Scrub Era F1: 1990 - A New Decade Begins

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Team: Ligier
Cars: 2 cars

CHASSIS
Chassis Choice 1: Benetton B189 - rebaged as JS189
Cost: 285000:
Agreed with Kinnikuniverse
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ENGINES:
Engine Choice 1: Ferrari 037 (customer)
Cost: 364000 (agreed with frogfoot/anna)


TYRES

Tyre Supplier: Pirelli
Cost: 200000
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Team: Scuderia Ferrari SpA SEFAC
Cars: Two-car

Chassis name: 640 (Upgrade of 1989-spec car)

Engine: Ferrari (of course)
Cost: £750k

Tyres: Avon
Cost: whatever's down the back of the couch :chilton:
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Team: Footwork Project 4

Chassis Option 1: Mclaren MP4/5 (agreed with Dom, £280k + £112k if Isuzu signed, £300k + £120k if otherwise, rebadged to Footwork FP4/5Bs after redesign)
Chassis Option 2: Dallara F190 (£380k)

Engine Option 1: Isuzu P799WE (£300k)
Engine Option 2: Yamaha OX88 (£240k, will pay back the difference if we finish top 10 in the constructors)
Engine Option 3: Judd EV (£100k)

Tyres: Pirelli (£200k)
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Team: Zakspeed
Cars: 2

CHASSIS:
Chassis Choice 1: Lola LC90
Cost: 450k

Chassis Choice 2: Dallara F190
Cost: 380k

Chassis name: 901
Tier: C
Cost: 200k design costs + 300k building costs = 500k total costs.
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ENGINES:
Engine Choice 1:Ferrari
Cost: 364k(as agreed on Discord)
Additional Conditions: -
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TYRES
Tyre Supplier: Pirelli
Cost: 200k
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Team: Camel McLaren
Cars: 2

>>> IF you are building your own chassis:
Chassis name: M31
Tier: A
Cost: 800k design + 500k build

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ENGINES:
Engine Choice 1: Honda RA109E
Cost: £800k

Engine Choice 2: Renault RS2
Cost: £825k

Engine Choice 3: Ford Cosworth HBA4
Cost: £650k

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TYRES
Tyre Supplier: Pirelli
Cost: £200k
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Updated my info. I will also confirm that Zakspeed gets a 1000£ loan from Ligier. :P
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Team: Minardi
Cars: 2

CHASSIS
>>> IF you are building your own chassis:
Chassis name: M190
Tier: C
Cost: 200K + 300K

ENGINES:
Engine Choice 1: Ford DFV
Cost: 200K

TYRES
Tyre Supplier: Pirelli
Cost: 200K
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Team: Tyrrell
Cars: Two-car-team

CHASSIS
Chassis name: 019
Tier: B-tier
Cost: $400.000 + $400.000
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ENGINES
Engine Choice 1: Ford HBA4
Cost (Bid): 325k
Additional Conditions: Tyrrell would argue (in nice marketing/business-speak) that as Ferrari seem to be providing a sizeable portion of the grid at a near 50% discount for an engine that is, on balance, slightly ahead of the HBA4, Ford must do the same if it wishes to attract customers. As McLaren and Williams will almost certainly use Honda and Renault and Ferrari and Bennetton using Ferraris, Tyrell would be the best team to showcase the Ford works engine (On account of its 1989 finish)

Engine Choice 2: Ford DFR
Cost: Cost price
Additional Conditions:

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TYRES
Tyre Supplier: Goodyear
Cost: $300.000
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Team: Lamborghini

Primary business:
1x Lamborghini supply to Scuderia Italia @ £350k
1x Lamborghini supply to Monteverdi @ £350k
1x sale of BT58 to Monteverdi @ £70,000

should net me £370k in post-building cost sales, thus bringing budget up to £2,123,000.

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Cars: 2

>>> IF you are building your own chassis:
Chassis name: Lamborghini BT59L
Tier: B
Cost: £400k + £400k

Budget post-chassis: £1,323,000
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ENGINES:
Engine Choice 1: Lamborghini
Cost: £500k

Budget post-engine: £823,000
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TYRES
Tyre Supplier: Pirelli
Cost: £200,000

Budget post-tyres: £623,000
Post-entry: £123,000
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Team: 90 WILLIAMS
Cars: 2 car team

Chassis: B-spec chassis for new season (of b-spec 1989 car)
Cost: £120,000

Engine: Renault RS2
Cost: £830,000
Additional Conditions: They want £900,000, but instead Williams promises that if we finish in the top 3 in the championship, we'll pay them the extra £170,000 to give them a big fat £million by season end.

Tyre Supplier: Goodyear
Cost: £300,000

1,750,000 - 1,250,000, which leaves us exactly 500,000 for the FIA fee.

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Team: PIAA Scuderia Italia
Cars: Two

CHASSIS
Chassis Choice 1: Dallara F190
Cost: 380 000

ENGINES:
Engine Choice 1: Lamborghini
Cost: 350 000 (agreed with Ataxia)
Additional Conditions: N/A

TYRES
Tyre Supplier: Pirelli
Cost: 200 000
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Team: Toshiba Arrows
Cars : Two

Chassis:
Chassis Type 1: Lola LC90
Cost : $450,000

Chassis Type 2: Reynard 90F1
Cost : $310,000
Engines
Engine 1: Isuzu P799WE
Cost : $300,000 (cmon, Japanese sponsor, plus an up-and-coming Japanese star, how could you refuse ; it's a no-brainer for ya, really)
Engine 2: Ford Cosworth DFR
Cost : $200,000

Tyres
Tyre 1 : Pirelli
Cost : $200,000
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Team: Lucchini Scuderia Coloni
Cars: Two

CHASSIS
Name: Coloni CL4

Chassis Choice 1: Lotus 101
Cost: 120.000 (Agreed with Dan) + 48.000 for refurbishment
Chassis Choice 2: Dallara F189
Cost: 120.000 (Agreed with Mugl) + 48.000 for refurbishment
Chassis Choice 3: E-Tier
Cost: 150.000

ENGINES:
Engine Choice 1: Lamborghini
Cost: 100 000 (not agreed with Ataxia)
Additional Conditions: Having heard some rumors about the desperation of the American executives at Chrysler, Enzo Coloni has decided that there is nothing to lose by doing a desperate attempt to approach Lamborghini for an engine supply, suited to his team's budget. Perhaps, he hopes, the Lamborghini executives can be persuaded by promises of increased exposure of Chrysler brands in the Italian market and the promise of sponsorship space in the soon to be revealed CL4, all discussed over a bottle of Orvieto (35000 Lire, or 16.45 GBP at the going rate)

Engine Choice 2: Judd
Cost: 100 000
Additional Conditions: N/A

TYRES
Tyre Supplier: Pirelli
Cost: 200 000

Budget: 980 - 470 = 510
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Team: Monteverdi
Cars: Two Car team

CHASSIS
Chassis Choice 1: Brabham BT58 (As confirmed by Ataxia)
Cost: $70k (plus 28k for conversion)

ENGINES:
Engine Choice 1: Lamborghini
Cost: $350k
Additional Conditions: Rebadged to whatever Ataxia requests

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TYRES
Tyre Supplier: Pirelli
Cost: $200k
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Team: Image Rial Racing
Cars: 2

Chassis: 1989 Arrows A11
Cost: £70,000 purchase price, plus £28,000 update price

Engine: Judd EV
Cost: £100,000

Tyres: Avon
Cost: Our dignity

Remaining Budget: £502,000

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Team: Image EuroBrun Subaru

Chassis: Special
Cost: £50,000

Engine: Subaru 1235
Cost: £100,000

Tyres: Pirelli
Cost: £200,000

Remaining Budget: £523,000
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Team: West Team Lotus
Cars: 2

Chassis: Lotus 102 (B-Tier)
Cost: £800k

Engine Choice 1: Isuzu P799WE
Cost: £300k

Engine Choice 2: Ford Cosworth DFR
Cost: £200k

Tyres: Goodyear
Cost: £300k
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To let everyone know, any bids not already placed by 23:59 GMT on Saturday evening will be placed automatically by me in the best interests of your teams.

Car RNG is scheduled to take place on Sunday on the Discord server, and entry fees will be taken from your teams' accounts after it is concluded. If I see that you have placed bids between the deadline and the start of RNG they will be counted, but I cannot promise to see late bids.

Can I please also thank everyone for the creativity they have shown in this phase, even though it probably does make things more difficult on my end.
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Frank Williams has had a premonition and woken up with a cold sweat. He calls up Patrick Head and realises, "bathplug, we need a reserve driver."

He and Head bang their heads together the next day, thinking up a plan. Having heard that Rial are running some German prodigy by the name of Mike Schumacher, Williams knows that Rial need every penny they can get. Being in an identical situation (broke), Frank calls up their head Ais la Bie ("It's French" says Patrick Head) to ask about a deal. A deal is agreed upon.

As neither Williams nor Rial have any money, the two partners have agreed that, should Nannini for whatever reason get injured, Michael Schumacher will be Williams top reserve driver. It will bring good talent to the top team, and no money will be exchanged for this deal. Instead, all of Schumacher's money will continue to go to Rial's bank account as if nothing had taken place.

Williams have their eye on Schumacher regardless for the future. They have added a clause to the contract that says, should Schumacher drive for Williams during the 1990 season, Rial are not to pursue him for 1991, and in fact should persuade Michael under pain of death that he absolutely must go to Williams the following year.
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Osella things:
Engine: Judd EV
Tires: Pirelli
Chassis: Deal with Ligier, $15k for their old chassis + Ligier option on Grouillard (approved in Discord)
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Just to say Tyrrell should be a b-tier chassis - the chart says C tier with a B tier price tag (Maybe the raised nose concept is a failure?)
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Collieafc wrote:Just to say Tyrrell should be a b-tier chassis - the chart says C tier with a B tier price tag (Maybe the raised nose concept is a failure?)


Thank you - have rectified this
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Re: Scrub-Era F1: 1990 - Chassis, Engine and Tyre Signing

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Team: FIRST Life
Cars: (either a one or two car team)

CHASSIS

>>> IF you are updating a previous year's chassis:
Chassis name: F189
Tier: Special
Cost:

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ENGINES:
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TYRES
Tyre Supplier: Avon
Cost:
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Team: Automobiles Gonfaronnaises Sportives
Cars: 2

Chassis: AGS JH25 (C-Tier, new)
Design Cost: £200,000

Engine Choice 1: Judd
Cost: £100,000

Tyres: Pirleli
Cost: £200,000

Remaining Budget: 533,000
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Chassis: Onyx ORE-2
Tier: C
Number: 2

Engine Choice 1: Judd EV

Tyres: Pirleli
Cost: £100,000
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Patrick Head and Frank Williams are sitting in the office in Grove having tea and biscuits, when the secretary comes in with a letter.

"It's from Renault", Patrick tells Frank. He opens it and gives it a skim-through, frowns, then reads it again. "Um, Frank. Did you talk to Renault over the phone about our deal?"

"Yes", replies Frank.

"Did you conduct the interview with them in French again?"

"Yes", Franks says.

"Excellent work Frank! They didn't understand a word you said, and are giving us the engine discount without any of the conditions!"

"They spent a potential one hundred and seventy thousand quid just to get me off the phone. All in a day's work, Patrick."

The two colleagues high-five.

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I feel like I have missed something with being on the line with Ford. I checked Discord but couldnt see any clear topic for this game. Just in case there is something I should be doing
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Scrub-Era F1: 1990 - Car-NG

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It's time for some Scrub Era Car-NG. Let us begin with that which doesn't require any RNG at all: Tyres.

Goodyear Tyres (medium grip, high durability) go to:
  • Williams
  • Tyrrell
  • Leyton House
  • Lotus

A drastically smaller set of runners than in previous years as they feel the effects of being undercut by Pirelli.

Pirelli Tyres (high grip, medium durability) go to:
  • McLaren
  • Benetton
  • AGS
  • Ligier
  • EuroBrun
  • Fondmetal
  • Footwork Project Four
  • Lamborghini
  • Coloni
  • Zakspeed
  • Monteverdi
  • Osella
  • Scuderia Italia
  • Onyx
  • Minardi
  • Arrows

Pirelli have become the predominant tyre supplier in all of Formula One, thanks to their lower price point.

Avon Tyres (low grip, low durability)
  • Ferrari
  • Rial
  • First-Life

The F3000 tyre manufacturer is stepping up to F1 amid a cost crisis, though nobody knows if they will actually provide an F1-quality tyre.

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Now, onto the engines:

Ferrari have been out shaking the charity box selling their engines to interested customers
In addition to powering themselves, they have also sold a bunch of customer engines at less than half price. This means we will have:
  • Ferrari
  • Benetton-Ferrari
  • Ligier-Lancia (rebadged Ferraris)
  • Zakspeed-Ferrari
These are all deals that have been agreed on both ends so no harm there.

Lamborghini have also been out drumming up customers in what looks like an Italian arms race. They will be supplying:
  • Lamborghini
  • Monteverdi-Lamborghini
  • Scuderia Italia-Lamborghini

Coloni also attempted to approach Lamborghini for a customer deal at half of cost-price, and never so much as heard back about that because of course they didn't.

Honda accept an asking price offer from the Ron Dennisless McLaren.

Renault have only one offer, but Frank Williams is playing semi-hardball. He's offering £830,000 instead of the requested £900,000.
1-50 - Renault accept immediately because they have no other offers
51-100 - Renault do "negotiation" until Sir Frank Rob Dylan capitulates and promises a conditional £170k on top of that at the end of the season

37 - Renault are cool with the 70k discount, anything to get Frank's frightful French off the phone.

Isuzu have built an F1 engine just to prove they can, and it turns out a bunch of teams are interested in it. They were: AGS, Footwork Project Four, Arrows and Lotus, but AGS withdrew their bid leaving just the three British teams.
1-30 - Isuzu see significant upside in a mutually beneficial engineering relationship :dennis:
31-60 - Arrows are a pretty established name in F1, but not so much in the spotlight if this goes tits up
61-100 - Colin Chapman would be proud

80 - Say hello to West Team Lotus Isuzu.

We now have an intriguing bid for works Fords from Tyrrell:
Ken Tyrrell wrote:Tyrrell would argue (in nice marketing/business-speak) that as Ferrari seem to be providing a sizeable portion of the grid at a near 50% discount for an engine that is, on balance, slightly ahead of the HBA4, Ford must do the same if it wishes to attract customers. As McLaren and Williams will use Honda and Renault and Benetton are using Ferraris, Tyrrell would be the best team to showcase the Ford works engine (On account of its 1989 finish)
That all sounds lovely until they get to the kicker: they want the engines for 325k. This is a 275k discount on the 600k price tag, but there's nobody else with any money who is interested in the expensive Fords.
1-30 - Ford accept out of desperation
31-100 - Ford accept, but will be collecting the rest of that money at the end of the season come what may

77 - If Tyrrell can't pay that back by the end of the season, there will be implications.

Yamaha also have an offer: Footwork Project Four are looking to get them for 240k, a steep discount on the marked price.
1-40 - Accepts on the spot
41-70 - Negotiates, and accepts Big Ron's offer of the difference being paid at the end of the season on the condition of a top 10 WCC finish
71-100 - Negotiates further and insists on the difference being made up at the end of the season regardless.

54 - Ron Dennis has now become the Team Principal of Footwork-Yamaha.

The rest of the grid has scrubby engines:
  • Arrows-Ford
  • Minardi-Ford
  • AGS-Judd
  • Coloni-Judd
  • Fondmetal-Judd
  • Leyton House-Judd
  • Onyx-Judd
  • Osella-Judd
  • Rial-Judd
  • First-Life
  • EuroBrun-Subaru

However, there is some concern coming out of Maranello about the amount of Ferrari customers. Ferrari have never supplied customers like this before, and now they are supplying power to eight of the grid's cars.
1-33 - Fortunately, these guys are experts in their field and it'll be fine
34-66 - The engines are slapped together a bit, and the customers' reliability suffers as a result
67-99 - Ferrari slapped together all engines, including their own and they'll all go *BOOM*
100 - They got help from Renzo Engineering to meet all of the demand

93 - That could be a problem.

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For chassis RNG, I will not be posting every RNGed number into the thread. Instead, I will do a short written summary of each chassis.

Our first chassis RNG will be to decide the fate of the Lola T90. It has interest from two teams at opposite ends of the alphabet: Arrows and Zakspeed. Arrows are by far the most experienced team, but Zakspeed have come in with their Marlboro money so it's not a complete non-contest
1-66 - A
67-100 - Z

42 - Arrows will take the customer Lolas, while Zakspeed will have to continue building their own.

With the Fomet locked in at Fondmetal and the Dallara locked in at Scuderia Italia, we now know what everyone's chassis will be called. We do not yet know how they will all perform. For that, we will start at the bottom of the entry list and work our way up.

We start with #48 and #49: Footwork Yamaha. They have bought McLaren MP4/5 cars that were the class of the field in 1989. But how has the aging process treated them? The new FP4/5B retains most of its grip and reliability, but does so at the cost of some new parts adding to the drag and weight.

Monteverdi is updating an old Brabham BT58. They had an unremarkable RNG, losing a little bit of performance and reliability, but with Mike Groff and Enrico Bertaggia behind the wheel does it really matter?

First-Life updated the F189. In order to pass the crash tests this time, they lost a lot of whatever pace was even available in the first place and ended up with an overweight car.

EuroBrun were the first team building an entirely new car: the ER190. It came out fairly grippy, but with horribly unpredictable handling and enormous drag.

AGS designed a C-Tier chassis, the JH25. It will be moderately grippy with excellent handling. However, in order to pay their FIA entry fees, they will not be building it until after they have paid. It will be a massive rush job for a team that doesn't have the staff to bathplug around like this.
1-20 - They get away with it just fine despite the rush
21-40 - Some aerodynamic parts aren't fitted in time (lower grip, lower drag)
41-60 - The engine doesn't get mounted quite right, causing a vibration (lower handling, lower reliability)
61-90 - Spare parts are used from the 1989 car to get it done in time (two random attributes moved to E-Tier)
91-100 - They get the fine folks at Renzo Engineering in to help them out

40 - Straight-line speed is better than expected, but cornering speed is not.

Rial have bought an old Arrows A11, paid for with money that the team only just has. Their car retained most of its raw pace, but gained a Schmid-esque knack for throwing its drivers into the wall (bad handling).

The next car is the Onyx ORE-2. Despite it being a C-Tier, the grip looks to be shocking, as does the handling, although the drag is low enough for it to hold its own in a straight line.

Zakspeed used their Marlboro money to also build a C-Tier chassis. The 901 is a good, predictable chassis that lacks only in terms of outright grip.

Coloni have purchased an old Lotus 101, but had some real trouble converting it into the Coloni C4. Their new car has significant grip and handling problems compared to its past life as a Lotus.

Now for the one we've all been waiting for: Ferrari. Their conversion of the 1989 Ferrari 640 went pretty well all things considered, with no glaring new weaknesses, and some reinforcements added to the suspension in anticipation of the 50p-shaped Avons.

Ligier bought a second-hand Benetton rather than building their own car from scratch, no doubt traumatised by the JS33 (more on that later). The oddly-named JS35L looked like a really faithful adaptation of the old Benetton, until someone looked inside the car to find an emergency 10-kilo stash of Brie, for French emergencies.

Minardi also built a C-Tier chassis. The M190 isn't bad, but it does drag worse than a Pablo Larrain film. It does however have Nice. reliability.

Scuderia Italia bought the Dallara F190, details of which can be found on the spreadsheet.

Benetton managed to scrounge up enough money to build an A-Tier chassis. It scored excellently in all departments except reliability, which should see lots of lovely retirements from pole position. More like Eric van de Pole, amirite?

Now earlier I mentioned the Ligier JS33. It was purchased on the cheap by Osella, who are converting it for use in 1990. They didn't roll horribly, but the car they were converting was already a dog. Looks like lots of DNPQs for the team from Verolengo.

Leyton House could afford to build a B-Tier chassis. It proved to be an excellent chassis in all ways except for outright grip.

West Team Lotus Isuzu also decided to build a B-Tier chassis to give to the double-barrelled duo of Heinz-Harald [Frentzen] and [Luis] Perez-Sala. In true Lotus fashion, it was grippy and fast but with unpredictable handling and imperfect reliability.

Arrows' Lola can already be found on the Spreadsheet.

Now for the new pride of Italy, Lamborghini. Their B-Tier turned out to be quite grippy and to handle well, but with lots of drag and excess ballast. Not noticeably different to the Dallara in the end.

Having spent all their money on 90MANSELL, Williams chose to convert their previous year's chassis. This looked like a good decision, as it will be a good chassis if slightly unpredictable in terms of handling.

The Tyrrell car looked like an excellent B-Tier chassis, with bulletproof reliability putting them in prime position to capitalise if and when any faster cars retire from higher up in the points.

Finally, the McLaren car: one of only two A-Tier chassis on the grid, they produced the lightest and least draggy car on the grid, even if it's outright grip and reliability are both slightly down on last year.

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Based on an entirely arbitrary formula that likely has no bearing on the actual season that's coming up, those chassis (excluding engines and tyres) are rated as follows:
  1. McLaren
  2. Benetton
  3. Footwork Project Four
  4. Tyrrell
  5. Ferrari
  6. Williams
  7. Leyton House
  8. Arrows (Lola)
  9. Lotus
  10. Zakspeed
  11. Ligier
  12. Scuderia Italia (Dallara)
  13. Lamborghini
  14. AGS
    Reynard
  15. Rial
  16. Minardi
  17. Coloni
  18. Onyx
  19. Monteverdi
  20. Fondmetal (Fomet)
    Simtek
  21. Osella
  22. EuroBrun
  23. First-Life

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An update to the teams' budgets, and payment of FIA fees to follow shortly.
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Aislabie wrote:Based on an entirely arbitrary formula that likely has no bearing on the actual season that's coming up, those chassis (excluding engines and tyres) are rated as follows
Ah ok I see, I was wondering why Ferrari were so low :pantano:
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Minardi and Scuderia Italia are both in danger of not being able to pay the FIA fees. If I don't hear from Miguel and Bleu by the end of this weekend, I will railroad them into decisions that get their respective teams to the start line.

In future, I will be letting teams go bankrupt in situations like this, but on balance I don't want anyone to have to miss out before the game strictly starts
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Aislabie wrote:In future, I will be letting teams go bankrupt in situations like this, but on balance I don't want anyone to have to miss out before the game strictly starts
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If there is no other option I will move to Avon tyres.
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I also have confirmation from Ligier and Scuderia Italia of a loan that covers most of their shortfall. The rest will be covered by withholding some of Martini's salary until they've paid the FIA.

Bleu wrote:If there is no other option I will move to Avon tyres.

This certainly works. It is by no means the only option, but I will grant it. An alternative option would have been to cut down Caffi's schedule and then shop out his seat to someone who pays enough money to make up the difference.

If you'd like to take this option then please let me know before I put the FIA fees post together tomorrow afternoon/evening and I'll run the RNGs while putting that post together. If I don't hear anything by then, it will be Avon tyres for Minardi, and we'll get the game moving.
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We can now confirm that all teams have now paid their FIA fees. Some teams had to take extra steps to achieve this:
  • AGS have delayed building their car until after fees are paid, with a consequent effect on reliability.
  • Ferrari have partially withheld Nelson Piquet's salary until the end of the season.
  • Minardi have switched to a supply of Avon tyres.
  • Osella have accepted a small loan from Ligier
  • Scuderia Italia have accepted a loan from Ligier with their chassis as collateral, and partially withheld Pierluigi Martini's salary until later in the season.

The Brazilian Grand Prix is now just round the corner!
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Autoscrub wrote:90 WILLIAMS have formally announced to the world's media that they intend to buy Ferrari. When interviewed at the Grove factory, swivelling on a chair in his office and twiddling his thumbs with his feet on the desk, Patrick Head said,

"Honestly, I don't know how we haven't considered this option before. With all the talk of the team being unable to pay 90 PIQUET, we thought we could defeat the competition with one fell swoop."

When asked, Head neither confirmed nor denied if Ferrari themselves had been contacted by the Williams team. Autoscrub has learned that the deal will likely involve bailing out Ferrari for the 1991 season, while in turn granting Williams a share of any prize money earned from thereon.

"It's all on my chart here", Head told the press, pointing to a whiteboard full of post-it notes and marker pens that don't quite work anymore. "I won't rest at night until I see Ferrari-Renault under my control."
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Rob Dylan wrote:
Autoscrub wrote:90 WILLIAMS have formally announced to the world's media that they intend to buy Ferrari. When interviewed at the Grove factory, swivelling on a chair in his office and twiddling his thumbs with his feet on the desk, Patrick Head said,

"Honestly, I don't know how we haven't considered this option before. With all the talk of the team being unable to pay 90 PIQUET, we thought we could defeat the competition with one fell swoop."

When asked, Head neither confirmed nor denied if Ferrari themselves had been contacted by the Williams team. Autoscrub has learned that the deal will likely involve bailing out Ferrari for the 1991 season, while in turn granting Williams a share of any prize money earned from thereon.

"It's all on my chart here", Head told the press, pointing to a whiteboard full of post-it notes and marker pens that don't quite work anymore. "I won't rest at night until I see Ferrari-Renault under my control."


Ferrari vehemently rejects Williams' proposal. There shall be no room for additional negotiations.
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Luigier will spend 2pts on Aero and Setup, and 1pt on Reliability and Grip

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AutoScrub Magazine wrote:A new decade awaits in Formula One - will it belong to McLaren?

The 1980s were a turbulent time for the sport of Formula One. They began in the very depths of the FISA-FOCA War as turbocharged cars were beginning to take over; they ended with McLaren teammates Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost coming to on-track blows to settle the decade's final Championship in an all-time classic season. The new decade begins with almost all of the '80s biggest heroes still on the grid: Prost, Piquet, Senna and Mansell, and a swathe of bright young things all fighting to dethrone them. A fascinating decade awaits.

Image Camel McLaren Honda
#1 Alain Prost and #2 Jean Alesi

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The reigning World Drivers Champion turns out again for the reigning World Constructors Champion, but that alone does not sum up the chaos of the off-season for McLaren. After a sponsorship fiasco, Team Principal and part-owner Ron Dennis was ousted from the team after his failure to manage the tumultuous Prost-Senna driver pairing had left him on thin ice. The departing Brazilian driver has been replaced by one of the sport's brightest prospects in Jean Alesi, whose stunning 1989 saw him dominate the International F3000 Championship whilst also securing a top-10 in the F1 WDC with a part-time campaign at Tyrrell. This pairing should be the class of the field.

Image Canon Williams Renault
#5 Nigel Mansell and #6 Alessandro Nannini

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1989 runners-up Williams continue to plot their return to the top of the sport by refreshing their driver line-up for the new decade. Returning to the "Red Five" he made famous throughout the mid-to-late '80s is Britain's Nigel Mansell, regarded by some as one of the very best drivers never to be a World Champion - a statistic he'll no doubt want to rewrite. Alongside him will be former Benetton lead driver Alessandro Nannini, who replaces his fellow countryman Patrese in the number six car.

Image Scuderia Ferrari FIAT
#27 Ayrton Senna and #28 Nelson Piquet

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The grand old team from Maranello has made headlines throughout the off-season with a chain of shocking decisions. The first is a double-change in driving personnel: with Mansell lured back to Williams, Ferrari chose to throw money at the problem by signing the blockbuster pairing of Senna and Piquet. Given how Senna did last time he faced a big challenge from a teammate this is a brave move, but it is braver still considering just how much of their budget was spent on luring in the two drivers. Not only have Ferrari had to turn to selling customer engines to make ends meet, but they have also had to take on Avon tyres that are brand new to Formula One for this year. As one team insider put it:
    "Imagine being Senna or Piquet, rocking up at Maranello to find their teammate also there, last year's chassis to drive, a bunch of boxed up Ferrari engines with Zakspeed's address on them and a pile of Avon tyres that may as well have fallen off the back of a lorry."

Image Benetton Formula
#19 Thierry Boutsen and #20 Eric van de Poele
(rookie)
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Benetton were a real nearly-team in 1989, and are yet another team to fully change their driver pairing. Thierry Boutsen arrives as a refugee from Williams, and after negotiations with a succession of second drivers broke down they chose to sign the speedy Belgian rookie Eric van de Poele. One advantage for both drivers will be the horsepower behind them, as Benetton made the switch from their pre-existing supply of Ford engines to a customer Ferrari deal: a significant horsepower boost.

Image Jagermeister Team Tyrrell Ford
#3 Gerhard Berger and #4 Andrea de Cesaris

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The historic British team will have a striking new livery for 1990 with their title sponsorship from drunken mistake manufacturer Jagermeister, Their lead driver is something of an upgrade, with Gerhard Berger becoming available from Ferrari to join the team. His teammate, however, is neither Palmer (retired from F1 racing) nor Alesi (signed by McLaren) but Andrea de Cesaris who is extremely fast on his day. Tyrrell also managed to secure the bulletproof works Ford engines which suggest they might be the team who will clear up the mess left by others.

Image West Team Lotus Isuzu
#11 Heinz-Harald Frentzen
(rookie) and #12 Luis Perez-Sala
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The Lotus team also had their star driver poached with Piquet headed to Ferrari, and they rolled the dice with an all-new driver line-up. The young German rookie Heinz-Harald Frentzen has been plucked out of the thrilling German F3 series, and placed alongside two-time F1 Indoor Trophy winner Luis Perez-Sala who is formerly of Minardi. They will be a real wildcard, as they are due to be powered by the little-known Isuzu F1 engine. Who knows how this will work out for them?

Image Toshiba Arrows Grand Prix International
#9 Johnny Herbert and #10 Hitoshi Ogawa
(rookie)
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The well-heeled Arrows team seem to be in a new era of saving money. After missing out on Footwork title sponsorship, they openly said that their focus would have to change. And change it did as the once proud constructor became Lola customers for the first time. They signed up the young British talent Johnny Herbert for his first full-time F1 drive, and partnered him with the reigning Japanese F3000 Champion Hitoshi Ogawa.

Image PIAA Scuderia Italia
#21 Pierluigi Martini and #22 Gabriele Tarquini

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Despite literally having "Italia" in the name, it would be hard to say that this is the most Italian team on the grid (with the exception of when they nearly ran out of money to pay their FIA fees). All the same, they have signed two rather promising Italian drivers, and will likely be the foremost team to run customer Lamborghini power, as their customer Dallara chassis looks likely to be a good one.

Image Lamborghini Motor Racing Developments
#7 Mark Blundell
(rookie) and #8 Ukyo Katayama (rookie)
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This is another team that has had a weird off-season. The former Brabham team was bought out entirely by Lamborghini, who start their team with a completely blank slate that includes an all-rookie driver pairing. They have also sold some customer engines, and can consider themselves to have had a good season if they can at least be the leading team running their engines.

Image Pirelli Onyx Formula One Team
#36 Gianni Morbidelli
(rookie) and #37 Volker Weidler
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Onyx had a strange season in 1989, spending most of it failing to pre-qualify, but also picking up a rogue podium and fifth place in the hands of Stefan Johansson. In one of the most unjust moves of the off-season, Johansson was forced out of a seat anywhere for the same reason he hasn't stayed on at Onyx: money is tight. Instead, the British team brings in Italian Formula Three champion Gianni Morbidelli alongside 1989 Rial struggler Volker Weidler. It remains to be seen if the almost sponsorless Onyx can secure the results they need to live and fight another year.

Image SCM Minardi Team
#23 Ivan Capelli and #24 Alex Caffi

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The perennial Italian strugglers have signed a strong Italian driver pairing with former March man Ivan Capelli alongside Alex Caffi, formerly of Scuderia Italia. It is a pairing which stretches the team's budget to the maximum, but which the team will be hoping brings in the sort of results that will justify the financial gamble. They are the second team that has had to take the risk on the new Avon tyres, which speaks to how things are going financially.

Image Leyton House Racing
#15 Eric Bernard and #16 Mauricio Gugelmin

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Only the second outfit so far to retain a driver from 1989 (seriously guys), the former March team has had a complete buy-out from their long-time title sponsors to become Leyton House Racing. They have retained Mauricio Gugelmin into this new era, and he keeps his number 16 car alongside the French almost-rookie Eric Bernard. The young driver excelled last year in International F3000, as well as doing a solid job in his maiden F1 outings at Larrousse.

Image Rial Racing
#38 Christian Danner and #39 Michael Schumacher
(rookie)
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The tempestuous German outfit has retained the jilted Christian Danner after an ill-tempered 1989, and has chosen to place him alongside a German rookie who came in third in his national F3 Championship last year - though admittedly only one point away from the title in what must have been one of the all-time best title fights. The young driver was attracting attention from the Sauber-Mercedes sportscar outfit, but ultimately chose to jump straight into Formula One at an unusually young age.

Image Equipe Ligier Lancia Gitanes
#25 Bertrand Gachot and #26 Philippe Alliot

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It's all change at Ligier for the new decade, with the refreshed driver pairing of Philippe Alliot (formerly of Larrousse) and Bertrand Gachot (formerly of Belgium). There are some in the paddock who fear that this driver pairing might struggle to make it to the finish line and to that I say they don't need to worry - the Ferrari powerplant (rebadged as a Lancia) may well have failed before they manage to crash it if pre-season testing is anything to go by.

Image Elf Team AGS
#40 Erik Comas
(rookie) and #41 Alain Ferté (rookie)
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The cash-strapped French team has sought to kick-start a new era by signing up two French rookies. One is the highly rated and very fast Erik Comas, fresh off a campaign in which he was runner-up to Jean Alesi, and the other is Alain Ferté, fresh off repeatedly almost making it to Formula One. The brand new JH25 chassis was built in a hurry, apparently to save money, but it still looks like it could be unexpectedly quick in the hands of Comas.

Image Fondmetal SpA
#29 Marco Apicella
(rookie) and #30 Roland Ratzenberger (rookie)
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After a chastening season in which his eponymous team came in last of the vaguely competent runners, Gerard Larrousse sold up and left the sport. Most unexpectedly, the team was sold to former Osella sponsor Fondmetal, who immediately displayed their F1 acumen by buying their own "Fomet" customer chassis and signing an all-rookie pairing who nobody had even pegged as being particularly close to F1. Throw in a Judd powerplant for luck and this can only go well.

Image Osella Squadra Corse Lapidus
#17 Olivier Grouillard and #18 Roberto Moreno

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The Osella team was running out of money. They had a pre-agreement with Fondmetal for a buy-out, only for the Larrousse team to swoop in and take it from under their noses. The resulting lack of income has made things difficult for the Italians, and their admittedly competent driver pairing will be made to deal with the very ramshackle FA1M, which is apparently just a 1989 Ligier with a few extra bits bolted on. Yikes.

Image Lucchini Coloni Racing
#31 Nicola Larini and #32 Fabrizio Giovanardi
(rookie)
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According to the old saying that insanity is doing the same thing twice and doing different results, Coloni should be in for a bad season. They had sought to retain their entire driver pairing, only for Piercarlo Ghinzani to announce his retirement from Formula One. Instead, fellow Italian Fabrizio Giovanardi was brought in, and he is by all accounts very well funded. So well funded in fact that Coloni were finally able to build an all new (to them) car that might just occasionally make the grid. This could be a very interesting season for the tiny team.

Image Marlboro Zakspeed
#34 Karl Wendlinger
(rookie) and #35 Satoru Nakajima
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After an impressively awful 1989, Peter Zakowski decided that he could either go big or go home. He chose the former, and after somehow persuading the jilted Marlboro (former partner McLaren had chosen to switch tobacco companies to Camel) to invest enough money into the team for them to pick up customer Ferraris and to build a much better new chassis. Indeed, so well has this gone that the team were able to persuade German Formula Three champion Wendlinger and Satoru Nakajima (more money) to sign on for the team that looks likely to have completely altered its fortunes.

Image EuroBrun Subaru
#42 Oscar Larrauri and #43 Paolo Barilla

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After being 1989's worst team (apart from First Racing who chose not to even turn up), EuroBrun's 1990 looks like it could be even worse. They've agreed to become Subaru's works team, and for the task they have retained Oscar Larrauri and paired him alongside pasta scion Paolo Barilla who drove once for Minardi last year. They will not pre-qualify. It will not be close.

And, amazingly, we aren't done. There are still more teams, who make this the largest Formula One field in the history of the sport. Those new teams are:

Image First Life Racing Engines
#44 David Brabham
(rookie) and #45 Geoff Brabham (rookie)
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Of course it could always be worse. First Racing opted to withdraw from the 1989 season to focus on this one, and lord only knows why. They have signed on both Brabham brothers to drive for them, and one can only assume they didn't tell them about the engine deal with Life. The W12 wasn't ready for winter testing, so First didn't go. What a basket case.

Image Monteverdi
#46 Mike Groff
(rookie) and #47 Enrico Bertaggia
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The Middlebridge Racing group opted to enter Formula One for the 1990 season, and has done so under the banner of niche Swiss automobile manufacturer Monteverdi. They were also very explicit about the fact that they were selling their seats to the highest bidder: those bidders turned out to be Mike Groff, the reigning Indy Lights champion, and Enrico Bertaggia, the reigning Coloni anchor. This does not seem the most promising entry.

Image Footwork Yamaha
#48 Stefano Modena and #49 Aguri Suzuki

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The final, and most unlikely, team on the grid is the Footwork Yamaha outfit. Formed as the result of a row when Ron Dennis attempted to sign McLaren up to a Footwork rebrand, the hugely successful team principal was ousted from the reigning World Champions and took his sponsorship deal with him. He also took the blueprints for the MP4/5 chassis, and the respect of some of the paddock's better drivers. As a result, he has signed on both Stefano Modena and Aguri Suzuki to what will be an intriguing effort, not least in light of the team also securing a works engine deal with Yamaha. It may not be the best engine on the grid, but it's also not a Subaru.

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So, who do you see as the winner of this most crowded of F1 seasons? Is it, as most are suggesting, Alain Prost's title to lose? Or will Williams' Mansell deal bear fruit? What about Senna at Ferrari? And what on earth is happening at the back of the grid?

All these questions and more will be answered over the course of the next sixteen races.
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AutoScrub Magazine wrote:One advantage for both drivers will be the horsepower behind them, as Benetton made the switch from their pre-existing supply of Ford engines to a customer Ferrari deal: a significant horsepower boost.

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Pre-Qualifying Report

Of course, in this present era of Formula One the weekend really does start on a Friday, and with the new format of having no fewer than ten spots in Main Qualifying decided this way we can look forward to a very crowded 26 cars attempting to make the show.

This can make it very difficult for the faster teams to set representative lap times, especially with the likes of EuroBrun and First running around. Those teams monopolised the bottom four spots, as most observers had expected them to.

The other teams to lose both cars at the very first hurdle of the weekend were Coloni, Osella, the new Fondmetal outfit, and Monteverdi whose new car impressed by coming within a second of making the show despite the questionable talents of its drivers. Perhaps the biggest hitter to miss out at this early stage was Alex Caffi in his Minardi, who hit traffic and could only set the 13th quickest time, some 3.2 seconds down on Karl Wendlinger’s Zakspeed.

The nine drivers to progress alongside Wendlinger were: Stefano Modena (Footwork), Bertrand Gachot (Ligier), Satoru Nakajima (Zakspeed), Philippe Alliot (Ligier), Ivan Capelli (Minardi), Aguri Suzuki (Footwork), Mauricio Gugelmin (Leyton House), Michael Schumacher (Rial), and Alain Ferté (AGS). Some of these cars look very quick indeed, and may be able to look forward to escaping the dreaded Friday session if their cars can survive the rigors of the race.

Main Qualifying Report

For Saturday’s qualifying session we see the smaller teams go toe-to-toe with the sport’s heaviest hitters as the 30 remaining cars compete to make the 26-place starting grid.

One driver who had absolutely no problems doing so was Ferrari’s new superstar Ayrton Senna. His qualifying prowess has long been admired up and down the paddock, and he set the fastest time of the weekend with a 1:16.743. This was enough to edge out arch rival Alain Prost by just under four hundredths of a second.

Some highlights from further down the grid included an excellent showing from rookie Eric van de Poele, who managed to get his Benetton onto the third row ahead of teammate Boutsen in sixth.

The leading pre-qualifying graduates were Bertrand Gachot in 7th and Karl Wendlinger directly behind him in 9th, showing the value of the customer Ferrari engine when accelerating up the famous Interlagos hills.

The unlucky drivers to qualify below Pierluigi Martini on “Row 14” were Gugelmin of Leyton House, Hitoshi Ogawa (Arrows), Ferté and Gianni Morbidelli (Onyx). The respective teammates of both Ogawa and Morbidelli did succeed in making the grid.

Race Report

The Brazilian Grand Prix got off to a stunning start as returning Williams legend Mansell got a perfect getaway from the second row of the grid. Unusually (and definitely not because I haven’t *quite* got around to programming a glut of Lap 1 retirements into the spreadsheet), the entire grid made it through the first lap unscathed with Mansell, Schumacher and Stefano Modena the biggest winners.

Of course, the inherent slowness of the Rial did begin to shine through and Schumacher fell back through the field despite his best efforts.

It was around the end of the first stint that chaos began to rain down upon the race. Philippe Alliot’s Ligier began to slow down, and despite his best efforts to stay out of the way, Ivan Capelli just couldn’t avoid him and managed to break a suspension arm for his troubles.

A lap later, Pierluigi Martini was brought into the pits to retire his car, while ahead of him Karl Wendlinger’s Zakspeed was released from the pits straight into the same piece of track being occupied by Johnny Herbert. The two young talents both wanted to stay ahead, and aggressive defence from Herbert resulted in the Austrian rookie sustaining terminal damage to his car and retiring from the race.

Herbert too would pay the price for that move, as he sustained a slow puncture which gave up fully three laps later.

The next major incident was a scary crash for Aguri Suzuki, as he lost control under braking for the first corner and took a rather heavy impact against the right-hand barrier. His car disappeared down the old Grand Prix course, now used as an escape road, but did leave a few pieces of debris on the track. One of these was suspected to be the cause of Michael Schumacher’s race-ending puncture a few laps later.

Then, as if that wasn’t enough, hometown anti-hero Nelson Piquet had an equally inopportune accident on the exit of Descida do Lago, dumping his Ferrari into the tyre barrier. This was further bad news for Ferrari as Ayrton Senna had seemed more preoccupied with keeping Alain Prost behind than chasing down Mansell, allowing the Briton to run free at the head of the field.

Shortly after this chaos had subsided, Lamborghini received word that Mark Blundell had been disqualified from the race for receiving a push start following a spin that was missed by the TV cameras.
They made up for this disappointment by executing a flawless one-stop strategy with Ukyo Katayama: the Japanese rookie had qualified down in 15th, but was able to jump a battling gaggle of cars to get up into the points.

He was the only driver to make such a strategy work however: Gachot and Modena both suffered late punctures trying to do the same thing, while Frentzen and Weidler achieved similar while trying to run longer stints early in the race ||this definitely isn’t kayfabe for a weird set of retirement explanations||.

However, the first Grand Prix winner of the 1990s led from start to finish ahead of a pair of battling World Champions, and that man was Nigel Mansell. The moustachioed hero took his 16th Grand Prix victory in front of Ayrton Senna and a less than impressed Brazilian crowd.

Reigning World Champion Alain Prost rounded off the podium, while Benetton and Lamborghini also claimed all-important points to keep themselves safe from pre-qualifying for the foreseeable future.

Jagermeister Team Tyrrell suffered the cruel fate of getting both cars to the finish line, but in the ultimately unhelpful positions of 7th and 8th. Gabriele Tarquini was the last car to see the chequered flag in 9th, although Gachot, Alesi and Modena would ultimately be classified despite failing to finish.

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There are no changes to pre-qualifying teams, and no injuries to report
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