Alt-1959: Enter France!
Re: Alt-1959: Enter Monaco!
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Re: Alt-1959: Enter Monaco!
May 10th 1959, Monaco Grand Prix
After some early chaos on the starting grid where the race was started with some drivers out of position, Brabham grabbed the lead from Stirling Moss into Casino Square, with Moss, Ramos, Gregory and Graham Hill following close behind. Ramos' challenge quickly petered out as his clutch started to smell and then caught fire after completing just two laps.
Brabham soon hit a run of slower pace. This led to the formation of a close pack behind him and allowed Graham Hill and John Surtees to make some gains. By lap 5, B.C.M.A. held the first three positions, though this only lasted for two laps. Moss finally found his way through on lap 8, while his teammate dropped back to fourth behind Moss, Hill and a charging Peter Collins. Hill's very promising race would not last long however, cruelly interrupted by Brabham's attempt at returning to the front. At Portier, Brabham caught the moustachioed Brit sleeping, causing a tangle that sent Hill off piste and into the hay, ending his race. Fernand Tavano, who had managed a sensational start to the race to run in fourth, had similarly retired with suspension trouble.
Ferrari were the first to inherit from these retirements, taking up fourth, fifth and sixth places. Of particular note was Gerino Gerini, previously unremarkable, who was now fourth in his Ferrari début. Jo Bonnier was fifth, but only lasted a couple of laps longer before a puncture stopped him on the way up from Sainte-Dévote. O.S.C.A.'s race was brought to a complete halt on the next lap when González's gearbox started to lose chunks of itself. The ninth place he inherited went to Lex Davison's Lotus, but he didn't last long either as Maurice Trintignant punted him off into the straw at the Gasworks hairpin.
By lap 17, Brabham had fallen back to fourth, with Peter Collins and Phil Hill getting the better of him. This proved to be a mere blip of form though, as Brabham was back in second place on lap 20, a ways behind Moss who had just set the race's fastest lap. Brabham set about catching up to his younger teammate, while André Simon picked up where Tavano left off and drove his Voeckler through the pack to reach third place by the time lap 25 started off.
Brabham had caught Moss by this point, and Simon briefly joined the battle for the lead as Moss began to struggle for pace. On lap 28, the Brit made one mistake too many, running wide at Mirabeau and allowing Brabham into the lead. Though Moss spent the following five laps searching high and low for a way past, the Australian fought off all advances until his teammate's tyres began to require some rest. He then set about building a comfortable gap back to Moss in second, then Simon in third, Gerini in fourth and a recovering Masten Gregory in fifth. Alan Stacey's gearbox put him out of his misery shortly thereafter, the Brit having failed to make any headway in the cut-throat midfield traffic.
John Surtees had remained in the mix in the lower half of the top ten for the previous laps, passing Phil Hill for sixth place on lap 30. Peter Collins was also involved in this battle for the last point, as was Maurice Trintignant, and as the battle intensified, so did the desperation of some of the moves. On lap 36, coming up to Massenet, Hill attempted a gutsy move on the outside of Collins. The Brit did not back down, and the American wound up in the escape road, stalled and out of the race. 12 drivers remained, and Surtees had successfully not only escaped the fight, but overtaken Gregory for fifth.
The main on-track skirmishes at this point were between Moss and Simon for second, Collins and Trintignant for seventh and McLaren and Gurney for tenth. The first of them was most eagerly followed for obvious reasons, and it warranted the attention. Simon briefly had second place on lap 38, then took it again more permanently on lap 44, allowing Gerini to join the fight. Moss was clearly the fastest of the three, but Simon put up a masterclass of defensive driving, to the point where Gerini was able to snag third place on lap 47.
However, that battle for seventh heated up very quickly when Jim Russell in the Cooper-BRM finally caught up after a dozen laps of chipping away at the gap. He'd managed to pass Collins for eighth place and set his sights on Trintignant ahead. Under braking for the chicane, Trintignant moved left to defend the inside line just as Russell stuck his nose inside of the Voeckler. The Frenchman spun right into the retaining wall at fairly high speed, while Russell's out-of-control machine clipped a hay bale and overturned. The F3 champion was thrown out of his car in the process. Both drivers were stretchered away to the nearby hospital, Russell unconscious, Trintignant in visible pain.
The sight of the accident was enough to calm everyone right down, and the rest of the race was at least damage-free. Gerini's foray into the top three did not last long, as Moss took the place back on lap 51. Five laps and several spirited attempts later, he took second place as well. This time it lasted four laps, Simon resuming his lead over Moss on lap 60. This was all to Brabham's advantage, setting a new fastest lap as he pulled away further.
Valiant efforts from Masten Gregory kept Surtees at bay from the top five for a long time, but after a back-and-forth lasting the best part of ten laps, the Brit took fifth for good on lap 68. By this point, Gerini had started to struggle for pace, and fewer than ten laps down the line, Surtees took fourth place off the Italian, making it a B.C.M.A. 1-2-4 given Moss' resumption of his second-place run at the two-thirds mark. Moss reclaimed the fastest lap as well, and was closing the gap to Brabham, though the three-time champion's advantage was too great to ever fully nullify.
There were still events of interest though. Roy Salvadori had been running in last place all race, hoping to save his car for a late attack against a more diluted field, but an oil leak put an end to his race before the strategy could come to fruition. Further ahead, Gregory caught Gerini and put serious pressure on the Ferrari for several laps. However, despite a temporarily ailing car, Gerini made his car the widest on track, enough to negate Gregory's pace advantage and ending for good the American's ambition to catch Surtees ahead. Those few laps also contributed to bits of debris clogging up Gregory's radiator, forcing the Lotus to slow and allow the Coopers of Collins and a charging Bruce McLaren to catch up.
In the dying laps, B.C.M.A. began to hope of a 1-2-3 finish as Surtees began to challenge Simon's third place. However, before he could apply more consistent pressure, Surtees was faced with a devastating puncture, ending his race 15 laps from the finish. The 1-2 hopes were also dashed less than 10 laps away from the chequered flag, when the 1952 Monaco winner Simon unlocked one last crucial pocket of pace to sneak past Moss at Tabac one last time.
Ultimately, Brabham was - some early difficulties aside - absolutely imperious and secured his second Monaco victory, five years after the first, snatching the fastest lap away from Moss on the very last lap for good measure. Simon was left to take a fifth career podium and his second in Monaco, one lap behind. Moss took a comfortable third. Gerini showed the 1958 Ferrari could still be relatively competitive with fourth place, while Masten Gregory held off the Coopers for a nonetheless promising fifth. Collins held off McLaren for the final point, helped by Brabham lapping the Kiwi shortly before taking the chequered flag. Dan Gurney was classified eighth and last, though he ran out of fuel two laps short of taking the flag.
1. Jack Brabham (B.C.M.A.) 2:54:58.41
2. André Simon (Voeckler-O.S.C.A.) +2 laps
3. Stirling Moss (B.C.M.A.) +3 laps
4. Gerino Gerini (Ferrari) +4 laps
5. Masten Gregory (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) +5 laps
6. Peter Collins (Cooper-Climax) +6 laps
7. Bruce McLaren (Cooper-Climax) +7 laps
8. Dan Gurney (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) +9 laps/Out of fuel
Ret. John Surtees (B.C.M.A.) +16 laps/Puncture
Ret. Roy Salvadori (Vanwall) +34 laps/Oil leak
Ret. Maurice Trintignant (Voeckler-O.S.C.A.) +53 laps/Collision
Ret. Jim Russell (Cooper-BRM) +53 laps/Collision
Ret. Phil Hill (Ferrari) +65 laps/Collision
Ret. Alan Stacey (B.C.M.A.) +70 laps/Gearbox
Ret. Lex Davison (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) +84 laps/Collision
Ret. José Froilán González (O.S.C.A.) +85 laps/Gearbox
Ret. Jo Bonnier (Ferrari) +86 laps/Puncture
Ret. Graham Hill (O.S.C.A.) +89 laps/Collision
Ret. Fernand Tavano (Voeckler-O.S.C.A.) +91 laps/Suspension
Ret. Hernando da Silva Ramos (O.S.C.A.) +98 laps/Clutch
Fastest lap: Jack Brabham (B.C.M.A.) - 1:39.85
Lap chart
Championship standings
Drivers
1. José Froilán González - 9 (1 win, 1 Ret)
2. Jack Brabham - 9 (1 win)
3. André Simon - 6 (1 2nd, 1 Ret)
4. Wolfgang von Trips - 6 (1 2nd, 1 DNQ)
5. Stirling Moss - 4
6. Gerino Gerini - 3
7. Masten Gregory - 2
8. Peter Collins - 1
Constructors
1. O.S.C.A. - 9 (1 win, 1 2nd)
2. B.C.M.A. - 9 (1 win, 1 3rd)
3. Voeckler-O.S.C.A. - 6
4. Ferrari - 3
5. Lotus-O.S.C.A. - 2
6. Cooper-Climax - 1
Entrants
1. British Commonwealth Motorsport Association - 9 (1 win, 1 3rd)
2. Officine Secializzate Costruzione Automobili - 9 (1 win, 4 Rets)
3. Écurie Voeckler - 6 (1 2nd, 5 Rets)
4. Scuderia Centro Sud - 6 (1 2nd, 2 DNQs)
5. Scuderia Ferrari - 3
6. Team Lotus - 2
7. Cooper Car Company - 1
Prize money to come in due course.
After some early chaos on the starting grid where the race was started with some drivers out of position, Brabham grabbed the lead from Stirling Moss into Casino Square, with Moss, Ramos, Gregory and Graham Hill following close behind. Ramos' challenge quickly petered out as his clutch started to smell and then caught fire after completing just two laps.
Brabham soon hit a run of slower pace. This led to the formation of a close pack behind him and allowed Graham Hill and John Surtees to make some gains. By lap 5, B.C.M.A. held the first three positions, though this only lasted for two laps. Moss finally found his way through on lap 8, while his teammate dropped back to fourth behind Moss, Hill and a charging Peter Collins. Hill's very promising race would not last long however, cruelly interrupted by Brabham's attempt at returning to the front. At Portier, Brabham caught the moustachioed Brit sleeping, causing a tangle that sent Hill off piste and into the hay, ending his race. Fernand Tavano, who had managed a sensational start to the race to run in fourth, had similarly retired with suspension trouble.
Ferrari were the first to inherit from these retirements, taking up fourth, fifth and sixth places. Of particular note was Gerino Gerini, previously unremarkable, who was now fourth in his Ferrari début. Jo Bonnier was fifth, but only lasted a couple of laps longer before a puncture stopped him on the way up from Sainte-Dévote. O.S.C.A.'s race was brought to a complete halt on the next lap when González's gearbox started to lose chunks of itself. The ninth place he inherited went to Lex Davison's Lotus, but he didn't last long either as Maurice Trintignant punted him off into the straw at the Gasworks hairpin.
By lap 17, Brabham had fallen back to fourth, with Peter Collins and Phil Hill getting the better of him. This proved to be a mere blip of form though, as Brabham was back in second place on lap 20, a ways behind Moss who had just set the race's fastest lap. Brabham set about catching up to his younger teammate, while André Simon picked up where Tavano left off and drove his Voeckler through the pack to reach third place by the time lap 25 started off.
Brabham had caught Moss by this point, and Simon briefly joined the battle for the lead as Moss began to struggle for pace. On lap 28, the Brit made one mistake too many, running wide at Mirabeau and allowing Brabham into the lead. Though Moss spent the following five laps searching high and low for a way past, the Australian fought off all advances until his teammate's tyres began to require some rest. He then set about building a comfortable gap back to Moss in second, then Simon in third, Gerini in fourth and a recovering Masten Gregory in fifth. Alan Stacey's gearbox put him out of his misery shortly thereafter, the Brit having failed to make any headway in the cut-throat midfield traffic.
John Surtees had remained in the mix in the lower half of the top ten for the previous laps, passing Phil Hill for sixth place on lap 30. Peter Collins was also involved in this battle for the last point, as was Maurice Trintignant, and as the battle intensified, so did the desperation of some of the moves. On lap 36, coming up to Massenet, Hill attempted a gutsy move on the outside of Collins. The Brit did not back down, and the American wound up in the escape road, stalled and out of the race. 12 drivers remained, and Surtees had successfully not only escaped the fight, but overtaken Gregory for fifth.
The main on-track skirmishes at this point were between Moss and Simon for second, Collins and Trintignant for seventh and McLaren and Gurney for tenth. The first of them was most eagerly followed for obvious reasons, and it warranted the attention. Simon briefly had second place on lap 38, then took it again more permanently on lap 44, allowing Gerini to join the fight. Moss was clearly the fastest of the three, but Simon put up a masterclass of defensive driving, to the point where Gerini was able to snag third place on lap 47.
However, that battle for seventh heated up very quickly when Jim Russell in the Cooper-BRM finally caught up after a dozen laps of chipping away at the gap. He'd managed to pass Collins for eighth place and set his sights on Trintignant ahead. Under braking for the chicane, Trintignant moved left to defend the inside line just as Russell stuck his nose inside of the Voeckler. The Frenchman spun right into the retaining wall at fairly high speed, while Russell's out-of-control machine clipped a hay bale and overturned. The F3 champion was thrown out of his car in the process. Both drivers were stretchered away to the nearby hospital, Russell unconscious, Trintignant in visible pain.
The sight of the accident was enough to calm everyone right down, and the rest of the race was at least damage-free. Gerini's foray into the top three did not last long, as Moss took the place back on lap 51. Five laps and several spirited attempts later, he took second place as well. This time it lasted four laps, Simon resuming his lead over Moss on lap 60. This was all to Brabham's advantage, setting a new fastest lap as he pulled away further.
Valiant efforts from Masten Gregory kept Surtees at bay from the top five for a long time, but after a back-and-forth lasting the best part of ten laps, the Brit took fifth for good on lap 68. By this point, Gerini had started to struggle for pace, and fewer than ten laps down the line, Surtees took fourth place off the Italian, making it a B.C.M.A. 1-2-4 given Moss' resumption of his second-place run at the two-thirds mark. Moss reclaimed the fastest lap as well, and was closing the gap to Brabham, though the three-time champion's advantage was too great to ever fully nullify.
There were still events of interest though. Roy Salvadori had been running in last place all race, hoping to save his car for a late attack against a more diluted field, but an oil leak put an end to his race before the strategy could come to fruition. Further ahead, Gregory caught Gerini and put serious pressure on the Ferrari for several laps. However, despite a temporarily ailing car, Gerini made his car the widest on track, enough to negate Gregory's pace advantage and ending for good the American's ambition to catch Surtees ahead. Those few laps also contributed to bits of debris clogging up Gregory's radiator, forcing the Lotus to slow and allow the Coopers of Collins and a charging Bruce McLaren to catch up.
In the dying laps, B.C.M.A. began to hope of a 1-2-3 finish as Surtees began to challenge Simon's third place. However, before he could apply more consistent pressure, Surtees was faced with a devastating puncture, ending his race 15 laps from the finish. The 1-2 hopes were also dashed less than 10 laps away from the chequered flag, when the 1952 Monaco winner Simon unlocked one last crucial pocket of pace to sneak past Moss at Tabac one last time.
Ultimately, Brabham was - some early difficulties aside - absolutely imperious and secured his second Monaco victory, five years after the first, snatching the fastest lap away from Moss on the very last lap for good measure. Simon was left to take a fifth career podium and his second in Monaco, one lap behind. Moss took a comfortable third. Gerini showed the 1958 Ferrari could still be relatively competitive with fourth place, while Masten Gregory held off the Coopers for a nonetheless promising fifth. Collins held off McLaren for the final point, helped by Brabham lapping the Kiwi shortly before taking the chequered flag. Dan Gurney was classified eighth and last, though he ran out of fuel two laps short of taking the flag.
1. Jack Brabham (B.C.M.A.) 2:54:58.41
2. André Simon (Voeckler-O.S.C.A.) +2 laps
3. Stirling Moss (B.C.M.A.) +3 laps
4. Gerino Gerini (Ferrari) +4 laps
5. Masten Gregory (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) +5 laps
6. Peter Collins (Cooper-Climax) +6 laps
7. Bruce McLaren (Cooper-Climax) +7 laps
8. Dan Gurney (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) +9 laps/Out of fuel
Ret. John Surtees (B.C.M.A.) +16 laps/Puncture
Ret. Roy Salvadori (Vanwall) +34 laps/Oil leak
Ret. Maurice Trintignant (Voeckler-O.S.C.A.) +53 laps/Collision
Ret. Jim Russell (Cooper-BRM) +53 laps/Collision
Ret. Phil Hill (Ferrari) +65 laps/Collision
Ret. Alan Stacey (B.C.M.A.) +70 laps/Gearbox
Ret. Lex Davison (Lotus-O.S.C.A.) +84 laps/Collision
Ret. José Froilán González (O.S.C.A.) +85 laps/Gearbox
Ret. Jo Bonnier (Ferrari) +86 laps/Puncture
Ret. Graham Hill (O.S.C.A.) +89 laps/Collision
Ret. Fernand Tavano (Voeckler-O.S.C.A.) +91 laps/Suspension
Ret. Hernando da Silva Ramos (O.S.C.A.) +98 laps/Clutch
Fastest lap: Jack Brabham (B.C.M.A.) - 1:39.85
Lap chart
Championship standings
Drivers
1. José Froilán González - 9 (1 win, 1 Ret)
2. Jack Brabham - 9 (1 win)
3. André Simon - 6 (1 2nd, 1 Ret)
4. Wolfgang von Trips - 6 (1 2nd, 1 DNQ)
5. Stirling Moss - 4
6. Gerino Gerini - 3
7. Masten Gregory - 2
8. Peter Collins - 1
Constructors
1. O.S.C.A. - 9 (1 win, 1 2nd)
2. B.C.M.A. - 9 (1 win, 1 3rd)
3. Voeckler-O.S.C.A. - 6
4. Ferrari - 3
5. Lotus-O.S.C.A. - 2
6. Cooper-Climax - 1
Entrants
1. British Commonwealth Motorsport Association - 9 (1 win, 1 3rd)
2. Officine Secializzate Costruzione Automobili - 9 (1 win, 4 Rets)
3. Écurie Voeckler - 6 (1 2nd, 5 Rets)
4. Scuderia Centro Sud - 6 (1 2nd, 2 DNQs)
5. Scuderia Ferrari - 3
6. Team Lotus - 2
7. Cooper Car Company - 1
Prize money to come in due course.
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Re: Alt-1959: Enter Monaco!
Post-race report
Injuries
Following their accident, both Jim Russell and Maurice Trintignant were taken to hospital. Russell soon woke up with no lasting effects, and was released after two days of observation with road burn and a minor concussion. Trintignant was less lucky, having broken his left arm in the impact. Doctors estimate his recovery will take 8 months.
Damages
G. Hill's chassis (O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 3) - £6 601
Davison's chassis (Lotus 16 chassis 3) - £8 619
P. Hill's chassis (Ferrari 246 chassis 2) - £6 131
Trintignant's chassis (Voeckler Type 57 chassis 2) - £11 494
Russell's chassis (Cooper T45 chassis 3) - £17 380
Prize money (distance)
Jack Brabham - £2 000
André Simon - £1 980
Stirling Moss - £1 970
Gerino Gerini - £1 960
Masten Gregory - £1 950
Peter Collins - £1 940
Bruce McLaren - £1 930
Dan Gurney - £1 910
John Surtees - £1 840
Roy Salvadori - £1 660
Maurice Trintignant - £1 470
Jim Russell - £1 470
Phil Hill - £1 350
Alan Stacey - £1 300
Lex Davison - £1 160
José Froilán González - £1 150
Jo Bonnier - £1 140
Graham Hill - £1 110
Fernand Tavano - £1 090
Hernando da Silva Ramos - £1 020
Stuart Lewis-Evans - £500
Henry Taylor - £500
Olivier Gendebien - £500
Wolfgang von Trips - £500
Consalvo Sanesi - £500
Rob Slotemaker - £500
Troy Ruttman - £500
Honoré Wagner - £500
Prize money (position)
Jack Brabham - £27 500
André Simon - £21 250
Stirling Moss - £18 000
Gerino Gerini - £11 750
Masten Gregory - £9 000
Peter Collins - £6 250
Bruce McLaren - £5 500
Dan Gurney - £4 750
John Surtees - £4 000
Roy Salvadori - £3 250
Maurice Trintignant - £2 500
Jim Russell - £2 250
Phil Hill - £2 000
Alan Stacey - £1 750
Lex Davison - £1 500
José Froilán González - £1 250
Jo Bonnier - £1 000
Graham Hill - £750
Fernand Tavano - £500
Hernando da Silva Ramos - £250
Budgets have been updated.
Injuries
Following their accident, both Jim Russell and Maurice Trintignant were taken to hospital. Russell soon woke up with no lasting effects, and was released after two days of observation with road burn and a minor concussion. Trintignant was less lucky, having broken his left arm in the impact. Doctors estimate his recovery will take 8 months.
Damages
G. Hill's chassis (O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 3) - £6 601
Davison's chassis (Lotus 16 chassis 3) - £8 619
P. Hill's chassis (Ferrari 246 chassis 2) - £6 131
Trintignant's chassis (Voeckler Type 57 chassis 2) - £11 494
Russell's chassis (Cooper T45 chassis 3) - £17 380
Prize money (distance)
Jack Brabham - £2 000
André Simon - £1 980
Stirling Moss - £1 970
Gerino Gerini - £1 960
Masten Gregory - £1 950
Peter Collins - £1 940
Bruce McLaren - £1 930
Dan Gurney - £1 910
John Surtees - £1 840
Roy Salvadori - £1 660
Maurice Trintignant - £1 470
Jim Russell - £1 470
Phil Hill - £1 350
Alan Stacey - £1 300
Lex Davison - £1 160
José Froilán González - £1 150
Jo Bonnier - £1 140
Graham Hill - £1 110
Fernand Tavano - £1 090
Hernando da Silva Ramos - £1 020
Stuart Lewis-Evans - £500
Henry Taylor - £500
Olivier Gendebien - £500
Wolfgang von Trips - £500
Consalvo Sanesi - £500
Rob Slotemaker - £500
Troy Ruttman - £500
Honoré Wagner - £500
Prize money (position)
Jack Brabham - £27 500
André Simon - £21 250
Stirling Moss - £18 000
Gerino Gerini - £11 750
Masten Gregory - £9 000
Peter Collins - £6 250
Bruce McLaren - £5 500
Dan Gurney - £4 750
John Surtees - £4 000
Roy Salvadori - £3 250
Maurice Trintignant - £2 500
Jim Russell - £2 250
Phil Hill - £2 000
Alan Stacey - £1 750
Lex Davison - £1 500
José Froilán González - £1 250
Jo Bonnier - £1 000
Graham Hill - £750
Fernand Tavano - £500
Hernando da Silva Ramos - £250
Budgets have been updated.
kevinbotz wrote:Cantonese is a completely nonsensical f*cking alien language masquerading as some grossly bastardised form of Chinese
Gonzo wrote:Wasn't there some sort of communisim in the East part of Germany?
Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
XLVI Grand Prix de l'ACF - Entry list
1. Masten Gregory (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 8
2. Alan Stacey (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 9
3. Lex Davison (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16, chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 10
4. Jim Russell (British Racing Partnership) - Cooper T45 chassis 3, BRM P26 engine 5
5. Honoré Wagner (Honoré Wagner) - Lotus 12 chassis 2, OSCA 1558 engine 11
6. Carel Godin de Beaufort (Ecurie Maarsbergen) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 12, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 3
7. Roy Salvadori (Vandervell Products Ltd.) - Vanwall VW58 chassis 1, Vanwall VE2 engine 5
8. Bruce McLaren (Cooper Car Company) - Cooper T45 chassis 1, Climax FPF V engine 1
9. Peter Collins (Cooper Car Company) - Cooper T45 chassis 2, Climax FPF V engine 2
10. Robert la Caze* (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 6
11. André Simon (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 5
12. Fernand Tavano (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 7
13. Jack Brabham (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 1, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 1
14. John Surtees (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 2, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 2
15. Stirling Moss (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 3, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 3
16. Jo Bonnier (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 1, Ferrari 143 engine 1
17. Phil Hill (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 2, Ferrari 143 engine 4
18. Gerino Gerini (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 4, Ferrari 143 engine 5
19. Stuart Lewis-Evans (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 12 chassis 5, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 4
20. Dan Gurney (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 12 chassis 6, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 6
21. Troy Ruttman (Owen Racing Organisation) - Lotus 12 chassis 4, B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 2
22. Mike Parkes (David Fry) - Fry F2 chassis 1, Borgward 1500 RS engine 1*
23. Wolfgang von Trips (Scuderia Centro-Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 10, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 14
24. Consalvo Sanesi (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 1
25. Hernando da Silva Ramos (Officine Secializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 1
26. José Froilán González (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 2
27. Graham Hill (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 3
28. Henry Taylor (Hampshire Racing Alliance) - Vanwall VW58 chassis 2, Vanwall VE2 engine 6
29. Peter Ashdown* (Hampshire Racing Alliance) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 16, Vanwall VE2 engine 2
30. Rob Slotemaker (Rob Slotemaker) - Cooper T45 chassis 5, Climax FPV IV engine 4
31. Jean Lucienbonnet (Jean Lucienbonnet) - BRM P25 chassis 2, BRM P26 engine 2*
32. Bernard Collomb (Bernard Collomb) - BRM P25 chassis 1, BRM P26 engine 1*
33. Alain de Changy (Alain de Changy) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 1, Gordini G258/A engine 1*
34. Jean-Claude Vidilles (Jean-Claude Vidilles) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 3, Gordini G258/A engine 2*
35. "Romain" ("Romain") - Gordini Type 56 chassis 4, Gordini G258/A engine 3*
36. Alain Dagan (Alain Dagan) - Fry F2 chassis 2, Borgward 1500 RS engine 2
*pending checks
You have until Sunday, July 28th at noon CET to enter!
1. Masten Gregory (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 8
2. Alan Stacey (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 9
3. Lex Davison (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16, chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 10
4. Jim Russell (British Racing Partnership) - Cooper T45 chassis 3, BRM P26 engine 5
5. Honoré Wagner (Honoré Wagner) - Lotus 12 chassis 2, OSCA 1558 engine 11
6. Carel Godin de Beaufort (Ecurie Maarsbergen) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 12, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 3
7. Roy Salvadori (Vandervell Products Ltd.) - Vanwall VW58 chassis 1, Vanwall VE2 engine 5
8. Bruce McLaren (Cooper Car Company) - Cooper T45 chassis 1, Climax FPF V engine 1
9. Peter Collins (Cooper Car Company) - Cooper T45 chassis 2, Climax FPF V engine 2
10. Robert la Caze* (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 6
11. André Simon (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 5
12. Fernand Tavano (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 7
13. Jack Brabham (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 1, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 1
14. John Surtees (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 2, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 2
15. Stirling Moss (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 3, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 3
16. Jo Bonnier (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 1, Ferrari 143 engine 1
17. Phil Hill (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 2, Ferrari 143 engine 4
18. Gerino Gerini (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 4, Ferrari 143 engine 5
19. Stuart Lewis-Evans (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 12 chassis 5, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 4
20. Dan Gurney (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 12 chassis 6, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 6
21. Troy Ruttman (Owen Racing Organisation) - Lotus 12 chassis 4, B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 2
22. Mike Parkes (David Fry) - Fry F2 chassis 1, Borgward 1500 RS engine 1*
23. Wolfgang von Trips (Scuderia Centro-Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 10, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 14
24. Consalvo Sanesi (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 1
25. Hernando da Silva Ramos (Officine Secializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 1
26. José Froilán González (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 2
27. Graham Hill (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 3
28. Henry Taylor (Hampshire Racing Alliance) - Vanwall VW58 chassis 2, Vanwall VE2 engine 6
29. Peter Ashdown* (Hampshire Racing Alliance) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 16, Vanwall VE2 engine 2
30. Rob Slotemaker (Rob Slotemaker) - Cooper T45 chassis 5, Climax FPV IV engine 4
31. Jean Lucienbonnet (Jean Lucienbonnet) - BRM P25 chassis 2, BRM P26 engine 2*
32. Bernard Collomb (Bernard Collomb) - BRM P25 chassis 1, BRM P26 engine 1*
33. Alain de Changy (Alain de Changy) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 1, Gordini G258/A engine 1*
34. Jean-Claude Vidilles (Jean-Claude Vidilles) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 3, Gordini G258/A engine 2*
35. "Romain" ("Romain") - Gordini Type 56 chassis 4, Gordini G258/A engine 3*
36. Alain Dagan (Alain Dagan) - Fry F2 chassis 2, Borgward 1500 RS engine 2
*pending checks
You have until Sunday, July 28th at noon CET to enter!
kevinbotz wrote:Cantonese is a completely nonsensical f*cking alien language masquerading as some grossly bastardised form of Chinese
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Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
Team Lotus
Masten Gregory - Lotus 16 chassis 1 | OSCA 1559 engine 8
Alan Stacey - Lotus 16 chassis 2 | OSCA 1559 engine 9
Lex Davison - Lotus 16 chassis 3 | OSCA 1559 engine 10
Jim Clark will also be invited to travel with the team, but will not be entered into this Grand Prix.
- Jim Russell - Cooper T45 chassis 3 | BRM P26 engine 5
we expect Jim Russell to return shortly, but will be sitting out a race to recover after his incident at the previous round
Honoré Wagner - Lotus 12 chassis 2 | OSCA 1558 engine 11
equipment loaned from Lotus
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Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
Carel Godin De Beaufort will enter with the material he's got for Ecurie Maarsbergen.
I don't know what i want and i want it now!
Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
Vandervell Products Ltd. shall enter with the same equipment and driver as the Monaco GP.
Eurosport broadcast for the 1990 Mexican GP prequalifying:
"The Life, it looked very lifeless yet again... in fact Bruno did one, slow lap"
"The Life, it looked very lifeless yet again... in fact Bruno did one, slow lap"
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Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
Cooper will enter the French GP with Peter Collins and Bruce McLaren, with the same setup as in Monaco
Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
Voeckler will repair the damaged vehicles. We will keep the same plans as before, except at this race we will enter Robert La Caze for the next race in the place of the injured Trintignant - who we wish well in his recovery.
Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
For the French Grand Prix, B.C.M.A. will submit the following entries:
Jack Brabham - P.1101 1, Pegasus 1
John Surtees - P.1101 2, Pegasus 2
Stirling Moss - P.1101 3, Pegasus 3
Jack Brabham - P.1101 1, Pegasus 1
John Surtees - P.1101 2, Pegasus 2
Stirling Moss - P.1101 3, Pegasus 3
Klon, on Alt-F1 wrote: I like to think it's more poker than gambling, though.
Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
Ferrari will repair Phil Hill's 246 chassis 2.
We will bring three cars into France:
27. Jo Bonnier (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 1, Ferrari 143 engine 1
28. Phil Hill (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 2, Ferrari 143 engine 4
29. Gerino Gerini (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 4, Ferrari 143 engine 5
We will bring three cars into France:
27. Jo Bonnier (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 1, Ferrari 143 engine 1
28. Phil Hill (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 2, Ferrari 143 engine 4
29. Gerino Gerini (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 4, Ferrari 143 engine 5
Mario on Gutierrez after the Italian Grand Prix wrote:He's no longer just a bit of a tool, he's the entire tool set.
18-07-2015: Forever in our hearts Jules.
25-08-2015: Forever in our hearts Justin.
Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
Rob Walker Racing
Stuart Lewis-Evans - Lotus 12 chassis 5, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 4
Dan Gurney - Lotus 12 chassis 6, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 6
Owen Racing Organisation
Troy Ruttman - Lotus 12 chassis 4, B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 2
Stuart Lewis-Evans - Lotus 12 chassis 5, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 4
Dan Gurney - Lotus 12 chassis 6, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 6
Owen Racing Organisation
Troy Ruttman - Lotus 12 chassis 4, B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 2
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Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
IF there are less entries than grid spots, Fry will enter with their F2 car and Mike Parkes. If there are sufficient entries, they will not leave England.
Fry is still looking for a Cheap - preferrably British - engine. If we can't find one, we'll build a Borgward engine for 10K.
Fry is still looking for a Cheap - preferrably British - engine. If we can't find one, we'll build a Borgward engine for 10K.
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I don't know what i want and i want it now!
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Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
Scuderia Centro Sud entries:
Wolfgang von Trips (Scuderia Centro-Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 10, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 14 (leased from O.S.C.A.)
Consalvo Sanesi (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 1 (leased from O.S.C.A.)
The chassis - engine combinations are identical to the ones leased to us prior from O.S.C.A. - if pi wishes to change this, that is fine by me
Wolfgang von Trips (Scuderia Centro-Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 10, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 14 (leased from O.S.C.A.)
Consalvo Sanesi (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 1 (leased from O.S.C.A.)
The chassis - engine combinations are identical to the ones leased to us prior from O.S.C.A. - if pi wishes to change this, that is fine by me
Klon wrote:more liek Nick Ass-idy amirite?
Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
O.S.C.A. will enter the regular lineup of cars for the French Grand Prix. The team shall carry out the necessary repairs to Hill's chassis.
Hernando da Silva Ramos (Officine Secializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 1
José Froilán González (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 2
Graham Hill (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 3
Hernando da Silva Ramos (Officine Secializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 1
José Froilán González (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 2
Graham Hill (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 3
pasta_maldonado wrote:The stewards have recommended that Alan Jones learns to drive.
Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
Hampshire Racing Alliance will enter the following:
Henry Taylor - Vanwall VW58 chassis 2, Vanwall VE2 engine 6
Peter Ashdown - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 16, Vanwall VE2 engine 2
We continue to hope Mike Taylor's career fizzles out and he ends up in a South Wales coal mine.
Henry Taylor - Vanwall VW58 chassis 2, Vanwall VE2 engine 6
Peter Ashdown - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 16, Vanwall VE2 engine 2
We continue to hope Mike Taylor's career fizzles out and he ends up in a South Wales coal mine.
Fetzie on Ferrari wrote:How does a driver hurtling around a race track while they're sous-viding in their overalls have a better understanding of the race than a team of strategy engineers in an air-conditioned room?l
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Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
(With permission from Nessafox) Firstly, Rob Slotemaker will borrow a car from Reg Parnell for the French GP. He will pay for all repairs and transport.
Cooper T45 5 - Climax FPV IV 4
The following privateers will attempt to enter the French GP, renting vehicles, if Formula 2 vehicles are allowed. Any cars used will have repair costs taken care of:
Jean Lucienbonnet (BRM P25 2 - BRM P26 2)
-Borrowed from BRM (V8fan12)
Alain Dagan (DB Junior - Panhard) (F2 car)
Bernard Collomb (BRM P25 1 - BRM P26 1)
-Borrowed from BRM (V8fan12)
Alain de Changy (Gordini Type 56 1 - G258/A 1)
-Borrowed from Voeckler (Pinkd)
Pierre Mulsant (DB Junior - Panhard) (F2 car)
Philippe Martel (DB Monomil - Panhard) (F2 car)
Jean-Claude Vidilles (Gordini Type 56 3 - G258/A 2)
-Borrowed from Voeckler (Pinkd)
"Romain" (Gordini Type 56 4 - G258/A 3)
-Borrowed from Voeckler (Pinkd)
Cooper T45 5 - Climax FPV IV 4
The following privateers will attempt to enter the French GP, renting vehicles, if Formula 2 vehicles are allowed. Any cars used will have repair costs taken care of:
Jean Lucienbonnet (BRM P25 2 - BRM P26 2)
-Borrowed from BRM (V8fan12)
Alain Dagan (DB Junior - Panhard) (F2 car)
Bernard Collomb (BRM P25 1 - BRM P26 1)
-Borrowed from BRM (V8fan12)
Alain de Changy (Gordini Type 56 1 - G258/A 1)
-Borrowed from Voeckler (Pinkd)
Pierre Mulsant (DB Junior - Panhard) (F2 car)
Philippe Martel (DB Monomil - Panhard) (F2 car)
Jean-Claude Vidilles (Gordini Type 56 3 - G258/A 2)
-Borrowed from Voeckler (Pinkd)
"Romain" (Gordini Type 56 4 - G258/A 3)
-Borrowed from Voeckler (Pinkd)
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Klon wrote:What did poor André do to you for him to be insulted like that?
Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
So i'll construct a F2 Borgward engine of 10K design cost and 2,5K build cost. In co-operation with Fry. Though if others want to put the engine in their F2 car, that is absolutely allowed for a fair price of *to be negotiated*
We'll build 2 Borgward engines, and build a second Fry Chassis. We will loan the second car to a local privateer.
We'll build 2 Borgward engines, and build a second Fry Chassis. We will loan the second car to a local privateer.
I don't know what i want and i want it now!
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Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
(With permission from Nessafox) After his F2 entry was rejected, Alain Dugan makes an 11th hour deal to rent David Fry's ready car for the French GP:
Alain Dugan
Fry F2 2 - Borgward F2 2
Alain Dugan
Fry F2 2 - Borgward F2 2
Klon wrote:What did poor André do to you for him to be insulted like that?
Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
Lotus has decided to scrap the heavily damaged Lotus 12, chassis 3
Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
Olivier Gendebien has been loaned out from Team Lotus to Owen Racing Organisation for (at least) the Dutch and Belgian Grands Prix.
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1-85: accepts the Voeckler offer to replace Maurice Trintignant
86-100: prefers to remain a staunch privateer
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Robert la Caze - 42 - MAR
Formula 1
2 entries
0 starts
Sportscars
Winner of the 1951 Tangiers GP (1.6l class)
Winner of the 1952, 1953 and 1955 Agadir GP (1.0l class)
Winner of the 1953 Safi 3 hours
Winner of the 1954 Marrakesh GP (1.5l class and 1.0l class)
3rd at the 1952 12 hours of Casablanca (with Georges de Tudert)
Rallying
8th in the 1954 Rallye du Maroc
1-90: supplements his Lola sportscar outings with an F1 début at Hampshire
91-100: focuses on sportscars for now
90
Peter Ashdown - 24 - GBR
Formula 1
Did not finish the 1959 Aintree 200
Sportscars
Winner of the 1957 Kanonloppet (S2.0 class)
7 wins and 33 podiums in British national sportscar races
Jean Lucienbonnet - 36 - FRA
Formula 1
Nothing
Sportscars
5th in the 1952 12 hours of Hyères (with François Picard)
7th in the 1957 90 minutes of Forez
8th in the 1955 Bol d'Or (with Raymond Stempert, 1st in S750 class)
Bernard Collomb's entry has been turned down due to a lack of four-wheel experience
Alain de Changy - 37 - BEL
Formula 1
1 entry
0 starts
Sportscars
2nd place at the 1958 Angola Grand Prix
4th place in the 1956 Rouen Grand Prix (S1.5 class)
4th place in the 1957 Portuguese Grand Prix
5th place in the 1957 Swedish Grand Prix (with Claude Dubois)
6th place in the 1958 24 Hours of Le Mans (with Jean Beurlys)
Jean-Claude Vidilles - 29 - FRA
Formula 1
Retired from the 1955 Syracuse Grand Prix
Sportscars
Winner of the 1952 Montauban race (S750 class)
Winner of the 1957 Caen race (GT750 class)
Winner of the 1958 3 Hours of Pau (with Hernando da Silva Ramos)
Winner of the 1958 Prix de Paris (GT3.5+S1.0 class)
6th place in the 1956 Tour de France automobile (with Harry Schell)
9th place in the 1956 12 Hours of Reims (with Jean Guichet)
11th place in the 1956 24 Hours of Le Mans (with Jean Thépenier)
16th place in the 1955 Mille Miglia (with Hernando da Silva Ramos)
The entry of "Romain" (who appears to be a pseudonym of Belgian driver Jean Romain) has been turned down due to a lack of experience. However, he is welcome to enter the Belgian Grand Prix.
Alain Dagan - 29 - FRA
Formula 1
Nothing
Formula Junior
Winner of the 1959 Prix de Paris
2nd place in the 1958 Coupe du Salon
8th place in the 1959 Monaco Grand Prix support race
Others
Winner of the 1955 and 1956 Bols d'Or (175cc class)
1956 and 1957 French Side-car champion (with Jean Murit)
86-100: prefers to remain a staunch privateer
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Robert la Caze - 42 - MAR
Formula 1
2 entries
0 starts
Sportscars
Winner of the 1951 Tangiers GP (1.6l class)
Winner of the 1952, 1953 and 1955 Agadir GP (1.0l class)
Winner of the 1953 Safi 3 hours
Winner of the 1954 Marrakesh GP (1.5l class and 1.0l class)
3rd at the 1952 12 hours of Casablanca (with Georges de Tudert)
Rallying
8th in the 1954 Rallye du Maroc
1-90: supplements his Lola sportscar outings with an F1 début at Hampshire
91-100: focuses on sportscars for now
90
Peter Ashdown - 24 - GBR
Formula 1
Did not finish the 1959 Aintree 200
Sportscars
Winner of the 1957 Kanonloppet (S2.0 class)
7 wins and 33 podiums in British national sportscar races
Jean Lucienbonnet - 36 - FRA
Formula 1
Nothing
Sportscars
5th in the 1952 12 hours of Hyères (with François Picard)
7th in the 1957 90 minutes of Forez
8th in the 1955 Bol d'Or (with Raymond Stempert, 1st in S750 class)
Bernard Collomb's entry has been turned down due to a lack of four-wheel experience
Alain de Changy - 37 - BEL
Formula 1
1 entry
0 starts
Sportscars
2nd place at the 1958 Angola Grand Prix
4th place in the 1956 Rouen Grand Prix (S1.5 class)
4th place in the 1957 Portuguese Grand Prix
5th place in the 1957 Swedish Grand Prix (with Claude Dubois)
6th place in the 1958 24 Hours of Le Mans (with Jean Beurlys)
Jean-Claude Vidilles - 29 - FRA
Formula 1
Retired from the 1955 Syracuse Grand Prix
Sportscars
Winner of the 1952 Montauban race (S750 class)
Winner of the 1957 Caen race (GT750 class)
Winner of the 1958 3 Hours of Pau (with Hernando da Silva Ramos)
Winner of the 1958 Prix de Paris (GT3.5+S1.0 class)
6th place in the 1956 Tour de France automobile (with Harry Schell)
9th place in the 1956 12 Hours of Reims (with Jean Guichet)
11th place in the 1956 24 Hours of Le Mans (with Jean Thépenier)
16th place in the 1955 Mille Miglia (with Hernando da Silva Ramos)
The entry of "Romain" (who appears to be a pseudonym of Belgian driver Jean Romain) has been turned down due to a lack of experience. However, he is welcome to enter the Belgian Grand Prix.
Alain Dagan - 29 - FRA
Formula 1
Nothing
Formula Junior
Winner of the 1959 Prix de Paris
2nd place in the 1958 Coupe du Salon
8th place in the 1959 Monaco Grand Prix support race
Others
Winner of the 1955 and 1956 Bols d'Or (175cc class)
1956 and 1957 French Side-car champion (with Jean Murit)
kevinbotz wrote:Cantonese is a completely nonsensical f*cking alien language masquerading as some grossly bastardised form of Chinese
Gonzo wrote:Wasn't there some sort of communisim in the East part of Germany?
Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
It is indeed Borgward engine 1 that Fry will use for its works car.
I don't know what i want and i want it now!
Re: Alt-1959: Enter France!
May 16th 1959, French Grand Prix qualifying
2. Masten Gregory (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 8
4. Alan Stacey (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 9
6. Lex Davison (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16, chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 10
8. Jim Russell (British Racing Partnership) - Cooper T45 chassis 3, BRM P26 engine 5
10. Honoré Wagner (Honoré Wagner) - Lotus 12 chassis 2, OSCA 1558 engine 11
12. Carel Godin de Beaufort (Ecurie Maarsbergen) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 12, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 3
14. Roy Salvadori (Vandervell Products Ltd.) - Vanwall VW58 chassis 1, Vanwall VE2 engine 5
16. Bruce McLaren (Cooper Car Company) - Cooper T45 chassis 1, Climax FPF V engine 1
18. Peter Collins (Cooper Car Company) - Cooper T45 chassis 2, Climax FPF V engine 2
20. Robert la Caze (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 6
22. André Simon (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 5
24. Fernand Tavano (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 7
26. Jack Brabham (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 1, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 1
28. John Surtees (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 2, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 2
30. Stirling Moss (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 3, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 3
32. Jo Bonnier (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 1, Ferrari 143 engine 1
34. Phil Hill (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 2, Ferrari 143 engine 4
36. Gerino Gerini (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 4, Ferrari 143 engine 5
38. Stuart Lewis-Evans (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 12 chassis 5, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 4
40. Dan Gurney (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 12 chassis 6, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 6
42. Troy Ruttman (Owen Racing Organisation) - Lotus 12 chassis 4, B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 2
44. Mike Parkes (David Fry) - Fry F2 chassis 1, Borgward 1500 RS engine 1
46. Wolfgang von Trips (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 10, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 14
48. Consalvo Sanesi (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 1
50. Hernando da Silva Ramos (Officine Secializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 1
52. José Froilán González (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 2
54. Graham Hill (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 3
56. Henry Taylor (Hampshire Racing Alliance) - Vanwall VW58 chassis 2, Vanwall VE2 engine 6
58. Peter Ashdown (Hampshire Racing Alliance) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 16, Vanwall VE2 engine 2
60. Rob Slotemaker (Rob Slotemaker) - Cooper T45 chassis 5, Climax FPV IV engine 4
62. Jean Lucienbonnet (Jean Lucienbonnet) - BRM P25 chassis 2, BRM P26 engine 2
64. Bernard Collomb (Bernard Collomb) - BRM P25 chassis 1, BRM P26 engine 1*
66. Alain de Changy (Alain de Changy) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 1, Gordini G258/A engine 1
68. Jean-Claude Vidilles (Jean-Claude Vidilles) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 3, Gordini G258/A engine 2
70. "Romain" ("Romain") - Gordini Type 56 chassis 4, Gordini G258/A engine 3*
72. Alain Dagan (Alain Dagan) - Fry F2 chassis 2, Borgward 1500 RS engine 2
* Entry denied due to lack of experience
2. Masten Gregory (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 8
4. Alan Stacey (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 9
6. Lex Davison (Team Lotus) - Lotus 16, chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 10
8. Jim Russell (British Racing Partnership) - Cooper T45 chassis 3, BRM P26 engine 5
10. Honoré Wagner (Honoré Wagner) - Lotus 12 chassis 2, OSCA 1558 engine 11
12. Carel Godin de Beaufort (Ecurie Maarsbergen) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 12, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 3
14. Roy Salvadori (Vandervell Products Ltd.) - Vanwall VW58 chassis 1, Vanwall VE2 engine 5
16. Bruce McLaren (Cooper Car Company) - Cooper T45 chassis 1, Climax FPF V engine 1
18. Peter Collins (Cooper Car Company) - Cooper T45 chassis 2, Climax FPF V engine 2
20. Robert la Caze (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 6
22. André Simon (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 5
24. Fernand Tavano (Ecurie Voeckler) - Voeckler Type 57 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 7
26. Jack Brabham (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 1, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 1
28. John Surtees (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 2, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 2
30. Stirling Moss (British Commonwealth Motorsport Association) - B.C.M.A. P.1101 chassis 3, B.C.M.A. Pegasus engine 3
32. Jo Bonnier (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 1, Ferrari 143 engine 1
34. Phil Hill (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 2, Ferrari 143 engine 4
36. Gerino Gerini (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 246 chassis 4, Ferrari 143 engine 5
38. Stuart Lewis-Evans (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 12 chassis 5, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 4
40. Dan Gurney (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 12 chassis 6, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 6
42. Troy Ruttman (Owen Racing Organisation) - Lotus 12 chassis 4, B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 2
44. Mike Parkes (David Fry) - Fry F2 chassis 1, Borgward 1500 RS engine 1
46. Wolfgang von Trips (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 10, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 14
48. Consalvo Sanesi (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F158 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1558 engine 1
50. Hernando da Silva Ramos (Officine Secializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 1
52. José Froilán González (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 2
54. Graham Hill (Officine Specializzate Costruzione Automobili) - O.S.C.A. F159 chassis 3, O.S.C.A. 659 engine 3
56. Henry Taylor (Hampshire Racing Alliance) - Vanwall VW58 chassis 2, Vanwall VE2 engine 6
58. Peter Ashdown (Hampshire Racing Alliance) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 16, Vanwall VE2 engine 2
60. Rob Slotemaker (Rob Slotemaker) - Cooper T45 chassis 5, Climax FPV IV engine 4
62. Jean Lucienbonnet (Jean Lucienbonnet) - BRM P25 chassis 2, BRM P26 engine 2
64. Bernard Collomb (Bernard Collomb) - BRM P25 chassis 1, BRM P26 engine 1*
66. Alain de Changy (Alain de Changy) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 1, Gordini G258/A engine 1
68. Jean-Claude Vidilles (Jean-Claude Vidilles) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 3, Gordini G258/A engine 2
70. "Romain" ("Romain") - Gordini Type 56 chassis 4, Gordini G258/A engine 3*
72. Alain Dagan (Alain Dagan) - Fry F2 chassis 2, Borgward 1500 RS engine 2
* Entry denied due to lack of experience
- Following an ignominious DNQ in Monaco, Olivier Gendebien has been dropped from the Lotus roster and traded with Owen for Alan Stacey while Davison and Gregory stay on.
- British Racing Partnership have repaired the Cooper-BRM and Jim Russell's Monaco injury proved light enough to be cleared to race a week later.
- Honoré Wagner was slowest in qualifying in Monaco, but is guaranteed to make this grid, especially with the F2 machinery present.
- Rob Slotemaker also failed to qualify the 1956 O.S.C.A., prompting Maarsbergen team boss de Beaufort to take over himself in France. Slotemaker will instead enter a rented Cooper-Climax in Montlhéry.
- Salvadori's race ended before his strategy could come to fruition, but with a smaller field at the front than in 1958, he and Vanwall could profit from unreliability.
- Caught in the midfield scrap, Collins and McLaren could only muster a 6-7 finish for Cooper. Will a faster track suit them better?
- Maurice Trintignant wasn't as lucky as Russell in their accident, where he broke his arm and got ruled out for the rest of the year. Voeckler reacted by snapping up Robert la Caze, a French emigré in Morocco who entered a couple of races last season.
- The new B.C.M.A. P.1101 is evidently as high-born as its predecessors, threatening a 1-2-3 on début. They'll keep being a credible threat all season, and let's not forget they won this race in 1957 and 1958, with 1956 being won by Brabham as well.
- Last year's Ferrari is only barely showing signs of age, but the line-up is evidently limited. Gerini stuck it out for his first points with fourth, but they need a more proper kick-start to their season here.
- Dan Gurney surprised by outqualifying Walker teammate Lewis-Evans last time, and was close to the finish. It'll be hard to emulate González's heroics this year, but there's some good results for the taking without a doubt.
- With Stacey Lotus-bound, Alfred Owen preferred to revert to a single-car entry in France for Troy Ruttman.
- After much discussion in Motor Sport and Autosport magazines, David Fry's F2 car finally arrives on the F1 stage, powered by a Borgward engine and driven by Mike Parkes. They've also loaned a second car to French bike racer-turned-Formula Junior man Alain Dagan, who won here last month.
- Scuderia Centro Sud can hardly do worse than their dismal double-DNQ in Monaco here. Sanesi is an old man now, but von Trips can do better.
- O.S.C.A.'s race was ended 15 laps into Monaco, but they remain in an equal lead in all championships. They need to hope that batch of unreliability was an exception rather than the rule.
- David Hampshire was too blindsided by Mike Taylor's snub before Monaco to get a second driver, but after intense negotiations, the 1956 O.S.C.A. will now be driven by rookie sportscar ace Peter Ashdown.
- The usual retinue of local chancers has not disappointed. Aside from Dagan in the Fry-Borgward, we have local sportscar journeyman Jean Lucienbonnet in a 1956 car dug out of BRM's shed, while Voeckler made their back catalogue available to Alain de Changy and Jean-Claude Vidilles.
- Bernard Collomb and Jean Romain also both entered the race in a BRM and Gordini respectively, but their entries were ultimately turned down due to lack of experience.
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