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nigellamansell wrote:Dan should start a team with Zoran Stefanovic with backing from the Shannon Group and Quantum.

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go_Rubens wrote:These days, BBC is the best news source that I use. I will look at CNN and MSNBC, only to get the hilarity out of the political crap they talk about, because half of it is nonsense.


So I'm not the only one who doesn't feed off of the extremist propaganda of polar opposites(no offence intended to anyone, that's just how I feel about it) that constitutes news in the US?

This makes me very happy to know there is indeed a kindred spirit out there. :D

nigellamansell wrote:Dan should start a team with Zoran Stefanovic with backing from the Shannon Group and Quantum.


As for ol' Donny Pentecost, he ought to see about getting some funding from the Quantum Group as well. Since apparently they quoted Eric Boullier a figure so monumental, he remains convinced that it will eventuate.

They'd both get along so well, because they're both very legitimate and real business entities.*

On another thought...has Pentecost also convinced himself he can escape the ravages of time too? Pretty sure he was 57 when this thread started (7 June 2012).

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tzerof1 wrote:On another thought...has Pentecost also convinced himself he can escape the ravages of time too? Pretty sure he was 57 when this thread started (7 June 2012).

*"That was all sarcasm. Yes, all of it!" If you have no idea what that's quoted from, that's from Archer.

Didn't he make a thing of how he would be the oldest F1 driver or something? So that shouldn't be an issue.
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UgncreativeUsergname wrote:
tzerof1 wrote:On another thought...has Pentecost also convinced himself he can escape the ravages of time too? Pretty sure he was 57 when this thread started (7 June 2012).


Didn't he make a thing of how he would be the oldest F1 driver or something? So that shouldn't be an issue.



I was on his "website" yesterday and he mentioned he was 57, blah, blah, blah. But that had me wondering cos' I thought that he had been 57 when this thread started, but having gone back through this thread, he was indeed mentioned as 56 near when this thread was started, that's all that part of my previous statement was, wonder. So just disregard that part of my post.
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dr-baker wrote:
nigellamansell wrote:Dan should start a team with Zoran Stefanovic with backing from the Shannon Group and Quantum.

Don't forget Qadbak and MasterCard!

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I just re-read this whole thread so I could laugh at our favourite nutcase again. And I've had an idea, which could possibly be funded by someone who's just won the EuroMillions jackpot and feels like a spot of philanthropy.

Jeremy Clarkson wrote:This is the new Lotus T125. And straight away, an anorak would say *nerdy adenoidal voice* "ooh! That's not a Formula 1 car!" *end nerd voice* And that's right. It isn't. But it does come with a Cosworth V8, a sequential gearbox, full downforce, a complicated steering wheel, a hand-operated clutch, and all the other F1 trimmings as well. For instance, included in the price is Geoff, who is a fitness instructor, Alfonso, who will cook for you and your friends, and a team of mechanics who will accompany you any racetrack... IN THE WORLD!. You also get a truck, which is fitted with all the things you need, including... a Jean Alesi.

The T125 is not a Formula 1 car because it isn't built to the very tight restrictions that the rules specify, and won't be disqualified if it isn't. The nose is longer, and wider, as is the cockpit, because all those who are going to be crazy-rich enough to afford it will have suffered the onset of middle-aged spread, which Jezza certainly has. But he's also very tall - 6'5", much more than a typical racing driver; even so, the car has been designed so that only the utterly gigantic won't be able to fit in it. Justin Wilson could drive it with ease; so could Alan Jones. According to the Jean Alesi that comes with the package, it has more downforce than F1 cars are allowed as well; the engine is detuned to 640 hp and limited to 10,500 rpm, whereas the Cosworth CA2010 as fitted to Williams and the CRT cars in 2010 was rated at 750 hp and locked to 18,000 rpm. Even so, because of that extra downforce, Alesi says the car is still faster than a full-blown F1 car of the 1990s. And let's face it, when there are "F1 Racing Experience" companies out there running actual F1 cars from the 1990s, even if they're backmarkers such as a Forti FG01, or an updated AGS JH24 that's still used for the same purpose by the shed-based organisation from Gonfaron, this is more than fast enough for anyone lucky enough to experience it.

For all that's said about him, some of it deserved, some most definitely not, Jeremy Clarkson can drive, and can drive fast. Witness that Britcar race in the BMW 330d. But there's racing in a stock diesel saloon, there's racing in an old Mitsubishi Starion round a grass track, and then, there's this...

Jeremy Clarkson wrote:I've driven a car that's got this much power before, and I've driven a car on slicks before, and I've driven a car that weighs as little as this before, but I've never driven a car that has all those things...
(he switches to his own car, an AMG Mercedes CLK63, to find out what went wrong on his first lap)
My mind tells me that it's OK to turn into the Follow Through, which is coming up now, at 90 mph. The thing is, though, in the Lotus, I have to tell my mind it's OK to go through that corner at 160 mph. And what's more, if I try to do it in the Lotus at 90, there won't be enough air going over the wings, so there won't be much downforce, so the tyres will be cold, so there won't be much grip. If I do it at the speed my mind says is safe, I will crash and I will be killed. To stay alive, I have to go faster than my mind thinks is possible.

It was much the same with the braking; brake at the same point in the Lotus as in the Merc, and the Lotus will come to a complete stop before it hits what would be its own braking point.

The Stig - the current one - set a time round the short circuit of 36.2 seconds in an Ariel Atom V8, a car capable of lapping the full circuit (in ex-Stig Ben Collins' hands) in 1'15.1. Jeremy eventually managed to beat that, lapping the same short circuit in the T125 in 35.7 seconds; the T125 was (a week later, when it wasn't raining) shown to be capable of 1'03.8, again driven by the current Stig. The unrestricted, 19,000 rpm, 3.0-litre V10 powered Renault R24 from the 2004 season, in the hands of a "guest Stig" who we now know to be Heikki Kovalainen (who was then Renault's test driver back in the days when they were allowed), lapped the circuit in 59.0 seconds.

So, some number crunching. The Atom lapped the full circuit in 117.71% of the time of the T125. So, that's a DNQ-by-a-chasm pace compared to the almost-F1 machine, but the Atom is a road legal car and has regulations to comply with. The Clarkson-versus-Stig lap round the short circuit saw The Stig record a time that was 101.40% of Jezza's. Or, alternatively, Jezza lapped in the T125 in 98.62% of The Stig's time in the Atom. From this, I can extrapolate a lap time for Jezza round the full circuit in the T125 of 1'14.1 - 116.09% of The Stig's time in the T125. Thus is shown the gulf between a professional racing driver and a more-than-middle-aged TV presenter, who had had to put away all this tendencies to arse around in a way that makes the other two refer to him as "the orang-utan" and instead concentrate fully on the job in hand, and all this just so he didn't completely disgrace himself.

Going back to the original sentence of this post, there was even talk after the T125 segment had ended that the £650,000 cost of the car, and all that comes with it, could be easily met by the coming-up-to-retirement-age couple who had just won a EuroMillions jackpot that would put them as a single entity on the Sunday Times Rich List.

So, with all this in mind, had I won that jackpot instead, I could buy my own Lotus T125. I could have it shipped to America. And I could personally challenge Don Pentecost to prove his worth. If he is the real deal that he says he is, he should be able to set a lap time faster than Jean Alesi. After all, he's not a champion, is he? He only won one race and that was with some bunch of pinko Euro-commies who no TRUE AMERICAN would give the time of day to. Neither, I suspect, would he care to race at Sears Point, which is in goddamn hippy Librulfornia, but then, there's not a lot of point racing on a TRUE AMERICAN oval if you're trying to succeed in F1, is there? (NASCAR, incidentally, has been held at Sears Point, and there's no oval there at all.) So, Don, given the chance of machinery that's as close to F1 as it's possible for Joe Public (or at least Joe Public with a lot of money but still not F1 amounts of it) to get, can you do it? Or even, can you beat the benchmark set by a man who is (or was at the time) 51 years old and a bit flabby, but who has (or had at the time) 22 years' worth of experience of POWER! and DRIVING FAST! in road cars, and doing so with TV cameras rolling that will reach an audience of millions?

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Dinizintheoven, I reckon another option would be to see how he would do at the Race of Champions - the other drivers are known quantities, it is a high pressure environment as it has knockout stages, adaptability would need to be demonstrated as various different cars are used.
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He seems to have run out of ideas, he is just rehashing his various old stuff.
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Thread Resurrection Alert!!!

Old Don seems to have switched sides and is now marketing his "invention" to Middle Eastern Oil barons. "Buy it and destroy it to stay in business." That sort of thing. And for only $28,000,000,000 (after taxes). Tsst tsst Don, hardly 'Murican attitudes that.

The F1 team seems to be just another afterthought now, mentioned only in passing. His new websites tho are a h00t.


http://saudi-arabia-buy-this-invention.blogspot.com/


http://kuwait-buy-clean-energy-invention.blogspot.com/


http://abudhabi-oil-will-be-useless.blogspot.com/


http://dubai-oil.blogspot.com/


http://dubai-oil-will-be-useless.blogspot.com/


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Wallio wrote: The F1 team seems to be just another afterthought now, mentioned only in passing.

Wonder if he's bitter that another American has got an F1 entry, AND he hasn't been offered a drive?
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Wallio wrote: The F1 team seems to be just another afterthought now, mentioned only in passing.

Wonder if he's bitter that another American has got an F1 entry, AND he hasn't been offered a drive?

Probably :P
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I had another look at the Force 1 USA website the other day, just to see what's going on. It almost looks like the posts are auto-generated now.

Can't see Don working with the Arabs in any capacity, particularly not the Saudis. Or the Russians, either - he's set up a similar VKontakte page, but if he has any input into it himself the chances are it'll be full of "Y'ALL ARE GODDAMN COMMUNIST COMMIES Y'HEAR ME? U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!"
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He's still making posts to that website?

He must be getting a good amount of donations, or he's finding amusement from posting this. I doubt he used automated messages, why would anyone want to do that?

Also, the price is 28 Billion now. I remember it being 100 billion at one point. Never thought he would lower the price :lol:
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Aerospeed wrote:He's still making posts to that website?

He must be getting a good amount of donations, or he's finding amusement from posting this. I doubt he used automated messages, why would anyone want to do that?

Also, the price is 28 Billion now. I remember it being 100 billion at one point. Never thought he would lower the price :lol:


He is just completey stupid on the idea, I could do better then his plan.
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I'll offer him $100 million:

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$100 billion may be on offer if he plays his cards right:

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Maybe I might even offer him $100 trillion...:

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But maybe I would think twice if he asked for a similar amount in any other currency!
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James Allen, on his favourite F1 engine of all time:
"...the Life W12, I can't describe the noise to you, but imagine filling your dustbin with nuts and bolts, and then throwing it down the stairs, it was something akin to that!"
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I found something really weird when reading one of Pentecost's blogs. Some of his blog posts are now listed as having been posted by Bill Philipps. I don't know if this is actually Don's pseudonym or a friend of his that is also involved with the "team" (perhaps his team mate). Philipps' Google+ profile has all the old Pentecost stuff on it.

I guess it's not this guy, though (although you never know):
http://www.billphilipps.com/ :lol:
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Meatwad wrote:I found something really weird when reading one of Pentecost's blogs. Some of his blog posts are now listed as having been posted by Bill Philipps. I don't know if this is actually Don's pseudonym or a friend of his that is also involved with the "team" (perhaps his team mate). Philipps' Google+ profile has all the old Pentecost stuff on it.

I guess it's not this guy, though (although you never know):
http://www.billphilipps.com/ :lol:

I really wanted that to be one of the Phelps family members rather than a Mr Phillips. There again, the Phelpses hate America, unlike Don Pentecost...
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Dear Lord this site is getting desperate. "Rent Blog Space for only $50!" Because blogs are so expensive this bozo has 50. And all the bikini galleries are really classy. We need to stop going to his site, the counter has a total of 47000+ hits on it. Clearly 20000 or so are him, but the rest are probably us. Damn us for making him look good!
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Wallio wrote:Dear Lord this site is getting desperate. "Rent Blog Space for only $50!" Because blogs are so expensive this bozo has 50. And all the bikini galleries are really classy. We need to stop going to his site, the counter has a total of 47000+ hits on it. Clearly 20000 or so are him, but the rest are probably us. Damn us for making him look good!

Wait, what? There are bikini galleries?! :shock:
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Oh dear, I forgot my audience. Yes there are three or four links to bikini galleries, as well as a "car show wet t-shirt contest). Such things are quite common over here at Import drag races and drift events. Ricers girlfriends are expected to be exhibitionists. It's part of the "tuner lifestyle". Now what these links actually possess I have no idea. Being at work, the last thing I need on my history is that, or worse get a virus. But considering all the "dirty workout" youtube vids he has embedded, I'm sure he got his "python arms" fro wanking all day.
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What I don't get, is why Pentecost would want to run in a series that is most likely run (in his opinion) by GOD DAMN EUROPEAN COMMIES. Why wouldn't he race in a TRUE MERICAN series like NASCAR?

Also, his F1 team website is down :P
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TheFlyingCaterham wrote:What I don't get, is why Pentecost would want to run in a series that is most likely run (in his opinion) by GOD DAMN EUROPEAN COMMIES. Why wouldn't he race in a TRUE MERICAN series like NASCAR?

Also, his F1 team website is down :P

I wonder if anybode else than this forum has actually ever even heared of his team? I don't want to insinuate anything, but he (or the person playing him) did take this 'rivalry' with us very serious. :P
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TheFlyingCaterham wrote:What I don't get, is why Pentecost would want to run in a series that is most likely run (in his opinion) by GOD DAMN EUROPEAN COMMIES. Why wouldn't he race in a TRUE MERICAN series like NASCAR?

Also, his F1 team website is down :P

I thought the point was to show that 'Murica>Europe.
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UgncreativeUsergname wrote:
TheFlyingCaterham wrote:What I don't get, is why Pentecost would want to run in a series that is most likely run (in his opinion) by GOD DAMN EUROPEAN COMMIES. Why wouldn't he race in a TRUE MERICAN series like NASCAR?

Also, his F1 team website is down :P

I thought the point was to show that 'Murica>Europe.

Well, Probably more like MURICA>europe :P
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I know this thread hasn't been posted in for a while (forgive me I remembered my logins after god knows how long) but had to see his Twitter now and he's changed things around! look at this lol https://twitter.com/force1usa !!
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In an alternative universe, Force India managed to change their name to Force 1 India and are competing against Force 1 USA. And to avoid confusion between the two teams, Bernie wanted to force one out...

Wonder if Mr Pentecost is a Trump supporter? Considering that he believes in climate change, or at least is exploiting it for the ALMIGHTY AMERICAN DOLLAR, I suspect not?
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Anyone remember that Scorpion Racing team that tried to buy up the remnants of HRT?
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Price has gone up again, to $29.5 billion. Well inflation is on the rise I suppose.....
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When randomly surfing the world wide interwebz recently, I found a book on Amazon called, "Put 'Em Down, Take 'Em Out, Knife Fighting Techniques From Folsom Prison" written by some guy called Don Pentecost. Apparently written back in 1988 and now revised. Wonder if it's the same guy as in this thread?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/162 ... bl_vppi_i0
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