Olivier Grouillard (Mansell's Nemesis)

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Have recently watched a review of the 1993 Indycar Season on YouTube. I know Olivier Grouillard followed Nigel Mansell out of F1 and into Indycar for the 1993 Season and their respective fortunes remained the same, Mansell won the title, Grouillard scored just a few points.

It also caused me to remember that on the old F1 Rejects site, Grouillard's profile described him as "Mansell's Nemesis", now I wonder why that was?
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Grouillard was a notorious backmarker for letting no-one through. Famously on modena at Monaco, and I'm going to take a punt that he held up Mansell at some very inopportune moment in the early 90s. Just a guess though.
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Rob Dylan wrote: 12 Dec 2022, 21:19 Grouillard was a notorious backmarker for letting no-one through. Famously on modena at Monaco, and I'm going to take a punt that he held up Mansell at some very inopportune moment in the early 90s. Just a guess though.
Well, in addition to being "Mansell's Nemesis", the old F1 Rejects site also referred to Grouillard as "F1's enfant terrible".
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Grouillard nearly took Mansell out in the closing stages at Imola 1992 but Mansell had worse clashes IMO with Phillipe Alliot (Portugal 1990) and De Cesaris (Imola 1990).
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James1978 wrote: 13 Dec 2022, 20:17 Grouillard nearly took Mansell out in the closing stages at Imola 1992 but Mansell had worse clashes IMO with Phillipe Alliot (Portugal 1990) and De Cesaris (Imola 1990).
Well Grouillard and De Cesaris weren't described as one of the most reviled driver line-ups of all-time on the old F1 Rejects site for nothing. I believe Alliot was also described unfavourably regarding his manners while being lapped in the old site's Hall of Shame section.
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Another driver guilty from my own experience of watching was Emanuele Pirro. He was the kind of driver who would only appear on the broadcast when he was holding up frontrunners and ruining their races for no reason.
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Rob Dylan wrote: 17 Dec 2022, 11:34 Another driver guilty from my own experience of watching was Emanuele Pirro. He was the kind of driver who would only appear on the broadcast when he was holding up frontrunners and ruining their races for no reason.
Yes, that's true.
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Har1MAS1415 wrote: 20 Dec 2022, 13:42
Rob Dylan wrote: 17 Dec 2022, 11:34 Another driver guilty from my own experience of watching was Emanuele Pirro. He was the kind of driver who would only appear on the broadcast when he was holding up frontrunners and ruining their races for no reason.
Yes, that's true.
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Rob Dylan wrote: 17 Dec 2022, 11:34 Another driver guilty from my own experience of watching was Emanuele Pirro. He was the kind of driver who would only appear on the broadcast when he was holding up frontrunners and ruining their races for no reason.
Apart from that time when he decided to liven up the German GP by staging a polystyrene block demolition derby.
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It is true that the only thing I remember about Pirro apart from hitting the big polystrene block are two mega-blocking incidents when being lapped; first on Boutsen when he was leading the 1989 Australian GP so Nannini in the other Benetton could catch up (I always pictured Irvine doing this if he could end up a lap behind Schumacher at Ferrari!), and on Modena while he was running 2nd at Monaco 1991 (though there was no team motive in that one).
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Barbazza wrote: 20 Dec 2022, 20:59
Rob Dylan wrote: 17 Dec 2022, 11:34 Another driver guilty from my own experience of watching was Emanuele Pirro. He was the kind of driver who would only appear on the broadcast when he was holding up frontrunners and ruining their races for no reason.
Apart from that time when he decided to liven up the German GP by staging a polystyrene block demolition derby.
Yes!, F1 arbitrarily decides to bring back super sparking skid blocks to add drama, so surely they should increase the number of polystyrene blocks placed in run off areas for the same purpose. Only Monza really makes an effort to do this.
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Barbazza wrote: 20 Dec 2022, 20:59
Rob Dylan wrote: 17 Dec 2022, 11:34 Another driver guilty from my own experience of watching was Emanuele Pirro. He was the kind of driver who would only appear on the broadcast when he was holding up frontrunners and ruining their races for no reason.
Apart from that time when he decided to liven up the German GP by staging a polystyrene block demolition derby.
Now that was spectacular!
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