit - 6% chance
Tyrrell - 23% chance
Ligier - 6% chance
Williams - 56% chance
ATS - 6% chance
Williams gets it!

Resta:
Minardi - 50% chance
Osella - 50% chance
Minardi gets it!

Carvico:
Minardi - 50% chance
Osella - 50% chance
Minardi gets it!

Alright, alright. Quit gloating, Minardi.

Osella are now guaranteed to sign Agip's better sponsorship offer.

FUJI TV:
Spirit - 33% chance
RAM - 33% chance
Minardi - 33% chance
Spirit gets it!

DeLonghi:
Arrows - 12% chance
Spirit - 6% chance
Minardi - 6% chance
Ligier - 6% chance
Williams - 54% chance
ATS - 6% chance
Osella - 6% chance
ATS gets it!

Kelémata:
Arrows - 13% chance
Minardi - 7% chance
Ligier - 7% chance
Williams - 63% chance
Osella - 7% chance
Williams gets it!

At this point, the RAM team sign Pernod.

Marilena:
Lotus - 33% chance
Tyrrell - 35% chance
Minardi - 10% chance
Ligier - 10% chance
Osella - 10% chance
Osella gets it!

Copec:
Spirit - 25% chance
RAM - 25% chance
Ligier - 25% chance
Osella - 25% chance
Osella gets it!

Europcar:
Arrows - 47% chance
RAM - 26% chance
Ligier - 26% chance
Ligier gets it!

Arrows sign SYDEXPO, the only team left with space for them on their car.

So to does Spirit sign Olympus.

Antar:
Spirit - 50% chance
RAM - 50% chance
RAM gets it!

Maredo:
Tyrrell - 77% chance
RAM - 22% chance
Tyrrell gets it!



tl;dr

Parmalat Tyrrell Renault signed Parmalat and Maredo, for a total sponsorship income of £14,500,000.
Saudia Arrows BMW signed Saudia and SYDEXPO, for a total sponsorship income of £14,000,000.
Minardi Alfa Romeo signed Resta and Carvico, for a total sponsorship income of £13,000,000.
Spirit signed FUJI TV and Olympus, for a total sponsorship income of £10,500,000.
Marlboro McLaren signed Marlboro for a total sponsorship income of £10,000,000.
Benetton Williams Porsche signed sTp and Kelémata, for a total sponsorship income of £9,000,000.
Candy Lotus Renault signed Candy, for a total sponsorship income of £9,000,000.
Skoal Bandit Toleman signed Castrol and Ferodo, for a total sponsorship income of £6,500,000.
Osella signed Agip, Marilena and Copec, for a total sponsorship income of £6,500,000.
ATS signed DeLonghi, for a total sponsorship income of £4,000,000.
Ligier BMW signed Europcar, for a total sponsorship income of £3,000,000.
RAM signed Pernod and Antar, for a total sponsorship income of £3,000,000.


For the first time, we will enjoy live pictures from a driver's perspective, thanks to the Spirit team agreeing to carry FUJI TV's prototype onboard camera for the season. The following degradations have been applied to the team's '101' chassis design:

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Drag increase of 4% (Drag = 82% > Drag = 86%)
Weight increase of 5kg (Weight = 540kg > Weight = 545kg)


And finally, a quick review of every team's sponsorship income combined from both phases, for 1984:

Benetton Williams Porsche signed a total sponsorship income of £23,000,000.
Skoal Bandit Toleman signed a total sponsorship income of £22,500,000.
Nordica Brabham Renault signed a total sponsorship income of £22,000,000.
John Player Special Alfa Romeo signed a total sponsorship income of £20,500,000.
Candy Lotus Renault signed a total sponsorship income of £20,000,000. They will contest 1984 with one unfilled supplementary slot.
Parmalat Tyrrell Renault signed a total sponsorship income of £19,500,000. They will contest 1984 with one unfilled supplementary slot.
Ferrari signed a total sponsorship income of £19,000,000.
Renault signed a total sponsorship income of £18,000,000.
Marlboro McLaren signed a total sponsorship income of £17,000,000.
Spirit signed a total sponsorship income of £15,500,000. They will contest 1984 with one unfilled supplementary slot.
ATS signed a total sponsorship income of £15,000,000.
Minardi Alfa Romeo signed a total sponsorship income of £15,000,000. They will contest 1984 with one unfilled supplementary slot.
Saudia Arrows BMW signed a total sponsorship income of £14,000,000. They will contest 1984 with two unfilled supplementary slots.
Ligier BMW signed a total sponsorship income of £10,000,000.
Osella signeda total sponsorship income of £6,500,000. They will contest 1984 with one unfilled supplementary slot.
RAM signed a total sponsorship income of £3,000,000. They will contest 1984 with two unfilled supplementary slots.


For anyone curious (like me), here are the total combined sponsorship incomes with manufacturer income included:

Ferrari signed a total sponsorship income, including manufacturer support, of £38,750,000.
Renault signed a total sponsorship income, including manufacturer support, of £29,000,000.
Benetton Williams Porsche signed a total sponsorship income of £23,000,000.
Skoal Bandit Toleman signed a total sponsorship income of £22,500,000.
Nordica Brabham Renault signed a total sponsorship income of £22,000,000.
John Player Special Alfa Romeo signed a total sponsorship income of £20,500,000.
Candy Lotus Renault signed a total sponsorship income of £20,000,000.
Parmalat Tyrrell Renault signed a total sponsorship income of £19,500,000.
ATS signed a total sponsorship income, including manufacturer support, of £17,035,000.
Marlboro McLaren signed a total sponsorship income of £17,000,000.
Spirit signed a total sponsorship income of £15,500,000.
Minardi Alfa Romeo signed a total sponsorship income of £15,000,000.
Saudia Arrows BMW signed a total sponsorship income of £14,000,000.
Ligier BMW signed a total sponsorship income of £10,000,000.
Osella signed a total sponsorship income of £6,500,000.
RAM signed a total sponsorship income of £3,000,000.
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So my car is so much of a boat it should be described as a hull rather than a chassis, but I have a ton of money and a dope lineup of Prost/de Angelis?

This could be a very interesting season indeed!
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This is going somewhat better now. :dance:

Also, I can mockup liveries for the cars if you want- for example, here is the Arrows:

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DemocalypseNow wrote:This could be a very interesting season indeed!
It will indeed, as it appears your team may have a 'disruptive special event' occur soon... I wonder if you can guess what it will be? :roll:


This Could Be You wrote:Also, I can mockup liveries for the cars if you want- for example, here is the Arrows:
That looks amazing, but could you really do it for all sixteen teams? I don't know anything about art, but it sounds like a lot of work! ;)
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BioBiro wrote:
DemocalypseNow wrote:This could be a very interesting season indeed!

It will indeed, as it appears your team may have a 'disruptive special event' occur soon... I wonder if you can guess what it will be? :roll:

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BioBiro wrote:
This Could Be You wrote:Also, I can mockup liveries for the cars if you want- for example, here is the Arrows:
That looks amazing, but could you really do it for all sixteen teams? I don't know anything about art, but it sounds like a lot of work! ;)

I've actually already done the Ligier, Brabham and most of the Renault already, so it isn't that hard to do all sixteen- the only problem is revising the templates to fit the designs, as I only have templates for McLaren, Brabham, Arrows and Ligier (again not that bad, as most designs either look like the Arrows or McLaren)
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So we have a badass works contract but a horrible chassis, huge unreliability, bad tyres, a hopeless pay-driver, an underrated though average lead driver, a bunch or mediocre sponsors, and our only customer so far is Arrows, who have written good luck all over them. :facepalm:
I predict loads of DNF's from average position, lots of crashes, loads of Guy Ligier outbursts and a sacking of the one in charge at the BMW headquarters...
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DemocalypseNow wrote:"Go directly to Jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200?" :chilton:
Unfortunately, this 'chance-card' will be coming from within your team, not externally :).


This wrote:So we have a badass works contract but a horrible chassis, huge unreliability, bad tyres, a hopeless pay-driver, an underrated though average lead driver, a bunch or mediocre sponsors, and our only customer so far is Arrows, who have written good luck all over them. :facepalm:
That sure~ is a bad-ass works engine contract you have :).


This Could Be You wrote:I've actually already done the Ligier, Brabham and most of the Renault already, so it isn't that hard to do all sixteen- the only problem is revising the templates to fit the designs, as I only have templates for McLaren, Brabham, Arrows and Ligier (again not that bad, as most designs either look like the Arrows or McLaren)
You should totally do and post them, then (if only to use to cheer-up the Ligier team)! Thank you! I can also use them in the team overview at the start of the thread, the end-of-year season review, and in the race reports for each Grand Prix :).
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Don't worry, i'm not sad. As you can see trough my post, i am absolutely optimistic about beating Arrows :D
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Ok then, here are the liveries I have done so far (besides my own):

Ligier:
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(You gave me tricky colours to work with)

Brabham:
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Renault:
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Lotus:
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(Looks like a Toleman, ironically)

Williams:
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Tyrrell:
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Minardi:
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(the sponsor logos were a bit low-res on this one)

Ferrari:
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(DemocalypseNow, you did realise Topolino is the Italian Mickey Mouse when choosing it?)

Alfa Romeo:
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(This didn't turn out anywhere near as badly as I thought it would)

Osella:
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Toleman:
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(why so many colours...)

Mclaren:
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RAM:
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Spirit:
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(Not really much of a livery, to be honest...)

ATS:
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(If the Parfums Victor logo looks a bit homemade, well that because it was- i couldn't find it anywhere, so just fashioned one based off pictures of the Osella)
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BioBiro wrote:
DemocalypseNow wrote:"Go directly to Jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200?" :chilton:

Unfortunately, this 'chance-card' will be coming from within your team, not externally :).

Oh lawd....has Alain slept with one of the team higher-ups wives? :facepalm:
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^ @TCBY - those are fantastic! I know you can't do six of the teams until they sign engine suppliers, so I'll get on with that now.


Engine Signing - Set Two (Of Two)
Hello and welcome to the final phase of engine signing, and the final phase of signing anything for 1984, now! After this, we'll soon be going racing~!

Teams without an engine deal for 1984 who need to submit their wishlist are:
  • McLaren
  • Toleman
  • Spirit (will receive a 25% discount on the price offered, due to being a single-car entry)
  • ATS
  • Osella
  • RAM


Engine prices are non-negotiable. To submit your interest in an engine deal, simply state the engine manufacturer, unit/model name, and deal you would prefer, like this:

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My team would like to sign one of the below engine suppliers, in order of preference:
Hart 415T - Works
Honda RA163E - Semi-Works
Ford Cosworth DFV - Customer


What do these deal types mean?


Works engine deals…
  • Do allow you to dictate the direction of the engine's development.
  • Engine development & testing is available to you.
  • You will receive upgrades throughout the season.

Semi-works engine deals…
  • Do not allow you to dictate the direction of the engine's development.
  • Engine development & testing is available to you.
  • You will receive upgrades throughout the season, at approximately half the rate the works team receives them.

Customer engine deals…
  • Do not allow you to dictate the direction of the engine's development.
  • Engine development & testing is not available to you.
  • You will not receive upgrades throughout the season.


Here's the engines~:


Honda RA163E
Nationality: Japanese
1.5L V6 Turbocharged
600HP, 149kg, 55% Reliability
Deals offered:
Semi-Works – £5,400,000

Ford Cosworth DFY
Nationality: British
3L V8 Naturally Aspirated
520HP, 139kg, 95% Reliability
Deals offered:
Works – £4,700,000

Ford Cosworth DFV
Nationality: British
3L V8 Naturally Aspirated
450HP, 168kg, 95% Reliability
Deals offered:
Customer – £2,100,000
Customer – £2,100,000
Customer – £2,100,000

Alfa Romeo 1260
Nationality: Italian
3L V12 Naturally Aspirated
540HP, 175kg, 90% Reliability
Deals offered:
Customer – £1,950,000 – Requirement: must have at least one Italian driver.
Customer – £1,950,000 – Requirement: must have at least one Italian driver.

Hart 'Hart Attack' 415T
Nationality: British
1.5L Inline 4 Turbocharged
600HP, 138kg, 50% Reliability
Deals offered:
Works – £3,765,000 - Requirement: must be a British team.
Customer – £2,950,000
Customer – £2,950,000


Engines left-over from phase one, still available on the market:

BMW M12/13
Nationality: German
1.5L Inline 4 Turbocharged
865HP, 170kg, 40% Reliability
Deals offered:
Semi-Works – £5,450,000 – Requirement: must have at least one German driver.
Semi-Works – £5,450,000 – Requirement: must have at least one German driver.

Alfa Romeo 890T
Nationality: Italian
1.5L V8 Turbocharged
670HP, 146kg, 55% Reliability
Deals offered:
Customer – £3,700,000 - Requirement: must have at least one Italian driver.
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Osella Engine Bids:
Alfa Romeo 890T (Customer)
Alfa Romeo 1260 (Customer)
Hart 415T (Customer)
Ford Cosworth DFV (Customer)
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McLaren engien bids

Honda RA163E - Semiworks
Ford Cosworth DFY - Works
Ford Cosworth DFV - Customer
Hart 'Hart Attack' 415T - Works
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Spirit's engine bids:
Ford Cosworth DFY (Works)
Hart 'Hart Attack' 415T (Works)
Ford Cosworth DFV (Customer)
Hart 'Hart Attack' 415T (Customer)
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Ford Cosworth DFV
Customer

Hart 415T
Customer

Hart 415T
Works

I cant afford anything else so that is it for RAM, fingers crossed.
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Toleman Bids
Honda RA163T Semi-works
Ford Cosworth DFY Works
Ford Cosworth DFV Customer
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ATS Bids
1. Honda RA163E (SW)
2. Ford Cosworth DFY (W)
3. BMW M12/13 (SW) - As none of the remaining teams have a German driver, hopefully being the only German team will convince BMW to support us
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^ Thanks :-).


Engine Signing Results - Set Two (Of Two)
Honda RA163E – Semi-Works
McLaren - 66% chance
Toleman - 25% chance
ATS - 8% chance
McLaren gets it!

Minardi might not have it so easy, now that Osella are getting Alfa Romeo 890T – Customer engines!

But, now~, they battle it out~, for the finest naturally-aspirated engine out there, the Ford Cosworth DFY – Works:
Spirit - 20% chance
Toleman - 60% chance
ATS - 20% chance
Spirit gets it!

That means...

... both Toleman and RAM will be getting their third and first choices, respectively - the Ford Cosworth DFV – Customer engines....

... and the ATS team will be using BMW M12/13 – Semi-Works engines!



tl;dr

Marlboro McLaren Honda signed Honda RA163E – Semi-Works engines.
Skoal Bandit Toleman Ford signed Ford Cosworth DFV – Customer engines.
Spirit Ford signed Ford Cosworth DFY – Works engines.
ATS BMW signed BMW M12/13 – Semi-Works engines.
Osella Alfa Romeo signed Alfa Romeo 890T – Customer engines.
RAM Ford signed Ford Cosworth DFV – Customer engines.

Some may feel McLaren overpaid for an engine they don't have control over, but I think they might be satisfied with what Honda have to offer. Toleman, despite having the fourth-highest sponsorship income out of everyone - somewhat saddled themselves with customer DFVs they won't be able to develop. Spirit got lucky and have fantastic engines to offset the comically-oversized Beta camera strapped to their sole car. ATS and Osella have spent big in return for bucketfuls of horsepower, and Ligier can look forward to the German team help develop their engine for them!

One BMW M12/13 semi-works deal, both the Alfa Romeo 1260 customer deals, the Hart 415T works deal, and both the Hart 415T customer deals go unused for 1984 :sadface:.
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The rng's been very hard on... ehm.... Hart.
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Setting Direction of Engines' Development
Before we go racing, we just need to do a tiny bit of housekeeping.

Now that everyone has got an engine supplier sorted out, works engine teams need to pick the direction of their engine's development.

We need to do this, because semi-works teams that want to develop their engines can only do so in the direction the works team has dictated.

Works teams (or in the absence of a works team, the manufacturer) are free to change their direction any time they like - just let me know with a post in this thread.

Honda did not offer a works contract, opting to retain control over their engine no matter what. They have chosen to increase the horsepower of their engine, and therefore any development done on the engine by McLaren will be in that direction.

The direction of all works engines in use for 1984 are listed below the calendar at the start of the thread.


Possible directions of engine development:
  • Increase horsepower
  • Reduce weight
  • Increase reliability


To set the direction of your works engine's development, simply do so like this:

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MyTeam would like to set the direction of MyEngine's development to: reduce weight.


The following teams need to set the direction of development of their works engines:
  • Ferrari (Ferrari 031)
  • Alfa Romeo (Alfa Romeo 890T)
  • Renault (Renault EF4)
  • Lotus (Renault EF4B)
  • Williams (Porsche TTEPO1)
  • Ligier (BMW M12/13)
  • Spirit (Ford Cosworth DFY)]
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Lotus would like to set the direction of Renault's EF4B development to: increase reliability.
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Ligier would like to set the direction of BMW development to: weight reduction
One might think reliability would be the obvious choice, as this is our achilles heel, but we got average drivers, a rejectful car and Pirelli tyres. We need something to play with the big boys, even if this means many retirements. We're gambling on a few fluke results. Our horsepower should normally already be pretty decent.
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Spirit, completely surprised by Cosworth's decision, opts to attempt to increase horsepower.

We hope that this will be the start of a fruitful partnership.
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Ferrari would like to set the direction of their engine development to: reduce weight.
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As you can see above, I have now done liveries for all sixteen teams. I hope you are happy with them (some of the sponsors were really tricky to mesh into a coherent scheme)
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This Could Be You wrote:As you can see above, I have now done liveries for all sixteen teams. I hope you are happy with them (some of the sponsors were really tricky to mesh into a coherent scheme)
They look awesome~ 8-). Thank you.

I love how some of the original colours of the team come through, but the sponsorship liveries radically change the appearance of some of the cars.

The Williams looks great with the diagonal Benetton styling. I was worried the Alfa would look identical to the RL '84 Lotus, but the little elements of red dispel any such notion. The Tyrrell looks like a sister car to the Brabham. The Lotus kinda looks like a mash-up of the Lotus 80 and 81 together. The Toleman is ugly as bathplug. The grey and orange scheme on the ATS looks really futuristic and nicely worked. The Spirit has the onboard camera on it :D and it even has the company name in katakana :lol:!

I've put them into the team info post at the start of the thread.

If people haven't seen their car yet, go here and check it out!
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Renault would like to set the direction of their engine development to: reduce weight.
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BioBiro wrote:
This Could Be You wrote:As you can see above, I have now done liveries for all sixteen teams. I hope you are happy with them (some of the sponsors were really tricky to mesh into a coherent scheme)
The Spirit has the onboard camera on it :D and it even has the company name in Kanji.


That is katakana, not kanji.

Anyways, these liveries look pretty nice TCBY, good job on them. My favourites are probably the Alfa Romeo (the little bits of red on the JPS livery makes it look a lot better) and the Ligier (the light and dark blue and orange actually work pretty well on the car).
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Alfa Romeo would like to set the direction of their engine development to: horsepower.
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This Could Be You wrote:Ferrari:
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(DemocalypseNow, you did realise Topolino is the Italian Mickey Mouse when choosing it?)

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Topolino guida una Ferrari. :glasses:
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Could i see the Toleman livery?
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Dexter249 wrote:Could i see the Toleman livery?

It's on the first post, in the team lineup. I agree with Biobiro that it doesn't look that great, as there are four main colours on a not particularly pretty carshape.
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DemocalypseNow wrote:
This Could Be You wrote:(DemocalypseNow, you did realise Topolino is the Italian Mickey Mouse when choosing it?)

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Topolino guida una Ferrari. :glasses:


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Topolino was Fulvio Ballabio's personal sponsor when the Italian driver was going to drive for Spirit. In testing, Ballabio's car sported a red "Sport Goofy" livery, while the white "Topolino" car was tested by no less than Emerson Fittipaldi!
Of course, Ballabio never got a Superlicence (while Fittipaldi deemed the car too slow and put any comeback plans on hold), hence why we never got to see this epic livery in a race weekend. In that Mickey Mouse issue from 1984, the actual Formula 1 driver was Donald Duck, who was shortly schooled by a certain "Fulvio Palladio" and had to race against (among others such as "Niki Bagnacauda", "Alain Crost", "Riccardo Pretese") bad guy "Emerson Fritticaldi" :deletraz:
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Williams would like to set the direction of Porsches development to: reduce weight
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That's everyone, then~!

Are we excited~? I know I am!

We're about to head to Brazil! :o
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BioBiro wrote:We're about to head to Brazil! :o

Grannnnn Premmmmmmmio do Brasillllllllll!

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Round 1 - Brazilian Grand Prix, Jacarepaguá, 25th March 1984

Qualifying Results:
Fresh from his second championship victory, despite a switch in team, Piquet demoralised everyone except his team mate by displaying just how good the combination of McLaren's chassis and Honda's engine was, and then demoralised team mate Arnoux by taking pole with a gap of 1.4 seconds. The inexperienced Brundle made excellent use of his 750 horsepower, experimental Renault engine. Desiré Wilson was one of the surprises of the session, putting her Alfa sixth on the grid, as was new-boy Senna in the powerful, but poorly-handling Williams. Watson squeezed every ounce of power from his BMW turbo to start an excellent sixteenth; his team mate not far behind. The Tolemans were a disappointment, with former champion Alan Jones starting no higher than twenty-first; both the team's drivers complained of a lack of power from their naturally-aspirated DFVs. At the back of the grid, it was an especially disappointing start to 1984 for the British RAM squad.

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1. Nelson Piquet - McLaren-Honda (Michelin) 01:27.479
2. René Arnoux - McLaren-Honda (Michelin) +01.466
3. Martin Brundle - Lotus-Renault (Goodyear) +01.785
4. Alain Prost - Ferrari (Michelin) +01.884
5. Riccardo Patrese - Brabham-Renault (Michelin) +02.435
6. Desiré Wilson - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +02.969
7. Ayrton Senna - Williams-Porsche (Goodyear) +03.374
8. Niki Lauda - Renault (Michelin) +03.381
9. Michele Alboreto - Renault (Michelin) +03.428
10. Patrick Tambay - Brabham-Renault (Michelin) +03.617
11. Pierluigi Martini - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +03.726
12. Eddie Cheever - Tyrrell-Renault (Goodyear) +03.970
13. Elio de Angelis - Ferrari (Michelin) +04.296
14. Alessandro Nannini - Arrows-BMW (Pirelli) +04.757
15. Nigel Mansell - Lotus-Renault (Goodyear) +04.780
16. John Watson - ATS-BMW (Goodyear) +04.894
17. Derek Warwick - Tyrrell-Renault (Goodyear) +04.941
18. Steffan Bellof - Williams-Porsche (Goodyear) +05.100
19. Manfred Winkelhock - Ligier-BMW (Pirelli) +06.790
20. Stefan Johansson - ATS-BMW (Goodyear) +06.951
21. Alan Jones - Toleman-Ford (Goodyear) +06.986
22. Piercarlo Ghinzani - Osella-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +07.120
23. Keke Rosberg - Arrows-BMW (Pirelli) +07.310
24. Mauro Baldi - Osella-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +07.367
25. Andrea de Cesaris - Minardi-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +07.400
26. Thierry Boutsen - Toleman-Ford (Goodyear) +07.578
DNQ. Philippe Streiff - Spirit-Ford (Pirelli) +08.237
DNQ. Chico Serra - Ligier-BMW (Pirelli) +09.557
DNQ. Guido Daccò - RAM-Ford (Pirelli) +10.840
DNQ. Roberto Guerrero - RAM-Ford (Pirelli) +11.384

Race Results:
The first lap was a tremendous embarrassment to the Brabham team, as Tambay's engine blew before the first corner, with Brundle and Patrese quickly retiring afterwards. Senna's clutch was slipping on lap four, and several laps later Piquet's eight-second lead meant nothing when his Honda engine went-up in a cloud of smoke. The Toleman and Arrows cars retired back-to-back - Rosberg having been in contention for eighth-place with Johansson. In the end, Arnoux's win seemed more like 'second place with benefits', as Piquet's pace in qualifying had worried the Frenchman greatly. There was no concern on American Eddie Cheever's face, though, who brought his Tyrrell home a superb second-place.

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1. René Arnoux - McLaren-Honda (Michelin) 1hr 58:42.8
2. Eddie Cheever - Tyrrell-Renault (Goodyear) +0:30.385
3. Michele Alboreto - Renault (Michelin) +0:55.604
4. Alain Prost - Ferrari (Michelin) +01:15.604
5. Steffan Bellof - Williams-Porsche (Goodyear) +01:49.121
6. Desiré Wilson - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +01:50.723
7. Niki Lauda - Renault (Michelin) +02:48.995
8. Stefan Johansson - ATS-BMW (Goodyear) +02:58.347
9. Manfred Winkelhock - Ligier-BMW (Pirelli) +04:50.464
10. Andrea de Cesaris - Minardi-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +05:40.445
Ret. Piercarlo Ghinzani - Osella-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) - Engine
Ret. John Watson - ATS-BMW (Goodyear) - Turbo
Ret. Keke Rosberg - Arrows-BMW (Pirelli) - Overheating
Ret. Alessandro Nannini - Arrows-BMW (Pirelli) - Electrical
Ret. Alan Jones - Toleman-Ford (Goodyear) - Throttle
Ret. Thierry Boutsen - Toleman-Ford (Goodyear) - Oil pressure
Ret. Nigel Mansell - Lotus-Renault (Goodyear) - Steering
Ret. Derek Warwick - Tyrrell-Renault (Goodyear) - Turbo
Ret. Mauro Baldi - Osella-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) - Engine
Ret. Pierluigi Martini - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) - Turbo
Ret. Elio de Angelis - Ferrari (Michelin) - Oil pressure
Ret. Nelson Piquet - McLaren-Honda (Michelin) - Engine
Ret. Ayrton Senna - Williams-Porsche (Goodyear) - Clutch
Ret. Riccardo Patrese - Brabham-Renault (Michelin) - Turbo
Ret. Martin Brundle - Lotus-Renault (Goodyear) - Turbo
Ret. Patrick Tambay - Brabham-Renault (Michelin) - Engine

Championship Standings:
Driver's Championship
1. René Arnoux (9 points)
2. Eddie Cheever (6 points)
3. Michele Alboreto (4 points)
4. Alain Prost (3 points)
5. Steffan Bellof (2 points)
6. Desiré Wilson (1 point)

Constructor's Championship
1. McLaren (9 points)
2. Tyrrell (6 points)
3. Renault (4 points)
4. Ferrari (3 points)
5. Williams (2 points)
6. Alfa Romeo (1 point)
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