After seeing this -
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QOZuAiJGq88
and this -
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9L0sWH8C9hA
F2/GP2/F3000 Rejects
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Loadsamoney
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Re: F2/GP2/F3000 Rejects
As PHM’s only real fan in maybe the world, Niels Koolen is a plague in my eyes. The GPR in me loves him, but why did he have to sign for the ones I support 
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Har1MAS1415
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Re: F2/GP2/F3000 Rejects
Well, when you get described as being even worse than the likes of Mahaveer Raghunathan....Loadsamoney wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 10:34 As PHM’s only real fan in maybe the world, Niels Koolen is a plague in my eyes. The GPR in me loves him, but why did he have to sign for the ones I support
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Re: F2/GP2/F3000 Rejects
In 1997 Nordic Racing took on an obscure, tattooed young Austrian named Mario Waltner for a couple of weekends. On both occasions he was a dozen seconds off the pace in qualifying on top of the usual character-building spins that one might expect from a driver with no experience in cars with that much horsepower. What's especially unusual about Waltner is that the only record of his racing career (at least on the internet) is those two F3000 appearances in 1997. Every other driver who has raced at that level has at least some searchable record of their career before or afterwards, but not Waltner. We don't even have a date of birth. Even the tight-lipped James Taylor has that minimum of biographical information and some evidence of an existence in racing outside the bounds of F3000.
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Har1MAS1415
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Re: F2/GP2/F3000 Rejects
Jean-Pierre Frey and his Dollop Racing team.
JPF never qualified in 19 attempts over the course of 1986 and 1987.
The team made it through once with Marcel Tarres at the 1986 Birmingham Super Prix but he lasted only 2 laps.
JPF never qualified in 19 attempts over the course of 1986 and 1987.
The team made it through once with Marcel Tarres at the 1986 Birmingham Super Prix but he lasted only 2 laps.
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Loadsamoney
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Re: F2/GP2/F3000 Rejects
I am bored, so here is a bit or writing of some guys from the early days of F3000 who I feel like talking about. The only constant will be the worst driver who entered every single race will be at least mentioned. As I’m typing this I don’t know how this’ll turn out so uhhhhh I’m sure I’ll figure it out 
- 1985 (F3000)
That’s a problem, there isnt many full series drivers this year (7). The worst of which being Mario Hytten. In the same year, he showed up at Le Mans with a couple South African blokes and would continue in F3000 for a couple years. He even ended up with a podium at Donington in this year, finishing second, so he ain’t even a reject.
In terms of proper rejects, the drivers who appeared most would be Juan Manuel Fangio II and Thierry Tassin, both with a best finish of 6th (the latter not really counting due to being decent in European Formula Two before this, but I’m ignoring that for now). Fangio II being a reject is a bit surprising, I remember hearing he was decent at the time, while Tassin showed up in BTCC 7 years before while he was only 19 but not enough to tease me into researching past a wikipedia scan.
Instead, I gave a look to Jean-Phillipe Grand, who failed to start at Pau and retired at Spa, leaving him the second worst driver in the standings with a position of nothing. Turns out, he qualified in last in Belgium and second to last in Pau, only being behind Guido Dacco of all people. In true reject fashion he spun on his only F3000 start.
Obvious highlight of his career would be a 2nd place at Most in the 1983 Interserie, leaving him in 13th at series end. He’d also go on to compete in the 24 hours of Le Mans in most years from 1980 to 1991, with a best overall finish of 12th in 1987 driving for Graff Racing, leaving him 6th in his class and worst of the classified finishers by a solid 10 laps. He’s probably still alive.
- 1986
Now we’re talking. Keeping with the Jean’s, Jean-Pierre Frey failed to qualify for every single race this year. I’m not writing this in GPR, so if I can’t be bothered to quote the message who I learnt this from just know that this inspired me to try this in the first place. Consistently so off of the pace that it amazes me he kept going for another half year after this. Aldo Bertuzzi appears to be his closest rival in this regard, which makes sense considering they were teammates for a few races (he also raced for Minardi in 1986 and First Racing in 1987).
He decided to pair this with a few dismal performances in CART and prototypes before giving up in 1989. What kind of name is Equipe Dollop anyways? Quick mentions to Jani Nurminen, Steven Andskar and Gianfranco Taccino.
- 1987
The Dollop King himself returned for 87, and continued his DNQ streak, which might amount to a record? I can’t be bothered to count, I’m sure somebody already has. Makes sense, then, to give this spot to a driver who entered the same races as Frey except the Imola one with equal results, Robert Lee-Lewis. At least he appears to have been a faster driver than Frey at qualifying. This Welsh lad seems to have only appeared briefly elsewhere in the 1989 British F3000 championship, in which he only raced once (and apparently Irish F1600).
An old forum (10 tenths motorsport, idk if that’s a throwback for any of you) thread, originally about Mark Galvin, seems like the story is he had sponsorship from “Brother” which apparently was some tech company. Showed some potential, but leaped straight for F1600 to F3000, and that seemed to be too much. A post from Mark Galvin himself, cause yeah he was on the forum I guess, basically saying Lee-Lewis’s stint was a low budget affair with his dad apparently being the main sponsor.
There’s not much else to find on him really. He apparently went to Eddie Jordan for a seat who told him to come back when he had funding, and would die on Christmas Eve 2021.
- 1988
Russell Spence and Fernando Croceri are my picks for this year. Spence, as it turns out, was a decent hand in British F3, coming 3rd in both 1984 and 1985, picking up 7 wins in these years. Hell, he just generally seemed to be a driver with decent potential, potential which gave him two podiums to end off his 1987 F3000 season ahead of some good names.
Spence’s 1988 season can be summarised by saying he finished one race after entering all of them. Sometimes he showed potential, qualifying 5th at the BRDC trophy only for his supension to give out on him halfway through. I’m not really sure what happened at Pergusa, but he failed to start due to an accident, which really doesn’t do him any favours. Most of his DNFs were Spence going for a spin or hitting a wall. Or, whatever happened when he went to Birmingham.
The 1988 Birmingham Superprix may or may not have been a farce due to a nice spin from Volker Weidler, with the front pack far ahead of the rest of the field, split fairly down the middle. Russell didn’t take particularly kindly to this, and after being spun later that same lap decided to block the track and plant his foot on the brake to prevent his car from being removed by the marshalls. In the end, the crane just picked the car up with him still inside, so he decided that was a pretty good time to stop making a stand.
From 1989 to 1991 he didn’t exist, but in 1992, he just sorta showed up in the Atlantic Championship, which. I believe is sort of what Indy NXT is today. Continuing to show potential, he finished 4th with 3 wins (one of them being on him debut). This didn’t really go anywhere though. Then after taking another 6 year break he ended up in BTCC in 1999 for some bloody reason. He was shite and got sacked for Will Hoy and left for good.
Fernando Croceri is maybe most well known for winning the 1993 F3 Sudamericana championship over drivers such as Helio Castroneves and Tarso Marques, as well as the 1997 Turismo Internacional championship. I don’t know if I should know what that is, I’m on Spanish wikipedia and I can’t be bothered to change back. It seems like he just sort of spawned in for F3000, not much else to say.
- 1989
This is the part where I realise I’m getting longer each write up. No worries, we have Pedro Chaves to discuss.
Looking at these results, it is no surprise the only reason he made it to F1 was his money. Even then, he had the gall to walk out on Coloni mid season. He was meant to go to Leyton House in 1992, but his money didn’t get there in time so Karl Wendlinger took his spot. Overall his F1/F3000 exploits seem rather uninteresting and rather well known, so instead I shall talk about his Spanish Touring Car Championship attempt in 1996.
Ok, attempt is being a bit unfair, he was pretty good. 2nd place in his only year. He was a thoroughly decent touring car driver who could’ve potentially done decently I guess. Third place was Luis Perez-Sala and it was won by Jordi Gene. As a whole, that championship was a vibe, Eric van de Poele in 5th, Fabrizio Giovanardi in 6th with half a season, Yvan Muller failing to finish a race, a man named Josep Bassas.
A1GP exploits happened too, being the driver coach for Lebanon in 2006 and managing Portugal to 3rd with Filipe Albuquerque in 2008-09. He also won the Portuguese Rally Championship in 1999 and 2000, with appearances in WRC at the Rally Portugal from 1998 to 2001 (and one in 1993).
Dominique Delestre was sort of interesting I guess. He spent a couple of years being alright in French F3 (9th in 1984, 5th in 1985) before occasionally up for the 1986 BRDC Trophy. Unfortunately, he would be injured in a crash with a slow Thierry Tassin, leaving him injured until 1989 but still apparently racing in 1987 but not 1988, so maybe my sources are wrong or I am stupid.
Either way, in 1989, Delestre was fairly hopeless for his own Apomatox team. After the first few races of failing to qualify once, he quit actively racing and instead focused on the managerial side. The team would be decently successful from 1989-1998, with 4 wins and whole lot of french drivers. Of course, the team would be bought by Prost GP and turned into Gauloises Junior, who kept the status quo of being very, very french.
Why did I do this I am not a bloody writer or journalist or whatever. I only went into this intending to write a couple notes on a few if them.
- 1985 (F3000)
That’s a problem, there isnt many full series drivers this year (7). The worst of which being Mario Hytten. In the same year, he showed up at Le Mans with a couple South African blokes and would continue in F3000 for a couple years. He even ended up with a podium at Donington in this year, finishing second, so he ain’t even a reject.
In terms of proper rejects, the drivers who appeared most would be Juan Manuel Fangio II and Thierry Tassin, both with a best finish of 6th (the latter not really counting due to being decent in European Formula Two before this, but I’m ignoring that for now). Fangio II being a reject is a bit surprising, I remember hearing he was decent at the time, while Tassin showed up in BTCC 7 years before while he was only 19 but not enough to tease me into researching past a wikipedia scan.
Instead, I gave a look to Jean-Phillipe Grand, who failed to start at Pau and retired at Spa, leaving him the second worst driver in the standings with a position of nothing. Turns out, he qualified in last in Belgium and second to last in Pau, only being behind Guido Dacco of all people. In true reject fashion he spun on his only F3000 start.
Obvious highlight of his career would be a 2nd place at Most in the 1983 Interserie, leaving him in 13th at series end. He’d also go on to compete in the 24 hours of Le Mans in most years from 1980 to 1991, with a best overall finish of 12th in 1987 driving for Graff Racing, leaving him 6th in his class and worst of the classified finishers by a solid 10 laps. He’s probably still alive.
- 1986
Now we’re talking. Keeping with the Jean’s, Jean-Pierre Frey failed to qualify for every single race this year. I’m not writing this in GPR, so if I can’t be bothered to quote the message who I learnt this from just know that this inspired me to try this in the first place. Consistently so off of the pace that it amazes me he kept going for another half year after this. Aldo Bertuzzi appears to be his closest rival in this regard, which makes sense considering they were teammates for a few races (he also raced for Minardi in 1986 and First Racing in 1987).
He decided to pair this with a few dismal performances in CART and prototypes before giving up in 1989. What kind of name is Equipe Dollop anyways? Quick mentions to Jani Nurminen, Steven Andskar and Gianfranco Taccino.
- 1987
The Dollop King himself returned for 87, and continued his DNQ streak, which might amount to a record? I can’t be bothered to count, I’m sure somebody already has. Makes sense, then, to give this spot to a driver who entered the same races as Frey except the Imola one with equal results, Robert Lee-Lewis. At least he appears to have been a faster driver than Frey at qualifying. This Welsh lad seems to have only appeared briefly elsewhere in the 1989 British F3000 championship, in which he only raced once (and apparently Irish F1600).
An old forum (10 tenths motorsport, idk if that’s a throwback for any of you) thread, originally about Mark Galvin, seems like the story is he had sponsorship from “Brother” which apparently was some tech company. Showed some potential, but leaped straight for F1600 to F3000, and that seemed to be too much. A post from Mark Galvin himself, cause yeah he was on the forum I guess, basically saying Lee-Lewis’s stint was a low budget affair with his dad apparently being the main sponsor.
There’s not much else to find on him really. He apparently went to Eddie Jordan for a seat who told him to come back when he had funding, and would die on Christmas Eve 2021.
- 1988
Russell Spence and Fernando Croceri are my picks for this year. Spence, as it turns out, was a decent hand in British F3, coming 3rd in both 1984 and 1985, picking up 7 wins in these years. Hell, he just generally seemed to be a driver with decent potential, potential which gave him two podiums to end off his 1987 F3000 season ahead of some good names.
Spence’s 1988 season can be summarised by saying he finished one race after entering all of them. Sometimes he showed potential, qualifying 5th at the BRDC trophy only for his supension to give out on him halfway through. I’m not really sure what happened at Pergusa, but he failed to start due to an accident, which really doesn’t do him any favours. Most of his DNFs were Spence going for a spin or hitting a wall. Or, whatever happened when he went to Birmingham.
The 1988 Birmingham Superprix may or may not have been a farce due to a nice spin from Volker Weidler, with the front pack far ahead of the rest of the field, split fairly down the middle. Russell didn’t take particularly kindly to this, and after being spun later that same lap decided to block the track and plant his foot on the brake to prevent his car from being removed by the marshalls. In the end, the crane just picked the car up with him still inside, so he decided that was a pretty good time to stop making a stand.
From 1989 to 1991 he didn’t exist, but in 1992, he just sorta showed up in the Atlantic Championship, which. I believe is sort of what Indy NXT is today. Continuing to show potential, he finished 4th with 3 wins (one of them being on him debut). This didn’t really go anywhere though. Then after taking another 6 year break he ended up in BTCC in 1999 for some bloody reason. He was shite and got sacked for Will Hoy and left for good.
Fernando Croceri is maybe most well known for winning the 1993 F3 Sudamericana championship over drivers such as Helio Castroneves and Tarso Marques, as well as the 1997 Turismo Internacional championship. I don’t know if I should know what that is, I’m on Spanish wikipedia and I can’t be bothered to change back. It seems like he just sort of spawned in for F3000, not much else to say.
- 1989
This is the part where I realise I’m getting longer each write up. No worries, we have Pedro Chaves to discuss.
Looking at these results, it is no surprise the only reason he made it to F1 was his money. Even then, he had the gall to walk out on Coloni mid season. He was meant to go to Leyton House in 1992, but his money didn’t get there in time so Karl Wendlinger took his spot. Overall his F1/F3000 exploits seem rather uninteresting and rather well known, so instead I shall talk about his Spanish Touring Car Championship attempt in 1996.
Ok, attempt is being a bit unfair, he was pretty good. 2nd place in his only year. He was a thoroughly decent touring car driver who could’ve potentially done decently I guess. Third place was Luis Perez-Sala and it was won by Jordi Gene. As a whole, that championship was a vibe, Eric van de Poele in 5th, Fabrizio Giovanardi in 6th with half a season, Yvan Muller failing to finish a race, a man named Josep Bassas.
A1GP exploits happened too, being the driver coach for Lebanon in 2006 and managing Portugal to 3rd with Filipe Albuquerque in 2008-09. He also won the Portuguese Rally Championship in 1999 and 2000, with appearances in WRC at the Rally Portugal from 1998 to 2001 (and one in 1993).
Dominique Delestre was sort of interesting I guess. He spent a couple of years being alright in French F3 (9th in 1984, 5th in 1985) before occasionally up for the 1986 BRDC Trophy. Unfortunately, he would be injured in a crash with a slow Thierry Tassin, leaving him injured until 1989 but still apparently racing in 1987 but not 1988, so maybe my sources are wrong or I am stupid.
Either way, in 1989, Delestre was fairly hopeless for his own Apomatox team. After the first few races of failing to qualify once, he quit actively racing and instead focused on the managerial side. The team would be decently successful from 1989-1998, with 4 wins and whole lot of french drivers. Of course, the team would be bought by Prost GP and turned into Gauloises Junior, who kept the status quo of being very, very french.
Why did I do this I am not a bloody writer or journalist or whatever. I only went into this intending to write a couple notes on a few if them.
Re: F2/GP2/F3000 Rejects
Is this JP Frey any relation to Rahel Frey, by any chance?Loadsamoney wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 21:10
- 1986
Now we’re talking. Keeping with the Jean’s, Jean-Pierre Frey failed to qualify for every single race this year. I’m not writing this in GPR, so if I can’t be bothered to quote the message who I learnt this from just know that this inspired me to try this in the first place. Consistently so off of the pace that it amazes me he kept going for another half year after this. Aldo Bertuzzi appears to be his closest rival in this regard, which makes sense considering they were teammates for a few races (he also raced for Minardi in 1986 and First Racing in 1987).
He decided to pair this with a few dismal performances in CART and prototypes before giving up in 1989. What kind of name is Equipe Dollop anyways? Quick mentions to Jani Nurminen, Steven Andskar and Gianfranco Taccino.
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Har1MAS1415
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Re: F2/GP2/F3000 Rejects
The Monte Carlo 001
Appeared only at Imola in 1986.
Could well be the Life L190 of Formula 3000 as Fulvio Ballabio qualified slowest of the 36 entrants with a time of nearly 3 minutes and 5 seconds.
Though it was based on the numerous failed Dywa projects.....
Appeared only at Imola in 1986.
Could well be the Life L190 of Formula 3000 as Fulvio Ballabio qualified slowest of the 36 entrants with a time of nearly 3 minutes and 5 seconds.
Though it was based on the numerous failed Dywa projects.....
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Har1MAS1415
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Re: F2/GP2/F3000 Rejects
Ricardo Teixeira
The most experienced GP2 Driver never to score a point.
As far as I can recall, the only one to rack up a DNQ.
The most experienced GP2 Driver never to score a point.
As far as I can recall, the only one to rack up a DNQ.
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Har1MAS1415
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Re: F2/GP2/F3000 Rejects
Chanoch Nissany briefly tried his luck in F3000 in 2004.
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Har1MAS1415
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Tommy Field would be a "Lucky Bastard" as he came 3rd in his only F3000 outing.
The one-off British F3000 race in 1997 at Brands Hatch where only three cars competed!
The one-off British F3000 race in 1997 at Brands Hatch where only three cars competed!
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Loadsamoney
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Re: F2/GP2/F3000 Rejects
Going off of current year, Rafael Villagomez will (unless he performs miracles in the last two rounds) come out of 2024 as the only reject, barring any F3 drivers who joined who have started in the last few rounds… and Niels Koolen. He’s got to bring in some money right? Cause otherwise, Caio Collet got sent to Indy Lights hell for nothing.
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Har1MAS1415
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Re: F2/GP2/F3000 Rejects
My mistake.Har1MAS1415 wrote: ↑06 Nov 2024, 11:35 Ricardo Teixeira
The most experienced GP2 Driver never to score a point.
As far as I can recall, the only one to rack up a DNQ.
Marcos Martínez DNQ'ed for the Hungary rounds in 2006 but he is a "Lucky Bastard" as he scored a 4th place at Valencia.
Re: F2/GP2/F3000 Rejects
I started following F3000 in 1999 and boy was that a season
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Har1MAS1415
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