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Re: The Lucas di Grassi Formula E Thread

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Silly season has already begun for next year's lineups - Bird leaving Jaguar was obvious (though rumour has it he'll be replacing the departing Rene Rast at McLaren next year), Jaguar are reportedly trying to get Cassidy to have an all New Zealand driver lineup, Frijns has left Abt Cupra (and rumour has it he's headed back to Envision to replace Cassidy following the above).
If Lotterer sticks around at Andretti I'll be amazed - his performance was so bad Dennis effectively won 4th in the constructors championship single-handedly.

On a personal note, I did enjoy Sunday's race once it finally got going, but I definitely feel like I picked the less exciting day to attend.
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I hear a certain former F1 driver now "involved with sustainability" and living in Switzerland is potentially stepping into an FE car next year. My bets are on either Jackie Stewart or Jacques Villeneuve.
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Re: The Lucas di Grassi Formula E Thread

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Rob Dylan wrote: 02 Aug 2023, 11:11 I hear a certain former F1 driver now "involved with sustainability" and living in Switzerland is potentially stepping into an FE car next year. My bets are on either Jackie Stewart or Jacques Villeneuve.
More realistically, possibly Vettel?
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Re: The Lucas di Grassi Formula E Thread

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With the season done and dusted and hopefully everyone knowing the result by now (and if not, why not?), I'll post that complete list of unrejectifications in FE that I mentioned a few days ago. Any driver shown with a line of asterisks is still a reject; three of them have gone part of the way to getting shot of that status, but it's highly unlikely we'll ever see the first two of them in FE again.

Hence, if the car is up to the job, Dan Ticktum needs one more 6th place to escape being a Formula E Reject, and any new drivers - along with Roberto Merhi, David Beckmann and Kelvin van der Linde, if they return - will need a 4th, a 5th and another 6th at least, or three 6ths. But you all knew that anyway, right? Looking through the annals of FE history, the majority of unrejectifications come with one big result, rather than scraping three 6ths - not entirely surprising given that there have been seasons when any one of eight teams had a chance at winning at any given event.

Are there other drivers I'd like to see join FE? The only obvious candidate is Jamie Chadwick; there's something that says she might be better at FE than trying to make a name for herself in 'MURICA. Sebastian Vettel? Do me a favour. He's not coming back to driving, and if he did, he'd flunk, just like any other driver who's had any success in F1 (surely nobody can forget THE FINGER, right?) And then there's Billy Monger - I always thought FE would suit him, because how hard can it be to convert an electric car to hand controls? He couldn't have raced the Gen-1 cars, what with having to get out and sprint to the other car, but since Gen-2 that hindrance has been removed. But there's no way he'll leave his cushy job commentating and analysing Charwes Leklerk's hot laps on Channel 4.

Maybe Nyck de Vries will make a comeback somewhere... but it's not as if he has an unrejectification to get rid of.

Code: Select all

REJECT? DRIVER                  FIRST RACE                    UNREJECTIFICATION (plus any notes)
======= ======================  ============================  ==================================
        Daniel Abt              #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #5 – 2014-15 Miami
        Jaime Alguersuari       #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #4 – 2014-15 Buenos Aires
        Sam Bird                #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #1 – 2014-15 Beijing
        Sébastien Buemi         #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #2 – 2014-15 Putrajaya
******  Michela Cerruti         #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          best result 12th
        Karun Chandhok          #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #2 – 2014-15 Putrajaya
        Jérôme d'Ambrosio       #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #2 – 2014-15 Putrajaya
        Lucas di Grassi         #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #1 – 2014-15 Beijing
        Nick Heidfeld           #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #9 – 2014-15 Moscow
******  Katherine Legge         #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          best result 15th
        Franck Montagny         #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #1 – 2014-15 Beijing
        Charles Pic             #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #1 – 2014-15 Beijing
        Nelson Piquet Jr.       #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #3 – 2014-15 Punta del Este
        Nicolas Prost           #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #2 – 2014-15 Putrajaya
        Stéphane Sarrazin       #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #12 – 2015-16 Putrajaya
******  Takuma Sato             #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          one race, one fastest lap, one retirement
        Bruno Senna             #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #12 – 2015-16 Putrajaya
******  Oriol Servià            #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          best result two 7ths
        Jarno Trulli            #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          #3 – 2014-15 Punta del Este
******  Ho-Pin Tung             #1 – 2014-15 Beijing          best result two 11ths
******  Matthew Brabham         #2 – 2014-15 Putrajaya        best result 13th
        António Félix da Costa  #2 – 2014-15 Putrajaya        #4 – 2014-15 Buenos Aires
1/3***  Salvador Durán          #3 – 2014-15 Punta del Este   best result 6th
******  António García          #3 – 2014-15 Punta del Este   best result 11th
        Jean-Éric Vergne        #3 – 2014-15 Punta del Este   #6 – 2014-15 Long Beach
******  Marco Andretti          #4 – 2014-15 Buenos Aires     best result 12th
        Loïc Duval              #5 – 2014-15 Miami            #8 – 2014-15 Berlin
******  Vitantonio Liuzzi       #5 – 2014-15 Miami            best result 9th
        Scott Speed             #5 – 2014-15 Miami            #5 – 2014-15 Miami
******  Justin Wilson           #9 – 2014-15 Moscow           best result 10th; deceased, but not from an FE race)
******  Simona de Silvestro     #10 – 2014-15 London (1)      best result two 9ths
******  Alex Fontana            #10 – 2014-15 London (1)      best result 14th
******  Fabio Leimer            #10 – 2014-15 London (1)      best result 14th
        Oliver Turvey           #10 – 2014-15 London (1)      #34 – 2017-18 Hong Kong (2)
******  Sakon Yamamoto          #10 – 2014-15 London (1)      two retirements only
******  Nathanaël Berthon       #11 – 2015-16 Beijing         best result 8th
        Robin Frijns            #11 – 2015-16 Beijing         #12 – 2015-16 Putrajaya
******  Jacques Villeneuve      #11 – 2015-16 Beijing         best result 11th
        Oliver Rowland          #13 – 2015-16 Punta del Este  #50 – 2018-19 Sanya
******  Mike Conway             #14 – 2015-16 Buenos Aires    best result 8th
******  Ma Qing Hua             #17 – 2015-16 Paris           best result 11th; most FE races without scoring a point.
        René Rast               #18 – 2015-16 Berlin          #68 – 2019-20 Berlin (5)
******  Adam Carroll            #21 – 2016-17 Hong Kong       best result 8th
        Maro Engel              #21 – 2016-17 Hong Kong       #40 – 2017-18 Paris
        Mitch Evans             #21 – 2016-17 Hong Kong       #34 – 2017-18 Hong Kong (2)
        José María López        #21 – 2016-17 Hong Kong       #24 – 2016-17 Mexico City
        Felix Rosenqvist        #21 – 2016-17 Hong Kong       #22 – 2016-17 Marrakesh
******  Esteban Gutiérrez       #24 – 2016-17 Mexico City     best result 8th
        Tom Dillmann            #26 – 2016-17 Paris           #43 – 2017-18 New York (1)
        Pierre Gasly            #28 – 2016-17 New York (1)    #29 – 2016-17 New York (2)
        Alex Lynn               #28 – 2016-17 New York (1)    #68 – 2019-20 Berlin (5)
******  Luca Filippi            #33 – 2017-18 Hong Kong (1)   best result 10th
1/3***  Neel Jani               #33 – 2017-18 Hong Kong (1)   best result 6th
******  Kamui Kobayashi         #33 – 2017-18 Hong Kong (1)   best result 15th
        André Lotterer          #33 – 2017-18 Hong Kong (1)   #36 – 2017-18 Santiago
        Edoardo Mortara         #33 – 2017-18 Hong Kong (1)   #34 – 2017-18 Hong Kong (2)
******  Tom Blomqvist           #35 – 2017-18 Marrakesh       best result two 8ths
******  Gary Paffett            #45 – 2018-19 Diriyah         best result two 8ths
        Felipe Massa            #45 – 2018-19 Diriyah         #53 – 2018-19 Monaco
        Alexander Sims          #45 – 2018-19 Diriyah         #52 – 2018-19 Paris
        Maximilian Günther      #45 – 2018-19 Diriyah         #55 – 2018-19 Bern
        Stoffel Vandoorne       #45 – 2018-19 Diriyah         #51 – 2018-19 Rome
        Pascal Wehrlein         #46 – 2018-19 Marrakesh       #47 – 2018-19 Santiago
******  Felipe Nasr             #48 – 2018-19 Mexico City     best result 19th
******  James Calado            #58 – 2019-20 Diriyah (1)     best result 7th
        Nyck de Vries           #58 – 2019-20 Diriyah (1)     #60 – 2019-20 Santiago
******  Brendon Hartley         #58 – 2019-20 Diriyah (1)     best result 9th
        Nico Müller             #58 – 2019-20 Diriyah (1)     #73 – 2020-21 Valencia (1)
        Sérgio Sette Câmara     #63 – 2019-20 Berlin (1)      #70 – 2020-21 Diriyah (2)
        Nick Cassidy            #69 – 2020-21 Diriyah (1)     #73 – 2020-21 Valencia (1)
        Jake Dennis             #69 – 2020-21 Diriyah (1)     #74 – 2020-21 Valencia (2)
        Norman Nato             #69 – 2020-21 Diriyah (1)     #82 – 2020-21 Berlin (1)
******  Joel Eriksson           #76 – 2020-21 Puebla (1)      best result 10th
        Oliver Askew            #84 – 2021-22 Diriyah (1)     #96 – 2021-22 London (1)
******  Antonio Giovinazzi      #84 – 2021-22 Diriyah (1)     best result 16th
2/3***  Dan Ticktum             #84 – 2021-22 Diriyah (1)     best result two 6ths
        Sacha Fenestraz         #99 – 2021-22 Seoul (2)       #108 – 2022-23 Monaco
        Jake Hughes             #100 – 2022-23 Mexico City    #102 – 2022-23 Diriyah (2)
******  Kelvin van der Linde    #101 – 2022-23 Diriyah (1)    best result 16th
******  David Beckmann          #109 – 2022-23 Jakarta (1)    best result 16th
******  Roberto Merhi           #109 – 2022-23 Jakarta (1)    best result 12th
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Re: The Lucas di Grassi Formula E Thread

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Anoraks on! Nerd glasses fixed with Sellotape at the ready! Adenoidal voices all round!
CoopsII wrote: 21 Mar 2014, 08:36 I think for most of us F1 Rejecters this is THE series. Its not some ropey old racing machines hustled back into life, its brand new state of the (electronic) art gear. And, as mentioned, a brilliant mix of drivers; has-beens, might be's and wont be's. And the old Stig thrown in for good measure.

AND ITS ALL LIVE AND FREE TO WATCH IN THE UK!!!!
- 12 March 2014, top of page 7

For this post I've had to go back to the early pages of this thread, the oldest of which are 11 years in the past. To think that even this forum on page 1 was pouring scorn on FE's chances, all it took was for SUPER AGURI to be announced and suddenly interest picked up.

With the round-up done of who's still a Formula E Reject and who isn't, I thought I'd also have a hypothetical look at how the car numbering would be if the series had used F1-1996-to-2013-style championship position numbering, as F2 still does today. For the first season, I've used the order in which each team's participation was confirmed... which neatly avoids the problem of who gets to drive car 1. Then, for all further seasons, I've given the lower number to whichever driver finished higher up the standings if they were both retained or if both drivers were new to the team, or to the one driver retained from the previous season. (The only exception to this is Mahindra in season 5, where Felix Rosenqvist had left FE officially but came back to fill in for Pascal Wehrlein for the first round.)

Season 1, 2014-15

1/2: Drayson Racing - confirmed 9 January 2013
  • dropped out before pre-season testing
3/4: China Racing - confirmed 27 February 2013
  • 3: Nelson Piquet Jr.
  • 4: Ho-Pin Tung, Antonio García, Charles Pic, Oliver Turvey
5/6: Andretti Autosport - confirmed 17 July 2013
  • 5: Franck Montagny, Jean-Éric Vergne
  • 6: Charles Pic, Matthew Brabham, Marco Andretti, Scott Speed, Justin Wilson, Simona de Silvestro
7/8: Dragon Racing - confirmed 25 September 2013
  • 7: Jérôme d'Ambrosio (who was actually car 7 anyway)
  • 8: Oriol Servià, Loïc Duval
9/10: Renault e.dams - confirmed 24 October 2013
  • 9: Sébastien Buemi (who was actually car 9 anyway)
  • 10: Nico Prost
11/12: SUPER (Amlin) AGURI - confirmed 1 November 2013
  • 11: Takuma Sato, António Félix da Costa, Sakon Yamamoto
  • 12: Katherine Legge, Salvador Durán
14/15: Abt Schaeffler Audi Sport - confirmed 15 November 2013
  • 14: Lucas di Grassi
  • 15: Daniel Abt
16/17: Mahindra Racing - confirmed 28 November 2013
  • 16: Bruno Senna
  • 17: Karun Chandhok
18/19: Virgin Racing - confirmed 5 December 2013
  • 18: Sam Bird
  • 19: Jaime Alguersuari, Fabio Leimer
20/21: Venturi - confirmed 9 December 2013
  • 20: Nick Heidfeld
  • 21: Stéphane Sarrazin
22/23: Trulli Grand Prix - confirmed 18 June 2014 after Drayson dropped out
  • 22: Jarno Trulli
  • 23: Michela Cerrutti, Vitantonio Liuzzi, Alex Fontana

Season 2, 2015-16

1/2: NEXTEV TCR - 4th in the 2014-15 Teams' Championship
  • 1: Nelson Piquet Jr.
  • 2: Oliver Turvey
3/4: Renault e.dams
  • 3: Sébastien Buemi
  • 4: Nico Prost
5/6: Dragon Racing
  • 5: Jérôme d'Ambrosio
  • 6: Loïc Duval
7/8: Abt Schaeffler Audi Sport
  • 7: Lucas di Grassi
  • 8: Daniel Abt
9/10: DS Virgin Racing
  • 9: Sam Bird
  • 10: Jean-Éric Vergne
11/12: Amlin Andretti
  • 11: Simona de Silvestro
  • 12: Robin Frijns
14/15: SUPER (Team) AGURI
  • 14: António Félix da Docta, René Rast
  • 15: Nathanaël Berthon, Salvador Durán, Ma Qing Hua
16/17: Mahindra Racing
  • 16: Bruno Senna
  • 17: Nick Heidfeld, Oliver Rowland
18/19: Venturi
  • 18: Stephane Sarrazin
  • 19: Jacques Villeneuve, Mike Conway
20/21: Trulli Grand Prix - never competed in any races this season but were entered
  • 20: Vitantonio Liuzzi
  • 21: Salvador Durán, Jarno Trulli

Season 3, 2016-17

1/2: Renault e.dams - also 2015-16 Teams' Champions
  • 1: Sébastien Buemi, Pierre Gasly
  • 2: Nico Prost
3/4: Abt Schaeffler Audi Sport
  • 3: Lucas di Grassi
  • 4: Daniel Abt
5/6: DS Virgin Racing
  • 5: Sam Bird
  • 6: José María López, Alex Lynn
7/8: Faraday Future Dragon Racing
  • 7: Jérôme d'Ambrosio (who was actually car 7 anyway)
  • 8: Loïc Duval
9/10: Mahindra Racing
  • 9: Nick Heidfeld
  • 10: Felix Rosenqvist
11/12: Venturi
  • 11: Stéphane Sarrazin, Tom Dillmann (rounds 7-12)
  • 12: Maro Engel, Tom Dillmann (round 6)
14/15: MS Amlin Andretti
  • 14: Robin Frijns
  • 15: António Félix da Costa
16/17: Techeetah - was SUPER (Team) AGURI
  • 16: Jean-Éric Vergne
  • 17: Ma Qing Hua, Esteban Gutiérrez, Stéphane Sarrazin
18/19: NEXTEV NIO
  • 18: Nelson Piquet Jr.
  • 19: Oliver Turvey
20/21: Panasonic Jaguar Racing - new team
  • 20: Mitch Evans (who was actually car 20 anyway)
  • 21: Adam Carroll

Season 4, 2017-18

1/2: Audi Sport Abt Schaeffler - 2nd in the 2016-17 Teams' Championship
  • 1: Lucas di Grassi
  • 2: Daniel Abt
3/4: Renault e.dams
  • 3: Sébastien Buemi
  • 4: Nico Prost
5/6: Mahindra Racing
  • 5: Felix Rosenqvist
  • 6: Nick Heidfeld
7/8: DS Virgin Racing
  • 7: Sam Bird
  • 8: Alex Lynn
9/10: Techeetah
  • 9: Jean-Éric Vergne
  • 10: André Lotterer
11/12: NIO
  • 11: Oliver Turvey, Ma Qing Hua (round 12)
  • 12: Luca Filippi, Ma Qing Hua (round 8)
14/15: MS&AD Andretti
  • 14: António Félix da Costa
  • 15: Kamui Kobayashi, Tom Blomqvist, Stéphane Sarrazin
16/17: Dragon Racing
  • 16: Jérôme d'Ambrosio
  • 17: Neel Jani, José María López
18/19: Venturi
  • 18: Maro Engel
  • 19: Edoardo Mortara, Tom Dillmann
20/21: Panasonic Jaguar Racing
  • 20: Mitch Evans (who was actually car 20 anyway, again)
  • 21: Nelson Piquet Jr.

Season 5, 2018-19

1/2: DS Techeetah - 2nd in the 2017-18 Teams' Championship
  • 1: Jean-Éric Vergne
  • 2: André Lotterer
3/4: Audi Sport Abt Schaeffler
  • 3: Lucas di Grassi
  • 4: Daniel Abt
5/6: Envision Virgin Racing
  • 5: Sam Bird
  • 6: Robin Frijns
7/8: Mahindra Racing
  • 7: Jérôme d'Ambrosio (who wasn't car 7 in reality this time)
  • 8: Felix Rosenqvist, Pascal Wehrlein
9/10: Nissan e.dams
  • 9: Sébastien Buemi
  • 10: Oliver Rowland
11/12: Panasonic Jaguar Racing
  • 11: Mitch Evans
  • 12: Nelson Piquet Jr., Alex Lynn
14/15: Venturi
  • 14: Edoardo Mortara
  • 15: Felipe Massa
16/17: NIO
  • 16: Oliver Turvey
  • 17: Tom Dillmann
18/19: Geox Dragon
  • 18: José María López
  • 19: Max Günther, Felipe Nasr
20/21: BMW i Andretti
  • 20: António Félix da Costa
  • 21: Alexander Sims
22/23: HWA Racelab - new team
  • 22: Stoffel Vandoorne
  • 23: Gary Paffett

Season 6, 2019-20

1/2: DS Techeetah - also 2018-19 Teams' Champions
  • 1: Jean-Éric Vergne, James Rossiter (practice only)
  • 2: António Félix da Costa
3/4: Audi Sport Abt Schaeffler
  • 3: Lucas di Grassi
  • 4: Daniel Abt, René Rast
5/6: Envision Virgin Racing
  • 5: Robin Frijns
  • 6: Sam Bird
7/8: Nissan e.dams
  • 7: Sébastien Buemi
  • 8: Oliver Rowland
9/10: BMW i Andretti
  • 9: Alexander Sims
  • 10: Max Günther
11/12: Mahindra Racing
  • 11: Jérôme d'Ambrosio
  • 12: Pascal Wehrlein, Alex Lynn
14/15: Panasonic Jaguar Racing
  • 14: Mitch Evans
  • 15: James Calado, Tom Blomqvist
16/17: ROKiT Venturi Racing
  • 16: Edoardo Mortara
  • 17: Felipe Massa
18/19: Mercedes EQ - was HWA Racelab
  • 18: Stoffel Vandoorne
  • 19: Nyck de Vries
20/21: Geox Dragon
  • 20: Brendon Hartley, Sergio Sette Câmara
  • 21: Nico Müller
22/23: NIO 333
  • 22: Oliver Turvey
  • 23: Ma Qing Hua, Daniel Abt
24/25: TAG Heuer Porsche - new team
  • 24: André Lotterer
  • 25: Neel Jani

Season 7, 2020-21

1/2: DS Techeetah - also 2019-20 Teams' Champions
  • 1: António Félix da Costa
  • 2: Jean-Éric Vergne
3/4: Nissan e.dams
  • 3: Sébastien Buemi
  • 4: Oliver Rowland
5/6: Mercedes EQ
  • 5: Stoffel Vandoorne (who was actually car 5 anyway)
  • 6: Nyck de Vries
7/8: Envision Virgin Racing
  • 7: Robin Frijns
  • 8: Nick Cassidy
9/10: BMW i Andretti
  • 9: Max Günther
  • 10: Jake Dennis
11/12: Audi Sport Abt Schaeffler
  • 11: Lucas di Grassi (who was actually car 11 anyway)
  • 12: René Rast
14/15: Jaguar Racing
  • 14: Mitch Evans
  • 15: Sam Bird
16/17: TAG Heuer Porsche
  • 16: André Lotterer
  • 17: Pascal Wehrlein
18/19: Mahindra Racing
  • 18: Alexander Sims
  • 19: Alex Lynn
20/21: ROKiT Venturi
  • 20: Edoardo Mortara
  • 21: Norman Nato
22/23: Dragon-Penske
  • 22: Nico Müller, Joel Eriksson
  • 23: Sergio Sette Câmara
24/25: NIO 333
  • 24: Oliver Turvey
  • 25: Tom Blomqvist

Season 8, 2021-22

1/2: Mercedes EQ - also 2020-21 Teams' Champions
  • 1: Nyck de Vries
  • 2: Stoffel Vandoorne
3/4: Jaguar TCS Racing
  • 3: Mitch Evans
  • 4: Sam Bird, Norman Nato
5/6: DS Techeetah
  • 5: António Félix da Costa
  • 6: Jean-Éric Vergne
7/8: Audi Sport Abt Schaeffler
  • left the series
9/10: Envision Racing
  • 9: Robin Frijns
  • 10: Nick Cassidy
11/12: Avalanche Andretti
  • 11: Jake Dennis
  • 12: Oliver Askew
14/15: ROKiT Venturi Racing
  • 14: Edoardo Mortara
  • 15: Lucas di Grassi
16/17: TAG Heuer Porsche
  • 16: Pascal Wehrlein
  • 17: André Lotterer
18/19: Mahindra Racing
  • 18: Alexander Sims
  • 19: Oliver Rowland
20/21: Nissan e.dams
  • 20: Sébastien Buemi
  • 21: Max Günther
22/23: Dragon-Penske
  • 22: Sergio Sette Câmara
  • 23: Antonio Giovinazzi, Sacha Fenestraz
24/25: NIO 333
  • 24: Oliver Turvey
  • 25: Dan Ticktum

Season 9, 2022-23

1/2: DS Penske - 11th in the 2021-22 Teams' Championship
  • 1: Stoffel Vandoorne
  • 2: Jean-Éric Vergne
3/4: NEOM McLaren - was Mercedes EQ
  • 3: René Rast
  • 4: Jake Hughes
5/6: Maserati MSG Racing
  • 5: Edoardo Mortara
  • 6: Max Günther
7/8: Techeetah
  • left the series
9/10: Jaguar TCS Racing
  • 9: Mitch Evans (who was actually car 9 anyway)
  • 10: Sam Bird (who was actually car 10 anyway)
11/12: Envision Racing
  • 11: Nick Cassidy
  • 12: Sébastien Buemi
14/15: Avalanche Andretti
  • 14: Jake Dennis
  • 15: André Lotterer, David Beckmann
16/17: TAG Heuer Porsche
  • 16: Pascal Wehrlein
  • 17: António Félix da Costa
18/19: Mahindra Racing
  • 18: Oliver Rowland, Roberto Merhi
  • 19: Lucas di Grassi
20/21: Nissan
  • 20: Sacha Fenestraz
  • 21: Norman Nato
22/23: NIO 333
  • 22: Dan Ticktum
  • 23: Sergio Sette Câmara
24/25: Abt Cupra
  • 24: Robin Frijns, Kelvin van der Linde
  • 25: Nico Müller

Season 10, 2023-24 (seats confirmed plus speculation by The Race)

1/2: Avalanche Andretti - 3rd in the 2022-23 Teams' Championship
  • 1: Jake Dennis
  • 2: apparently Felipe Drugovich
3/4: Envision Racing
  • 3: Sébastien Buemi
  • 4: Robin Frijns
5/6: Jaguar TCS Racing
  • 5: Mitch Evans
  • 6: Nick Cassidy
7/8: TAG Heuer Porsche
  • 7: probably Pascal Wehrlein
  • 8: probably also António Félix da Costa
9/10: DS Penske
  • 9: probably Jean-Éric Vergne
  • 10: probably also Stoffel Vandoorne
11/12: Maserati MSG Racing
  • 11: probably Max Günther
  • 12: Edoardo Mortara (who would be 11 if Max isn't in the other car)
14/15: Nissan
  • 14: probably Sacha Fenestraz
  • 15: maybe Oliver Rowland
16/17: NEOM McLaren
  • 16: probably Jake Hughes
  • 17: very likely to be Sam Bird
18/19: NIO 333
  • 18: very probably Dan Ticktum
  • 19: very probably also Sergio Sette Câmara
20/21: Mahindra Racing
  • 20: Lucas di Grassi, apparently
  • 21: anyone who's willing to put up with that reticent drivetrain, allegedly Jehan Daruvala
22/23: Abt Cupra
  • 22: still Nico Müller, if he takes up masochism
  • 23: Kelvin and Sheldon van der Linde, sitting in the same seat
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Re: The Lucas di Grassi Formula E Thread

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So Sam Bird will be at McLaren, confirmed.

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So the worst kept secret since Lance Stroll joining the team owned by his dad is out...
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Epic cope. If he was talking about Jake Dennis, and the Sam Bird of the Virgin days who could punch above that car's weight, he might have a point, but he isn't. Jake Hughes has a very heavy right foot that doesn't suit FE and Sam... is well past his best.

Though, I'd like him to prove me wrong and maybe he'll end up as FE World Champion when he's knocking hard on the door of 40.
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It's all slotting together, and in a way I didn't expect...

- Nyck de Vries is coming back to FE, alongside Edoardo Mortara... at Mahindra.
- Lucas di Grassi has been displaced and gone back to his "old" team, ABT Cupra... for another year of pain, but maybe better results in season 11.
- Roberto Merhi has left the building.
- Jehan Daruvala has been promoted from Maserati reserve to main driver, alongside Max Günther.
- Norman Nato replaces André Lotterer at Andretti, and Oliver Rowland returns to FE in Nato's former Nissan seat.
- Nobody is confirmed at Porsche, but it'll be Wehrlein and da Costa again, surely?

Also, anyone up for the London ePrix this coming season? I haven't been to a live race since that day in Battersea Park.
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dinizintheoven wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 12:22

Also, anyone up for the London ePrix this coming season? I haven't been to a live race since that day in Battersea Park.
I'll be up for it. I haven't done a live FE race since then either, although I've done BTCC since then, at Knockhill, Brands Hatch and Rockingham.

Was due to go to New York in June 2020 for the FE, but that trip got cancelled.

Would you go on the Saturday again, or the Sunday, or both days?
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dr-baker wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 16:38 Would you go on the Saturday again, or the Sunday, or both days?
Make a celebration of it and do both days. Might have to go beer-free because accommodation in London is still more expensive than driving to Epping and getting a tube in and out of Sadiq's Hot Zone.
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dinizintheoven wrote: 01 Oct 2023, 17:55
dr-baker wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 16:38 Would you go on the Saturday again, or the Sunday, or both days?
Make a celebration of it and do both days. Might have to go beer-free because accommodation in London is still more expensive than driving to Epping and getting a tube in and out of Sadiq's Hot Zone.
Sounds good to me. I would be up for that. All the way back in 2015, it allowed me to try a wider variety of viewing areas.

Although I would be tempted to pay up for grandstand seating within the Excel Centre itself this time.
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For what it's worth(I can't see it being posted before)

2024 Calendar
Round 01:13 Jan Mexico City,Mexico
Round 02:26 Jan Diriyah,Saudi Arabia
Round 03:27 Jan Diriyah,Saudi Arabia
Round 04:10 Feb TBC
Round 05:24 Feb TBC
Round 06:16 Mar Sao Paolo,Brazil
Round 07:30 Mar Tokyo,Japan
Round 08:13 Apr Rome,Italy
Round 09:14 Apr Rome,Italy
Round 10:27 Apr Monaco,Monaco
Round 11:11 May Berlin,Germany
Round 12:12 May Berlin,Germany
Round 13:25 May TBC
Round 14:08 Jun Jakarta,Indonesia
Round 15:29 Jun Portland,USA
Round 16:20 Jul London,England
Round 17:21 Jul London,England


Any candidates for the missing three rounds?
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You'd hope Cape Town would be one of the February dates - was lucky enough to go out to South Africa for that race this year, and it was incredible. Poor old Kelvin van der Linde though, got run ragged doing media duties around the city and then couldn't even take to the start...

But there's still issues in SA with things like load shedding - it didn't really affect the race as FE brings its own power source and many big civil works have their own off-grid generators or solar energy solutions, but it's still a problem affecting most people every day.

The other February space is being held for Hyderabad but there's a bit of doubt about that one, and Malaga may be the May date. FE's become a bit more cautious over officially announcing things until they're set in stone, as the Vancouver race being canned was a bit of a PR nightmare even though it was entirely down to the promoter rather than the championship. FE also wants to get Seoul back in.
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