2012 German Grand Prix Discussion Thread

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:05

I'm amazed - both Australians made good starts!

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:06

the Masked Lapwing wrote:I'm amazed - both Australians made good starts!

When was the last time that happened?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:07

Hamilton's got a puncture from the remnants of Massa's front wing.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:08

eurobrun wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:I'm amazed - both Australians made good starts!

When was the last time that happened?

Never in recorded history :lol:

Looking at how quickly Vettel's catching Alonso, Ferrari will most certainly be protesting this.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:08

Wizzie wrote:Hamilton's got a puncture from the remnants of Massa's front wing.

Hamilton shouts on the radio that he needs to retire but McLaren sends him back out again. Senna looks to be out though.

S951 · Post by **S951** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:09

oh lewis

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:11

Ricciardo destroys Massa's front wing and gets mugged by both Saubers.
He's basically just handed Perez a Ferrari drive :lol:

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:12

Not a great 100th GP for Lewis.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:12

Nice bit of madness at the start.

LellaLombardi · Post by **LellaLombardi** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:24

Perez does seem to be very good at having good days at the same time when Massa is having bad ones.

Not sure what Hamilton's whinging about. Think his engineer would like to tell him to man up a bit.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:26

Hulkenberg getting mugged as usual. Interesting tyre strategy being employed.

S951 · Post by **S951** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:30

go go kamui

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:46

Is it me, or does it seem to be a Force India being overtaken every lap?

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:51

Haha Hamilton. Go on son!

S951 · Post by **S951** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:51

enjoying hamilton going for it if I am honest here

Ubik · Post by **Ubik** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:52

Weird, weird situation with Hamilton unlapping himself.

mediocre · Post by **mediocre** » 22 Jul 2012, 12:56

Now the whining starts on the German side. :lol:

As far as I'm concerned, Hamilton's move was perfectly fine. You only get a penalty when you ignore the blue flags three times and it seems like Hamilton got away from Vettel quick enough.

S951 · Post by **S951** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:05

AdrianSutil wrote:Is it me, or does it seem to be a Force India being overtaken every lap?

not just you it's pretty much every lap

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:06

Both HRTs in front of Glock!

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:12

tristan1117 wrote:Both HRTs in front of Glock!

Pretty sure Glock had a very long stop a few laps back.

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:13

Sauber for 5th and 6th!!

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:15

Vettel is about 3 laps away from throwing it into the nearest wall :lol:

S951 · Post by **S951** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:32

oh jenson

Ubik · Post by **Ubik** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:33

Vettel was off the f'ckin road!

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:33

No Sebastian, you've got to be on the other side of that white line.

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:36

Vettel should get a penalty for that, passing off the track is illegal, and it needs to be stamped out!

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:37

Naughty Vettel. Well done to Alonso though. And Sauber 5th and 6th!!

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:39

Vettel needs to get a penalty. He powered out of the corner with the intention to pass Jenson with all four wheels off the track! 25 sec penalty is what he needs to get. That puts Sauber's 4th and 5th right??

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:45

Oh God, another interview like that?
Who's going to be the host at us? HWNSNBM?

Post by **mario** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:47

sswishbone wrote:Vettel shhould get a penalty for that, passing off the track is illegal, and it needs to be stamped out!

The stewards have confirmed that they are investigating the issue, so it is possible that Vettel will get a penalty for that (nice touch by Button to inform Vettel that he was being investigated by the stewards). Whilst Vettel's excuse for going off track was that he couldn't see Button and was leaving room for him (that was what it sounded like he said), the fact that he stayed on full throttle is not going to help his cause because it looks like he was intent on passing come what may.

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:50

mario wrote:
sswishbone wrote:Vettel shhould get a penalty for that, passing off the track is illegal, and it needs to be stamped out!

The stewards have confirmed that they are investigating the issue, so it is possible that Vettel will get a penalty for that (nice touch by Button to inform Vettel that he was being investigated by the stewards). Whilst Vettel's excuse for going off track was that he couldn't see Button and was leaving room for him (that was what it sounded like he said), the fact that he stayed on full throttle is not going to help his cause because it looks like he was intent on passing come what may.

Thing here, looking at the footage, vettel's car was not ahead of Button at any time before he floored it, so hope they give instant penalty, swithc back, time penalty, grid penalty, whatever, give the penalty

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:52

I for my part would like to congratulate Fernando Alonso on the championship. Might as well focus on 2013 for now.

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:53

sswishbone wrote:
mario wrote:
sswishbone wrote:Vettel shhould get a penalty for that, passing off the track is illegal, and it needs to be stamped out!

The stewards have confirmed that they are investigating the issue, so it is possible that Vettel will get a penalty for that (nice touch by Button to inform Vettel that he was being investigated by the stewards). Whilst Vettel's excuse for going off track was that he couldn't see Button and was leaving room for him (that was what it sounded like he said), the fact that he stayed on full throttle is not going to help his cause because it looks like he was intent on passing come what may.

Thing here, looking at the footage, vettel's car was not ahead of Button at any time before he floored it, so hope they give instant penalty, swithc back, time penalty, grid penalty, whatever, give the penalty

This. Vettel floored it behind Button and put his four wheel of the track with the intention of getting an advantage. If Jean-Marie Balestre would be in charge Vettel would get DSQ'ed. He needs to get a 25 sec penalty IMO. Vettel is a douche.

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:54

Klon wrote:I for my part would like to congratulate Fernando Alonso on the championship. Might as well focus on 2013 for now.

It certainly is looking like Alonso is running away with it. But my god does he deserve it. He is, by far actually, the best driver on the grid in not the best car on the grid.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:58

How is Vettel's pass not illegal? They shouldn't have bothered giving him the second place trophy.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:59

Benetton wrote:
Klon wrote:I for my part would like to congratulate Fernando Alonso on the championship. Might as well focus on 2013 for now.

It certainly is looking like Alonso is running away with it. But my god does he deserve it. He is, by far actually, the best driver on the grid in not the best car on the grid.

I have to disagree about the car. Ferrari is now one of the best cars, especially in the race.

Jonouchi · Post by **Jonouchi** » 22 Jul 2012, 13:59

If Vettel picks up a 25 second penalty, then it would give Kobayashi his best ever result in an F1 race with 4th...

mediocre · Post by **mediocre** » 22 Jul 2012, 14:07

Dj_bereta wrote:
Benetton wrote:
Klon wrote:I for my part would like to congratulate Fernando Alonso on the championship. Might as well focus on 2013 for now.

It certainly is looking like Alonso is running away with it. But my god does he deserve it. He is, by far actually, the best driver on the grid in not the best car on the grid.

I have to disagree about the car. Ferrari is now one of the best cars, especially in the race.

Brings up the question whether is Alonso is god or Massa rubbish? :geek:

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 22 Jul 2012, 14:08

Still a long way to go... but right now the only driver who looks like a real alternative is Vettel, and I for one don't want to see a third title in a row for him. Webber is probably not fast enough, while Räikkönen and Hamilton are already more than two races behind and don't seem to have the qualifying pace and the luck, respectively, to mount a challenge.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 22 Jul 2012, 14:10

New podium procedure. Fml.