Scrub-Era F1: 1991 - Survival of the Richest

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As Minardi is looking increasingly unable to pay the entry fee and thus set to leave the sport, Scuderia Italia offers to keep the Faenza outfit's legacy alive by buying the rights to the Minardi name for a symbolic price of £1.

If this deal is agreed upon, our team shall henceforth be known as West Scuderia Italia Minardi for the remainder of the 1991 season.
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How much would my situation change if I do the following?

* Downgrade to one car, releasing Larini and return the money?
* Swap to Judd engines

I'm open to loan money from another team and pay 120% at the conclusion of the season.
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Meanwhile at Williams HQ

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Murray Walker at the 1997 Austrian Grand Prix wrote:The other [Stewart] driver, who nobody's been paying attention to, because he's disappointing, is Jan Magnussen.
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Eddie Jordan will build a second EJ01 ready to ship to Interlagos (at least).
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Williams and Renault have always been a class act. The Anglo-French co-operation has been an inspiration the world over. Now that Williams, in its greatest time of need, is about to start the season with a full roster of some of the most talented drivers of their generation, we are calling on our brilliant engine supplier, with the best machine on the grid around them, to supply us with a brotherly discount (or deferred payment): égalité, fraternité, comté, mon frère.

We are therefore (behind the scenes so that nobody knows about this of course) requesting a discount or deferred payment from Renault - the exact amount of money required to get us to the exact threshold of taking part in the 1991 season. As a method of shocking the world, we will agree (if Renault does) to run a whole French Tricolore livery scheme that will be in flourescent colours (the red will still be occupied by Marlboro). We will agree with our drivers (after telling them of our financial distress) to have them run the season with French racing licences, while Williams will also agree to enter the 1991 season as a French entry.

If Renault do not agree to this, we will execute "Plan B", by demoting Schumacher down to third and reserve driver, and promoting Jean-Marc Gounon in his place, begging Renault yet again to give us a discount.

If this goes through, I promise* to post only in French for the rest of the season.


EDIT: oh yeah, buy new spec of same chassis (C version now) after the FIA fee is paid, plus cheapest tyres possible.
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Scrub-Era F1: 1991 - RNG-dux

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So, we have bids in from the remaining teams and thus it is time for the last bit of pre-season RNG!

First of all, we come to a post from Epson Team Lotus Isuzu detailing a slightly panicked decision to release Enrico Bertaggia rather than building a second chassis. DigitDan7 has since DMed me to say that he doesn't want to do that. It doesn't look like he's put it up on the forum yet, but it's very much the sensible option to build the second chassis instead, seeing as they can afford it.

The build cost of a second chassis will be somewhere between 200k and 220k, depending how many of the updated parts the engineers can put together without having to build the originals first. And at £217,000, it is a little bit of an expensive build, but two Lotuses will line up in Interlagos.

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Next we come to Escuderia Pemex. They have downsized to only one car, the Lola-Ford. It seems the Pemex-Judd MX01 will be consigned to demonstration runs and paperweight duties.

Masahiko Kageyama returns to Japan and does not pass Go. He still interested in coming to F1, but not with Pemex.

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Next, Footwork Project Four. They have renewed their tyre supply with Pirelli, and they have also signed up for Ferrari customer engines at the price of £450,000.

When it comes to their chassis, their plan is to retool the FP4/5B to do another year's service:
  • Grip: 806
  • Handling 72%
  • Drag: 50%
  • Overweight: 35kg
  • Reliability: 87%
Nelson Piquet is intrigued, and Ron Dennis' team has built the most reliable chassis on the grid.

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And now to the one we've all been waiting for: Marlboro Williams Renault.

It appears that Frank Williams has been on the phone to Renault, explaining Williams' situation in exhaustive detail. He begins by reassuring them that Williams will be able to run Renault power come what may, and that this is because Renault engines are the best in F1. He talks about the best drivers in F1 having been part of the Williams roster. He talks about égalité, fraternité and comté. He talks about how Renault and Williams are like brothers. They're pretty sure that he also started talking about casinos and something called an "Indoor Trophy" but by that point they'd kinda zoned out.

With a fatigued collective sigh, the Renault team prompt Sir Frank to get down to business. He explains that due to entirely unforeseen circumstances*, the budget is a few hundred grand short of where he'd like it to be.

If Renault would be so kind as to accept a reduced or deferred payment for their engines, then Williams would be able to run the "all-star line-up" of Nigel Mansell and Michael Schumacher for 1991. If not, Michael Schumacher would have to be pied off and replaced with Jean-Marc Gounon.

What does Renault decide?

1-2 - They are prepared to offer a £270,000 discount on their engine payments
3-5 - They are prepared to offer only a £230,000 engine discount
6-25 - They are prepared to offer a £270,000 deferred payment for Williams to cough up later in the season; a similar arrangement to last year
26-50 - They are prepared to offer a £230,000 deferred payment for Williams to cough up later in the season
51-100 - "Mais, non."

13 - Thanks to this generosity, Williams are able to update their chassis and buy tyres before paying FIA fees.

(at this point the Discord reacted uniformly to decry the death of Sport)

The chassis is a B-spec of the FW13B - it shall be called the FW13C, despite brief consideration of "FW13BB".
  • Grip: 858
  • Handling: 51%
  • Drag: 55%
  • Overweight: 19kg
  • Reliability: 49%
It's a grippy, but flawed chassis for Williams this year.

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Finally, Minardi Team Pirelli. It's bad news I'm afraid; the Italian team has not managed to secure the funding it needed to compete in the 1991 Formula One season ahead of the deadline for FIA fees.

I would personally like to thank @Bleu for his efforts with Minardi in this series, and I would like to add him to the waiting list for any future teams that become available in the coming seasons. The final question for him as Minardi manager is whether he would consent to West Scuderia Italia buying the rights to use the Minardi name in future.

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Apart from Minardi, all remaining teams have now paid their FIA entry fees for this season's World Championship.
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A farewell to Minardi

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AutoScrub Magazine wrote: Minardi Team withdraws from Formula One

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The Italian team says that it "couldn't keep up with rising costs and dwindling prize money"

Minardi Team Pirelli, which had been linked with drivers Alex Caffi and Nicola Larini for the 1991 Formula One season, has today announced that it will not be able to make the grid for the new season. "It is very disappointing to announce that my team will not compete in Formula One this year",
explained eponymous team owner Giancarlo Minardi, "but we couldn't keep up with the rising costs and dwindling prize money in Formula One at the moment."


Certainly, there are worrying signs up and down the paddock. Five teams (Venturi, Coloni, AGS, Pemex and Monteverdi) will be running as single-car outfits this season, while rumours have swirled around the sustainability of the Williams team for basically the entire off-season, although they have managed to remain on the entry list for the coming season.

The Minardi Team first entered Formula One in 1985, with rookie driver Pierluigi Martini and a supply of Motori Moderni V6 turbo engines. This relationship was challenging, as the Motori Moderni's unreliability contributed to Minardi Team finishing only seven races in three years. The switch back to naturally aspirated Ford engines brought an upturn in fortunes; Pierluigi Martini claimed the team's first point at the 1988 Detroit Grand Prix, and things would improve again for 1989: six points, five of which were from Martini and one from Luis Perez-Sala in a double-points result at Silverstone.

1990 proved to be more challenging: an increased grid and expanded prequalifying system proved to be a real challenge for drivers Ivan Capelli and Alex Caffi. Despite several near misses from both drivers, the team failed to record a point all season and ended up failing to qualify for most races. Ultimately, these small margins were enough to put Minardi into financial trouble that they couldn't get out of.
Again, I would like to thank Bleu for his efforts with Minardi. I think ultimately so many shenanigans happened on the Discord server that it was always going to be difficult for Minardi to keep up. And you will not be the last team to run out of money; not even close!
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Re: Scrub-Era F1: 1991 - Survival of the Richest

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Now that entry fees have been paid to the FIA, any outstanding loans that are due for repayment will be handled. This will cause some teams to go into negative money, but please note that your FIA fees will have been paid.
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1991 AutoScrub Season Preview

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AutoScrub wrote:Formula One 1991: Can Prost make it five?

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McLaren's Alain Prost enters the season as a four-time and twice-defending World Drivers Champion.

As we look forward to the 1991 Formula One season, the obvious question is: "Can Alain Prost do it again?" The Frenchman's Championship title last year put him on four, second all-time behind only Juan Manuel Fangio, and now clear on his own ahead of Brabham, Stewart, Lauda and Nelson Piquet (more on him later). McLaren has been the dominant team in F1 for almost a decade now, and it must surely be hard to look past them as favourites again for yet another year. Just as relevant will be the question of whether any new contenders can emerge to challenge the well-oiled McLaren team.

Image Camel McLaren Honda
1. Image Alain Prost and 2. Image Jean Alesi

The McLaren team has remained entirely unchanged since their triumphant 1990 season, with Alain Prost as the incumbent World Champion and Jean Alesi as his protege. With 46 Grand Prix wins to his name now, it looks like the question of Prost becoming the first driver ever to pass 50 is one of "when" and not "if". In contrast, Alesi is just starting out on his journey and managed his first two Grand Prix wins at Imola and Silverstone last year, capitalising when neither Prost nor Mansell finished the race. The rumours coming out of the McLaren camp are simply full of confidence, which will be concerning for their rivals.

Image Jagermeister Team Tyrrell
3. Image Gerhard Berger and 4. Image Mika Hakkinen

The British team is still figuring out how to return to winning ways for the first time since 1983 (assuming we don't count the Indoor Trophy event just before Christmas), but the team's recovery since the nadir of 1988 and the fallout of 1984 should absolutely be applauded. The 31-year-old Gerhard Berger still looks to be on top of his game, while young Finn Mika Hakkinen is one of the brightest prospects anywhere in the racing world. The works Ford engines may be a little down on power compared to the likes of Renault and Ferrari, but it is still a top-quality engine and more than good enough for Tyrrell to pull out big results on slower-speed tracks.

Image Marlboro Williams Renault
5. Image Nigel Mansell and 6. Image Michael Schumacher

It will have been impossible not to notice that Williams' off-season was exceedingly chaotic. Despite that, they've managed to put together what looks likely to be a very competitive organisation: Michael Schumacher joins the team in place of the still-injured Alessandro Nannini, after showing everyone exactly what he was about with a race win on his Williams debut at Suzuka last year. Mansell meanwhile has long been F1's ultimate nearly-man: he has thrice been WDC runner-up as a Williams driver, and will be sorely hoping that the standard-setting Renault power can direct him one better this season.

Image Lamborghini Motor Racing Developments
7. Image Mark Blundell and 8. Image Ukyo Katayama

Since the Italian car manufacturer bought out what had once been the Brabham Formula One Team, Lamborghini has been doing quietly very well. Most observers agree that they have an excellent new chassis for 1991, while they have proven to be a popular customer engine supplier. The only real question will be whether their drivers can maximise any opportunities that come their way: both are still very inexperienced, and we have no real way of knowing how they stack up against the rest of the grid.

Image Braun Arrows Grand Prix International (PreQ)
9. Image Johnny Herbert and 10. Image Laurent Aiello

Arrows have spent two years trying to develop the best car possible, even spending 1990 using customer Lola chassis rather than have their engineers be distracted. So many teams thought that Arrows would be a team to beat this year, but early signs are that it hasn't worked out at all. Conservative design choices and some undoubted misfortune have combined to put the British team - who start the year in prequalifying - in a very awkward position indeed. They will be hoping that Johnny Herbert can take them to the promised land.

Image Epson Team Lotus Isuzu (PreQ)
11. Image Heinz-Harald Frentzen and 12. Image Enrico Bertaggia

The unlikely Lotus-Isuzu partnership started with huge promise in 1990, before a catastrophic second half of the season saw them fail to record a single finish in the final six rounds, when just one more point would have been enough for them to start the season safely out of prequalifying for a while. Their driver pairing also confounds: Heinz-Harald Frentzen is kept on from last season, but Allan McNish must be absolutely gutted to be left on the sidelines. Furthermore, he's not been benched for a rising star like Bernd Schneider or Martin Donnelly, but for the sluggish chicane himself, Enrico Bertaggia. It remains to be seen whether he will be allowed to complete the season.

Image Leyton House Racing (PreQ)
15. Image Eric Bernard and 16. Image Hitoshi Ogawa

The Leyton House Racing team, the spiritual and literal successor of March Engineering, had a very quiet 1990 season. Despite often running strongly, including a brace of 7th and a further brace of 8th places, they couldn't quite bag any all-important points. Despite this, the genial Akira Akagi says he has seen real reasons to be hopeful. His team has rehired 1990 driver Eric Bernard alongside the erstwhile Arrows peddler, Hitoshi Ogawa. The Japanese driver often struggled in qualifying sessions, but he did much better in races as his consistency really came to the fore.

Image Osella Squadra Corse Lapidus (PreQ)
17. Image Geoff Brabham and 18. Image Damon Hill

"Brabham" and "Hill" are two of the biggest names in Anglophone motorsports, and they come together under the banner of Osella Squadra Corse. However, they will be stuck in a highly competitive Prequalifying field, so if we want to see them on track we might have to get up early on Friday mornings. Despite that, Enzo Osella has said he is "still confident we will get a point this year."

Image Benetton Formula
19. Image Thierry Boutsen and 20. Image Eric van de Poele

In 1990, Benetton had arguably the fastest package on the grid at high-speed venues, although reliability woes hobbled them week after week. By the end of the season, they were just six points behind the third-placed Constructor; points that, but for poor luck, they would absolutely have made up. As a result, Benetton have showed a real vote of confidence in their drivers and their chassis department, but they were not happy with Ferrari power. Instead, they have gone to cross-town rival suppliers, Lamborghini. It will be fascinating to see how this works out for them.

Image West Scuderia Italia
21. Image Pierluigi Martini and 22. Image Stefano Modena

The team often referred to as "the last privateers", Scuderia Italia have new backing, new chassis and a new driver ahead ahead of the all-important 1991 season. With the Concorde Agreement around the corner, their position is more precarious than most teams, so if they end up having to expand their engineering department then they'll need the money to do it. Stefano Modena, their new driver, certainly could be the man to make it happen, but who knows whether the switch to Reynard chassis will be the right call?

Image Equipe Ligier Gitanes
25. Image Erik Comas and 26. Image Philippe Alliot

This is certainly a very interesting proposition: the French team had a resurgent season in 1990 with Lancia-badged Ferrari engines, and will doubtless be hoping that 1991 can bring more of the same. They have brought in the prodigiously talented Erik Comas to partner Philippe Alliot, who at Spa became Ligier's first race winner since Jacques Laffite in 1981 - an extremely exciting driver pairing. Also fascinating is the switch to Ilmor engines: despite being a clear downgrade on Ferrari power, there are the inevitable rumours that this could lead to a Peugeot or Citroen engine partnership in the coming years.

Image Scuderia Ferrari FIAT
27. Image Ayrton Senna and 28. Image Andrea de Cesaris

The most famous team in Formula One came under new management during 1990, as Jaguar's Tom Walkinshaw was brought in to help right the direction of travel. Ayrton Senna then promptly went and dragged out a historic Grand Prix win in Adelaide to catapult Ferrari into third place in the Championship and avoid what threatened to be a real annus horribilis for the team. Regardless, Martin Brundle was not kept on for the new season and in his place came Andrea de Cesaris, the tempestuous Italian putting in several good performances last year before his relationship with the Tyrrell team broke down completely.

Image Venturi Racing (PreQ)
29. Image Eddie Irvine, sharing with Image Perry McCarthy

It's been a real rollercoaster for the team now known as Venturi Racing - barely more than a year ago it was known as Larrousse, before being bought out (disastrously) by Gabriele Rumi's Fondmetal organisation. That went awfully, and the husk of that team has been bought out again by the Monegasque marque, Venturi. It is also the first of this season's five one-car teams; last season, only First-Life ran as a one-car outfit, and that was because they ran out of spare parts. It is certainly an interesting trend.

Image Lucchini Coloni Racing (PreQ)
31. Image Fabrizio Giovanardi

Another team that will be intriguing to watch is Coloni. They had an awful 1990, which is entirely in keeping with their entire history as a team. They haven't ever scored a point and now they're downsizing again to a one-car outfit: Fabrizio Giovanardi rides alone, but he does so with what is essentially last year's Lotus with this year's Lamborghini engine, and it will be fascinating to see how he does - even as the team remains stuck in prequalifying due to only running one car.

Image Porsche Zakspeed Racing
34. Image Karl Wendlinger and 35. Image Mauricio Gugelmin

Zakspeed had an enormous breakout season in 1990 as Marlboro money and Ferrari engines powered unprecedented success for the little German outfit. This attracted the attention of Porsche, who have bought into the Zakspeed project to a great enough extent that the constructor will now officially be known as "Porsche". However, the engine is expected to be a massive piece of shite, and it remains to be seen for how long Wendlinger and Gugelmin can stay out of prequalifying.

Image Onyx Goodyear Formula One Team (PreQ)
36. Image Aguri Suzuki and 37. Image Andrea Chiesa

The Onyx F1 Team has a very new look for the 1991 season: a complete makeover if you will. They've got a brand new chassis (based on last year's Tyrrell), a brand new engine supplier (Lamborghini), a brand new tyre supplier (Goodyear, one of only two teams using them) and two brand new drivers. Aguri Suzuki scored two points driving for Footwork last year, his first-ever points in Formula One, and Andrea Chiesa arrives on the grid after two strong seasons in F3000 where he finished 6th and 7th in the Championship, including a win at Enna Pergusa (1990) and a trio of second-places at Vallelunga (1990), Donington and Birmingham (both 1991). It will be a fascinating intra-team battle.

Image PIAA Rial Racing (PreQ)
38. Image Fritz Kreutzpointner and 39. Image Toshio Suzuki

Well this looks fine. To think Rial ran Bernd Schneider and Michael Schumacher last year.

Image Elf Team AGS (PreQ)
40. Image Yannick Dalmas, sharing with Image Eric Hélary

After expanding to two cars in 1990, AGS have contracted back to only one car again for 1991. The French outfit is one that likes to promote promising French drivers, and by that measure its 1990 was a success: Erik Comas's shock point was enough to get the attention of Ligier and a potentially race-winning drive. Yannick Dalmas and Eric Hélary will be hoping that they too can capitalise on this opportunity.

Image Escuderia Pemex (PreQ)
42. Image Christian Fittipaldi

Escuderia Pemex has not had an easy route to the Formula One grid, and yet here they are with driver Christian Fittipaldi. They should even do quite well, as the Lola chassis is still a really good, nimble machine. Somewhere along the line though, it seems as if the idea of being "Mexico's national racing team" might have been lost.

Image EuroBrun Subaru (PreQ)
44. Image Michael Bartels and 45. Image George Fouché

EuroBrun never once escaped prequalifying in 1990. Not once. Despite that they've somehow clawed themselves back onto the grid again for 1991, with two new suckers drivers to peddle it around. Not only that, but there's a brand new EuroBrun chassis, and even the Subaru engine has been developed. Could they, just maybe, prequalify?

Image Canon Monteverdi (PreQ)
46. Image Stefan Johansson

No-one quite knows how it has happened, but Monteverdi has put together what might be a really good package. The Ferrari engine in the back of it will make it a rocketship down the straights, while Stefan Johansson has a proven knack for wrestling uncooperative cars around corners. Could Monteverdi possibly pick up the points needed to establish themselves on the F1 grid going forwards?

Image Footwork Project Four
48. Image Nelson Piquet and 49. Image Bertrand Gachot

Never ever doubt the power of Ron Dennis. Footwork Project Four arrived with a bang and a works Yamaha deal in 1990, built from the ground up in a single off-season following the breakdown of Ron Dennis' working relationship with Mansour Ojjeh. The team then managed to finish the season in seventh, just three points behind race-winning team Ligier. This season, they plan to do considerably better: they've recruited three-time World Champion Nelson Piquet, and built what Dennis describes as a "bulletproof" car. They've even secured Ferrari engines so as to compete better at high-speed tracks. Whisper it, they could be real contenders this year.

Image Eddie Jordan Racing (PreQ)
50. Image Paul Warwick and 51. Image Mika Salo

This will be a season of survival for the former F3000 team, as they attempt to conquer F1 using the combined powers of vibes, and Eddie Jordan's weird ability to convince people of things. We probably won't see much of it though, as we've not heard from anyone who thinks that this Jordan is likely to be a good car.
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Protest Response 91-001

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Protest 001 wrote: FROM:
Jagermeister Team Tyrrell
West Scuderia Italia
Equipe Ligier Gitanes
Scuderia Ferrari FIAT
Osella Squadra Corse Lapidus
Onyx Goodyear Fomula One Team
Elf Team AGS
Eurobrun Subaru
Canon Monteverdi
Porsche Zakspeed Racing
Footwork Project Four
Leyton House Racing
Benetton Formula
Venturi Racing
Lucchini Coloni Racing
Camel McLaren Honda
Braun Arrows Grand Prix

TO:
FIA

Title: Marlboro Williams Renault admission to the 1991 Formula One World Championship

Claim: The teams signing this formal protest want to protest the decision of the FIA to accept the admission of the team Marlboro Williams Renault to the 1991 Formula One World Championship, on the following grounds:

- The team Marlboro Williams Renault is de-facto operating on different financial rules. While the claimants admit that team Marlboro Williams Renault paid their admission fees in due time for the 1991 Formula One World Championship, the claimants would like to remind the FIA that the team Marlboro Williams Renault has de-facto incurred into a massive debt for the remainder of the season by delaying payments in two key areas of the team operation such engine costs and their lead driver salary. While the claimants accept that a team may incur in some pending , and usually minor costs after paying the entry fees on the basis of the different agreements that may exist between a team and its providers and drivers, allowing a team to incur in such debt constitutes a break of the financial rules. By allowing the team Marlboro Williams Renault to operate after the entry fee payment, the team is indirectly and artificially delaying filing for insolvency, as there's no guarantee that the team can meet the Formula One World Championship goals and their sponsorship goals that would require the team to operate. The claimants would like to remind the FIA that the claimants have followed a strict protocol to meet the financial requirements to enter the 1991 Formula One World Championship, and, unlike the team that is target of this claim, none of the debts that any of the teams have incurred in question the long term financial viability and the day to day operation of said teams.
- The claimants consider that the team Marlboro Williams Renault is bringing the image of the FIA Formula One World Championship into disrepute, given the constant flux of information in the media about the financial status of the team and their negotiations with the drivers and their suppliers with outlandish payment plan proposals due to the team's own incapability to meet its own targets.

Therefore, the claimants request:

- That the team known as Marlboro Williams Renault is revoked the admission into the 1991 Formula One World Championship

- That the FIA implements stricter and clearer control measures about how far a team can go into future debt, in order for all the teams to operate under the same clear rules.

Apendix:
The costs of filing this procedure shall be paid by the claimants in the following way:
  • West Scuderia Italia - £760
  • Scuderia Ferrari FIAT - £770
  • Porsche Zakspeed Racing - £770
  • Footwork Project Four - £770
  • Leyton House Racing - £770
  • Benetton Formula - £770
  • Jagermeister Team Tyrrell - £770
  • Osella Squadra Corse Lapidus - £770
  • Onyx Goodyear Fomula One Team - £770
  • Eurobrun Subaru - £770
  • Venturi Racing - £770
  • Camel McLaren Honda - £770
  • Braun Arrows Grand Prix - £770
In response to the Complainants' claims, the FIA position is as follows:
  • The Marlboro Williams Renault Formula One team has broken no financial rules; it has successfully paid the FIA Entry Fees on time and in full, and therefore will be able to compete in the upcoming Formula One World Championships. Although the Complainants speculate that Williams' present financial practices may not be sustainable, that is the concern and responsibility of the Marlboro Williams Renault Formula One team.
  • The FIA upholds the claim that recent media reportage surrounding the Marlboro Williams Renault Formula One team, and their recent statements to the media are harmful to the image of the team, and of Formula One in general. Therefore the FIA officially reprimands the Marlboro Williams Renault Formula One team, and asks it to be more mindful of the tone and content of the statements it issues to the media. No further punishment is considered necessary at this time.
In responses to the Complainants' requests, the FIA position is as follows:
  • The Marlboro Williams Renault Formula One team will retain the right to compete in the 1991 Formula One World Championships, as secured through the correct payment of the FIA Entry Fees.
  • The FIA will also not be imposing regulations regarding teams' internal finances or any debt caps now, or at any time before the 1992 Concorde Agreement.
In addition to this, the FIA wishes to clarify that:
  • Teams wishing to bring about new rules and regulations to tighten the financial constraints within which Formula One teams operate should consider the drafting of the 1992 Concorde Agreement to be the appropriate forum in which to do so.
  • Furthermore, the FIA wishes to remind all teams that "locker room" comments regarding "insider trading", or other comparable practices, are not in keeping with the Formula One's public image as the Pinnacle of Motorsport (TM).
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Re: Scrub-Era F1: 1991 - Survival of the Richest

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Auto Hebdo wrote: AGS calls Formula 1 decision on Williams entry "disappointing"

AGS team principal Henri Julien has responded to the FIA's decision to dismiss a protest lodged by more than half of Formula One's teams regarding the status of Williams' entry into the 1991 championship.

"We are very disappointed with the FIA's decision. But it is what it is. I've been in this sport for thirty years, unfortunately it is part of the game."

Julien did not elaborate further, referring to the FIA's official stance that internal matters should not be discussed in detail in public. However, Auto Hebdo managed to speak to another source close to the team.

"They were told they needed to secure an engine supply before their entry into the Championship would be accepted. So that's what they did. They had to make the difficult decision to downsize to one car, and give both of their drivers only half a season. And then Williams comes along, and because they're Williams they are allowed to play by different rules. I can tell you many teams are going to feel the same way. Pre-qualifying will be brutal this year. And the teams and drivers packing up their things on Friday morning will remember they're doing so in part because, to be frank with you, two cars will be taking the green flag that shouldn't be there at all."
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Onyx to "take note" on FIA response over Williams claims

In a press statement released this morning, Onyx Goodyear Formula One Team gave their impressions on the FIA ruling of the joint protest 17 teams sent to the FIA against Williams. The statement read:
"We at Onyx are disappointed, but not surprised, at the response of the FIA regarding the protest. We take note of the FIA response and we will act according to this response in the future. It is clear how important political games are in today's Formula One"
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Autosport wrote: "FIA ruling disappointing but not unexpected" - Tyrrell

Following this morning’s ruling by the FIA on Marlboro Williams Renault's place on the 1991 Formula One World Championship roster, Ken Tyrrell was the latest team principle within the group of 17 teams lodging a protest regarding Williams financial conduct to comment on the situation. Tyrrell's comments echoed those made by AGS' Henri Julien and the Onyx Team press release earlier today. "The FIA's ruling is disappointing but not wholly unexpected. Multiple teams have not had the same leeway as Williams when it has come to renegotiation with creditors - this has been especially grating with some of the smaller teams who have been watching every penny to stay afloat and being only one unexpectedly bad season away from ruin, such as Minardi, while Williams have been actively pushing debt further down the road." Minardi collapsed mere weeks ago despite securing drivers, an engine deal and retrofitting last season’s chassis to prepare for 1991 due to being unable to afford the race fees for 1991.

"It’s the suppliers I feel sorry for" added Ken. "If teams push debt into the horizon only to be caught up at a later date, it means suppliers can be left exposed and even suppliers own existence threatened by a team’s financial mismanagement through no fault of their own". Tyrrell then proceeded to follow with considering the FIA ruling an end to the Williams matter, and would not be drawn into public discussion regarding the Concorde Agreement renewal at this time.
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FortiSport wrote: Venturi expresses disappointment with FIA ruling over Williams

Echoing prior comments by AGS, Tyrrell, and Onyx, the Venturi team principal spoke to us regarding the FIA's ruling. "So in spite of everything they've been through financially and all the corners they had to cut, Williams still made it into the championship. They can get away with it because they're Williams, former championship winners. We on the other hand don't have that safety net because we haven't proven ourselves yet. The same goes for Minardi, and look what happened to them. It's quite a shame." The Venturi representative declined to further comment, citing that matters related to the new Concorde Agreement were required to be private.

Venturi has also been one of the teams questioning the legality of this year's Lotus - we await the official response of the FIA...
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Patrick Head swivels in his swivel chair in the Williams HQ head office. In the room is the stench of sweat of two men - himself and Frank Williams - neither of whom can remember the last time they left this office.

"It feels like we've been here for a year," Patrick says to the air, to which the canned audience laughs and applauds.

Frank is reading his English-to-French dictionary, muttering incoherent gibberish under his breath. In front of him at the desk sits a collection of artists' impressions - the artist in this case being Frank himself - of what a French-flag-Marlboro Renault Williams livery might look like. It turns out that even drawing what a car looks like is difficult.

- << Putain >> Frank mutters as he rips up his paper and throws it masterfully into a nearby waste-paper basket, presumably also filled with previous failed drawing attempts. The audience awws and laughs.

After the commercial break, we return to the office where the two men sit. Patrick is reading the paper. His eyes grow manically wide as he looks closer at a news story. The audience laughs. Patrick looks at Frank, who out of the corner of his eye can see Patrick's manic expression. He slowly turns his gaze to Patrick in a humorous way, causing the canned audience to go ecstatic with laughter. Frank grabs his dictionary from the desk and shuffles to a page, points at a phrase, looks at Patrick, and says

- << Qu'est-ce que c'est ? >>

The two stare at each other for an interminably long time as the audience chokes itself to death as a method of displaying to the audience that this is a funny scene and that this is the appropriate time to laugh.

Finally, Patrick explains. "It's been a good day, Frank. Every team on the grid has protested against us and lost, meaning that we have reduced our comparative debt ratio by about 1%." To this, Patrick moves one bead on the abacus that he has planted in the centre of his desk. "Minardi is bust, which is great news for everyone. I can't stand losers."

Patrick stands up from his desk, walks over to Frank holding two outrageously large cigars wrapped in what appears to be £10 notes. "Care to join me, Frank?" he asks with a very French-sounding Frank.
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Protest Response 91-002

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Protest 002 wrote:FROM:
West Scuderia Italia
Equipe Ligier Gitanes
Scuderia Ferrari FIAT
Osella Squadra Corse Lapidus
Onyx Goodyear Fomula One Team
Elf Team AGS
Eurobrun Subaru
Canon Monteverdi
Porsche Zakspeed Racing
Leyton House Racing
Venturi Racing
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Title: Epson Team Lotus Isuzu admission to the 1991 Formula One World Championship

Claim: The teams signing this formal protest want to protest the decision of the FIA to accept the admission of the team Epson Team Lotus Isuzu to the 1991 Formula One World Championship, on the following grounds:

- As far as the claimants understand, Epson Team Lotus Isuzu reached an agreement with Lucchini Coloni Racing for the sale of the chassis used by Epson Team Lotus Isuzu in the 1990 Formula One World Championship

- Both Lucchini Coloni Racing and Epson Team Lotus Isuzu developed the chassis used in the 1990 Formula One World Championship to bring it up to date to the new technical regulations introduced for the 1991 Formula One World Championship.

The claimants want to argue:
- That an updated version of a chassis to comply with the Formula One World Championship regulations (commonly known as a “B-Spec” chassis), does not constitute a new chassis.

- That, despite both Epson Team Lotus Isuzu and Lucchini Coloni racing having developed the aforementioned upgrades separately, they both have upgraded the same chassis..

- That two different entries cannot enter the same chassis, on the grounds that it is a Constructors Championship and that customer teams have been banned from the Formula One World Championship since the signing of the 1981 Concorde Agreement.

- That, under the current set of rules and as per used chassis market common practices, when a team acquires the old chassis from another team, the team buying the old chassis also buys the rights to race that chassis in the Formula One World Championship.

- That, by allowing both entries to race the same chassis, a dangerous precedent is created for the more powerful teams to sell multiple chassis to different teams, therefore paving the way for Formula One to turn into a spec series instead of a Constructors Championship.

Therefore, the claimants request:
- That the team known as Epson Team Lotus Isuzu is temporarily revoked the admission into the 1991 Formula One World Championship, until they enter the championship with a different chassis than Lucchini Coloni Racing.

- Failing the previous request, that the results achieved by Epson Team Lotus Isuzu and Lucchini Coloni Racing during the 1991 Formula One World Championship do not count towards the World Constructors Championship and, therefore, towards the Prize Pool given by the FIA at the end of the 1991 Formula One World Championship.

Apendix:
The costs of filing this procedure shall be paid by the claimants in the following way:

West Scuderia Italia - £1000
Scuderia Ferrari FIAT - £1125
Leyton House Racing - £1125
Osella Squadra Corse Lapidus - £1125
Eurobrun Subaru - £1125
Porsche Zakspeed Racing - £1125
Venturi Racing - £1125
Onyx Goodyear Fomula One Team - £1125
Braun Arrows Grand Prix - £1125
In response to the Complainants' allegations, the FIA observes that that:
  • The Lotus 102B and the Coloni C5 are officially considered to be separate chassis according to the official team registration documents.
  • Lucchini Coloni Racing has been open about the fact while that their chassis was originally based upon the Lotus 102 from 1990, they believe that they have developed it sufficiently in their own direction for it to be considered a separate chassis. In support of their argument, they have cited the precedent set in the 1977 International Cup for Manufacturers, in which the McGuire BM01. McGuire's team carried out modifications to the cars which had previously been known as Williams FW04, and that these cars were recognised as sufficiently different from the original Williams to be considered as belonging to their own constructor.
  • Epson Team Lotus Isuzu are also open about the fact that they have developed the original chassis to become the 102B, and that they had to build an additional chassis with 102B modifications to furnish the demand of running a two-car team.
  • Even in the event that the FIA were to unilaterally designate the Coloni C5 as a Lotus chassis, the Coloni-run Lotus-Lamborghini would still constitute a separate Constructors Championship entry to the Lotus-Isuzu, as demonstrated by the precedent of the 1982 World Championship featuring both Brabham-BMW and Brabham-Ford.
The FIA has therefore decided that it sees no merit in interfering with the entries of either Epson Team Lotus Isuzu or Lucchini Coloni Racing to the FIA Formula One World Championships at this time. The FIA considers that they did not conduct themselves in any way which broke the rules.

However, the FIA agrees with observation made by the Complainants that the status quo does create a situation that is open to abuse if it is allowed to remain. Therefore, the FIA pledges to alter the rules to eliminate this sort of hand-me-down approach to operating Formula One teams ahead of the 1992 season. The FIA guarantees that language to this effect will be included in the 1992 Concorde Agreement when it is drafted in the coming winter.

The FIA wishes to thank West Scuderia Italia, Equipe Ligier Gitanes, Scuderia Ferrari FIAT, Osella Squadra Corse Lapidus, Onyx Goodyear Fomula One Team, Elf Team AGS, Eurobrun Subaru, Canon Monteverdi, Porsche Zakspeed Racing, Leyton House Racing, Venturi Racing and Braun Arrows Grand Prix for their diligence in bringing this matter to the attention of the FIA, and considers the matter closed for the time being.
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AutoScrub wrote: "My last crack at it" - Mansell

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Mansell's final season in Formula One will be for the Marlboro Williams Renault team.

Fan favourite Formula One driver Nigel Mansell has today announced that the 1991 season will be his last in the sport, bringing to an end a decorated twelve-year career that has brought 17 Grand Prix victories and three runner-up finishes in the World Drivers Championship (1986, 1987 and 1990). This is the most for any driver never to win a World Championship, one ahead of Stirling Moss with 16 wins.

"This year is going to be my last crack at it," the British legend told journalists from under his moustache. "I feel like if I can't make it work this year, I should probably accept that my best chances of winning titles might lie outside of Formula One."

When pressed on whether the Indy Car World Series, won last year by Al Unser Jr, might be a destination, Mansell was enigmatic. "I don't have anything lined up yet, but nor have I ruled anything out."

Of course, there is still the possibility that he might claim that elusive World Championship: the Williams-Renault combination took him to Grand Prix victories and his third vice-championship only last season, and are expected to remain near the front of the field in 1991. Could this year be Mansell's year? One presumes it rather has to be if he's ever going to be World Champion.
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1991 Brazilian Grand Prix

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It's that time at last - the first Grand Prix of the season in Sao Paulo! As always, we start the weekend with...

Prequalifying
Once again it's a packed session with 21 cars vying to be among the 10 who go through to main qualifying. Unlike last season, there are several one-car teams among them, and it's worth noting that we'll be seeing those five one-car teams in prequalifying all season long, no matter if they win every race. Clearly the FIA is trying to put pressure on one-car teams, and they can't be happy to see so many this year.

There are however several entrants who are utterly unfazed by prequalifying: Stefan Johansson is one, driving for Monteverdi, as are Fabrizio Giovanardi (Coloni) and Christian Fittipaldi (Pemex Lola). If we see any of them fail to pre-qualify at any point this season I'd be shocked. However the same isn't true of certain other teams: Leyton House continued their incredible year-long luckless streak by locking out P11 and P12 of the prequalifying classification, which must surely be Akira Akagi's worst nightmare (citation needed).

Both Jordans, both Rials, both EuroBruns and both Osellas missed out on the all-important top 10, with the last DNPQ going to Venturi's Eddie Irvine. Jordan, Rial and Osella in particular can expect to be in much the same position every week. The rest, however, move on to...

Main Qualifying
A vintage qualifying performance from one-lap specialist Ayrton Senna was enough for him to claim pole position at his home Grand Prix. The Ferrari engineers look to have built a monstrous engine again this year, with Senna and Piquet (who qualified P3 for Footwork-Ferrari) consistently among the fastest cars on the track all weekend long. The McLaren cars made up for their shortfall in a straight line by being the best car going around the corners, with Prost and Alesi qualifying P2 and P4.

Towards the back, Karl Wendlinger put in a world class lap to sneak onto the grid in the unresponsive Porsche, while a last gasp lap from Johnny Herbert saw him steal the final place on the grid from Lotus' Enrico Bertaggia. Other notable performances came from Mika Hakkinen, who comfortably outqualified the experienced Gerhard Berger, and Erik Comas, who immediately looked comfortable in the Ligier-Ilmor to put it on the fourth row.

Of course, points aren't given out on Saturdays - you have to earn them in the...

Grand Prix
As we know, most races have Lap 1 incidents as 26 cars are packed into just a few hundred yards of road, and the plunge into the Senna S (I presume it was called that even at this point) was no exception. Andrea de Cesaris found himself off the track and out of the race when he tried to go around the outside of Luxembourg's Bertrand Gachot at the first turn (the Footwork man had to retire later on due to transmission damage that may or may not have had to do with this incident). Also falling foul of the first lap gods was Heinz-Harald Frentzen, who got caught out by the fast-starting Ukyo Katayama and got in a tangle with a crash barrier. He was fine, but his Lotus was done for the day.

After that, things stayed pretty calm until the first round of pit stops. The Williams cars pulled in first, seeking to get an advantage over their battling rivals. Next to pit would have been race leader Ayrton Senna, but he sustained a puncture from what looked like a piece of broken Arrows. He got the car back to the pits, but the suspension arm was left crooked by the flailing tyre and he was out of the race.

This brought out a brief safety car (brand new for 1991, lest we forget), allowing several cars to pit and jump the two Williams drivers. Alain Prost was the new race leader, ahead of Piquet, Hakkinen and Alesi. The Williams team had really lost out: they were now all the way down in 6th and 11th. However, things didn't stay that way for long; first Hakkinen, then Piquet retired due to mechanical problems within the space of a few laps. This gave McLaren a 1-2 on the road, ahead of Comas and Schumacher.

Mansell was on the edge of the points, but more than 20 seconds down on the second of two Benettons. But then, the unthinkable happened: Alain Prost tried to accelerate up the hill, but he couldn't find a gear. Alesi stormed past into the lead, and eventually Comas and Schumacher passed him too; he pulled into the pits to retire the car with points out of the question. Could Schumacher fight his way back up into 2nd place?

Despite the superior Renault power, it seemed that the Ligier was able to gain just too much advantage through the twisty second sector. Finally, the cars came through the final turn and passed the chequered flag!

Well, Alesi did. He was half a lap ahead of everyone else. Four lapped cars came through before two cars, one blue and one red, came up the hill
Schumacher was giving it everything and closing fast, but Comas came through to take second place.

The Benettons of Eric van de Poele and Thierry Boutsen came through in fourth and fifth, and Nigel Mansell claimed his first point of the season in sixth place. Several teams will be disheartened by the result this week, but when the entire starting grid is split by barely two seconds of laptime it's worth remembering that really anything can happen.

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Aislabie wrote: 24 Jan 2023, 22:40 the plunge into the Senna S (I presume it was called that even at this point)
I personally thought it got renamed between the 1994 and 1995 GPs (for obvious real life reasons), but can't prove it at the moment. But apparently Senna did have input into its design or something.
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Eddie Jordan announces that we will build 2 new B-Tier cars, designated the EJ00, to be introduced at the earliest possible opportunity.
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Monteverdi would like to purchase one Dallara F191 to be used from round 2 onwards. The current car will be retained for use at a later date
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1991: First in-season RNG

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So we already have some shenanigans to deal with.
First of all, Eddie Jordan Racing have decided that they need a better chassis. It will be a B-Tier chassis, costing them £800,000 they don't have.

Grip: 673
Handling: 71%
Drag: 58%
Overweight: 17kg
Reliability: 57%

However, Eddie has specifically asked for the new chassis as soon as possible. Just how soon will that be?

1-25 - "If we pull out all the stops, it'll be ready by the start of the European season"
26-50 - "We'll have it for you in about six weeks. Should be ready by Monaco."
51-75 - "If you get right off my back about this one, we should have it on the plane to Canada"
76-100 - "You can't rush art. It won't be ready until Silverstone."

30 - The Jordan engineers will be working through the night to get it done in time for Monaco

As many will be aware, working through the night can lead to mistakes. Will there be Consequences(TM) for this rush job?

1-20 - They get away with it just fine despite the rush
21-40 - Some aerodynamic parts aren't fitted in time (lower grip, lower drag)
41-60 - The engine doesn't get mounted quite right, causing a vibration (lower handling, lower reliability)
61-90 - They have to use some bits from the EJ01 to get it done in time (two random attributes switch to the numbers from the other chassis, and the EJO1 can't be resold)
91-100 - They get the fine folks at Renzo Engineering in to help them out

54 - It looks like they've mounted the engine a bit wrong - but just how wrong? (Range: 1-20)

15 - That will bring handling down to 56% and reliability down to 42%.

It'll be interesting to see how the new car goes in Monaco.

- - -

But that is not the end of today's shenanigans - Monteverdi, seeing the potential of their driver and engine, have decided to approach Dallara to use one F191 for £200,000.

With their car otherwise going unused, Dallara accept the deal and will have the car ready for Monteverdi to use at the San Marino Grand Prix.

- - -

Finally, Venturi Racing have confirmed that they will be sending Perry McCarthy to Phoenix.
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Aislabie wrote: 27 Jan 2023, 15:13 76-100 - "You can't rush art. It won't be ready until Silverstone."
I don't think Jordan's engineers got the memo that the 1991 British GP will be at Birmingham... imagine if they accidentally turn up at Silverstone instead when it's time for the British GP :lol:
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GT_Forti1 wrote: 30 Jan 2023, 06:10
Aislabie wrote: 27 Jan 2023, 15:13 76-100 - "You can't rush art. It won't be ready until Silverstone."
I don't think Jordan's engineers got the memo that the 1991 British GP will be at Birmingham... imagine if they accidentally turn up at Silverstone instead when it's time for the British GP :lol:
They get the car accross the road for pre-qualifying, only to realise they have to go to Birmingham instead and miss the start of pre-qualifying by 20 minutes.
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