The Alessandro Zanardi IndyCar Thread

The Dutch Bear · Post by **The Dutch Bear** » 25 May 2013, 08:09

Hound55 wrote:
UgncreativeUsergname wrote:
nome66 wrote:i swear if no one saw this then i've lost faith

Now nothing will ever seem exciting again

Oh. My. God.

Wow, that must be the closest finish in Indy history, maybe even in racing history. :shock:

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 25 May 2013, 11:34

The Dutch Bear wrote: maybe even in racing history.

I think Monza '71 was closer.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 25 May 2013, 17:10

Wow, what a finish for the Freedom 100 in IMS for the Indylights! 3-wide on the last two corners, and then, from fourth, Peter Dempsey stole the show by inches!! Let's hope that the 500 has this kind of racing prowess.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 25 May 2013, 17:23

Jocke1 wrote:
The Dutch Bear wrote: maybe even in racing history.

I think Monza '71 was closer.

No. Monza was won by 0.01 seconds, with the top-four seperated by 0.18 seconds. The Freedom 100 was won by 0.0026 seconds, with the top-four seperated by 0.0443 seconds. This won, hands down.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 25 May 2013, 18:41

math. math wins

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 25 May 2013, 21:27

nome66 wrote:Maths. Maths wins.

Yes. Yes, it does.

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 26 May 2013, 05:52

dr-baker wrote:
Jocke1 wrote:
The Dutch Bear wrote: maybe even in racing history.

I think Monza '71 was closer.

No. Monza was won by 0.01 seconds, with the top-four seperated by 0.18 seconds. The Freedom 100 was won by 0.0026 seconds, with the top-four seperated by 0.0443 seconds. This won, hands down.

I think I have found one that might keep this one from closest. The 2003 Carolina Dodge Dealers 400 had a margin of 0.002 seconds. Given how NASCAR timing and scoring works, that means it was between 0.00151 and 0.00250 seconds.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 26 May 2013, 10:18

Onxy Wrecked wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Jocke1 wrote:I think Monza '71 was closer.

No. Monza was won by 0.01 seconds, with the top-four seperated by 0.18 seconds. The Freedom 100 was won by 0.0026 seconds, with the top-four seperated by 0.0443 seconds. This won, hands down.

I think I have found one that might keep this one from closest. The 2003 Carolina Dodge Dealers 400 had a margin of 0.002 seconds. Given how NASCAR timing and scoring works, that means it was between 0.00151 and 0.00250 seconds.

The 2011 Aaron's 499 had a similar margin of victory. It was also 4-wide at the line, with 5th-8th also 4-wide.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 26 May 2013, 16:49

Indy 500 2013

Pippa Mann running second during the first round of pit stops behind James Jakes, and with Simona third, it's a female 2-3 (albeit with them yet to stop)!

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 26 May 2013, 16:58

And Ed Carpenter almost bins in Yellow flag.

tkcom · Post by **tkcom** » 26 May 2013, 17:12

Taku out.

That's it. I'm going to bed.

Edit: Dammit!

girry · Post by **girry** » 26 May 2013, 17:12

False alarm! Taku still in.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 26 May 2013, 17:13

TAKUS NOT OUT. he spun it, but he did not hit anything and he has it refired. he shall continue onward!

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 26 May 2013, 17:22

Not a good day for the English ladies. Pippa's out (shame she didn't quite get to lead a lap

) and Katherine Legge is currently 5 laps down, having been 6 or 7 down at one point. And Simona and Ana Beatriz are currently the last two on the lead lap - lap 71.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 26 May 2013, 17:55

Sorry for double post, but has the Indy 500 hit the record for most lead changes in one race yet?

EDIT: Record for most lead changes in one Indy 500 has well and truly been broken! And a quarter of the race still to go...

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 26 May 2013, 18:53

Go Tony!!!1 You can do it!!!

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 26 May 2013, 18:58

TOOOOOOOONYY WILL WINSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

macherone · Post by **macherone** » 26 May 2013, 19:01

Tony Kanaan, amazing.

Muñoz almost as amazing: what a restart! Maybe he could won if Dario didn't crash.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 26 May 2013, 19:30

TONYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!

Unbelievable finish to the race. He'll be finally be able to retire in peace.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 26 May 2013, 20:18

I would give ROTR for Ganassi. For a team that has won often it was a big disappointment that no one of them was a real contender at any time.

Honorary mentions to Sebastien Bourdais and AJ Allmendinger's seatbelts.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 26 May 2013, 20:24

I give my ROTR to Sebastien Bourdais. Crashing in the pits its pretty reject :lol:

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 26 May 2013, 21:08

Dj_bereta wrote:I give my ROTR to Sebastien Bourdais. Crashing in the pits its pretty reject

I give it to Sebastien Bourdais, myself. He drove like he was dazed.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 26 May 2013, 21:27

ROTR has to be Dario Franchitti. Nowhere in the last 150 laps, and ruined what could've been an awesome finish by crashing.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 26 May 2013, 21:34

I forget to say but, believe or not, Brazilian TV coverage cuts Tony celebration because they are late to transmits one match of "campeonato brasileiro" (the main championship of Brazilian soccer), that aren't too important (first round of 38...) and the same match that was transmitted in another channel, in the same time.

At least there's youtube for save me.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 26 May 2013, 21:35

wikipedia wrote:The average speed of the race - 187.433 mph (301.644 km/h) - was the fastest Indianapolis 500, breaking the record set in 1990 by Arie Luyendyk.

with wikipedia and the broadcast team stating this, it has to be true. HOORAY FOR TONY GEORGE AND INDYCZAR FINALLY BEATING CART AT SOMETHING

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 26 May 2013, 23:31

nome66 wrote:
wikipedia wrote:The average speed of the race - 187.433 mph (301.644 km/h) - was the fastest Indianapolis 500, breaking the record set in 1990 by Arie Luyendyk.

with wikipedia and the broadcast team stating this, it has to be true. HOORAY FOR TONY GEORGE AND INDYCZAR FINALLY BEATING CART AT SOMETHING

Thought it was 200 something by Luyendyk?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 26 May 2013, 23:49

nome66 wrote:
wikipedia wrote:The average speed of the race - 187.433 mph (301.644 km/h) - was the fastest Indianapolis 500, breaking the record set in 1990 by Arie Luyendyk.

with wikipedia and the broadcast team stating this, it has to be true. HOORAY FOR TONY GEORGE AND INDYCZAR FINALLY BEATING CART AT SOMETHING

Though it took a CART driver to do it.

JeremyMcClean wrote:
nome66 wrote:
wikipedia wrote:The average speed of the race - 187.433 mph (301.644 km/h) - was the fastest Indianapolis 500, breaking the record set in 1990 by Arie Luyendyk.

with wikipedia and the broadcast team stating this, it has to be true. HOORAY FOR TONY GEORGE AND INDYCZAR FINALLY BEATING CART AT SOMETHING

Thought it was 200 something by Luyendyk?

Lap record, yes. Race record, no.

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 27 May 2013, 04:41

I've been away for a few days, and I just watched the race on tape. Fantastic race! When Franchitti crashed, making me give him ROTR, I was surprisingly emotional, given that I can be like a certain Räikkönen!

Muñoz was incredible. Second for a rookie is one of the better rookie runs at Indy in a while, (except Hildebrand).

I was going for Carpenter, but he was anonymous forwards the end.

Overall, I enjoyed the Indy race and the number of lead changes was astounding! This will keep me watching the race, even if it is an oval!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 27 May 2013, 06:59

TK finally wins at Indy? I'm down with that

Certainly makes up for 2007 which, by all rights, he should have taken comfortably.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 27 May 2013, 12:21

Onxy Wrecked wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:I give my ROTR to Sebastien Bourdais. Crashing in the pits its pretty reject

I give it to Sebastien Bourdais, myself. He drove like he was dazed.

Bourdais actually ran a pretty good race until he crashed out like a dumbass. That was really, REALLY painful to watch for me, so I'd give it to him too, but...

I'd like to mention that by lap 20 or so, Katherine Legge had moved from 33rd to 24th and got no mention at all. It's a shame she threw it away by hitting the wall, but at least, unlike both of the Dragon Racing drivers, Legge's error didn't throw the entire race away.

Saavedra made a really boneheaded late pass on ... I think Pippa Mann, but it might have been Bourdais, and put himself in the wall, again proving that he has no business in IndyCar... he's like what Romain Grosjean would be if he wasn't fast.

Which means, in the battle between Katherine Legge and Dragon Racing at the Indy 500, the winner is Katherine Legge, because she made the finish. If she didn't hit the wall, I don't doubt that Legge might have wound up 10th-20th.

Bet Jay Penske regrets sacking her now, doesn't he? :twisted:

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 27 May 2013, 14:30

JeremyMcClean wrote:
nome66 wrote:
wikipedia wrote:The average speed of the race - 187.433 mph (301.644 km/h) - was the fastest Indianapolis 500, breaking the record set in 1990 by Arie Luyendyk.

with wikipedia and the broadcast team stating this, it has to be true. HOORAY FOR TONY GEORGE AND INDYCZAR FINALLY BEATING CART AT SOMETHING

Thought it was 200 something by Luyendyk?

The 200 somethings of Luyendyk that still stand are qualifying and fastest practice lap at Indianapolis. These cars are not capable of matching Luyendyk's times in 1996.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 27 May 2013, 14:46

IndyCar said that they're aiming to beat Luyendyk's lap records in the future.

deCrasheris · Post by **deCrasheris** » 27 May 2013, 16:13

Cynon wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:I give my ROTR to Sebastien Bourdais. Crashing in the pits its pretty reject

I give it to Sebastien Bourdais, myself. He drove like he was dazed.

Bourdais actually ran a pretty good race until he crashed out like a dumbass. That was really, REALLY painful to watch for me, so I'd give it to him too, but...

I'd like to mention that by lap 20 or so, Katherine Legge had moved from 33rd to 24th and got no mention at all. It's a shame she threw it away by hitting the wall, but at least, unlike both of the Dragon Racing drivers, Legge's error didn't throw the entire race away.

Saavedra made a really boneheaded late pass on ... I think Pippa Mann, but it might have been Bourdais, and put himself in the wall, again proving that he has no business in IndyCar... he's like what Romain Grosjean would be if he wasn't fast.

Which means, in the battle between Katherine Legge and Dragon Racing at the Indy 500, the winner is Katherine Legge, because she made the finish. If she didn't hit the wall, I don't doubt that Legge might have wound up 10th-20th.

Bet Jay Penske regrets sacking her now, doesn't he?

That was Pippa who Saavedra tried that move on and had the inevitable consequence of putting himself in the wall.

johnnyCarwash · Post by **johnnyCarwash** » 27 May 2013, 16:22

Awesome race, seemed noone wanted to lead for the first 170 laps... Good job TK!

I'd give ROTR to Bordais because that's not a mistake I'd expect from him and it was very lolworthy.

Saavedra's crash was more rejectful but he seem's to crash that often that so I don't consider him a ROTR when he puts it in the wall. Speaking of which,to me Saavedra seems to be currently the most rejectful driver in a top tier racing series...

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 27 May 2013, 16:59

johnnyCarwash wrote:Awesome race, seemed noone wanted to lead for the first 170 laps... Good job TK!

I'd give ROTR to Bordais because that's not a mistake I'd expect from him and it was very lolworthy.

Saavedra's crash was more rejectful but he seem's to crash that often that so I don't consider him a ROTR when he puts it in the wall. Speaking of which,to me Saavedra seems to be currently the most rejectful driver in a top tier racing series...

Now that I think of it, Bourdais's crash was rejectful. But I nominated Franchitti for crashing in a way that affected the outcome of the race, which means crashing with three to go.

F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 27 May 2013, 17:09

Dario tasting the concrete and Kanaan winning? This pleases me.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 27 May 2013, 17:12

go_Rubens wrote:
johnnyCarwash wrote:Awesome race, seemed noone wanted to lead for the first 170 laps... Good job TK!

I'd give ROTR to Bordais because that's not a mistake I'd expect from him and it was very lolworthy.

Saavedra's crash was more rejectful but he seem's to crash that often that so I don't consider him a ROTR when he puts it in the wall. Speaking of which,to me Saavedra seems to be currently the most rejectful driver in a top tier racing series...

Now that I think of it, Bourdais's crash was rejectful. But I nominated Franchitti for crashing in a way that affected the outcome of the race, which means crashing with three to go.

Not only that, but Franchitti was completely anonymous all day long. He was never a factor for the win - a thoroughly embarrassing effort for someone with 3 Indy 500 wins under his belt.

F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 27 May 2013, 17:14

Cynon wrote:IndyCar said that they're aiming to beat Luyendyk's lap records in the future.

You and I both know they are full of shite.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 27 May 2013, 17:46

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
go_Rubens wrote:
johnnyCarwash wrote:Awesome race, seemed noone wanted to lead for the first 170 laps... Good job TK!

I'd give ROTR to Bordais because that's not a mistake I'd expect from him and it was very lolworthy.

Saavedra's crash was more rejectful but he seem's to crash that often that so I don't consider him a ROTR when he puts it in the wall. Speaking of which,to me Saavedra seems to be currently the most rejectful driver in a top tier racing series...

Now that I think of it, Bourdais's crash was rejectful. But I nominated Franchitti for crashing in a way that affected the outcome of the race, which means crashing with three to go.

Not only that, but Franchitti was completely anonymous all day long. He was never a factor for the win - a thoroughly embarrassing effort for someone with 3 Indy 500 wins under his belt.

he was a factor, and then the green flag dropped

andrew2209 · Post by **andrew2209** » 27 May 2013, 19:59

ROTR:Dario Franchitti-ruined another exciting finish by bringing out the yellow flag.