Grand Prix Rejects

Good to see we still haven't lost our pace from Monaco, seems we are amongst the fastest outside the big eight teams with our last upgrade. Just need a race of attrition where we finish to get us back where we should be in the constructors.

Okay, I've had enough of spending more and more money on reliability and my cars breaking down anyway. McLaren is available for anyone who wants it.

If there is no one on the waiting list, I would be happy to take McLaren

RedEyes504 wrote:If there is no one on the waiting list, I would be happy to take McLaren

I can add you to the waiting list, but you wouldbe 10 on that waiting list.

pi314159 wrote:

RedEyes504 wrote:If there is no one on the waiting list, I would be happy to take McLaren

I can add you to the waiting list, but you wouldbe 10 on that waiting list.

wow, that's a long waiting list, but you can put me on it anyway.

Ok pi, the Ferrari engine department wishes to have the biggest reliability upgrade you can give them. Cheers.
(if this doesn't solve the reliability woes, I don't know what will )

1981 Spanish Grand Prix - Race:

1. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari) 80 Laps
2. Stefan Johansson (Brabham-Matra) +25.605
3. Mario Andretti (Ferrari) +1 Lap
4. Chico Serra (Lotus-Cosworth) +2 Laps
5. Derek Daly (Project Four-Matra) +2 Laps
6. Carlos Reutemann (Ensign-Ferrari) +3 Laps
7. Clay Regazzoni (Rebaque-Renault) +3 Laps
8. Andrea de Cesaris (Rebaque-Renault) +4 Laps
Ret. Jo Gartner (Ensign-Ferrari) +10 Laps / Gearbox
Ret. Riccardo Patrese (Osella-Ferrari) +11 Laps / Transmission
Ret. Niki Lauda (Lotus-Cosworth) +13 Laps / Suspension
Ret. Alan Jones (Ligier-Ferrari) +16 Laps / Clutch
Ret. Didier Pironi (Ligier-Ferrari) +19 Laps / Accident
Ret. Emerson Fittipaldi (Arrows-Renault) +20 Laps / Engine
Ret. Ronnie Peterson (Osella-Ferrari) +25 Laps / Transmission
Ret. Patrick Tambay (Toleman-Hart) +26 Laps / Engine
Ret. Tom Pryce (McLaren-Matra) +30 Laps / Accident
Ret. Michele Alboreto (Boro-BMW) +31 Laps / Suspension
Ret. René Arnoux (Boro-BMW) +32 Laps / Engine
Ret. Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) +50 Laps / Accident
Ret. Elio de Angelis (Williams-Renault) +54 Laps / Electrics
Ret. Nelson Piquet (Shadow-Ferrari) +56 Laps / Engine
Ret. Jacques Laffite (Arrows-Renault) +56 Laps / Engine
Ret. Kevin Cogan (Project Four-Matra) +56 Laps / Electrics
Ret. John Watson (McLaren-Matra) +65 Laps / Brakes
Ret. Arie Luyendyk (Theodore-Cosworth) +73 Laps / Gearbox
Ret. Keke Rosberg (Brabham-Matra) +77 Laps / Engine

Fastest Lap: Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari)

2 reliability upgrades for Williams please.

Also Matra will anounce an upgrade soon.

Renault shall upgrade the reliability of their engines. We are willing to spend some money on that, given that Captain_Getz comes here and declare he will do that.

pycku wrote:Renault shall upgrade the reliability of their engines. We are willing to spend some money on that, given that Captain_Getz comes here and declare he will do that.

Renault wil provide upgrades, we just need to know how much money we can spend (since it doesn't say on the main post how much money we have :/ )

CaptainGetz12 wrote:

pycku wrote:Renault shall upgrade the reliability of their engines. We are willing to spend some money on that, given that Captain_Getz comes here and declare he will do that.

Renault wil provide upgrades, we just need to know how much money we can spend (since it doesn't say on the main post how much money we have :/ )

It's just that the Renault engine department doesn't have any money, which is correctly included in the first post.

Arrows will provide 550 000 to Renault Engine department.

Time to bring in the pay drivers. We would like to see how much the following can bring to drive the #29.

Jacques Villeneuve, Sr.
Miguel Ángel Guerra
Bruno Giacomelli
Piercarlo Ghinzani
Roberto Guerrero
Huub Rothengatter
Stefan Bellof
Christian Danner
Josele Garza
Michel Jourdain, Sr

Samster wrote:Time to bring in the pay drivers. We would like to see how much the following can bring to drive the #29.
...
Piercarlo Ghinzani
...
Huub Rothengatter
...

Goddammit, bully a team of your own size.

So we are all looking forward to Alt 81 starting again this weekend.

Soooo close at Jarama lets hope we can score a much needed point.

Samster wrote:Time to bring in the pay drivers. We would like to see how much the following can bring to drive the #29.

Jacques Villeneuve, Sr.
Miguel Ángel Guerra
Bruno Giacomelli
Piercarlo Ghinzani
Roberto Guerrero
Huub Rothengatter
Stefan Bellof
Christian Danner
Josele Garza
Michel Jourdain, Sr

Jacques Villeneuve - 50 000 (25 000 per race)
Bruno Giacomelli - 100 000 - (25 000 per race)
Piercarlo Ghinzani - committed to ATS-Wolf
Roberto Guerrero - 60 000 (30 000 per race)
Huub Rothengatter - commited to ATS-Wolf
Stefan Bellof - not ready for F1, prefers to focus on junior categories
Christian Danner - 30 000 (30 000 per race)
Josele Garza - 20 000 (20 000 per race)
Michel Jourdain Sr. 60 000 (30 000 per race)

pi314159 wrote:

Samster wrote:Time to bring in the pay drivers. We would like to see how much the following can bring to drive the #29.

Jacques Villeneuve, Sr.
Miguel Ángel Guerra
Bruno Giacomelli
Piercarlo Ghinzani
Roberto Guerrero
Huub Rothengatter
Stefan Bellof
Christian Danner
Josele Garza
Michel Jourdain, Sr

Jacques Villeneuve - 50 000 (25 000 per race)
Bruno Giacomelli - 100 000 - (25 000 per race)
Piercarlo Ghinzani - committed to ATS-Wolf
Roberto Guerrero - 60 000 (30 000 per race)
Huub Rothengatter - commited to ATS-Wolf
Stefan Bellof - not ready for F1, prefers to focus on junior categories
Christian Danner - 30 000 (30 000 per race)
Josele Garza - 20 000 (20 000 per race)
Michel Jourdain Sr. 60 000 (30 000 per race)

Made our driver list for the season on the wiki.

1981 French Grand Prix - Pre-Qualifying:

1. Arie Luyendyk (Theodore TY01) 1:09.172
2. Clay Regazzoni (Rebaque HR102) +0.607
3. Andrea de Cesaris (Rebaque HR102) +1.712
4. Roberto Guerrero (Boro 005) +2.381
5. Alain Prost (Renault RE30) +3.410
6. Eliseo Salazar (Renault RE30) +3.582
7. Nigel Mansell (Alfa Romeo 181) +4.701
8. Piercarlo Ghinzani (ATS-Wolf D4) +4.891
9. Patrick Nève (ATS-Wolf D4) +5.010
10. Slim Borgudd (Alfa Romeo 181) +5.033
11. Brian Henton (Surtees TS22) +6.496
12. Siegfried Stohr (Surtees TS22) +7.140

1981 French Grand Prix - Qualifying:

1. Emerson Fittipaldi (Arrows A4) 1:06.186
2. Jacques Laffite (Arrows A4) +0.192
3. Nelson Piquet (Shadow DN13) +0.632
4. Tom Pryce (McLaren M30) +0.682
5. Alan Jones (Ligier JS17) +0.683
6. Stefan Johansson (Brabham BT50) +0.744
7. Jody Scheckter (Shadow DN13) +0.810
8. John Watson (McLaren M30) +0.838
9. Niki Lauda (Lotus 87) +0.868
10. Keke Rosberg (Brabham BT50) +1.069
11. Didier Pironi (Ligier JS17) +1.097
12. Chico Serra (Lotus 87) +1.460
13. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari 126CK) +1.725
14. Mario Andretti (Ferrari 126CK) +1.756
15. Elio de Angelis (Williams FW07C) +1.834
16. Riccardo Patrese (Osella FA1B) +2.086
17. Ronnie Peterson (Osella FA1B) +2.144
18. Carlos Reutemann (Ensign N181) +2.456
19. Patrick Tambay (Toleman TG181) +2.460
20. Thierry Boutsen (Williams FW07C) +2.494
21. Kevin Cogan (Project Four JP4-2) +2.778
22. Derek Daly (Project Four JP4-2) +3.038
23. Arie Luyendyk (Theodore TY01) +3.194
24. Jo Gartner (Ensign N181) +3.208
25. Clay Regazzoni (Rebaque HR102) +3.460
26. Andrea de Cesaris (Rebaque HR102) +3.514
27. Teo Fabi (March 811) +3.786
28. Derek Warwick (March 811) +3.869
29. Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Tyrrell 011) +3.990
30. Roberto Guerrero (Boro 005) +4.119
31. Rene Arnoux (Boro 005) +4.222
32. Jean-Pierre Jarier (Tyrrell 011) +4.248
33. Alain Prost (Renault RE30) +5.029
34. Eliseo Salazar (Renault RE30) +5.562

Nice to see the Rebaque qualifying easily, hoping for a good steady race.

1981 French Grand Prix - Race results:

1. Nelson Piquet (Shadow-Ferrari) 80 Laps
2. Emerson Fittipaldi (Arrows-Renault) +11.682
3. Jody Scheckter (Shadow-Ferrari) +52.314
4. Jacques Laffite (Arrows-Renault) +52.556
5. John Watson (McLaren-Matra) +1 Lap
6. Stefan Johansson (Brabham-Matra) +1 Lap
7. Alan Jones (Ligier-Ferrari) +2 Laps / Brakes
8. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari) +2 Laps
9. Mario Andretti (Ferrari) +2 Laps
10. Ronnie Peterson (Osella-Ferrari) +2 Laps
11. Carlos Reutemann (Ensign-Ferrari) +3 Laps
12. Kevin Cogan (Project Four-Matra) +3 Laps
13. Andrea de Cesaris (Rebaque-Renault) +3 Laps
14. Teo Fabi (March-Cosworth) +5 Laps
15. Arie Luyendyk (Theodore-Cosworth) +8 Laps / Engine
Ret. Riccardo Patrese (Osella-Ferrari) +10 Laps / Engine
Ret. Patrick Tambay (Toleman-Hart) +23 Laps / Suspension
Ret. Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) +28 Laps / Electrics
Ret. Jo Gartner (Ensign-Ferrari) +31 Laps / Engine
Ret. Didier Pironi (Ligier-Ferrari) +39 Laps / Clutch
Ret. Derek Daly (Project Four-Matra) +40 Laps / Engine
Ret. Tom Pryce (McLaren-Matra) +52 Laps / Engine
Ret. Keke Rosberg (Brabham-Matra) +59 Laps / Engine
Ret. Clay Regazzoni (Rebaque-Renault) +64 Laps / Suspension
Ret. Chico Serra (Lotus-Cosworth) +66 Laps / Accident
Ret. Niki Lauda (Lotus-Cosworth) +74 Laps / Suspension
Ret. Elio de Angelis (Williams-Renault) +77 Laps / Suspension
Ret. Derek Warwick (March-Cosworth) +79 Laps / Engine

Fastest Lap: Nelson Piquet (Shadow-Ferrari)

Lotus will buy 2 Grip upgrades.

Way off the pace and out of money, there's nowhere to go. Surtees will shut down after the Italian GP.

Ferrari will take 2 power upgrades

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Way off the pace and out of money, there's nowhere to go. Surtees will shut down after the Italian GP.

Forget about it, you're gonna merge with ATS-Wolf By Willy Kauhsen!

This wrote:

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Way off the pace and out of money, there's nowhere to go. Surtees will shut down after the Italian GP.

Forget about it, you're gonna merge with ATS-Wolf By Willy Kauhsen!

Sounds good to the one decent mechanic who'd be redundant instead

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:

This wrote:

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Way off the pace and out of money, there's nowhere to go. Surtees will shut down after the Italian GP.

Forget about it, you're gonna merge with ATS-Wolf By Willy Kauhsen!

Sounds good to the one decent mechanic who'd be redundant instead

Oh wait, you're in debt, nevermind

This wrote:

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:

This wrote:Forget about it, you're gonna merge with ATS-Wolf By Willy Kauhsen!

Sounds good to the one decent mechanic who'd be redundant instead

Oh wait, you're in debt, nevermind

You'll still hire him after Italy, right? I wouldn't take any of our designers, though....

Well sure, he can get a job at the ATS wheels factory.

Two power (or topspeed) reliabilities for us

Are the budgets on page 1 up to date? I would like to know how much money we have to spend

FantometteBR wrote:Two power (or topspeed) reliabilities for us

What exactly do you want? Topspeed or reliability?

AustralianStig wrote:Are the budgets on page 1 up to date? I would like to know how much money we have to spend

They are up to date.

Brabham will purchase a top speed upgrade.

Toleman will purchase a reliability upgrade please.

pi314159 wrote:

FantometteBR wrote:Two power (or topspeed) reliabilities for us

What exactly do you want? Topspeed or reliability?

AustralianStig wrote:Are the budgets on page 1 up to date? I would like to know how much money we have to spend

They are up to date.

Topspeed

@BRM, any chance that you could do an upgrade within both our budgets, or should we wait until 1984?

This wrote:@BRM, any chance that you could do an upgrade within both our budgets, or should we wait until 1984?

I actually forgot that I still control them. But yeah, we'll buy one upgrade. Not that it changes much...

Upgrades and mid-season prize money have been added. The amount of prize-money paid can be found on the wiki. As Alfa Romeo and Renault are tied for 18th position, prize money for 18th and 19th has been shared equally between these two teams. Prize money for 20th position has been shared between ATS-Wolf and Surtees.

Rebaque have sent their upgrade request

2x Reliability and 1x Grip for Osella please.

Ensign will do 2x Top Speed and 1x Grip