Grand Prix Rejects

Nuppiz wrote:Both Finns on podium in GP3, I'm happy! Connor Daly also won the sprint race, there's one for the short list of American drivers who have a chance of getting into F1 in the next few years.

His dad was Derek Daly, who was an Irish driver in the 1970s-1980s. I think we might see Alexander Rossi in F1 first, but Daly probably has what it takes.

With regards the Finns, Vainio and Laine are no Bottas. I slated Laine a little in my season preview, and I keep spelling his name wrong (Matthias or Mathias, not Matias) so I feel a little silly now he's scored points in the first two races of the season.

The GP3 grid looks a little weak this year, I don't know how Cregan, Klasterka, Wartique, Jorda and Piria got there.

Okay, I know how Jorda and Piria got there

shinji wrote:

Nuppiz wrote: Connor Daly also won the sprint race, there's one for the short list of American drivers who have a chance of getting into F1 in the next few years.

Also as close as I can hope for an Irishman.

There's still time for a Ralph Firman comeback!

Captain Hammer wrote:Massively impressed by Tio Ellinas after that race. He got a grid penalty, then clawed back seven positions in sixteen laps.

What's what I thought as well.
Mind you that he's the first Cypriot driver to compete on an international level - and he's putting his country to no shame! I'm a declared fan

Pointrox wrote:Mind you that he's the first Cypriot driver to compete on an international level - and he's putting his country to no shame! I'm a declared fan

Wait, what? Now he has my interest.

I was born the same day as Vicky Piria...just sayin'.

Johnny Cecotto jr takes his first victory in Monaco feature race!

Bleu wrote:Johnny Cecotto jr takes his first victory in Monaco feature race!

I didn't realise there was any on-track action today. I thought Monaco Friday was a day off for all series...

Anyway, I'm tuning in for the GP3 race now, to put off packing to go home from uni (and doing my laundry...).

Just watched the GP3 race - why was the commentator always referring to Pal Kiss as Kiss Pal (I am sure I once even heard it as Piss Kal )? Plus, when a yellow came out in sector one, the commentator suggested it must be at La Source! There must be a good 800 - 1000 miles apart!

dr-baker wrote:Just watched the GP3 race - why was the commentator always referring to Pal Kiss as Kiss Pal (I am sure I once even heard it as Piss Kal )? Plus, when a yellow came out in sector one, the commentator suggested it must be at La Source! There must be a good 800 - 1000 miles apart!

He's using the Hungarian name order - http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_P%C3%A1l_Tam%C3%A1s

Pointrox wrote:

dr-baker wrote:Just watched the GP3 race - why was the commentator always referring to Pal Kiss as Kiss Pal (I am sure I once even heard it as Piss Kal )? Plus, when a yellow came out in sector one, the commentator suggested it must be at La Source! There must be a good 800 - 1000 miles apart!

He's using the Hungarian name order - http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_P%C3%A1l_Tam%C3%A1s

Ah, fair enough. Still, it did seem a bit odd when the name on the screen was the opposite way round to that which the commentator was saying.

Yeah, our name order is a bit messy, but I have to say, Kiss is doing a pretty damn job. Seems to be a LOT more talented than a certain HWNSNBM.

Shizuka wrote:Seems to be a LOT more talented than a certain HWNSNBM.

BLASPHAMY!

Extreme amateurism today in both series first this in GP2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCte8-m-Xqg

And then a driver without a front wing crashing into a driver without a rear wing, only to go airborne (no video yet) in GP3.

Surprised Calado kept going for as long as he did.

But Palmer got a good win, not something I ever thought was gonna happen.

Mister Fungus wrote:Extreme amateurism today in both series first this in GP2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCte8-m-Xqg

And then a driver without a front wing crashing into a driver without a rear wing, only to go airborne (no video yet) in GP3.

That was Connor Daly smashing into Seranovich.

Just seen the replay of the incident, my bloody God! He was launched into the catch fencing outside the tunnel, nearly flying over it, before crashing back down and spinning into the exit road next to the chicane. Monster impact, but he seems OK from it.

When they showed the whole monstrous Trulli train that Seranovich created, going into the tunnel it was really obvious something bad was going to happen. The weirdest thing was that he was defending like that without the rear wing for a few laps already.

kostas22 wrote:Seranovich defends like Schumacher, causing Daly to almost kill someone.

That is a massive crash! How Daly walked away uninjured beggars belief

Anyway, why did I see no black & orange flags for Seranovich?! Driving around Monaco with no rear downforce is just... Well, we just saw what can happen.

kostas22 wrote:Seranovich defends like Schumacher, causing Daly to almost kill someone.

When I spotted the loose wheel that came off Daly's car, I immediately thought of Henry Surtees' crash. Thankfully noone got hit, but that was way too close.
What an utter idiot Suranovich is!
On the other hand, Marlon Stockinger won his first race in GP3, and seldom you can see Filipino driver winning something. He certainly made good use of the mess.

Pointrox wrote:

kostas22 wrote:Seranovich defends like Schumacher, causing Daly to almost kill someone.

When I spotted the loose wheel that came off Daly's car, I immediately thought of Henry Surtees' crash. Thankfully noone got hit, but that was way too close.
What an utter idiot Suranovich is!

Yeah but you've got to remember, the point at which the Surtees incident happened the cars are accelerating and are doing over 100mph, whereas that is in a braking zone and one of the slowest points in the entire track. It could have caused injury no doubt, but it would take an extreme freak of nature for that wheel to have killed someone. I was more afraid of Daly just missing the catch fencing entirely and hitting whatever was behind it.

Didn't even flinch. That's dedicated marshalling.

Pointrox wrote:

kostas22 wrote:Seranovich defends like Schumacher, causing Daly to almost kill someone.

When I spotted the loose wheel that came off Daly's car, I immediately thought of Henry Surtees' crash. Thankfully noone got hit, but that was way too close.
What an utter idiot Suranovich is!
On the other hand, Marlon Stockinger won his first race in GP3, and seldom you can see Filipino driver winning something. He certainly made good use of the mess.

First major win for a Filipino since Jovy Marcelo?

According to first-account news, Suranovich went bathplugging nuts.

Marshals waved their hands off with black-orange flags for three laps but all he did was flipping off the chief steward.
Things get more spicy - apparently Dmitry was sacked with immediate effect.

Pointrox wrote:According to first-account news, Suranovich went bathplugging nuts.

Marshals waved their hands off with black-orange flags for three laps but all he did was flipping off the chief steward.
Things get more spicy - apparently Dmitry was sacked with immediate effect.

Bloody hell! This makes Lewis Hamilton's performance last year in Monaco seem professional!

East Londoner wrote:Bloody hell! This makes Rene Arnoux's performance 23 years ago in Monaco seem professional!

Fixed

Sounds like this Suranovich lad should be kicked out of the championship for good. I didn't think anyone could do worse in this regard than Schumacher, but apparently I was wrong...

redbulljack14 wrote:

East Londoner wrote:Bloody hell! This makes Jean-Pierre Jarier's performance 29 years ago in Austria seem professional!

Fixed

Pointrox wrote:

redbulljack14 wrote:

East Londoner wrote:Bloody hell! This makes Jean-Pierre Jarier's performance 29 years ago in Austria seem professional!

Fixed

You win!

Pointrox wrote:According to first-account news, Suranovich went bathplugging nuts.

Marshals waved their hands off with black-orange flags for three laps but all he did was flipping off the chief steward.
Things get more spicy - apparently Dmitry was sacked with immediate effect.

Unlike Will Power, Suranovich had only himself to blame for being worse than 10 Yuji Ides with a side helping of Jean-Pierre Jarier on track.

Suranovich is a goddamn disgrace to the sport. Good riddance, I say, that was on par with Jerezgate and Hungary 2010, in my opinion.

Pointrox wrote:According to first-account news, Suranovich went bathplugging nuts.

Marshals waved their hands off with black-orange flags for three laps but all he did was flipping off the chief steward.
Things get more spicy - apparently Dmitry was sacked with immediate effect.

Christ what a bathplug moron. What was he hoping to achieve still racing with no rear-wing anyway.

That GP3 crash really did scare me when I saw it live. How nobody got injured, God only knows. And insulting the stewarts? Not even Lewis Hamilton has been known to do that... to their faces

Oh and I just saw that GP2 crash for the first time - Spa 1998?

Mister Fungus wrote:Extreme amateurism today in both series first this in GP2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCte8-m-Xqg

Funny thing is the GP3 guys have been much better behaved off the startline all weekend

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Suranovich is a goddamn disgrace to the sport. Good riddance, I say, that was on par with Jerezgate and Hungary 2010, in my opinion.

I know, damn kids these days have no common sense.

I'm about 2 and a half years older, so i'm not a kid.

Pointrox wrote:According to first-account news, Suranovich went bathplugging nuts.

Marshals waved their hands off with black-orange flags for three laps but all he did was flipping off the chief steward.
Things get more spicy - apparently Dmitry was sacked with immediate effect.

If he has been fired, it would serve him right for being such a reckless driver and overly hot headed to boot. It's certainly a harsher penalty than the FIA have been willing to give (they have now excluded Suranovich from the results of that race, but seem to be taking no further action at the moment http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99922 ).

Wizzie wrote:

Shizuka wrote:Seems to be a LOT more talented than a certain HWNSNBM.

BLASPHAMY!

Shizuka http://youtu.be/m5RtlpXsl8k

Several things about that Connor Daly crash:
- Dmitry Seranovich is an idiot; anybody racing on without a rear wing is a complete madman, especially at Monaco. Disrespecting the stewards, not heeding to flags, and overall being a dangerous driver, I am glad he got sacked (if he did).
- Idiocy aside, I am still watching that video. It seems that he has the racing line (which he shouldn't since his car is damaged and should have been pulled over), and then made one move to the left into Daly. Looking at it though that move still put him on the racing line. I do not know if Seranovich was actively trying to cause a collision, or of Daly was being too opportunistic.

Dan B wrote:- Idiocy aside, I am still watching that video. It seems that he has the racing line (which he shouldn't since his car is damaged and should have been pulled over), and then made one move to the left into Daly. Looking at it though that move still put him on the racing line. I do not know if Seranovich was actively trying to cause a collision, or of Daly was being too opportunistic.

Doesn't matter - either way, the crash wouldn't have happened if Suranovich realised that driving without a rear wing is a very, very, very bad idea.

Whut?

Lots and lots of confusion according to WIll Buxton.

East Londoner wrote:Whut?

Lots and lots of confusion according to WIll Buxton.

Typical cock-up in stewardom...

The GP3 rear wing must provide next to no downforce then, if Suranovich was able to continue without crashing out.