2023 British GP ROTR
2023 British GP ROTR
1) Ferrari - all runners were anonymous today. It was embarrassing.
2) Stroll. Not a good day at the office.
2) Stroll. Not a good day at the office.
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1- Ferrari- another useless weekend- next week will be a year since they won their last race- heading more towards their 2020 car than anything else
2- Lance Stroll- Seriously bad- lucky to get away with a 5-second penalty- took Gasly out.
Hm- Sergio Perez- Went out in q1. Q1!!!! Even Bottas put up more of a fight than this
HM Aston Martin- Home race and they were poor all round
2- Lance Stroll- Seriously bad- lucky to get away with a 5-second penalty- took Gasly out.
Hm- Sergio Perez- Went out in q1. Q1!!!! Even Bottas put up more of a fight than this
HM Aston Martin- Home race and they were poor all round
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Gotta be Ferrari for successfully being nowhere after the Safety Car, or Aston Martin for being nowhere before and after the Safety Car.
sTroll's amateur rejoin into Gasly just iced the cake.
Could honourable mention Alpine too, I suppose. Gasly was barely scraping the top 10 when Stroll deleted him from the race, whilst Ocon parked early on.
sTroll's amateur rejoin into Gasly just iced the cake.
Could honourable mention Alpine too, I suppose. Gasly was barely scraping the top 10 when Stroll deleted him from the race, whilst Ocon parked early on.
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1. Ferrari. Sainz passed be four cars was embarrassing. I think their heads have gone down. Stand by for some sackings.
2. Alpine. Poor.
2. Alpine. Poor.
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It was another case of strange strategy calls by Ferrari - Sainz was left exposed on his hard tyres, and there was the slightly unexpected decision to call Leclerc in for medium tyres, perhaps betraying a lack of confidence in being able to get the softs to the end. Mind you, their pace before the safety car was nothing particularly special either.Spectoremg wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 16:12 1. Ferrari. Sainz passed be four cars was embarrassing. I think their heads have gone down. Stand by for some sackings.
2. Alpine. Poor.
I'm also tempted to suggest Alpha Tauri - they'd hoped for a big jump in performance with the new upgrade package they've brought, but by their own admission the upgrades have been pretty underwhelming in terms of performance gain.
Perez does kind of get a dishonourable mention - Red Bull had hoped for just a top six finish for him in a normal race, which isn't saying a lot given the inherent pace of his car, but that looked like a bit of a distant hope before the safety car compressed the pack and Ferrari's strategies helped him out.
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Checo - Max could be leading the constructors ON HIS OWN. Guess he's lucky Max doesn't need his help like 2021!
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Alpine: A double retirement in a race where only one other driver retired. Stroll was to blame for Gasly's retirement, but still a very bad weekend for them.
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Our very own tommykl for suggesting that teams collude to deny Max Verstappen Grands Chelem ... when he wasn't even eligible for one in this race regardless of the FLAP.
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Umm.... it is the wrong thread.
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Ferrari, from 4th and 5th on the grid to 9th and 10th in the race, is this really the same team who won here last year?
DHM - Lance Stroll, exceeding track limits and taking out Pierre Gasly and also Sergio Perez for his qualifying performance.
DHM - Lance Stroll, exceeding track limits and taking out Pierre Gasly and also Sergio Perez for his qualifying performance.
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Drugs are bad, mmmkay?
Crowded field for ROTR this week.
Brad Pitt/Apple TV Movie- I'm already over it. The fawning is embarrassing. Once again the "pinnacle of motorsport" can't seem to act like it.
Jolyon Palmer - As I said in the 2023 season thread, what actually was he watching this weekend?
Aston Martin - Lack of development really starting to show. This is only compounded by running a one car team essentially.
But ROTR has to be:
Ferrari engine department - three failures over the weekend, and all for paying customers to boot. Yes we miss unreliability, but its no fun kicking back markers when they're down.
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1) The Brad Pitt Movie: Chalk this down to a personal distaste towards Brad Pitt to begin with - for all the films he's been in, I can't think of one where I'd consider his performance spectacular - but he's the wrong choice for a Formula One film and to be frank, I don't trust Bruckheimer to produce a film with any sort of actual compelling features or accuracy to the sport.
2) Ferrari: Scuppered their chances this weekend. Decent practice pace did not result in good pace during the race.
2) Ferrari: Scuppered their chances this weekend. Decent practice pace did not result in good pace during the race.
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Ferrari - The squabbling during qualifying (Q2) which led to Sainz passing Charles after Charles passed Sainz and then the team only mustering 3 points the whole weekend.
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Ferrari
I dont think anyone has brought up the whole "What was Plan B again?" radio message.
Also, there was Russell's radio message about wanting to focus on the Mclarens, not the Ferrari. Which is not only kind of a disrepect towards Ferrari as a threat but also weirdly prophetic. Just to add to the pile.
Stroll Yeah... what was that move Lance?
Honorable Mention is Alpine as despite their nightmare weekend, Gasly's retirement was Stroll's fault
Also Perez for the Q1 exit and P6 finish despite his immortal soft tyre.
I dont think anyone has brought up the whole "What was Plan B again?" radio message.
Also, there was Russell's radio message about wanting to focus on the Mclarens, not the Ferrari. Which is not only kind of a disrepect towards Ferrari as a threat but also weirdly prophetic. Just to add to the pile.
Stroll Yeah... what was that move Lance?
Honorable Mention is Alpine as despite their nightmare weekend, Gasly's retirement was Stroll's fault
Also Perez for the Q1 exit and P6 finish despite his immortal soft tyre.
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Ferrari - Was very Ferrari I guess
Alpine - Not great
Alpine - Not great
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Ferrari: After being Red Bull’s main challenger by a distance in Austria it was back to same old Ferrari here. Outqualified and outraced by the McLaren’s and underestimating the tire wear (Vasseur saying they were scared to push in case they wore them out) meant they were easy prey for Mercedes who themselves weren’t quite at the races either. The net result was 3 points
Lance Stroll: When the Aston Martin is off color his limitations are always exposed, at Silverstone while Alonso fought hard and salvaged 7th, Stroll was out in Q2 and making another ridiculous move this time on Gasly which rightly earned him a penalty. Both McLaren drivers will pass him in the championship mark my words.
HM: Alpine: what a dire weekend this ended up being for Alpine, The Blue and Pink machines ended up being 2 of the 3 retirements and McLaren’s storming weekend demoted them to 6th overall and on the evidence of the last 2 races that gap is only going to get wider
HM: Perez’s qualifying: Checo has never been the best of qualifiers and that stretches back to his Sauber days but even so you can’t go 5 races in a row in that Red Bull without making Q3, the worst bit is each and every one has either been on pace or an incident of his own accord. Pulling Houdini recovery acts in the race just won’t cut it anymore
Lance Stroll: When the Aston Martin is off color his limitations are always exposed, at Silverstone while Alonso fought hard and salvaged 7th, Stroll was out in Q2 and making another ridiculous move this time on Gasly which rightly earned him a penalty. Both McLaren drivers will pass him in the championship mark my words.
HM: Alpine: what a dire weekend this ended up being for Alpine, The Blue and Pink machines ended up being 2 of the 3 retirements and McLaren’s storming weekend demoted them to 6th overall and on the evidence of the last 2 races that gap is only going to get wider
HM: Perez’s qualifying: Checo has never been the best of qualifiers and that stretches back to his Sauber days but even so you can’t go 5 races in a row in that Red Bull without making Q3, the worst bit is each and every one has either been on pace or an incident of his own accord. Pulling Houdini recovery acts in the race just won’t cut it anymore
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How sure are we that Ferrari wasn't just out of sync and ended up disadvantaged by the safety car? They definitely shouldn't have chosen the hards when they did, especially for Leclerc, but I also just wonder how much it was circumstantial.
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ROTR poll is now up. Ye have 48 hours to vote. Get voting!
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Lace Stroll...
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