F1 1985+

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 27 Jun 2017, 18:38

Alfa Romeo would like to set the direcetion of its work engine to increase Horsepower

CarloSpace · Post by **CarloSpace** » 27 Jun 2017, 19:54

Zakspeed are looking to improve reliability.

Ice1Racing · Post by **Ice1Racing** » 27 Jun 2017, 19:59

Brabham will increase horsepower

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 27 Jun 2017, 21:09

Here's the first three of the final batch of 1985 liveries:

Mclaren:

(No surprises here...)

Lola:

(... but I bet you weren't expecting this!)

Arrows:

(this turned out rather well)

More liveries coming soon (some, such as the Brabham, are proving to be a bit of a challenge)

UPDATE: here are the four remaining liveries:

Brabham:

Ligier:

(This strangely looks very similar to the RL 1984 design)

Lotus:

(What did you expect, really?)

Williams:

(Samson, who IRL sponsored Lola in 1985, is actually a suitcase company (now called Samsonite); the petrol company was never an F1 sponsor)

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 28 Jun 2017, 00:20

Minardi would like to set their development towards increasing horsepower.

However, we suspect this is rather silly, and will start by improving reliability instead.

RedEyes504 · Post by **RedEyes504** » 28 Jun 2017, 11:19

BMW will attempt to improve the reliability of our engine

CarloSpace · Post by **CarloSpace** » 28 Jun 2017, 14:35

Nice Osella... err... Leyton House... err.. Lola?

That Arrows though is a thing of beauty!

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 30 Jun 2017, 16:05

This Could Be You wrote:(purty drawings)

Oh mah~ goodness

Those are amazing~!

The Williams, in particular, is gorgeous 8-)

.

Thank you so much!

This Could Be You, who writes bi rote, wrote:(Samson, who IRL sponsored Lola in 1985, is actually a suitcase company (now called Samsonite); the petrol company was never an F1 sponsor)

Out of curiosity, how do you know this?

Not that these things are secrets, but I found it very difficult to discover the nationality and industry of some of the sponsors in 1985 - it's almost as if some of the companies have disappeared without trace.

Micromax being a DeLonghi subsidiary, I remember being quite difficult to find out. In addition, I think I could never find out who SITEV really where - there's a Mexican administration company with that name, but I don't believe the logo matches. Of course, companies change logos throughout the years, making lineage even harder to trace...

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 30 Jun 2017, 17:14

Some of the sponsors were actually incredibly difficult to find, sometimes impossible: the Augros, Parfums Victor, Courtaulds and Micromax are fabricated using fonts I had to hand based on images from the 1985 season. Others (Candy, Melinex, Denim) were copied from decal sheets of models of the cars.

The Samson logo was only found after I worked on the Lola and found it on the rear wing. By chance, I noticed the logo looked like the Samsonite one and so I just took the 'ite' bit off the logo to make it. It also so happens to be owned by Beatrice Foods- you can really see how they went under by the end of the '80's considering the number of acquisitions they made...

CarloSpace · Post by **CarloSpace** » 01 Jul 2017, 07:06

Reading this makes me think we need some kind of a reject sponsors thread!

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 01 Jul 2017, 21:30

I can't wait, I can't wait! Let's go, let's go~~~!

Round 1 - Brazilian Grand Prix, Jacarepaguá, 7th April 1985

Qualifying Results:
For 1985, our electronic, computer-based TAG Heuer timing system can display the speed of each car as they pass through a circuit's 'speed trap' - a measuring point placed in such a location as to 'capture' the car when it is travelling through the quickest straight-line part of the circuit. This 'trap speed' is presented, in green font, on the extreme right of each car's readout, for qualifying sessions only.

Only insiders deep enough in the paddock to have seen the car's pre-season rankings could have predicted such a dominant front-and-a-half row lockout by the Scuderia. Somewhat surprisingly, it was Pironi who was quickest, and he simultaenously dispelled any notion among the motoring press that he was not ready for a full-time Formula One return. John Watson - now old enough to call himself a 'veteran' - demonstrated he was worth every penny of the Brabham team's enourmous budget by out-qualifying team-mate Mansell, and Williams looked to be in much more competitive shape than last season, with Bellof qualifying fifth on the grid.

Surprises included Nannini's Alfa-powered Arrows starting eighth, and the Minardis, who were easily in the top fifteen. Irishman Derek Daly (somehow) outqualified both the Tyrrells in the only RAM car. The official BMW team were slightly embarassed to be shown-up by their semi-works customer team Williams, and likewise, Teo Fabi in the Osella-Alfa junior team would start ahead of both works Alfa Romeo cars.

1. Didier Pironi - Ferrari (Goodyear) 01:25.769 (Trap: 268 km/h)
2. Alain Prost - Ferrari (Goodyear) +0.888 (Trap: 268 km/h)
3. Michele Albereto - Ferrari (Goodyear) +01.565 (Trap: 269 km/h)
4. John Watson - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) +01.871 (Trap: 260 km/h)
5. Steffan Bellof - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) +02.193 (Trap: 272 km/h)
6. Nigel Mansell - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) +02.738 (Trap: 263 km/h)
7. Elio de Angelis - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) +03.140 (Trap: 262 km/h)
8. Alessandro Nannini - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +03.449 (Trap: 264 km/h)
9. Nelson Piquet - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) +03.465 (Trap: 259 km/h)
10. Ricardo Patrese - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) +03.939 (Trap: 297 km/h)
11. René Arnoux - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) +04.556 (Trap: 261 km/h)
12. Ayrton Senna - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) +04.645 (Trap: 270 km/h)
13. Andrea de Cesaris - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) +05.440 (Trap: 294 km/h)
14. Teo Fabi - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +05.584 (Trap: 261 km/h)
15. Derek Daly - RAM-Hart (Pirelli) +05.817 (Trap: 253 km/h)
16. Derek Warwick - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) +05.844 (Trap: 263 km/h)
17. Jean-Pierre Jarier - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) +05.908 (Trap: 263 km/h)
18. Keke Rosberg - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +05.922 (Trap: 264 km/h)
19. Eddie Cheever - Lola-Renault (Goodyear) +05.958 (Trap: 256 km/h)
20. Alan Jones - Toleman-Hart (Goodyear) +06.542 (Trap: 250 km/h)
21. Stefan Johansson - BMW (Pirelli) +06.559 (Trap: 265 km/h)
22. Thierry Boutsen - Toleman-Hart (Goodyear) +06.732 (Trap: 251 km/h)
23. Patrick Tambay - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +06.848 (Trap: 256 km/h)
24. Manfred Winkelhock - BMW (Pirelli) +06.918 (Trap: 266 km/h)
25. Jacques Laffitte - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) +07.166 (Trap: 259 km/h)
26. Pierluigi Martini - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +07.170 (Trap: 259 km/h)
DNQ. Christian Danner - Zakspeed (Pirelli) +07.278 (Trap: 264 km/h)
DNQ. Desiré Wilson - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +08.110 (Trap: 256 km/h)
DNQ. Corrado Fabi - Spirit-Hart (Pirelli) +08.944 (Trap: 251 km/h)
DNQ. Alain Ferté - Ligier-Renault (Pirelli) +09.147 (Trap: 251 km/h)
DNQ. Philippe Streiff - Ligier-Renault (Pirelli) +09.464 (Trap: 252 km/h)

Race Results:
Didier Pironi's first win, since the Dutch Grand Prix of 1982, was surely a wonderful way to open the 1985 season. Ex-Toleman driver Ayrton Senna finished a solid second, and a nasty scrap for French honour between Jarier and Laffite took both of them through the field into third and fourth place, respectively. Rather troubling were the turbo failures for both Lotus', since no further development is available on their Renault engines for the rest of the season. Prost, who had taken the lead from Pironi by this point, crashed-out due to fluid left by Arnoux. Patrese picked-up the Italian Minardi team's first-ever point, while Eddie Cheever - who may already be regretting his patriotism-induced move from Tyrrell to Lola - finished over a minute behind Patrese.

1. Didier Pironi - Ferrari (Goodyear) 1hr 55:40.325
2. Ayrton Senna - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) +01:39.785
3. Jean-Pierre Jarier - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) +03:46.491
4. Jacques Laffitte - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) +03:47.553
5. Stefan Johansson - BMW (Pirelli) +04:06.640
6. Ricardo Patrese - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) +04:22.502
7. Eddie Cheever - Lola-Renault (Goodyear) +05:23.234
Ret. Andrea de Cesaris - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) - Oil pressure
Ret. Thierry Boutsen - Toleman-Hart (Goodyear) - Exhaust
Ret. Alan Jones - Toleman-Hart (Goodyear) - Spun-off
Ret. Pierluigi Martini - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) - Puncture
Ret. Teo Fabi - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) - Accident
Ret. Alessandro Nannini - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) - Engine
Ret. Keke Rosberg - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) - Exhaust
Ret. Steffan Bellof - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) - Turbo
Ret. Manfred Winkelhock - BMW (Pirelli) - Suspension
Ret. Patrick Tambay - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) - Accident
Ret. Derek Warwick - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) - Steering
Ret. Michele Albereto - Ferrari (Goodyear) - Driveshaft
Ret. Alain Prost - Ferrari (Goodyear) - Accident
Ret. René Arnoux - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) - Turbo
Ret. Elio de Angelis - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) - Turbo
Ret. Nigel Mansell - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) - Spun-off
Ret. John Watson - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) - Brakes
Ret. Derek Daly - RAM-Hart (Pirelli) - Radiator
Ret. Nelson Piquet - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) - Driveshaft

Championship Standings:
Driver's Championship
1. Didier Pironi (9 points)
2. Ayrton Senna (6 points)
3. Jean-Pierre Jarier (4 points)
4. Jacques Laffitte (3 points)
5. Stefan Johansson (2 points)
6. Ricardo Patrese (1 point)

Constructor's Championship
1. Ferrari (9 points)
2. Williams (6 points)
3. Tyrrell (4 points)
4. McLaren (3 points)
5. BMW (2 points)
6. Minardi (1 point)

There are 2* D&T opportunities before the next race *(none for Minardi).

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 01 Jul 2017, 21:30

(An introduction to...) D&T (Development & Test) Opportunities
Now that the first race of the season is over, the opportunity to perform D&T (Development & Test) opportunities is upon us!

I shan't copy the whole text of the main 'D&T (Development & Testing)' article, located at the start of the thread, here, but please refer to it for a complete list of D&T opportunities, and how the price of each subsequent D&T opportunity increases per team-entry size. If there is a need (or sufficient demand) for a D&T opportunity not listed below, let me know, and it can be added.

To utilise D&T opportunities, simply list what you'd like to do after each race. Here's an example of spending three D&T opportunities:

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MyTeam would like to: develop our engine x2, improve downforce on our current car x1.

Although most of you are already familiar with how to use D&T opportunities, we have several new managers this season, and they are welcome to post in the thread (or PM me, if they're a bit shy~

) any questions they have!

TheFlyingCaterham · Post by **TheFlyingCaterham** » 01 Jul 2017, 22:19

Osella will use one D&T for reliability and the other for mechanical grip.

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 01 Jul 2017, 22:19

Arrows will spend one D&T on Mechanical grip, and the other on reliability. It seems as if, with a bit more luck (we are Arrows, though), we could get some big results with the A8 considering its apparent pace.

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 01 Jul 2017, 23:28

BioBiro wrote:2 D&Ts before the next race = Minardi get 1, Ferrari get 1, Minardi pay for both

Minardi would like to develop our downforce please.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 02 Jul 2017, 00:57

2 D&T for next years car.

RedEyes504 · Post by **RedEyes504** » 02 Jul 2017, 02:00

BMW will reduce drag & weight

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 02 Jul 2017, 03:00

Aislabie wrote:
BioBiro wrote:2 D&Ts before the next race = Minardi get 1, Ferrari get 1, Minardi pay for both

Minardi would like to develop our downforce please.

BioBiro says a lot of things...

BioBiro wrote:BOSCH, Nationality: German, Industry: Automobile, Income for season: £8,750,000. Note: deprives team of first six D&T opportunities (at no additional cost), due to requiring attendance at media and press events for car launch.

BioBiro wrote:BOSCH:
Minardi - 8% chance
BMW - 91% chance (Same nationality bonus)
Minardi gets it!

I assumed signing BOSCH was a pre-meditated stroke of genius on your part, to negate some of the damage of your R&D arrangement with Ferrari, but now I'm not so sure~ :twisted:

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Dom_Wings · Post by **Dom_Wings** » 02 Jul 2017, 08:20

Lola will use one D&T for downforce and the other one for drag.

Post by **tommykl** » 02 Jul 2017, 09:26

Spirit will spend both D&T opportunities on mechanical grip. We're aiming to qualify for multiple races this year.

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 02 Jul 2017, 20:31

BioBiro wrote:
Aislabie wrote:
BioBiro wrote:2 D&Ts before the next race = Minardi get 1, Ferrari get 1, Minardi pay for both

Minardi would like to develop our downforce please.

BioBiro says a lot of things...

BioBiro wrote:BOSCH, Nationality: German, Industry: Automobile, Income for season: £8,750,000. Note: deprives team of first six D&T opportunities (at no additional cost), due to requiring attendance at media and press events for car launch.
BioBiro wrote:BOSCH:
Minardi - 8% chance
BMW - 91% chance (Same nationality bonus)
Minardi gets it!

I assumed signing BOSCH was a pre-meditated stroke of genius on your part, to negate some of the damage of your R&D arrangement with Ferrari, but now I'm not so sure~ .

I forgot about that! I knew BOSCH was the best sponsor I could sign, I just could no longer remember why. The Eddie Jordan school of management.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 02 Jul 2017, 21:32

Alfa Romeo will spend its D&T on Drag and Downforce

Will the rankings be updated as cars are improved?

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 02 Jul 2017, 22:02

peteroli34 wrote:Alfa Romeo will spend its D&T on Drag and Downforce

Will the rankings be updated as cars are improved?

Of course - before each race

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FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 02 Jul 2017, 22:30

McLaren invests in reducing downforce and reliability

thor97 · Post by **thor97** » 03 Jul 2017, 02:26

2 D&T for Reliability

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 03 Jul 2017, 11:56

To pre-empt overspending, Williams throw both its D&T into next years car.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 03 Jul 2017, 12:16

10. Ricardo Patrese - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) +03.939 (Trap: 297 km/h)

(Trap: 297 km/h)

015/T hand-grenade aside, time to focus on our own car first.

Scuderia Ferrari would like to change our engine development focus from reduce weight to improve reliability, and then spend both D&T tokens on engine development.

CarloSpace · Post by **CarloSpace** » 03 Jul 2017, 15:06

Zakspeed will reduce weight and develop engine.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 03 Jul 2017, 18:26

We have already matched our performance from last year... 1 on reliability. 1 on downforce.

Dexter249 · Post by **Dexter249** » 05 Jul 2017, 16:48

going for broke, we're developing our car for every D&T opportunity this year.

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 05 Jul 2017, 17:44

Dexter249 wrote:going for broke, we're developing our car for every D&T opportunity this year.

Could you specify what exactly you want to develop?

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 06 Jul 2017, 01:29

BioBiro wrote:
Dexter249 wrote:going for broke, we're developing our car for every D&T opportunity this year.
Could you specify what exactly you want to develop?

Minardi's downforce I think

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 06 Jul 2017, 02:18

Aislabie wrote:
BioBiro wrote:Could you specify what exactly you want to develop?

Minardi's downforce I think

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Ice1Racing · Post by **Ice1Racing** » 07 Jul 2017, 23:23

Brabham will use both upgrades on downforce

V8fan12 · Post by **V8fan12** » 09 Jul 2017, 03:53

Tyrrell will spend 2x D&Ts on Mechanical Grip

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 11 Jul 2017, 00:55

D&T after Round 1
First one of the season~!

McLaren

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Downforce increase of 8% (Downforce = 22% > Downforce = 30%). D&T cost was £120,000.
Reliability increase of 6% (Reliability = 41% > Reliability = 47%). D&T cost was £160,000.

Brabham

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Downforce increase of 7% (Downforce = 38% > Downforce = 45%). D&T cost was £120,000.
Downforce increase of 6% (Downforce = 45% > Downforce = 51%). D&T cost was £160,000.

Lotus

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Reliability increase of 4% (Reliability = 64% > Reliability = 68%). D&T cost was £120,000.
Reliability increase of 5% (Reliability = 68% > Reliability = 73%). D&T cost was £160,000.

Ferrari

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Engine reliability increase of 6% (Reliability = 50% > Reliability = 56%). D&T cost was £180,000.
Engine reliability increase of 8% (Reliability = 56% > Reliability = 64%). D&T cost was £240,000.

Tyrrell

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Mechanical grip increase of 8% (Mechanical grip = 29% > Mechanical grip = 37%). D&T cost was £120,000.
Mechanical grip increase of 7% (Mechanical grip = 37% > Mechanical grip = 44%). D&T cost was £160,000.

Alfa Romeo

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Drag decrease of 8% (Drag = 89% < Drag = 81%). D&T cost was £120,000.
Downforce increase of 8% (Downforce = 25% > Downforce = 33%). D&T cost was £160,000.

BMW

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Drag decrease of 7% (Drag = 66% < Drag = 59%). D&T cost was £120,000.
Weight decrease of 6kg (Weight = 593kg < Weight = 587kg). D&T cost was £160,000.

Williams

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Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £120,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £160,000.

Arrows

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Mechanical grip increase of 8% (Mechanical grip = 27% > Mechanical grip = 35%). D&T cost was £120,000.
Reliability increase of 7% (Reliability = 45% > Reliability = 52%). D&T cost was £160,000.

Osella Squadra Corse Alfa

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Reliability increase of 8% (Reliability = 14% > Reliability = 22%). D&T cost was £120,000.
Mechanical grip increase of 9% (Mechanical grip = 8% > Mechanical grip = 17%). D&T cost was £160,000.

Spirit

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Mechanical grip increase of 4% (Mechanical grip = 2% > Mechanical grip = 6%). D&T cost was £60,000.
Mechanical grip increase of 4% (Mechanical grip = 6% > Mechanical grip = 10%). D&T cost was £80,000.

Ligier

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Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £120,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £160,000.

RAM

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Reliability increase of 2% (Reliability = 61% > Reliability = 63%). D&T cost was £60,000.
Downforce increase of 4% (Downforce = 27% > Downforce = 31%). D&T cost was £80,000.

Zakspeed

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Weight decrease of 3kg (Weight = 608kg < Weight = 605kg). D&T cost was £60,000.
Engine reliability increase of 3% (Reliability = 40% > Reliability = 43%). D&T cost was £80,000.

Lola

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Downforce increase of 3% (Downforce = 31% > Downforce = 34%). D&T cost was £60,0000.
Drag decrease of 4% (Drag = 74% < Drag = 70%). D&T cost was £80,000.

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 11 Jul 2017, 00:55

Round 2 - Portugese Grand Prix, Estoril, 21st April 1985

Qualifying Results:
The season debut may not have gone the way he wanted, but Prost was determined to show he was the best in the field, with a superb pole position. Senna enjoyed a front-row start, thanks in no small part to a low-drag setup on his Williams. Both de Cesaris and Patrese made full use of their flat-twelve turbo engines, qualifying a superb third and seventh, respectively. For a team in only their second race weekend as supposed 'front runners', BMW put on a respectable display in qualifying, with the cars starting eleventh and twelfth; as in Kyalami, the Williams team were faster in a straight line despite using the same engines as the German works team. Noticably struggling were Piquet and Laffite in the McLarens, whos cars looked uncomfortable to drive, and were lacking for competitive horsepower.

1. Alain Prost - Ferrari (Goodyear) 01:21.382 (Trap: 269 km/h)
2. Ayrton Senna - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) +0.526 (Trap: 276 km/h)
3. Andrea de Cesaris - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) +0.654 (Trap: 296 km/h)
4. Didier Pironi - Ferrari (Goodyear) +0.787 (Trap: 269 km/h)
5. Michele Albereto - Ferrari (Goodyear) +0.932 (Trap: 269 km/h)
6. John Watson - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) +01.263 (Trap: 264 km/h)
7. Ricardo Patrese - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) +01.525 (Trap: 294 km/h)
8. Steffan Bellof - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) +01.852 (Trap: 274 km/h)
9. Nigel Mansell - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) +01.864 (Trap: 264 km/h)
10. Alessandro Nannini - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +01.931 (Trap: 261 km/h)
11. Stefan Johansson - BMW (Pirelli) +02.146 (Trap: 270 km/h)
12. Manfred Winkelhock - BMW (Pirelli) +02.220 (Trap: 268 km/h)
13. Nelson Piquet - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) +02.295 (Trap: 259 km/h)
14. Jacques Laffitte - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) +02.399 (Trap: 264 km/h)
15. Desiré Wilson - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +02.523 (Trap: 257 km/h)
16. René Arnoux - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) +02.776 (Trap: 262 km/h)
17. Elio de Angelis - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) +02.900 (Trap: 260 km/h)
18. Derek Daly - RAM-Hart (Pirelli) +03.194 (Trap: 255 km/h)
19. Derek Warwick - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) +03.808 (Trap: 265 km/h)
20. Keke Rosberg - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +03.982 (Trap: 264 km/h)
21. Patrick Tambay - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +04.284 (Trap: 256 km/h)
22. Corrado Fabi - Spirit-Hart (Pirelli) +04.599 (Trap: 249 km/h)
23. Jean-Pierre Jarier - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) +04.988 (Trap: 262 km/h)
24. Pierluigi Martini - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +05.370 (Trap: 263 km/h)
25. Christian Danner - Zakspeed (Pirelli) +05.415 (Trap: 260 km/h)
26. Teo Fabi - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +05.598 (Trap: 263 km/h)
DNQ. Eddie Cheever - Lola-Renault (Goodyear) +05.917 (Trap: 252 km/h)
DNQ. Alan Jones - Toleman-Hart (Goodyear) +05.962 (Trap: 250 km/h)
DNQ. Thierry Boutsen - Toleman-Hart (Goodyear) +07.184 (Trap: 250 km/h)
DNQ. Alain Ferté - Ligier-Renault (Pirelli) +07.600 (Trap: 255 km/h)
DNQ. Philippe Streiff - Ligier-Renault (Pirelli) +07.680 (Trap: 253 km/h)

Race Results:
Bad luck - or a lead foot - took Prost out of the lead for the second time, this season; teammate Pironi comfortably shouldered the burden of delighting the Tifosi with his second win in a row. Mid-race, Senna was passed by Pironi and could not keep pace with him, although he attempted to prove himself by building up almost a one-minute gap over teammate Bellof. With attrition ridding the track of the Brabhams and BMWs, the Arrows team grasped the opportunity to bring their red-and-white cars home in points positions. The straight-line speed of the Minardi-Ferrari combination was too quick for the under-developed McLaren piloted by an unhappy Piquet, and it awarded Patrese another point. Despite being well off the pace, Daly's RAM finished the race.

1. Didier Pironi - Ferrari (Goodyear) 1hr 58:02.210
2. Ayrton Senna - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) +02:09.907
3. Steffan Bellof - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) +03:03.611
4. Alessandro Nannini - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +03:31.873
5. Keke Rosberg - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +03:44.830
6. Ricardo Patrese - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) +03:58.920
7. Nelson Piquet - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) +05:10.765
8. Pierluigi Martini - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +06:06.531
9. Derek Daly - RAM-Hart (Pirelli) +06:30.862
Ret. Andrea de Cesaris - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) - Oil pressure
Ret. Corrado Fabi - Spirit-Hart (Pirelli) - Chassis
Ret. Teo Fabi - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) - Spun-off
Ret. Stefan Johansson - BMW (Pirelli) - Driveshaft
Ret. Patrick Tambay - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) - Throttle
Ret. Desiré Wilson - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) - Puncture
Ret. Jean-Pierre Jarier - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) - Driveshaft
Ret. Derek Warwick - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) - Suspension
Ret. Michele Albereto - Ferrari (Goodyear) - Engine
Ret. Alain Prost - Ferrari (Goodyear) - Engine
Ret. René Arnoux - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) - Engine
Ret. Elio de Angelis - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) - Spun-off
Ret. Nigel Mansell - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) - Engine
Ret. John Watson - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) - Spun-off
Ret. Jacques Laffitte - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) - Engine
Ret. Manfred Winkelhock - BMW (Pirelli) - Suspension
Ret. Christian Danner - Zakspeed (Pirelli) - Clutch

Championship Standings:
Driver's Championship
1. Didier Pironi (18 points)
2. Ayrton Senna (12 points)
3. Jean-Pierre Jarier (4 points)
4. Steffan Bellof (4 points)
5. Jacques Laffitte (3 points)
6. Alessandro Nannini (3 points)
7. Stefan Johansson (2 points)
8. Keke Rosberg (2 points)
9. Ricardo Patrese (2 points)

Constructor's Championship
1. Ferrari (18 points)
2. Williams (16 points)
3. Arrows (5 points)
4. Tyrrell (4 points)
5. McLaren (3 points)
6. BMW (2 points)
7. Minardi (2 points)

There are 2* D&T opportunities before the next race *(none for Minardi).

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 11 Jul 2017, 00:55

House of Commons, Westminster, 25th April 1985
"... I give way to the Honourable Gentleman."

Prime Minister Thatcher lowers herself to her seat, as delicately as ever, despite the heated atmosphere. Secretary of State for Defence, Michael Heseltine, quickly rises - quicker than a man of his age most likely should be doing.

"Prime Minister, I thank you for your response but I must take exception to your desire to privatize a company of which forty million-pounds of taxpayer's money has been invested. Westland has a willing buyer, who's demands indicate he is looking out for the company's best interests." Muffled gaffaws and snorts can be distantly heard, from the opposition bench.

Mrs Thatcher feistily drops her papers on the large desk in front of her, and stands. "That forty million-pounds is money the taxpayers of every constituency in this House will never see again, unless effective private ownership of this company can be gotten, and I believe a merger with the most prosperous company in the relevant industry in the world is quite something, let me tell you. The demands placed upon the government from the consortium formed by Sir Alan Bristow are understandable given the precarious economy position of Westland, but I do not plan to write-off the debt owed by the company to the treasury at any point during my tenure in this position, nor will the Honourable Gentleman to my..." The Prime Minister turns her head one way, and then the other. "... to my left, here, Trade Secretary Tebbit."

The Defence Secretary is not yet finished; one might suggest the Prime Minister has underestimated the seriousness of the matter. "Well, I must say, I am surprised at the conduct of our leader. I do not believe the British people wish for more of our industry to be sold-off to the Americans, and I think it is extremely dishonest of the Prime Minister to attempt to discredit my stance on this issue simply to strengthen relations overseas or to give Baron Cuckney another favour."

"Order, or-" shouts Commons Speaker, Bernard Weatherhill, before being overpowered by chatter from the backbenches. "Order! I'm standing! I am stood!" The noise quickly dies down. "The Honourable Member for Henley has made a slur unbecoming of himself and the House; I implore you to retract and apologize for that last remark."

"Mr Speaker, I will not." Papers, and even the odd leather Filofax, begin to be waved about among the Tory assembly. "I have here-" Shouting overpowers Defense Secretary Heseltine, forcing him to start his sentence over again. "I have here, a signed affidavit from one 'Christopher Moncrieff', who has given evidence, here, that the office of the Prime Minister, under the order of Mrs Thatcher, herself, leaked the confidential information currently circulating in the press, in an attempt to discredit my desire to see the Westland Aircraft company remain a British-," he corrects himself, "-a European-owned manufacturer."

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 11 Jul 2017, 03:57

Ligiers gonna try something and do 2 weight reduction upgrades.

Post by **tommykl** » 11 Jul 2017, 07:55

Spirit will spend some money on reliability and mechanical grip.