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Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:Tomas Scheckter's helmet looks like Kenny Brack's. Or is it supposed to be the other way around?


It looks like Kenny Brack's, but this was before Brack's big smash at Texas.
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Faustus wrote:
midgrid wrote:Is that an ex-Marco Apicella F3000 car? If so, it's the original livery, but with the Williams-specific sponsors added later on.


It can't be. That's a Reynard 93D or at worst a 92D with the 93D aero kit (quite common in 93 because a lot of teams didn't like the revised suspension on the 93D) and by then Apicella was driving a Dome in the Formula Nippon championship.


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Posted because of the Infinti engine. :D


The shade of blue makes it look more like a late 90s Sauber.
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wow i didn't notice that.
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It isn't sourced from a F1 car, but saw it in GTPlanet:

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Does this livery remind you of anything? ;) Found this when looking for IMSA GTO stuff.

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FMecha wrote:Does this livery remind you of anything? ;) Found this when looking for IMSA GTO stuff.

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All it needs is a Red 5 to be complete. Although I was tempted to link Beretta with Larrousse somehow, but couldn't think of anything relevantly witty. Or even irrelevantly witty...
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Someone mentioned Heidfeld earlier. It wasn't just F3000 he ran the McLaren livery. He ran this while racing for Team BSR in German F3 in '97. An intersting footnote, his team-mate that season was Tomas Enge.

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In the same series the same year was a trio of Benetton cars. I can't find a still image, but you can watch all three Benetton Junior Team cars buzzing around the Norisring here.
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This F3000 car? Very similar to McLaren's West livery
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AxelP800 wrote:Image

This F3000 car? Very similar to McLaren's West livery

McLaren had an F3000 team at the time, I do believe, of whom Nick Heidfeld was a protégé, which meant it was hard for Nick when Kimi got selected to go from Sauber to McLaren in F1.
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The lime green Minardi of Cart:

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The 60s Lotus KV:

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dr-baker wrote:McLaren had an F3000 team at the time, I do believe, of whom Nick Heidfeld was a protégé, which meant it was hard for Nick when Kimi got selected to go from Sauber to McLaren in F1.


Yes, they did.

They were called West Competition; in 98 they had a Heidfeld/Minassian (Leinders subbing for the latter in the final race) lineup, followed by a Heidfeld/Haberfeld duo in 99 - this is when Nick won the title. In 2000, a new sponsor came on board, and that is when this photo was taken - check the sidepods of the car, it says mysap.com.
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Again, not F1, but rather WRC:

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The base livery of Xsara F2/WRC car on a Lancer Evo. You see that right. (That looks decent actually) :geek:
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Dj_bereta wrote:The lime green Minardi of Cart:

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I now need to find out which car is facing the wrong way. It's probably the American Minardi though :P
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Cynon wrote:Then there was this car, which reject master Dave Kudrave drove and promptly binned in New Hampshire in 1992. Antonio Ferrari's Euromotorsport fielded the entry;

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Not entirely sure about this one, but here is Christian Danner at the 1995 IndyCar Grand Prix of Miami.
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that's 2012, not 2013. if lotus-judd engines had lasted that long, it was because they forgot to pull them for being to slow.
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nome66 wrote:that's 2012, not 2013. if lotus-judd engines had lasted that long, it was because they forgot to pull them for being to slow.
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If we are counting helmets, here's Irvine using that same design at Macau in '89:
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Two Iconic things together: Audi Quattro + Williams classic mid 90s Rothmans livery.

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Spyker run an Orange-sponsored car at Le Mans in 2003, looking very similar to the Orange Arrows. It was rejectful at the 24 Hours that year, but it looked great in my opinion.
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Dj_bereta wrote:Two Iconic things together: Audi Quattro + Williams classic mid 90s Rothmans livery.

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You do know that Rothmans were running that livery in rallying before they joined Williams, right? There was a Prodrive-built Porsche 911 SC that carried it and saw some success in regional rallies in the hands of Henri Toivonen back in 1984.
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Jordan were running in their iconic yellow in F3000, but at the time the livery would have been associated with another team already in F1.
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Captain Hammer wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:Two Iconic things together: Audi Quattro + Williams classic mid 90s Rothmans livery.

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You do know that Rothmans were running that livery in rallying before they joined Williams, right? There was a Prodrive-built Porsche 911 SC that carried it and saw some success in regional rallies in the hands of Henri Toivonen back in 1984.


Yes, I know, but when i look the Rothmans livery, Williams is the first thing which comes to my mind. :)
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Dj_bereta wrote:
Captain Hammer wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:Two Iconic things together: Audi Quattro + Williams classic mid 90s Rothmans livery.

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You do know that Rothmans were running that livery in rallying before they joined Williams, right? There was a Prodrive-built Porsche 911 SC that carried it and saw some success in regional rallies in the hands of Henri Toivonen back in 1984.

Yes, I know, but when i look the Rothmans livery, Williams is the first thing which comes to my mind. :)

It's like when I think of previous Martini liveries, I think of the 1990s WRC Ford Focuses rather than the earlier F1 Brabhams.
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Captain Hammer wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:Two Iconic things together: Audi Quattro + Williams classic mid 90s Rothmans livery.

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You do know that Rothmans were running that livery in rallying before they joined Williams, right? There was a Prodrive-built Porsche 911 SC that carried it and saw some success in regional rallies in the hands of Henri Toivonen back in 1984.


That Porsche was in Dakar too. Or was it a 911? :? Also, don't forget the Honda NSR if you mention Rothmans:
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dr-baker wrote:It's like when I think of previous Martini liveries, I think of the 1990s WRC Ford Focuses rather than the earlier F1 Brabhams.


Martini livery? You should have thought of Lancia Delta (or 037 Rally), bub.
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dr-baker wrote:It's like when I think of previous Martini liveries, I think of the 1990s WRC Ford Focuses rather than the earlier F1 Brabhams.


Martini livery? You should have thought of Lancia Delta (or 037 Rally), bub.
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You're right. But the Focuses competed when I had a contemporary interest in the WRC, whereas the Lancias and Brabhams were "before my time"...
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Dj_bereta wrote:Two Iconic things together: Audi Quattro + Williams classic mid 90s Rothmans livery.

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I think the Le Mans Rothmans Porsche cars are worth mentioning.
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Found this in the book I have. By the looks of it, Mika Häkkinen raced in French F3 back in 1996.

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Just found this one! Don't know what driver it is though.

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This wrote:Just found this one! Don't know what driver it is though.

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That car is just so unbelievably amazing.
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This wrote:Just found this one! Don't know what driver it is though.

https://www.facebook.com/AutoClubExcels ... =1&theater

That car is just so unbelievably amazing.

It must be a formula 3 car, but i don't know which championship and what driver. It's probably a Belgian driver and most certainly 1989. Here a Formula Ford car with the same livery:
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https://twitter.com/golic_2004/status/5 ... 2014828544 Which one of these liveries is faster? The F1 car or the Indy 500 one?
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golic_2004 wrote:https://twitter.com/golic_2004/status/599990262014828544 Which one of these liveries is faster? The F1 car or the Indy 500 one?


I like how both cars have number-orientated sponsors that you could confuse for being the actual car's racing number, as well as their livery similarities.
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Supernova ran in Renault colours in F3000 in 2002 then switched to Jordan colours for 2003 and 2004.
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