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1. Haas - Ran like garbage at their home race. Wait, this is just fake news from the biased and failing media! Haas had a great weekend, such a big weekend. They know races, they have the best races. Such a great day, it's awesome.

2. Kyle Larson's engine, and by extension the NASCAR Chase system - One of the best performers this year will now not be challenging for the title. Thanks, Brian France. :facepalm:

Honourable mention to David Coulthard for still going along with the "Mercedes have a difficult car" line. Yes, because 10 (now 11) wins this season is evidence of a difficult car. :badoer:
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1. Liberty Media - moving qualifying for a concert does not speak well of the value of your product.

2. Kevin Magnussen - way to drive like a total tit.
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Stewards- only choice really. Bathplugged up a great and exciting finish and ruined the race. Obviously overtaking is illegal in F1. Unreal.
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RoTR:
1. Haas: Anonymous, right until being crashed into.
2. Renault (as an engine supplier): Before the race: "ahead of reliability targets" After the Race: two engine failures, one with a 2017.5 spec engine.
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Stroll: Dangerous in qualifying, anonymous in the race
Magnussen: Eventually he is going to learn to back off- he keeps getting into accidents, even if they aren't entirely his fault.
Honda: 100% of the races Alonso has started in America this year have ended with an engine failure.
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1. Kevin Magnussen - Three years on and I'm still seeing a McLaren rookie whose spatial perception seems limited.

2. Making nominations that have no relationship with the Grand Prix whatsoever - I'm just sick of seeing NASCAR-related nominations every other weekend. :P
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1- K-Mag: Just go home already...

2- Stroll: Not the best weekend...
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1. THE BATHPLUGGING STEWARDS

2. THE BATHPLUGGING STEWARDS
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All points to the stewards. In particular, that steward.

I don't think there is a single corner that wasn't cut significantly in quali and the race.
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East Londoner wrote:Honourable mention to David Coulthard for still going along with the "Mercedes have a difficult car" line. Yes, because 10 (now 11) wins this season is evidence of a difficult car. :badoer:

Well, it should be said that Coulthard was talking about the Bottas's relative performance at the time - and he might be more inclined to agree with that viewpoint as he seems to be finding things much more difficult on his side of the garage.

Equally, to be fair to Magnussen I would say that the incident between himself and Ericsson was more of a racing incident, and I wouldn't blame Magnussen entirely - Ericsson was coming from a reasonable way back, and Magnussen was probably distracted by Vettel moving back across to the racing line in front of him.

That said, overall he was already not doing great given the earlier clash and the generally poor pace he'd had - the fact that he was struggling to beat Sauber, a team that hasn't developed their car for months whilst Haas were introducing their latest (and final) upgrade package this weekend, whilst Grosjean was little better in terms of performance and his rant over the radio did feel a bit childish (and reminiscent of some of Grosjean's less attractive character traits that I had hoped he'd stopped with).

In that case, the first nomination would be both Haas drivers whilst for the second I would go with Hulkenberg and his car - partly the car, since it was plagued by problems, but partly Hulkenberg himself as he had been driving rather poorly during the practise sessions (making an unusual number of errors), as if he'd let Sainz's move to the team affect his performance.

I guess that the stewards will be getting a lot of nominations, but looking at some of the screenshots it has to be said that Verstappen does seem to have cut the corner by a fairly sizeable margin in the process of passing Kimi. It might not be popular, but I can see why the stewards did take the decision that they did (even if it may not be entirely palatable).
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1. Haas F1 Team: Awful performance in their home race, one driver beaten by a debutant and the other by a Sauber!
2. (shared, 3 points for each) Honda: How many times has Alonso lost points this year due to the horrible engine?
Pierre Gasly's luck: Misses the F1 race for Super Formula (apparently against his own will), loses pole position (and the point for it) due to a red flag and traffic, and then both races get cancelled, meaning that he loses by half a point. Definitely not his weekend.
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1. That horrible introduction of all the drivers at the start. Totally overblown crap.

2. Bottas - not good for a #2 driver - could have made it more difficult for Vettel to pass too, he just surrendered really easily.

While the Verstappen decision was disappointing, he did have all 4 wheels off the track, and he'd have been asked to give Kimi the place back if it hadn't ben the last lap.
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1/ Hahahahahaas - Your car is a boat and your "strong driver pairing" is holding up about as well as tissue paper. The all-American team was an all-American embarrasment.

2/ General decision-making in various series - Gasly robbed of his shot at a Super Formula crown and Max Verstappen robbed of a podium that he completely deserved, inches of tarmac be damned.
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Simtek wrote:

[b]2. Making nominations that have no relationship with the Grand Prix whatsoever
- I'm just sick of seeing NASCAR-related nominations every other weekend. :P

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1. Liberty Media
2. Aerond
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(1) The stewards, really?

(2) The driver intro and general 'Murican razamataz*


* except the pit lane girls, some of whom were clearly following the Pirelli guidelines on inflation pressures :lol:
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1. Haas: Disappointing home race with neither finishing in the points.

2. Bottas: Quite anonymous compared to Hamilton, the Ferraris and Red Bulls
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1. Bottas - Finishing 5th in the winning car and costing me a lot of prediction points
2. Tarmac runoff areas - Turn 19, turn 10, turn 1, turn 16, turn everything, just put a strip of grass there
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1. Liberty Media - Nice Culture Victory, Bro!, Too bad this is a Motorsport and not Civilization 5!
2. America Itself - For Watching NASCAR instead of the "Biggest" motorsport event in America.

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1. Magnussen
2.Grosjean

The Haas surely wasnt as bad as it raced, so I am apportioning responsibility to the drivers .And Kevin keeps hitting things and getting the way; which has depressed his performance
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1. Liberty Media - The pre-race stuff was cringeworthy at best.
2. The stewards - "Hey, we're pushing for good racing, let's punish the only driver who cared to race today for no apparent reason!"
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Dexter249 wrote:2. America Itself - For Watching NASCAR instead of the "Biggest" motorsport event in America.



There's also American football (Hand-Egg, as I like to call it), real football, baseball, and basketball going on too. :pantano:
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golic_2004 wrote:
Dexter249 wrote:2. America Itself - For Watching NASCAR instead of the "Biggest" motorsport event in America.



There's also American football (Hand-Egg, as I like to call it), real football, baseball, and basketball going on too. :pantano:

Remember, This is Texas we're talking about, literal redneck country :pantano:, but yeah, being from Canada, it's a shame to see our Neighbor suffer from, not just F1 being absolute Garbage, but NASCAR as well, Seriously the Pinty's Series has the best racing in all of NASCAR.
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1. Kevin Magnussen, Romain Grosjean - K-Mag is really starting to show why he's an ex-McLaren junior. I'm starting to lose sympathy for what McLaren did to him, and some. RoGro's showing shades of his same old self that I would have been calling for him to get kicked out of his seat. Poor Gene... his cars should've been up higher in the order.

2. Race Stewards - Wasn't there some sort of "promise" at some earlier point in time that the podium after any given race wouldn't be changed? Never mind screwing Max over, even if he did cut the corner too much.
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1. The race stewards! What could Max do? Kimi was forcing him off!
2. Kevin Magnussen
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1. Haas
2. Kevin Magnussen
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1. Razzmatazz WTAF this is f1 not some silly "staged" wrestlemania
2. Bottas is looking a bit Meh and dead beat

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1. The Prerace driver introductions/show You can tell we are in the USA everything is over the top

People moaning about Verstappen's Penalty - Going from behind the care in front to being in front of said car with all 4 wheels off the track should rightly be a penalty. Lets allow drivers to cut corners to overtake somebody.
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1993DonningtonNo1Mk2 wrote:1. The race stewards! What could Max do? Kimi was forcing him off!
2. Kevin Magnussen

He could also have backed off slightly before he got into that situation.

Speaking of Max though, I have to say that my opinion of him has rather dropped given some of the comments that he made after the race, and in particular reportedly calling Connelly a "mongol" - in other words, calling him mentally retarded by using what is now considered to be a rather derogatory term for somebody with Down syndrome.

I can understand that he is frustrated and might think that Connelly was stupid for penalising him, but I do think that he was taking things a bit too far with those remarks.
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mario wrote:
1993DonningtonNo1Mk2 wrote:1. The race stewards! What could Max do? Kimi was forcing him off!
2. Kevin Magnussen

He could also have backed off slightly before he got into that situation.

Speaking of Max though, I have to say that my opinion of him has rather dropped given some of the comments that he made after the race, and in particular reportedly calling Connelly a "mongol" - in other words, calling him mentally retarded by using what is now considered to be a rather derogatory term for somebody with Down syndrome.

I can understand that he is frustrated and might think that Connelly was stupid for penalising him, but I do think that he was taking things a bit too far with those remarks.


I will admit my words were kind of a knee-jerk reaction but it was still an anti-climatic end to such a thrilling battle but as long as Max doesn't resort to saying offensive comments about Autistic people such as myself, I'll refrain from expecting him to watch his mouth for now.
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The results from the U.S.A. are in! 17 different nominations, and there sure were a lot of popularly hated things about this race :P

1. Haas 70
2. Stewards 65

3. Kevin Magnussen 53
4. Liberty Media 40
5. The pre-race intro 36
6. Valtteri Bottas 28
7. Romain Grosjean 11
8. Pierre Gasly's luck 9
9. Aerond 6
- Tarmac runoff areas 6
- The United States of America 6
- People moaning about the penalty 6
- Kyle Larson's engine, and by extension the NASCAR Chase system 6
- Renault engines 6
- Making nominations that have no relation with the grand prix whatsoever 6
- Lance Stroll 6
- Nico Hulkenberg / 's car 6

I didn't combine the Haas team and its drivers, because there were different reasons given for the different options people gave. Regardless, Haas ended up winning the ROTR award for their terrible performance at their home race, the exact place they were looking to shine and to appeal to the home crowd. Runner-up were the stewards for their controversial penalty applied to Max Verstappen for his last-lap overtake of Kimi Räikkönen. Not everyone agreed with the ruling, and the handling by the FIA and the Verstappens post-race was poor to say the least. Liberty Media got the brunt of a lot of complaints, whether it was for their product or for their decision to do such an overblown intro to the race. Either way, that didn't appear to be too popular with the forumites either.
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